April 14, 2026

BRIAN WHEAT and TOMMY SKEOCH Join Forces with JOSEY SCOTT, CHRIS HOLMES to Form New Band T3RMINAL

BRIAN WHEAT and TOMMY SKEOCH Join Forces with JOSEY SCOTT, CHRIS HOLMES to Form New Band T3RMINAL

It’s the Pipeman in the Pit weekly segment of The Adventures of Pipeman. BRIAN WHEAT and TOMMY SKEOCH Join Forces with JOSEY SCOTT, CHRIS HOLMES to Form New Band T3RMINAL Debut Album Currently in Production, Slated for Release Later This Year A...

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It’s the Pipeman in the Pit weekly segment of The Adventures of Pipeman.

BRIAN WHEAT and TOMMY SKEOCH Join Forces with JOSEY SCOTT, CHRIS HOLMES to Form New Band T3RMINAL

Debut Album Currently in Production, Slated for Release Later This Year

A brand new modern hard rock band has officially arrived. Brian Wheat (Tesla) and Tommy Skeoch (formerly of Tesla, Bad Marriage) have joined forces with Josey Scott (Original Voice of Saliva) and Chris Holmes (formerly of W.A.S.P.) to form a new band called T3rminal.

The group is currently in the studio working on their debut full-length album, expected to be released later this year. Bringing even more firepower to the project, Sal Giancarelli (Staind) is performing drums on the upcoming studio recording.

With decades of rock legacy between them, T3rminal is shaping up to deliver pure modern hard rock attitude—loud, heavy, in some cases bluesy and built to shake stages.

Tour dates will be announced following the album’s release.

More news, music, and official updates from T3rminal will be revealed soon.

T3RMINAL are:
Josey Scott (Original Voice of Saliva) – Vocals
Brian Wheat (Tesla) – Bass
Tommy Skeoch (formerly of Tesla, Bad Marriage) – Guitar
Chris Holmes (formerly of W.A.S.P.) – Guitar
Sal Giancarelli (Staind) – Drums (Studio)

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to whenever you guys want to go all right, I

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sure you got okay Gray?

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Holmes? I just woke up.

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All right, Hey, what's up everybody? This is Josie Scott

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and Tommy Skill and Chris Holmes and Brian We and

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we are Terminal and we're working on a brand new

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record for you guys. Come check us out on the road.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man w four Cy Radio. And I'm very excited because

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we have a new band with some new music coming

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out and man, I can't wait. So let's welcome to

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the show. Josie and Brian, how are you, hey, man,

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how are you? I'm doing great And I was really

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excited when I saw the press release for this because

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I was just doing coverage at Hell's Heroes a couple

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of weeks ago, and I saw my old friend who

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haven't seen in over forty years, Chris Holmes. That back

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back in the Hollywood days, we would hang out at

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the mall together, and so it was. It was really cool.

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Like right after I got back, I saw this press

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release that you guys are all forming this new band, Terminal,

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and man, that's so exciting. I want to know the

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story of how this happened.

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Well, how it happened was it started when I ran

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into Chris. I met Chris a long time ago when

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he was in Wasp and Tessa played La I.

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to the show and I don't remember much about seeing

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him or whatever he was, you know, in his full

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Chris Holmes back then, and fast forward to him about

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three years ago.

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Two three years ago, his documentary came out on Amazon,

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mean man, and a friend of mine called me and said, hey,

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you got to watch this, and I said what is that.

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He says, it's the guy from Wasp And I thought

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it was about Blackie and he went, no, it's the

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guitar player Chris Holmes. I said, oh, I met that

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guy and I had ran into him. Frank had ran

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into him when we played Hellfest in France a couple

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of years ago.

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I didn't talk to Chris that day, but Frank did.

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Tessa plays on and Chris was playing on it, and

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the first year I was supposed to see him, he

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had got the throat cancer, so he canceled. The next year,

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I was on there selling my art but I wasn't

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playing and he was playing. So I went up to

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his wife or him whoever was. It was him in Sarah,

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but I didn't know who it was, and I said, hey,

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I'm Brian from Tessa. I'd like to say hello to Chris.

