Aug. 14, 2026

Brijitte West on Staying Punk, Vinyl Revival, and the Story Behind Monolith Kids

Brijitte West on Staying Punk, Vinyl Revival, and the Story Behind Monolith Kids
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In this episode of Podcast, Pipeman sits down with the iconic Brijitte West—legendary frontwoman of New York Loose—for an in-depth and candid conversation. The two discuss Brijitte West's fascinating journey through punk and rock history, from collaborating with Dee Dee Ramone, surviving the record label machine, to her ongoing DIY spirit. They dive into the magic of analog music, the cultural impact of vinyl, punk authenticity, and the importance of staying true to oneself as an artist and individual. Brijitte West shares exciting news about the remastered release of "Monolith Kids" and teases an upcoming new album, while both speakers reflect on the ever-evolving landscape of music festivals and genre boundaries.Main Topics Covered

  • Brijitte West's early career: forming bands in NYC and playing with Dee Dee Ramone (00:57)
  • The story behind her first band, Sprocket, and Viva La Wattage
  • The resurgence of vinyl and its unique magic vs. digital music (04:17)
  • Remastering and releasing "Monolith Kids" collection on LP and CD (03:23, 12:11)
  • The punk ethos: DIY culture, authenticity, and resisting conformity (13:40)
  • Problems with genre labels and the freedom of creating across boundaries (17:36, 31:03)
  • War stories: punk and metal scenes in the 1980s/'90s, crossover shows, and evolving festival cultures (29:34)
  • Passing musical legacy to the next generations (45:06, 48:14)
  • Notable figures in punk/rock history: stories about Lemmy, Wendy O. Williams, GBH, COC, Discharge, and more (07:11, 37:44)
Key Discussions & StoriesDee Dee Ramone & the Early Days
  • Meeting Dee Dee Ramone in a NYC bar, forming a band with him just after he left the Ramones
  • Dee Dee's eccentricity and the chaotic lead-up to a Pixies opening slot at the Ritz (01:00–03:16)
  • Creation and rarity of Viva La Wattage 7" single
The Analog vs Digital Music Debate
  • The superior sonic experience of analog/vinyl; reminiscence on the tangible warmth and immersion of records (04:17–06:16)
  • "There’s still another dimension that vinyl offers that CD and digital just doesn’t." — Brijitte West
  • Both hosts share personal experiences and anecdotes about classic albums, vinyl discovery, and teaching younger generations about the authentic album experience
Remastering "Monolith Kids" and New Music
  • Motivation to remaster and release old recordings: remaining relevant and sharing analog-era music in its truest form with new audiences (10:04)
  • The inclusion of the rare Avengers cover "Cheap Tragedies" as a special bonus track (11:34)
  • Announcement of an upcoming new album expected in November, "the best thing I've ever done" — Brijitte West
Punk Legacy & Personal Philosophy
  • The essence of punk as an attitude, not just a look; living authentically, breaking rules, and staying DIY (13:46–15:20)
  • Commentary on societal pressures, authenticity, and the dangers of losing yourself to trends or industries (15:30–17:36)
  • Reflections on being an "original" of the late ’80s/early ’90s and the pride in carrying that flag independently
Music Industry Real Talk
  • Share of the realities of record label interference: music shelved over trivialities like wardrobe choices, near-misses with mainstream stardom (24:31)
  • The benefits of remaining DIY and outside of major label control
Genre Blurring and Festival Culture
  • From adversarial punk/metal scenes to today’s crossover festival family (29:42–33:43)
  • The importance of accepting all music, rejecting restrictive labels, and the positive changes in festival line-ups
Passing the Torch
  • Personal stories of sharing music across generations: Pipe Man's grandson discovering Green Day and Operation Ivy through Spotify
  • "That’s what’s going to keep it alive." — Pipe Man (48:52)
Iconic Figures & Anecdotes
  • Meeting and befriending Wendy O. Williams; being in her music video and sharing a health food aisle moment (39:04)
  • Discussion of the crossover between punk and metal scenes, iconic shows, and memories from COC, GBH, the Subhumans
  • Festival stories: Wacken, Download, Bloodstock, Punk Rock Bowling, Rebellion, and more
Notable Quotes
  • "The budget on making a lot of these records... was so poor that actually having somebody going through these recordings and mastering them properly is so amazing." — Brijitte West (05:22)
  • "Punk is your character. I’m punk in pretty much everything I do." — Brijitte West (14:12)
  • "Let’s just try and be authentic. Let’s love ourselves more. Let’s trust ourselves more… For me, that’s what it means to be punk." — Brijitte West (18:04)
  • "Who made up those rules? Just you do you." — Pipeanm (19:18)
  • "I didn’t need to be a big gigantic superstar… I’m still fucking punk rock." — Brijitte West (25:28)
  • "I never ever think about music in genre. I just don’t." — Brijitte West (31:11)
  • "That’s what’s punk—when you can speak up and authentically yourself, no matter what, and speak up against things that are wrong." — Pipeanm (35:32)
  • "There’s no strength or power in hatred." — Brijitte West (36:42)
Resources and Links Mentioned
  • Brijitte West official website: brijittewest.com
  • Instagram: @brijittewest
  • "Monolith Kids" remastered LP & CD, band merchandise — available at brijittewest.com
  • LP/CD release projected for September 1
Connect with Brijitte West
Stay Connected
  • Keep an eye out for another episode with Brijitte West around the release of her next album.
  • Support independent artists and keep the punk spirit alive!


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Hi, you love then too, censure fore wow forra you you.

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This is pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man

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W four c Y Radio. And I'm excited about our

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next guest because she is a legend in my mind

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for sure, and you're gonna want to hear what's going on.

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So let's welcome to the show. Bridget West. How are

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you hi, I'm good.

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Thank you very much for that amazing introduction.

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Well you well deserve it. And I was even told

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that you have a great story. So I'd like to

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hear your story, and I'm sure our listeners would like

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to hear your story. I was even told in Clean

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One with D d Ramone.

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Oh yeah, okay, yeah, So with the D d ramone story,

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how long have you had do you have? So? D

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d Ramone? I met Dede Ramone when I lived in

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New York, well you know, obviously from New York City,

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and met him in a bar and he decided that

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he wanted to be in my band. He had left

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the remote, just left the Ramones and we it was

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me and Rick Machis from Degeneration and we were sort

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of like in this bar and he started talking to

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us and and he was like, oh, you guys are

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in a band. Do you need a bass player? We

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were like, yeah, we actually do. And he actually decided

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that he wanted to be our bass player. And because

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Dede was I don't know, you know, he was so eccentric,

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let's just be kind and yeah. So he said, yeah,

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I'm your bass player now, and that's it. So you know,

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we went with it. We just went with it. We're like, okay,

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so we did. We were going to do one gig

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with him. We had this band called that. It was

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a very the very first band that I had in

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New York City was actually called Sprocket, and we put

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up posters all over town it said Sprocket featuring Deiti Ramone.

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Probably very very few people are going to remember this,

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but some people will remember that. And anyway, so the

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night before the show, we were going to open up

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for the Pixies at the Wits I believe it was,

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and of course he chickens out and he says, oh,

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I'm not doing the show well, and so we ended

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up that day rehearsing another guy, getting getting him to

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do the gig and unbelievable. And then we formed a

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band called Viva La Wattage. I put out a seven

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inch single with Viva Lamottage, which is a very rare single.

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I think you can get it at dis on discogs.

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But yeah, that was my very first band with Rick

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from Degeneration, but DEDI remained obsessed with me and so

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there's more to the story. But yeah, that's the very

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first sort of kind of foray into my life with

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Nice. And here we are all these years later and

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you're remastering a collection and it's being projected as September

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first to be released Monoloth Monolith Kids. Yes, and it's

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on LP NCD. That's pretty exciting too. Yeah. Yeah, like

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vinyl is making a comeback. I can't even believe it.

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Like my grandkids they have me buy them vinyl. I'm

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actually in sticker shock too of what vinyl is nowadays.

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Like they want an album, man, it's like thirty eight dollars.

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I'm like, Wow, when I was a teenager, I wouldn't

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have been able to afford an album. But you know,

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we're in different times and albums are in demand. Thank god.

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I think, as you know, it is the best way

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to really consume music in my op.

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Absolutely, especially records that were recorded on analog to begin with,

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you know, recorded the two inch tape or four inch

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tape or whatever inch tape you know, and then to

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listen to it digitally, it doesn't really make sense. The

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crossover doesn't work. The warmth is gone, the dimension is gone.

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But then when you listen to it on vinyl, it

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doesn't even matter what sort of turntable you have or

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what sort of speaker you have. You know, it can be.

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It doesn't have to be the most expensive, you know thing.

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It's there's still another dimension that vinyl offers that CD

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and digital just doesn't. So I'm really excited about Monolith

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Kids because it's remastered. When I made most of these recordings,

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I was so you know, I was such a starving

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artist that I was looking at menus and sort of

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polish diners based on the prices of things rather than

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what I actually could eat, you know, wanted to eat.

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I mean, so, in other words, you know, the budget

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I'm making a lot of these records was a lot

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of this of these recordings was so so poor that

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actually having somebody going through these recordings and mastering them

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properly is so amazing. And to be able to listen

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to them and with the whole that whole leather dimension

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is going to be is going to be really exciting

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for people that were fans of mine anyway. So it's

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very very exciting.

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And you're right about the albums. Like I think a

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lot of people don't realize, especially people that grew up

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in the digital generation, that digital is just like choppy.

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It's not a wave and you're missing the mids. So,

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like you said, the depth is not there, and there's

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a whole different feeling to that depth, you know, when

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you immerse yourself in the album.

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Yes, I find it really difficult. Even like that word

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immerse yourself is a really good one. I've never felt

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I could really immerse myself in music in the digital

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age like I used to when I put a record

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on exactly a vinyl record and really just sat with it,

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you know, just listening. I remember like being a teenager

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and listening to kind of like you know, like def

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Leopard or something, you know, putting on the album and

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just being like I am in the room with the

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band right now, you know what I mean, Like I'm

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actually like in the room, like you know, And that's

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what Vinel gives you that's I really feel like that's

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what it does.

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There was some I talked to.

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Yeah, I don't know, but.

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Well there's somebody I talked to. I was just doing

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festival overseas and one of the bands I was talking to,

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they were telling a story about Lemmy and they were like,

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let he's like, you want to hear what heavy is.

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This is what heavy is. And he put on an

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album and the sound quality was like, definitely horrible. This

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way is being described to me, and like, you know,

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but he playing that album he said to the guy,

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he goes, that's heavy, you know, And he's referring to

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the fact of just listening to an album and all

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the sounds that could come from it is what's heavy.

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Yeah, I think people have lost that. I think, well,

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not that they've lost that, I think I think again,

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you know, sorry kids in the digital age, you never

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had that, Yes, exactly right, So I think that, I

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I think one of the reasons and great and kudos

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to all of you people that have discovered vinyl and

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under and are now understanding the craft of the sound,

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you know, and how production and the actual kind of

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you know that how sound can be actually really tactile.

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You can actually feel it and you can really Like

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I said before, it's sort of the it was recorded

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on analog tape, then it's put on this wax disc,

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which is then put on vinyl, which is then you

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put on a you a needle, and then it's then

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it's transmitted that way. There's something that's so beautiful about

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that process that digitally doesn't exist, and something gets very

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A very very important element of sound and production and

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the emotion of music and the heaviness of music and

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the depth of music gets lost. Not to but you know,

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I mean there are still some amazing artists that are

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working digitally now that are doing great, you know, really

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beautiful records, really amazing records. I just think rock, for instance,

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I think needs it.

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For me.

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It just sounds so much better, better digit than on vinyl.

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So yeah, and it's kind of magical because somebody else

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I was talking to just last weekend with they were like, uh, yeah,

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so when you listen to the album, there's just there's

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something different about it, there's something magical about it. And

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they're like, I don't even know how that sound comes

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off of that vinyl from a needle, you know, and

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that's the magical part for sure. So what made you

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decide to remaster this now and basically, you know, make

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an incredible album of something that dates all the way

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back to the beginning when it really was like that.