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remember meetinga and he's like cool. So then we got

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on the boat the next day and he's like, hey, dude,

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I ranted him, let's have lunch together. They got talk.

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I can't get tacos in France. I mean, you know

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how Chris is. Chris is a large personality. And I said, great.

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So we're sitting there in the buffet and he's eating

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tacos and we're talking about just life and being in

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a band and you know, this, that and the other,

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for it. All these years you went wasp.

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You know, you're a famous guy.

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I mean, you know, to me, he's like the Keith

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Richards of heavy metal, you know, and how come you

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never joined another band or you know, started another bend?

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a band with me. And I said, wow, okay, well

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I'll be in a band with you.

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Nice And he said okay.

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So he lives in France and I live in New York,

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upstate New York. And also I have a place in

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Italy which is close to his place in France. I said, listen,

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I'm being in Italy next month. Why don't you come

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up to my farm and we'll see if we can

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put some songs together, Because you know, it's one thing

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to say you can be in.

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A band together.

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Let's make a band, and that worked great. We wrote

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like three songs and we hit it off, and you know,

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I just I love the guy. I have like an

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instant kinship with the guy. So when that happened, and

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I decided that me and Chris were gonna do something together.

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a band, we gotta have a singer and another guitar

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player and a crupper. So I said, hey, you know

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who would be a great second guitarist. Another guitarist is

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my old friend Tommy Skill who was in Tesla. Me

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and him have reconnected and you know, I love him

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and I missed working with him, and what do you

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think about They said, what, Okay, I'd be cool. I

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mean if we can get along. So so then me

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and Tommy got together, right, and we had written songs

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since we'd written songs in Tesla, but that was like riding.

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A bike, you know what I mean.

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It's like yeah, yeah, wait, missed step. So me and

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him were fine. And then I said, you know, tom

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would you be into playing with me and christ And

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he said yeah, sure, So then I had to get

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those two together and then the three of us got

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together and and we were put together a bunch of music.

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And once I knew Tom and Chris got along and

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me and Tom and Chris and it's like, Okay, I know.

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The perfect singer for this band.

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And the perfect singer was Josie Right, who I'd met

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when Your Disease came out and I was listening to

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that on the radio and Tesla just gotten back together

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after being apart for five years, and I went up

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to his tour manager and said, hey, I'd like to

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meet the guys in that band. I really liked that song.

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And he took me in the dress room and Josie

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was there, and he's like, hey man, I ain't doing

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your Brian. I saw you mad Island where I was

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a kid, and I just I loved Josie from that day.

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He was just the most nicest, sweet, coolest guy. And

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I loved like his look and all the tattoos and

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the blame and all that stuff. Right, hey man, what's

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with all that stuff? He's like, Hey man, I'm from Memphis. Man.

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That was so then I called Josey and said, hey, Josie,

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I'm putting together the Tommy sk and Chris Holmes, would

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you be interested? He said, well yeah I would. I said, well,

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let me send you some music, you know, because for

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all he knew, it could have been terrible. And I

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sent him some and he said, yeah, I can, I

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can dig this. I said, well cool. So then it

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was getting you know, Josie. He came and worked with

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me for a couple of days and we put together

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some songs. On those songs right then those guys heard it,

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Tommy and Chris, and they were like, fucked, he's amazing.

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This is perfect. So then it was like, okay, Josie, come,

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let's see. That was the eve all four of us

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can get together and dig each other. And we did

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that and that's it, man, that's the story of how

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we got together.

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And that is key that you have to get along.

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And I was watching the video of your you know,

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introducing the band, and I was like, yeah, that's so Chris.

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He was like making fun of with the sunglasses and stuff,

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and it was like you could see the camaraderie there,

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and that is so key in any band for sure,

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as you guys will know, you know, so that that's

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way cool. And then when I saw him a couple

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of weeks ago. I'm like, hey, what's going on, blah

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blah blah, and he's like, yeah, I'm old. Now I

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can't do what I used to Like he used to

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back in the day, he would run full speed into

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his Marshall stack and knock it all over while he's

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in the middle of a solo. And I watched him play,

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I'm like, holy shit, he still is, Like, oh my god,

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he was all over the place. He was saying, yeah,

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he was making to me like before to go, I'm

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lucky if I could walk up to the stage at

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this age. But then he was just like as as

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this show started, he was everywhere. It was flashbacks of

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the early eighties for sure. So now combining all of

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you together in one band, oh my god, Like, that's like,

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I don't know, that's gonna be the the firestorm of

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twenty twenty six. I think, yes, yeah, I hope. So

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there you go, there you go. So when can we

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see some of this new music.

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Well, right now we're in the writing process. Josie's just

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now getting ready to go out and play some Saliva dates.

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Oh that's right, he can't.

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He can't call it Saliva, right, But he is Saliva,

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no doubt.

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Yeah, I mean click click boom your disease always superstar

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ladies and gentlemen. These are all Josie's Scott songs from

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the band he started in his garage. So yeah, but anyways,

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go see Josie Scott, the man who started Saliva, created

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it him and Wayne. Wayne's no longer with us, but

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Josie's out there and singing the songs better than he's

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ever sang him. Uh, so he's doing that. I've got

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some work with Tesla obviously. I got this Tesla Monty

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Crue tour this summer. Yeah. This is taking care of

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some personal issues in Paris. Uh but you know, we're

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getting together again in a couple of weeks, me, Tommy

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and Chelsea. So it's it's kind of an ongoing process.

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I would say realistically, by.

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The end of the year, we should have a single

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out what we're gonna do.

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I mean people are calling me. Someone called me yesterday today.

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When can Terminal come and play soon?

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I love it?

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Yeah, but right now, you know, we we we got

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things we're doing. So yes, the beauty of the thing

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is that we we all of us, have other things

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that we do but we connect in the in the terminal,

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and the terminal is you know me, Josey, Tommy and and.

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We get together and that's where the magic happens.

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So how for the listeners, how would you describe how

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Terminal music is going to be? Because you know all

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three great bands Wasp, Tesla, Saliva, but very different too

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in a lot of ways. Similar in a lot of ways,

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but very different. So how are all those influences what

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is that going to create?

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Chelsea?

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You'd be surprised how well we have gelled together.

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In the studio. I think.

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The sound, the natural Tesla sound that Brian and Tommy

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have lends itself perfectly to what Chris does with his

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you know sexy eighties go go dancer type guitar riffs,

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and then you know, I just come in and and

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you know, lay down, you know what I'd like? Like

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Brian says, this is what I do. You know what

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I mean?

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This is all I know how to do.

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Is has come in and sing my home art, you

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know what I mean? Right about whatever's going on around us.

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I've written some songs about, uh, the different characters that

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I'm in a band with in Terminal and I've written

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some things about life and about heartbreak. God knows, we've

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all been through enough heartbreak for ten albums and ten lifetimes. Yeah,

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So I mean it's just something because you know, like

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the end of the day, you can want to be

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in a band all you want to and it not

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gel or you know, not come together. And and this

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is surprisingly just really jelled and come together perfectly and

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in in this pot of stew that we're making that's terminal.

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I think people are going to be really surprised. I

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don't want to give it. I don't want to give

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it away. There's more I'd like to say on it,

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but I want I would want you to hear it first.

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I write a little bit on that. The funny thing

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is you you say you know, I'll tell you what

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it doesn't sound like. It doesn't sound like Tesla, it

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doesn't sound like Wasps and Josie like any band right

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like the voice of Tesla's Jeff Keith, the voice of

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Saliva is Josie Scott, right, the voice of Wasp was Blackie.

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It doesn't sound like Tesla or Wasp, and I don't

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and doesn't sound like Saliva outside of its Josie singing. Yeah,

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so it's gotta it's I will say, it's got a

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modern rock sound to it.

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We don't want to give too much away, like Josie says,

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but if you're expecting to hear like you know, oh

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that that's that runs me of Tesla, it it doesn't

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have that sound.