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I think I have an urge to remain relevant. I

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think that's probably number one. Also because I had the

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opportunity and I took the opportunity to do it. I

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really was curious to listen to these songs being remastered

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and you know, reimagined in a in a digital era

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and you know, in in a in a whole new way.

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And I really believed that people would be interested and

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in listening to them and and to put them all

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onto one record. And also they've never been released on

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vinyl before, so so that's really interesting as well.

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See that's the amazing part to me, because like that

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is a thing too back then then is there was

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music that was never released that was badass from a

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lot of artists played live. And it's kind of cool

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that here we are in twenty twenty six and people

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can experience it now mm hm. And so tell me

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also about what made you decide with the special bonus

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having that cut under cover of cheap tragedies by the Avengers.

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Because that was never released. I mean it was released

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on a very small label, in a very very small way,

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on an Avengers cover record, but it was such a

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it was like such a kind of a blip. So

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here you go. So it's now. It's it's on an

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actual New York Loose album, a great song, a great band.

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So yeah, I'm really excited about So it's a new

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it's new, it's a new track for people to listen to.

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But the big news is that I have a new

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album coming out.

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Oh let's talk about that, Yeah.

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I do. I haven't a home a brand new album

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coming out, so it's a bit early to talk about

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it now, but it's going to be out in sort

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of November time.

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Very cool.

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Yeah, so we'll we'll do another show all around that one.

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But yeah, so that's that's going to be. That's going

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to be really I think this is the record that

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I'm that's coming out in November is probably one of

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the best things I've ever done. I think it is

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the best thing I've ever done. So I'm really really

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excited about that. So Monolith Kids is brilliant because it's

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sort of like this is you know me, like, how

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long I've been around, you know, right, how long I've

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been doing this for This is where it's all beginning.

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This is how you can, you know, sort of understand

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my history. How long I've been doing this, And I

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don't know. I was sort of like, I feel really

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really proud that I can really really put that steak

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in the ground and say I was one of the originals.

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You know, I was one of the original, you know,

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late eighties, early nineties, I was there. I did this.

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I was making my own records, I was putting out

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seven inch singles, I was you know, postering the walls

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in New York City. And I'm still doing it well,

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and I'm doing it without a label. I'm doing it

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without any real support. I'm just doing it because I

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love it. And that's you know that, and that's it

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really so.

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And that's still so punk too, because like punk was

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always diy.

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I am punk. I've always been pretty punk and I

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still am punk.

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Well, and that a true punk is because it's like

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if I talk to people and they'll say, oh, I

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used to like punk rock or I like metal, I'm like,

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then you weren't really into it. If that were the case,

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because I think once you are, you always are. Yeah,

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it's more than just a genre.

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It is. It's sort of like your your character. I

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think punk is your character. I'm punk in pretty much

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everything I do, you know, right, Yeah, I'm like punk

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the way that I decorate, I'm punk the way that

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I do business. I'm punk punk the way that I do,

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you know, and not punk as in, you know, I

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wear a I don't. I don't wear a dog collar anymore,

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and I don't, you know, obviously I look, you know,

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I don't. I think I look probably pretty normal. But

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you know, it's sort of the It's this attitude where

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you know you don't have to follow the rules. You

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can do life the way you feel you want to

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do life. Right.

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It amazes me that nowadays that we still need that

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punk aut more than ever. You would think things would

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be different, and they're worse. Like, I don't know how

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that happened.

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You know, we need it more than ever. We need

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to be authentic to ourselves. You know. You know, I'm

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going to have a little rant. So today I went,

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I was at the supermarket.

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I love rant.

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Okay, here we go, you ready, I'm ready? Market, and

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I don't know, you probably don't know who this is.

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She's called Katie Price. Okay, just think, just think the Kardashians. Okay,

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but even worse. Okay, So we're talking about you know,

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like so fake, so like to the point where even

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the color of the skin is completely changed. Okay, So

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this woman called Katie Price. There was a woman in

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in the grocery store that I looked at her and

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I thought, are you Katie Price? Because she tried to

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look so much like Katie Price that I actually thought

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it was her. In other words, she had her skin

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was like really she had like super super super dark

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tan on. She had like the whole her whole face

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was obviously completely changed, her body obviously was completely changed.

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Everything about this woman was totally changed. And I thought,

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but do you know who you actually are anymore? Do

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you know what I mean?

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Yeah?

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Like, girl, you were born a certain way, and it's

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okay to do stuff. We all do stuff to make

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ourselves look good, but where is your authenticity? And that's

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an extreme version. But I think to them, to to

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the point, it's that I think to be to feel

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like you want to live and be someone else. I

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find really bizarre. And I think when when you live

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in sort of this way where you want to be

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authentic and punk, it's sort of like you're living the

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way you feel is aligned to yourself and that's just

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so important and really really rare. And I think for

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me as an artist, I've always just tried to be

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that and that's all I've ever done. I've made many

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different types of music even right, so I've done I

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don't know if you've ever heard my Sandusky stuff, which

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is very very Americana. I've done so many different types

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of things.

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That makes you punk in my opinion, that makes me punk, right, yeah, exactly,

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because there are no rules. And look at Social DA

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as a example. They you know, they like the findest

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thing they call cowpunk, like everything has to have a

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label on it. But I think artists should just be

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artists and be creative and that's what's punk.

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And believe me, I'm not putting anyone down that wants

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to do anything to themselves or whatever to make themselves

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feel better. But for me, it's about just what you

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said before. It's like, let's just try and be authentic,

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Let's love ourselves more, let's trust ourselves more. Let's be

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I don't, you know, to understand our own instincts more,

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do you know what I mean? And for me that

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that's kind of like all what for me, that's what

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means to be punk? It really really does. I know

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it doesn't sound like you know, again, I'm not wearing

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the dog collars. I'm not doing that. I'm finding I'm

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finding that you know, in my in my sort of

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grown up and a version of myself, I'm still pretty punk,

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you know.

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Yeah, It's an attitude that never leaves you. And I

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think people that aren't don't understand the attitude because all

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they put to it is the look and the and

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and the debauchery of some of it way back when,

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and that's all they think of. But to me, like

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I always said, like the punks were the even more

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authentic versions of the hippies, because like the hippies they

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turned into the yuppies turned into the boomers, whereas the

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punks were just always punks, and they were and they

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were against certain things that the hippies were against too,

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but they stuck to it, never did conform to what

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society's rules are. That's why. Well, it's just because who

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made up those rules like just you do you, you know,

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and always do you?