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I'm glad that because it already Tesla right.

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Exactly right, And there's already there's already Josie Scott Saliva. Right.

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But what this is is all those guys coming together

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with everything they know and everything they grew up and

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everything they were inspired by, and putting it together. And

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that's why it's called terminal, you know, because what's that?

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What happens in a in a terminal? Yeah, right, an

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airport terminal. You got people coming and going from all

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different places all over the world, and they all meet

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at the terminal to go somewhere else on an on

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a journey.

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And this is this is a journey.

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I scratched in my arm because I have the I'm

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not a junkie, uh, I have the terminal tattoo. And

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it's motherfucker.

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Oh I can't see it here is it on your

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nice right there?

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And it's itching. So I don't want you to think

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I'm like a man, right, and you got to em vacue.

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I see that. There you go.

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I got mine too. It's mind minds a little bit.

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Yeah, it's got a itch on the neck like that,

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right is that itch.

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Like on his back? And I don't think he can

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reach it. And Tommy's is on his hand right here.

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But you know, I think people are gonna be surprised

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because I don't think it's gonna be what you know

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on paper. It always appears to be one thing, right,

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you put it lisp on paper and you go, okay,

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but this is gonna it's different because, like I said,

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it's not what you would expect.

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Right, And that's why I said what I did too

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about that coming from the different bands, because it's not

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like you had three of the exact same type of

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band coming together, you know.

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No. And even in Tesla, me and Tommy we're both

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from different places. Like Tommy had the real heavy, you

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know stuff, and I would write, you know, the more

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pop song like call it what you Want or Paradise

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or you know, something like that, where he would write

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Heaven's Trail or something. So that was a combination. So

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you take that element of tom who's he's into newer

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heavy music, and I'm into I listened to you know,

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Miley Cyrus, I listened to you know, pop music. I

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listened to the beat I come from all, you know

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what I mean. So it's just we just take all

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these influences and no one's got any egos or there's

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no bullshit like that to deal with, and we all

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contribute and we try to make the best song. Because

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Josie will tell you what about songs, Josee, the song

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is the king.

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That's it.

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It's about It's about the songs. But you will hear

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this guitar army of Tommy Skeel and Chris Holmes. That's there, man,

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and they work so well together. And you you want

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to hear Jo. You're gonna hear Josie Scott as you

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want to hear Josie Scott, right.

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And you know I do what I do, man, I'm

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that guy that plays that bass thing.

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And he's a monster bass player in the studio.

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And stop it on four notes, but I played the

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fun out of there.

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Come on, all these years, you must have learned the

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fifth though.

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Four or five you know I never played the high string.

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It's a way well I got. I do have to

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say that. I'm I'm gonna pick a bone and she'll

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listen as a laugh, but I'm gonna pick a bone

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with Shauna because she should have. In the press release

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called you guys a super group, because like there's all

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these bands coming out there super groups. I'm like, yeah,

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that's not a supergroup. But then I see you guys,

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and I'm like, that's a super curse.

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Something that's for someone like.

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You to say, that's right, that's right, said.

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That people would think we're arrogant, and that was for sure.

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It wasn't like, hey, I want to make a supergroup.

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It happened for me. I mean, I guess I'm the

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catalyst because I ran into Chris and then I just thought, well,

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you know, I play in this great band, you know, Tesla.

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I mean, listen, we've.

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Done okay a little bit, and those are my brothers, right,

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But then I have my other friends that are my

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brothers and that I see and I talked to when

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I'm not in Tesla. So for me, that was the thing.

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It's like I I told Josie, like I always envisioned

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doing something with him from the day I met him,

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like we just connected, Like we've stayed in touch for

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twenty years. And you know, even though he was off

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doing something or I was off and he got on

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the Triple Beer and we always managed to always connect

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every once in a while.

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Hey man, how you doing.

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How's it going, hey man? You know, hey, I wish

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I seen you.

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Man.

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Oh, I love that song. You know that was great.

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And you know what, Tommy, we've had a bit of

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a rougher time because you know, listen talk about heartbreak.

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I mean he you know, I started in the garage

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with Frank and and Tommy even before Jeff Keith. Oh no,

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Jeff Keith came. But truthly, Tommy came before, but he

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wouldn't join us because we weren't cool enough, and then

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didn't find me. He joined our band. And but the

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four of us, you know, in Tesla were always, you know,

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the four of us, Me, Frank, Tommy and Jeff were

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always on the same page. So when you know, tom left,

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and you know, it's been pretty documented what his issues were,

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you know, out of you know, heartbreak and hurt and

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pride and eagle and shit, we both kind of attacked

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each other, and but once we ran into each other

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after seventeen years, all that shit just melted away. And

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then I you know, it's like maybe there was five

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percent of bad shit right at that point, I just

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remembered all the ninety five percent of good shit. And

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when I want to work with my brother again, you

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know what I mean, I want to you know, you

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can't come back to Tesla right now, even though that's

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a whole other topic that one day, when Tesla does

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a final lap, I said it, I'll say it again here.

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I want Tommy Skill back, I want Troy Laketta back.

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I want Dave Rude there. Dave Rud's not going anywhere.

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We have three guitar players. I'm trying to put that

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all together. When there's one lap, I don't know when

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that one lap is. When it is, i'll let you know.

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But with Terminal, it's like, these are all my buddies, you.

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Know what I mean. And it's got to be exciting too,

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like with people you like, and it's got to be

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exciting and new and fresh. When you guys have been

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doing it as long as you've been doing it, you know,

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sometimes you need that new freshness. Like when you were

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teenagers first getting into music.

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Yeah, and it's totally been like that too, you know,

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it's it's been you know. It reminds me of the

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whole reason I started in this in the first place.

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And the best, most fun moments are always when the

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band first starts. Yeah, before uh, you know, not to

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speak of this band, but I can only speak from

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my experience with with Saliva and my band before Saliva Blackbone, Uh,

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you know, before lawyers get involved in managers get involved

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in all these different anti.

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Same and money and kids and drugs, Yeah, become jaded

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and you know, like with Tesla, we had to break

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up to find each other again. Right, I'm so glad

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we did because we're closer than we've ever been.

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So that and that skiller Yeah, so I get it. Yeah,

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I love that, And you know, like it is true

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because you know, back in the eighties, I remember watching

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what the outsiders would do to all these LA bands,

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and like, it wasn't the band members that were like

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gonna fall apart, it was those outside forces making the

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band members at war with each other. Right, So I

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love hearing how much you guys got are just having

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fun connected. That's the way music should be. And like

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you can tell, you can tell, like when you go

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to a show, you can tell if the band is

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up there, you know, just dialing it in, or if

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they're truly like brothers and having fun.

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Right. Yeah, Josie reminds me a lot of Jeff Keith.

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You know, Josey's from Memphis. Jeff Keith was from Oklahoma,

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you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, I mean the

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key where you just says, like, you know, La and

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how they put all those bands together in LA and

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all the lawyers and sharks and record company people.

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Oh my god, it was this is organic, right yeah,

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And uh.

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I think we all come from different backgrounds and we

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can all connect and and so many levels. It's it's

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kind of corny, but it's true, you know.

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And Chris gets a bad rap because he's one of

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the nicest guys.

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He's one of the kindest hearted, misunderstood. He reminds me

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of Sam.

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That's such a great description too, Oh my god, oh god,

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that is that is the greatest description right there.

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I love Chris. I just talked to him an hour ago,

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so yeah, he is misunderstood, oh totally.

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And you know, like I mean, I'm going to say it,

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but that that other dude that starts with B had

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an ego bigger than anybody, and and the I thought, well,

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that seems.

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To go around, right, I mean, uh huh, you know,

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I mean, like I said, we can all relate to that.

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I think every one of us may have something like that.

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Somebody that you know is kind of a little out

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of order in our world. Yeah, yeah, you know, Josie,

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I'm sure he has one. You know, Pride goes before

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the fall, uh huh uh huh.