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People, Just do you. It doesn't matter, doesn't matter what's

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going on around you. Just do you and just exactly

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good to yourself and that's all you gotta.

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Do, exactly so totally because like, as long as you're

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not intentionally trying to hurt people, why does it matter

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what you are, who you are, what you do? You know?

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And And the fact is is, I think it's great

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in one way that we live in a world now

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that people can be more expressive without judgment, you know,

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And then there's still those people like I have a brother, Okay,

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he's one of the most judging people on earth. Okay,

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and so up until recently, I had blue hair for

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a while, for like years, and he would say stuff

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about that, and they would say stuff like I don't

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have any tattoos, but he would say about tattoos and like,

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uh blah blah blah blah blah, nobody has tattoos. I'm like, dude,

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look around man, like pretty much everybody does nowadays. He goes, well,

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maybe everybody you know. You know, he's like assuming because

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I'm into a certain type of music that only my

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people are and that's so eighties because that was the

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case then it's not the case now, Like I mean,

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and why shouldn't people be able to express in any

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way they want? Same thing with you know, you making

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music like you made the music as an artist you

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wanted to make. There's no rules, you know, And I

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think that's the beauty of being they because you know,

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a lot of times throughout history the record labels like

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you have to have a genre, you know, and you

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have to fit in this box. I don't think artists

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should ever be in a box.

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I think I dodged a bullet, you know, I think

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I literally I think I literally dodged a bullet in

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a lot of ways. I've been thinking about this lately

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where you know, gosh, should we talk about this? Should

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we go here?

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Sure?

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These are my thoughts lately. So when my when I

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was when we okay, you know how all this stuff

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is now sort of like coming to the surface about

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you know, like people actually you know didn't actually unlive themselves,

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but were unlived because they were going to spill the

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beans on something or do something. Okay, we know what

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we're talking about here, Yeah, totally all right, so so

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so Kurt Cobain, blah blah. Right, So Courtney Love, here's

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she comes. She's coming out, I'm coming out at the

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same time. Interesting, we're even on a record together, the

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Crow City of Angel soundtrack. She's got a gold dust

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woman on there. I have spit on there. Turns out

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her dad is in the CIA. Okay, don't kill me, please,

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whoever you want anyway, album, my album's coming out. You're

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the rat. It's getting unbelievable reviews. It is. Everybody is

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just waiting for this thing to explode. We go on

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the road with Marilyn Manson, Marilyn Manson's crowd. We win

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over the Spooky Kids, which was like a monumental feat.

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Okay in itself. I had to literally spit on them.

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Yeah, that's the funniest story ever. Right now you've heard

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that one.

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I had to do that otherwise we were getting bottled

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the whole time. Honestly, it was crazy and I mean

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that's punk rock and anyway, So we do this video

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called for a song called Broken. I get my friend

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Terry Richardson to do the video. Terry Richardson then turns

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into very shortly after the biggest fashion photographer. He was.

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He did a book called what is it called like

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Richardson's Life or whatever? Anyway, a bit of a perv.

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But anyway, major, major, major fashion photographer who later did

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a little, tiny video with a small artist you may

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have heard of called Molly's Miley Cyrus and a one

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yeah yeah, and the little it's a little video you

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may not have seen called Wrecking Ball anyway, that's what

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I'm talking about. Okay, So that's my friend Terry. We

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do this video for Broken. It's a kick ass video.

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It's fucking cool as fuck. Okay, so it comes so

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we bring it to the record company that everything is

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just about to go fucking crazy. The record company says

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to me, oh, we're not putting out the video, Bridget.

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I'm like, oh why because we don't really like the

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shirt you're wearing. Oh my lord, true story.

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I believe it too.

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I'm like, you don't like the shirt I'm wearing. What's

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one with the fucking shirt I'm wearing? I mean, I'm

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always I've always worn like animal print furry shirts, like

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and yeah, record gets shelved, we get dropped, guests, who

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gets goes gets huge in that year. Anyway, this is

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what I'm saying, I think you you know, I'm sitting

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here now in England, okay, in this tiny little village

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making you know, this record Monolith kids, and then I've

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done this other record, which is the best record I've

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ever made in my life, and feeling like that's okay,

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it's okay. You know, I didn't need to be a big,

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gigantic superstar and and and cowtow too, like you said,

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the record labels, and I've got a pretty good life.

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I'm fine. And not only that, I'm still.

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Fucking punk rock right right.

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Right, And and you know I don't I don't answer

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to anybody.

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And you shouldn't. That was one of the things. Like

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I'm originally from New York, New Jersey, and at nineteen

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eighty my dad comes up to me. He says, back

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your bags, We're moving to California in three days.

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Oh my god, my dad almost said that to me too,

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But we never actually moved.

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Well we did, And so I was there for that

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whole Hollywood sunset strip all of that, and I remember

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I remember like being backstage and walking and watching record

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labels like destroy the music in that area to make

423
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:23.079
it what they want. I'm like I'm out, you know, like,

424
00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:27.200
and I was very involved in that scene. I was like, no,

425
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:29.880
I don't want to sell my soul, you know, and

426
00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:36.839
even you take like okay, So like Blinda Carlisle and Jane,

427
00:26:36.920 --> 00:26:40.799
they they were hardcore punkers and look at what they

428
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:44.160
were turned into. That I think caused a lot of

429
00:26:45.119 --> 00:26:49.839
the conflict problems and everything else, you know. And yes,

430
00:26:50.839 --> 00:26:54.079
you know the thing I even think about it, like

431
00:26:54.240 --> 00:26:59.599
back then, it's like, well, they gave these bands all

432
00:26:59.680 --> 00:27:04.000
the mony drugs and everything else so that they were oblivious,

433
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:08.599
so that they could rob them blind. Basically, yeah, yeah,

434
00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:09.559
I never.

435
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:12.039
Even made enough money for them to rob me. So

436
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:12.640
that's ok.