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So I like, you gotta do the right thing, man,

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You got to do the right thing in life, and

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that I think that's how you last in the music business.

449
00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:39.240
To be honest, is like set aside all the bullshit

450
00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:43.400
and like, to me, the true musicians at last, they're

451
00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:46.319
not out there to be rock stars. They're out there

452
00:26:46.400 --> 00:26:50.400
to be musicians. Difference, big difference.

453
00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:53.680
And if you happen to be a rock star because people,

454
00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:58.680
you know, see you as a rock star, okay, great.

455
00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:03.839
But I I mean, you know, for us, you got

456
00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:07.799
to be a good person totally, and and and and

457
00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:10.720
and the guys in Terminal are all good guys. The

458
00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:13.839
guys in Tesla are all good guys. You know, I

459
00:27:13.960 --> 00:27:20.000
can't speak for Josie's previous band or whatever. There's the

460
00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:23.720
band that's out there now calling themselves Saliva.

461
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:27.920
I hate all that crap. By the way, like so

462
00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:32.720
many bands have done it, Like even I interviewed the

463
00:27:32.880 --> 00:27:36.839
grass Roots and none of them were the original members,

464
00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:41.039
well until the interview, and I'm like, I mean, that's

465
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:41.720
really weird.

466
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:44.079
I don't want to get too far into this, but

467
00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:48.480
I will say that the fact that Josie Scott wrote

468
00:27:48.519 --> 00:27:53.279
all those songs that everyone knows and associates to Saliva.

469
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:57.160
And he can't go out and play under the name.

470
00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:03.079
Saliva because as a leal bullshit, and the guys that

471
00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:05.640
are out there calling themselves Saliva.

472
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:09.279
Weren't even on any of those records, those first.

473
00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:10.559
Six platinum albums.

474
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:12.319
That's weird to me.

475
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:18.559
It's just, uh, it's it's it's sad, yeah, sad thing,

476
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:23.200
because you know, it'd be like somebody trying to call

477
00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:25.119
themselves Tesla that wasn't in Tesla.

478
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:27.279
Mm hm. You know what I mean.

479
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:30.359
It's like, that's all you have is the legacy you

480
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:33.319
create for yourself, and you know, you pour yourself in

481
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:38.759
to the heart and soul of your songs, and you know,

482
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:42.319
Josie did that, and whatever the case may be of

483
00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:45.839
that thing. I mean, I just think it's kind of

484
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:47.880
sad that he can't go out and play under the

485
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:51.480
name Saliva when he is the voice of Saliva and

486
00:28:51.559 --> 00:28:53.359
he wrote click click boom always.

487
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:59.440
It's stupid. Yeah, I would say that. Yeah, I'm gladly

488
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:01.960
saying and I was just talking in the last interview.

489
00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:04.440
Have nothing to do with this, but the fact of how,

490
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:09.720
you know, how can an artist sing a song that

491
00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:13.799
isn't their emotions and what their thoughts and what they wrote?

492
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:15.559
Cover bands?

493
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:20.960
Yeah, exactly, you know, but you can't sing it. You

494
00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.799
can't sing it with the same heart cover bands.

495
00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:26.519
I'm all for him, But if you're gonna call yourself

496
00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:31.279
whatever band and you didn't write all those songs or

497
00:29:31.359 --> 00:29:35.559
create those records, then I I you know, like John

498
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:37.440
Lennon would say, how do you sleep?

499
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:43.799
Yeah, yeah, you know, And I just think you can't

500
00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:47.599
possibly have the same emotion singing the song. And I

501
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:50.440
think emotion when you sing a song is what makes

502
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:50.880
the song.

503
00:29:51.319 --> 00:29:52.200
It's the whole thing.

504
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:59.319
Yeah, it's your feelings. How could you describe in your

505
00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:05.880
facial expressions, movements or singing what somebody else's feeling. That's

506
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:06.799
the way I look at it.

507
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:12.160
Yeah, I know, well, you know, listen, getting back to

508
00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:19.359
you know, Chris's former band and Josie's. I can't even

509
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:20.400
say former band.