437
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:17.359
Well, but see that now you stayed punk, you know,

438
00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:21.160
I can say I'm.

439
00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:24.599
Still punk exactly. Have you ever seen a boom called

440
00:27:25.440 --> 00:27:27.200
the decline of Western civilization?

441
00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:31.039
Of course, every version of it. Well, and I've seen

442
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:33.960
the real one like multiple times. And then they made

443
00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:35.119
like the Metal One and the.

444
00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:37.039
Other Middle Years, the Medal Years.

445
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:39.599
I've seen them all like a million times.

446
00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:43.039
Okay, So last Christmas I showed my kids that. So

447
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:46.480
I have I have kids, my well, they're not kids anymore.

448
00:27:46.599 --> 00:27:49.920
My son is twenty two and my daughter's twenty and

449
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:54.200
they are the coolest, cool nice, coolest kids anyway. So

450
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:57.759
we're it's Christmas time and we always watch films and

451
00:27:57.839 --> 00:28:00.000
they're like, mom, Mom shows a film she was because

452
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:02.759
like I always give them like a bit of an education.

453
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:05.319
We're watching films. So I'm like, we're going to watch

454
00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:10.240
the decline of civilization the Middle Years. Okay. They could

455
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:14.720
not believe it because they've never ever seen this before.

456
00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:17.720
Like they've never seen the hair bands. They couldn't believe

457
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:22.000
the whole Gazari dancers thing. They couldn't believe the world

458
00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:26.000
that this was. You know, it's so foreign to them,

459
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:32.119
and it's a what a wild, wild time, like what

460
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:33.720
people got away with? You know.

461
00:28:34.119 --> 00:28:37.440
Oh yeah, I'm glad we didn't have social media, you know.

462
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:40.640
I it's that my dad ways said. But like it's

463
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:43.680
the best thing ever happened, because like to live in

464
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:48.160
those times and in the peak of it. I think

465
00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:50.160
about when I go out to La now and I

466
00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:53.160
go to Rainbow, I'm like, and I'm watching idea everybody

467
00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:56.880
and I'm gaining ID in my fifties at Rainbow, I'm like,

468
00:28:57.440 --> 00:28:59.599
how the hell did I get in there? At thirteen

469
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:02.640
years old. Oh that's right. I would be walking in

470
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:05.000
there with Motley Crue to go hang out with Lemmy

471
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:08.400
and Ron Jeremy, and like that was what the time

472
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:12.200
was like back then, you know, and then it was weird.

473
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:14.799
Like also I was I was a metal head and

474
00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:17.880
a punk, but I had long hair, so I couldn't

475
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:21.200
go to punk shows until the crossover and punks can

476
00:29:21.359 --> 00:29:24.079
go metal shows. And remember, like I wanted to go

477
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:27.319
get my spikes at Posers on Melrose, but I'm a

478
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:29.720
long hair I can't walk into that store. So I

479
00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:31.640
took a couple of my to get.

480
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:34.640
The you know, the big gigantic asterisks.

481
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:37.279
Head right right. Well, what I what I did. You're

482
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:39.240
gonna love this story is I brought a couple of

483
00:29:39.319 --> 00:29:42.480
my punk friends that were friends with the owners, so

484
00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:44.880
I fear it's cool, you know, and we walk in.

485
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.440
We're there for about three seconds and my my friend's like,

486
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:53.440
we need to leave, and I'm like, why, just I'll

487
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.640
tell you outside, we need to leave now. And so

488
00:29:56.920 --> 00:30:00.200
apparently the owners pulled them over and said, let's and

489
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:03.240
because you're friends of ours, we're not going to kick

490
00:30:03.279 --> 00:30:05.279
his ass yet, but you need to remove them from

491
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:07.759
the store. Or else we're going to kick the shit

492
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:09.119
out of them. Now.

493
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:11.119
That was then.

494
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:14.839
Now it is so cool because I go on tour

495
00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:17.960
and I do you know, media coverage at metal and

496
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:20.920
punk festivals all over the US, UK and Europe. I

497
00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:26.319
just got back from the UK as America, and it's

498
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:28.599
like we can all be one big, happy family and

499
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:29.559
so cool.

500
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:32.440
I know, I love that. I love that now that

501
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:34.920
that everything is there's no sort of you know, everything

502
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:38.839
is sort of blurred. Yeah, and every and you know,

503
00:30:39.039 --> 00:30:46.079
it's interesting that everybody has so much knowledge, well not everybody,

504
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:48.559
but you know, people like me and you for instance,

505
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:53.119
we have so much knowledge of so many different genres

506
00:30:53.599 --> 00:30:56.480
right right, So we can talk metal, we can talk punk,

507
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:58.920
we can talk folk, we can you know, I know

508
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:01.440
you probably know lots and lots and lots of different

509
00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.599
types of music. And you know, I was actually doing

510
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:06.480
a podcast the other day and I said that, I

511
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:11.759
said this, and I never ever think about music in genre.

512
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:12.759
I just don't.

513
00:31:13.359 --> 00:31:21.440
And nowadays there's so many like micro genres and subgenres exactly.

514
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:26.599
It's so finite and finite that it's ridiculous. Yes, you know,

515
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:29.279
why should you be lumped in? And it's just like

516
00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:31.480
even back then when you know, the punks in the

517
00:31:31.559 --> 00:31:34.240
metal they couldn't get along. Meanwhile, we were both the

518
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:38.079
ones getting bullied by the jocks, and we're fighting each

519
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:42.240
other instead of banding together against those assholes. The people

520
00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:44.160
on you know, so much better now.

521
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:46.319
In fact, my kids are they you know, and I

522
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:49.720
think my kids, or kids in general, or young people

523
00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:51.640
in general, are kind of like, wow, it really used

524
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:54.480
to be that segregated, and it's like, yeah, it really

525
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:58.440
used to be so so yeah, So that's a good

526
00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:03.200
thing about going back to today. That's a good thing.

527
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:07.000
I think that you know, we've got a lot of

528
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:09.319
crossover in genre and we don't have that sort of

529
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:12.240
segregation anymore. You know, you can be into a whole

530
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.359
bunch of different things. And I love when you look

531
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:17.559
at a festival now that it's so many different types

532
00:32:17.599 --> 00:32:21.359
of people on the bill now and all everybody's enjoying it,

533
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:23.759
and everybody's you know, getting it and getting into it.