510
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:20.880
I don't.

511
00:30:20.880 --> 00:30:24.160
I don't know how to say it. But it's complicated.

512
00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:29.440
But whatever is happening right now, it's just not right

513
00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:34.160
for for for I mean, at least in Chris's band.

514
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:39.400
Blackie Lawless was the singer of Wasp. Blackie Lawless wrote

515
00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:44.160
all the lyrics in Josie's situation. There's nobody in that

516
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:53.279
band's from Saliva, you know, fifteen years later. And if

517
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:55.599
Wayne was in that band, then I could I could

518
00:30:55.640 --> 00:30:57.799
see it. I could say, Okay, I understand that.

519
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:01.960
It's kind of like when UH doesn't piss off.

520
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:03.920
Bobby or whatever, but if it does, so fucking what,

521
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.039
I don't care. I had a conversation with him and

522
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.920
I said, you know, listen, this isn't right. You know

523
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:13.759
at this point, it's like just you know, but it's

524
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:15.920
a whole other thing. I'm sure you know, blackber Mouth

525
00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:17.279
be all this tomorrow.

526
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:22.279
They just they just might because that's okay, I.

527
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:25.240
Mean, listen. I'm only saying what's true.

528
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:28.039
It can't be it can't be much.

529
00:31:28.599 --> 00:31:30.640
I'm not going to go out and say, hey, come

530
00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.680
and see me. I'm in Saliva. I wasn't in SALIVEA

531
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:36.279
I didn't pay that right.

532
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:40.799
Well, I'm glad you're standing up for your band by.

533
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:45.240
What I feel is right, whether Josie was my friend

534
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:48.279
or not. If I didn't know Josie as a fan

535
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:52.079
of Saliva the band, and and and I will say this,

536
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:53.680
you know, and I don't care if it gets me

537
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:54.839
in trouble because I don't.

538
00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:55.519
Give a fuck.

539
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:00.319
As as a fan of that band.

540
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:03.240
And and click click boom and your disease and always

541
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:06.160
and ladies and gentlemen, and you know when Josie's saying

542
00:32:06.240 --> 00:32:10.720
hero with with Chad and all that, I go.

543
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:12.920
See if I was to go see that bend now,

544
00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:15.119
it's it's would be like me. I I won't go

545
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:16.359
see Foreigner today.

546
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:24.920
That's weird too, you know. I go see lou Graham, right.

547
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:30.240
Songs, But nobody in Foreigner is from Foreigner. Nobody. I

548
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:33.880
don't think there's anybody from the guests who playing in

549
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:34.640
the Guests who.

550
00:32:35.279 --> 00:32:38.480
I interviewed them too, And that's absolutely true.

551
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:41.200
He certainly wasn't in the fucking guess who.

552
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:43.920
That's absolutely true.

553
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:48.319
And you know this is about Terminal. I don't want

554
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:51.359
to get up on a celtbox, but it is an injustice.

555
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:56.799
Well it is. And now we have a great justice

556
00:32:56.880 --> 00:33:02.279
with Terminal because yeah, yeah, because you guys are acting

557
00:33:02.359 --> 00:33:05.000
like true bandmates and that's the way it should be.

558
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:08.160
Yeah, we are. I mean, you know, and we're writing

559
00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:13.039
some some I think, some really good music and you know,

560
00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:16.880
Josie's singing his ass off and he's you know, he's

561
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:19.200
throwing his a game out there lyrically.

562
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:20.640
I mean, he blows me away.

563
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:22.920
The guy comes in here and blows over in the

564
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:28.319
corner over here right there, phones in his notepad and

565
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:31.599
an hour later he comes back with like this thing

566
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:37.400
and he's like, wow, dude, that it's so inspiring. It's

567
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:40.039
a lot of inspiration. You know, we all inspire each

568
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:41.000
other in the band.

569
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:45.039
Which is very cool, and I think that's amazing. That's

570
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:47.519
the only way it should be. And that you inspire

571
00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:51.079
each other after all these years, tells me how little

572
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:53.279
ego gets in the way of this band.