534
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:24.599
It's cool.

535
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.920
So there's no assholes. I'd say that all the time.

536
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:28.160
Now.

537
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.920
There's no assholes at those festivals, right.

538
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:32.519
No one's trying to kick you out because he got

539
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:34.359
long hair or whatever, or the wrong T.

540
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:37.400
Shirt on or whatever, exactly exactly what were you going to?

541
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:38.039
Just ask me?

542
00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:42.359
Yeah, the festivals were are you doing what?

543
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:48.960
So I did this year so far Hell's Heroes and

544
00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:52.880
then Milwaukee Melfest, Welcome to Rockville. Those were all in

545
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:57.359
the US, and I did download. I normally do hell Fest,

546
00:32:57.440 --> 00:32:59.640
but this year I hung out with my son because

547
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:05.160
it was fine others day instead. And then Incarceration in July,

548
00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:09.720
which is really cool. It's a Shawshank prison. Yeah, that's

549
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:12.519
a cool festival. And then I just got back from

550
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:18.119
doing Vaking in Germany and Bloodstock in the UK and

551
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:24.559
Bloodstock is still not corporate, it's d y family run.

552
00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:29.880
And then of course who was playing? Oh yeah, uh

553
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:35.480
it's like all likedal mostly metal, but yeah, but you

554
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:39.079
had like slur to Prevail was one of the headliners.

555
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:44.400
Yeah see they're they're like they're brutal, Okay.

556
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:48.160
Yeah, yeah, I don't yeah, I mean, I'm sure.

557
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:53.559
And then the same weekend another one that I would

558
00:33:53.680 --> 00:33:56.599
cover next year I'll be at because it's a different

559
00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:59.599
week in the Bloodstock is rebellion over there. I'm sure

560
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:05.759
you're from your rebellion. Exactly this year I should have

561
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:08.280
been doing. I always do Punk in the Park, but

562
00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:13.639
that got canceled. You know, it's weird that punk festivals

563
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:17.039
are getting canceled because of politics these days. But like

564
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:21.039
five Punk in the Parks got canceled. Punk Rock Bowling

565
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:25.239
I do every year got canceled this year. It's kind

566
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:29.519
of ridiculous. That's a really cool festival too, Punk Rock Bowling. Well,

567
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:34.639
but fortunately it's kind of weird, Like it's kind of

568
00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:36.599
weird to me, like this is when we need those

569
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:42.159
festivals most of all, you know, and it's I don't know,

570
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:45.840
sometimes it's kind of weird, like some of the crossover

571
00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:50.519
of how things are, Like like I remember one festival

572
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:52.239
I did a couple of years ago. The band was

573
00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:56.320
he wasn't playing there, but he came back stage. I

574
00:34:56.480 --> 00:35:01.159
was having like a forty five minute conversation conversation you

575
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:03.599
don't even have to agree or disagree, just the fact

576
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:07.239
that with Jello Biafra, and I was like sitting there like, well,

577
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:10.880
this is fucking cool. I'm having a forty five minute

578
00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:14.559
talk with Jello bi Opera. I mean, and I think

579
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.840
those are the people and that type of attitude that's

580
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:20.840
what's punk too, where you can speak up where you do,

581
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:26.599
speak up and be yourself and authentically yourself no matter what,

582
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:31.119
and speak up against things that are wrong. You know.

583
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:35.960
It's basically what it comes down to, and I think

584
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.719
we need more of it these days. I even have

585
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:40.840
a solution to the world's problems.

586
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:43.840
You want to hear it, I definitely do.

587
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:49.360
We have one big music festival that the whole world

588
00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:52.400
is required to tend, and all the political leaders are

589
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:55.880
banned from it. Security is told under no circumstances they

590
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:58.679
come in, and we just put everybody in one big

591
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:02.280
mash pit, will all work it out and hug afterwards,

592
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:06.039
and all the world's problems will be solved, because that's

593
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:07.079
what's punk.

594
00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:11.800
Yeah. Unfortunately, the people that are going to attend the

595
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:15.719
festival are not the people that make the decisions about

596
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:16.920
it exactly.

597
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:20.320
But we need to stop them from dividing all of

598
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:21.800
us because we're all just humans.

599
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:24.599
That's the bustle, that is correct, and that's what they're

600
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:28.280
trying to do. That of course, that's the agenda. It's

601
00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:33.679
just it's it's dividing, right, It's dividing and and and

602
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:39.079
you know, and making hate a really cool thing, right, Oh,

603
00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:42.679
no doubt about it some sort of strength or power,

604
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:46.400
and there's no strength or power in hatred.

605
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:50.800
And that's where I think people that aren't in the

606
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:57.320
scene misunderstand punk and misunderstand metal because we're not about hate.

607
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:03.239
We're not about hurting people. We just express ourselves, so

608
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:08.480
we're not hating and hurting people. It's therapy, you know,

609
00:37:09.840 --> 00:37:14.440
it's glad creative outlet. I'm glad you're staying relevant, and

610
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:17.360
I'm glad you're still doing this because we need people

611
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:21.400
like that to continue and pass on the torch to others,

612
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.679
you know, because like you said, there's people not here

613
00:37:24.840 --> 00:37:29.000
right now that Yeah, I don't think they underlive themselves either,

614
00:37:29.440 --> 00:37:33.320
you know. And you know, I also were talking about

615
00:37:33.360 --> 00:37:36.280
how things are today where we can merge together. I

616
00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:39.239
think people like Lemmy and Wendyo Williams for that that

617
00:37:39.400 --> 00:37:42.400
we're able to show that we could all aband together.

618
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.079
Oh my god, I love Wendy O. Williams. Do you

619
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:50.800
know I remember when she was on how you probably

620
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:53.320
remember this show what was it called? Now?

621
00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:56.920
Anyway, I know what you're talking about too.

622
00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:02.280
Show on television and they the Plasmatics were on there.

623
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:04.960
It was like Saturday something.

624
00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:06.719
Sounds or Yah, Saturday Night Live.

625
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:09.960
No, it wasn't Saturday Night Live, because I.

626
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:12.880
Do remember when she was on something it was.

627
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:18.119
And I actually had a cassette player and I taped

628
00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:22.440
it because I wanted to. I wanted to make sure

629
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:28.440
she was amazing. It was, oh my god, amazing, amazing.

630
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:31.760
And do you know I met her. I just happened

631
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:38.320
to meet her, Oh my god. Well I met her

632
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:43.440
twice once I was in I was in her video

633
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:47.719
because there was like sort of an open casting and

634
00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:52.079
I showed up and I just I just kind of

635
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:54.760
like ran up to the front and I was like, yeah,

636
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:58.280
like on I can't remember what song it was. It

637
00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:02.000
was not Plasmatics. It was one of Wendio Williams, you know, Wow.

638
00:39:02.239 --> 00:39:05.159
It was on the Wow album. And yeah, so I

639
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:06.880
was just like one in the crowd, you know. And

640
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:08.920
I actually had because I had long hair. I was like,

641
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:10.800
I put my hair up in the asterisk. So if

642
00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:14.679
you see a girl with the asterix head going like

643
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:17.400
that in one of the video. I actually never even

644
00:39:17.440 --> 00:39:18.679
seen the video. I got to look it up and

645
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:20.760
see if I'm in it. But anyway, so I kind

646
00:39:20.760 --> 00:39:23.840
of met her briefly then, but later I was. I

647
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:28.119
was working for Howard Marx, who used to manage Kiss okay,

648
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:32.199
and he was a nightmare. Oh my god, I have

649
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:40.519
stories about that home situation. Anyway, And I went to

650
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:42.880
the health food store because I've always sort of been

651
00:39:43.559 --> 00:39:47.239
kind of vegetarian, always tried to be vegetarian. Anyway, So

652
00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:51.559
I went to the health food store and fucking Wendyo

653
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:55.400
Williams is in the fucking brand and like Lentils aisle.

654
00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:58.599
Wow, I know. I was like.

655
00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:03.880
To Williams and she she was so freaking cool. She

656
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:08.880
had her tank top on, tits out, ponytail, fucking cool

657
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:13.760
glasses on. I was like, I'm in a I'm in

658
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.000
like a health food store right now with you. This

659
00:40:17.239 --> 00:40:23.599
is really crazy anyway. And she's like, yeah, like you know,

660
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:26.000
you should get the brand this one because you don't

661
00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:28.320
have to soak it so much if you get that one.

662
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:30.119
Like that's funny.

663
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:37.960
Yeah, it was really really cool. I'm like, oh thanks, yeah. Yeah,

664
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:40.960
that's when I met her, and yeah she was something else,

665
00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:45.360
something else, my god. And when she died, legend, and

666
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:47.960
actually she died only a couple of weeks after I

667
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:50.800
met her. It was like sort of it was sort

668
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:54.440
of meant to be right. What an amazing woman.

669
00:40:55.800 --> 00:41:01.840
I know, a legend, a legend mentioned like literally I

670
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:07.559
still have like my my album collection still has like

671
00:41:08.039 --> 00:41:11.639
all the Plasmax albums in it, the Wow albums, because

672
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:15.800
it was just iconic. And like I said, back then

673
00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:20.639
metal heads did like punk. It's just you know, I

674
00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:21.559
mean crossover.

675
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:24.079
Like Richie Stouts was sort of like he was in

676
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:25.599
a too tub but he was sort of he was

677
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:28.199
still playing like a metal guitar, so like everybody was

678
00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:29.119
really confused.

679
00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:33.880
Yeah, I was at the first crossover show ever. Actually

680
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:38.159
it was at the Sun Valley Sportsman's Lodge. It was

681
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:41.519
an Elks lodge, no security, first time you had long

682
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:45.679
hairs and punks in the same venue. And like on

683
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:49.800
the metal side it was Possessed, Dark Angel, Savage Grace,

684
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.280
and then on the punk side it was COC when

685
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:58.480
they were hardcore punk and the Descendants and Suicidal before

686
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:03.840
they crossed over, and it was absolute mayhem. Like it

687
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:07.519
was the most icon and even I've interviewed both Mike

688
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:12.440
Dean and Woody from COC on two separate occasions where

689
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:14.519
I just brought it up. I'm like, eh, you probably

690
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:17.159
don't remember this. Gig and it was at the Sun

691
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:20.880
Valley Sportsman's Lodge and immediately they're like, oh yeah, that

692
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:24.039
was like an Elks lodge right as the most iconic

693
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:25.679
show we ever played.

694
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:28.599
I remember that kind of stuff like that blew.

695
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:31.440
My mind because it's one thing may being a teenager

696
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:34.840
and this is like iconic to me, but it's another

697
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:38.320
thing them playing it after all the gigs they've They're like,

698
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:41.199
I've already seen them three times this year, Like they're

699
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:42.800
still playing gigs all the time?

700
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:45.599
Are still playing Yeah?

701
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:52.119
Yeah? They were three at the festivals I did. Yeah, right.

702
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.440
And And I'll tell you something else that blows my mind.

703
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:59.800
I've done interviews at festivals in the past few years

704
00:42:59.840 --> 00:43:03.000
of bands that I loved that I couldn't see when

705
00:43:03.039 --> 00:43:08.800
I was a teenager, like the Subhumans, Discharge, Exploited, GBH.

706
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:11.239
And love all of those bands.

707
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:17.239
And I actually love interviewing the punks because people don't

708
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:22.000
realize that there's like very highly educated and very well spoken,

709
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:25.000
you know, and you think they're not if you look

710
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:28.280
at them from the judginess of people, but you know,

711
00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:31.360
and it's like even they think it was stupid. Like

712
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:34.239
I was talking Discharge and you know, they were one

713
00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:38.159
that crossed over to metal for a while. They're like, yeah,

714
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:43.320
it was so stupid, no that I didn't even like,

715
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:44.840
I didn't even like that album.

716
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:47.639
Okay, it was like they were so cool and then

717
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:50.000
all of a sudden crinch, Yeah.

718
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:53.280
That album was like yeah, that was a totally Crims album,

719
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:57.079
you know. And then like I interviewed Colin at GBH.