573
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:55.200
Right, there's no ego.

574
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:57.880
What it's like what are we going to be ego

575
00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:03.160
out to each guy? Exactly all we've all had platinum records,

576
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:07.240
we've all had sold out concerts, we all done the

577
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:09.000
same thing. We relate to each other. What are we

578
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:14.400
gonna Hey, man, my Dick's bigger than your cares.

579
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:18.039
Yeah, that's it. That's it.

580
00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:22.119
No egos with any any one of the five guys

581
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:23.559
that are working in this room together.

582
00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:27.119
And it's going to be a great album when it

583
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:31.800
comes out. I'm so looking forward to this. Uh, you

584
00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:35.119
guys are going to kill it. And just because just

585
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:38.880
because of the attitude to me, I think that's part

586
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:39.960
of the battle right there.

587
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:42.960
Thanks for having us, and thanks for allowing us to

588
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:47.719
speak a little truth and and uh, you know, I

589
00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:49.360
can't wait for you guys to hear it.

590
00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:50.280
I hope you like it.

591
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:53.519
If you don't, there's.

592
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:56.400
Nothing I can do about it, you know what I mean,

593
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.559
you know, but I hope if you like it.

594
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:03.000
We sure like it and we've played it to and

595
00:35:03.079 --> 00:35:06.559
that's all that counts, you know, And we're you.

596
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:09.199
Know, bottom line, we're having a good time with each other.

597
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:11.920
That's all that counts to me. If you're having a

598
00:35:11.960 --> 00:35:14.000
good time and you like the music. You're going to

599
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:16.000
attract your tribe that will like it too.

600
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:20.400
I'll good man, because Josie he's got a whole collection

601
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:23.400
of fragrances and ship and he's been turning me on

602
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:28.800
to it. Josie's doing slick dude. Man, he look at it. Man.

603
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:29.280
I love it.

604
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:31.800
Man, He's all filed up and ship. I'm in my

605
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:36.480
hockey jersey. I love Josie. I love I love this energy.

606
00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:40.360
You know, man, he wore some badass argyles socks the

607
00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:43.880
other day. My game. Josey's gonna have to help me

608
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:45.199
with my threads and ship.

609
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:50.000
Though, is Josie. Are you gonna work on Chris.

610
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:56.320
Oh Man, as much as he'll allow me. I love

611
00:35:56.480 --> 00:35:58.320
Chris though he Chris has got his own.

612
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:02.440
But that funny like that, you say that because Chris

613
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:05.400
was the one when we did we did a photo shoot.

614
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:07.519
He was the one cracking the whip on us. Hey man,

615
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:09.280
you gotta get in your stage clothes. Hey man, you

616
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:11.880
gotta do these ship Hey man, you gotta do that ship.

617
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.280
Come on, now, we're late, let's go right. And you

618
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:16.519
wouldn't expect that.

619
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:18.679
From Chris, I know, right.

620
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:21.719
He was the one cracking the whip and ship.

621
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:25.159
Oh yeah, there you go.

622
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:31.519
Well, that boy and him talk together. Seriously, they're like

623
00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:36.000
two cartoon characters, those two together. I call him the

624
00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:36.840
guitar Army.

625
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:39.679
Oh man, that's good scause.

626
00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:42.400
They both just like whoa and you just go wow, man,

627
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:47.760
that's fucking cool. Right, They're very comical, the two of them.

628
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:50.039
I don't know.

629
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:54.440
Well, Chris has always been totally entertaining for sure.

630
00:36:55.039 --> 00:37:01.519
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, all right man, that's it.

631
00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:01.880
Man.

632
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:06.199
Let's you know, just have everybody check out you guys

633
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:09.960
and wait for the new music and uh man, it's

634
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:12.159
gonna be good and people are gonna love it. And

635
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:16.400
thanks for being on the Adventures of Pape Man brother

636
00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:17.760
my pleasure.

637
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:23.440
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Patemn on

638
00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:26.840
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