720
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:01.280
I'm like, I said something like so what that's what

721
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:05.880
I do? Yeah, see, And I'm like, so, what's it

722
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:08.199
like to be here? He was playing a gig in

723
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:11.679
Florida and it was like a teaki hut, Like it

724
00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:14.440
was weird. He goes, well, what he goes, Well, one

725
00:44:14.559 --> 00:44:17.639
day you're playing to a million people Mesopotea. The next

726
00:44:17.760 --> 00:44:21.440
day you're playing at some little tiki bar in Stuart, Florida.

727
00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:27.440
You know. And but they're all still so real now too.

728
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:30.360
Like Dick from sub Humans, Oh my god, he was

729
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:34.119
the nicest guy and he's still so true to the

730
00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:36.440
way he was in the very beginning.

731
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:39.239
Interesting, isn't it. It's like a whole subculture of people

732
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:42.039
that you know, are just doing their thing, you.

733
00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:44.280
Know, exactly exactly cool.

734
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:47.000
For you to you know, to be able to document

735
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:50.880
them and to to kind of you know, journalize their

736
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:53.880
lives and their their sort of achievements. That's, you know,

737
00:44:53.920 --> 00:44:57.199
it's really important work, you know, because in ten years

738
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:02.559
from now, it's going to be you know, almost extinct.

739
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:07.000
Probably, let's hope not. But I can't tell you something. Okay.

740
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:11.440
I have several grandchildren, but one of my grandchildren, he

741
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:16.559
just turned fifteen about a year ago. He comes up

742
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:19.360
to me or I say to him, like, what do

743
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.559
you want for your birthday? And he goes a guitar.

744
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:27.159
Like I was totally shocked, but because before that he

745
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:30.800
was just into like video games and like all the

746
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:35.760
geeky stuff. And then he wants a guitar. I'm like, good,

747
00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.199
let's go a guitar center. And he picks up this

748
00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:40.679
guitar and he starts playing Green Day and I'm like,

749
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:43.840
look at him, like, I didn't even know you liked

750
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:46.960
that music because it's known in my family that I do.

751
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:49.239
And then so I'm playing the music in the car,

752
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.280
old school shit, and he knows it all loves it.

753
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:52.440
Like.

754
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:55.800
So then he asked me to go to one of

755
00:45:55.880 --> 00:45:59.599
the festivals with me because Green Day was playing there

756
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:03.079
and I'm like, yeah, sure, you can do media with me,

757
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:06.079
and you know, you can do it, hang out and

758
00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:09.039
do interviews, and he shows up in a Dead Candy

759
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:12.119
shirt and I'm like, how the hell do you know

760
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:16.199
the Dead Candy? So that's what's cool about because he

761
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:19.760
knows all the shit we know, Like he listens to it,

762
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:22.880
you know, even stuff that people don't know about anymore.

763
00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:28.000
It's true and okay, and now I know we've we've

764
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:34.519
totally bad mouthed the whole Spotify thing. But the reason

765
00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:38.079
why he knows that is because if he listens to

766
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:41.400
the Dead Kennedys, then someone's going to say, hey, if

767
00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:43.519
you like the Dead Kennedys, you're going to like the

768
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:45.599
sub humans and if you like this, you're going to

769
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:50.239
like that, right, So that's what's good about it.

770
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:54.039
Yeah, I say that too, like at least it's gaining notice.

771
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:57.199
And like one of his favorite bands right now is

772
00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:01.000
Operation IVY. I'm like that one's been shocked me more

773
00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:04.639
than anything because it's like, who would know Operation ivy

774
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:06.000
in two thousand places?

775
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:10.039
You know that exactly, really obscure exactly.

776
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:12.800
So I'm playing all this stuff in my car. He

777
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:16.039
knows it all and I'm so impressed, and he's got

778
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:21.199
a battle vest and like so then I put him

779
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:26.559
in his first wash pit ever and you can't, oh, well,

780
00:47:26.639 --> 00:47:28.760
he I know what to put him in, you know,

781
00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:32.360
not to They're not as bad as back when, way

782
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:35.320
back when, like I was in some brutal pits. Nowadays,

783
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:37.519
like I was just mo washing with a bunch of

784
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:43.280
dinosaurs the other day at the festivals, Like it's a

785
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:48.039
lot more fun nowadays too. And but he uh, you know,

786
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:50.239
we were going through the crowd and there's like a

787
00:47:50.360 --> 00:47:52.599
hundred thousand people at the festival. He was with me

788
00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:55.519
at and he's with and my son is there with us.

789
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:58.400
He doesn't ask his son, his father. He asked me.

790
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:01.239
He goes and he calls me because I'm Jewish, so

791
00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:06.599
I'm Zady and he got He goes, Zadi, why don't

792
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:08.519
you get us up front? Because you know how to

793
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:12.559
navigate the crowd. And that was like such a proud

794
00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:13.280
moment for me.

795
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:19.320
You know, God, well you know what that is. That

796
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:23.559
is such a beautiful story because like I said, you know,

797
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:26.159
it's sort of like you're you're keeping it alive and

798
00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:28.679
you're being able to share it with your grandson, Like,

799
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:31.320
how amazing is that I have a lot of amazing,

800
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:37.880
amazing moments with my kids that around music. Wow, we

801
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:45.000
we share so much fun times just like listening to stuff. Yeah,

802
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:52.280
music is a great thing to share with you know, kids, grandkids, friends.

803
00:48:52.400 --> 00:48:54.840
That's what's going to keep it alive. That's what's going

804
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:57.880
to keep it all alive. You know they used to

805
00:48:57.920 --> 00:48:59.960
say punk is dead. Do you say melo is dead?

806
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:02.840
And you know you go to these festivals and you

807
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:05.480
see that is far from that. It's way bigger than

808
00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:06.719
even we was back then.

809
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.719
And thank God, right or whatever it is in the universe,

810
00:49:09.760 --> 00:49:12.960
that's like working its magic around you know, keeping all

811
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:14.039
this stuff happening.

812
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:19.920
You know exactly well you are part of that. And

813
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:24.920
thank you for bringing us new music and remastering old

814
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:29.199
music to keep the nostalgia and the new going hand

815
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:32.320
in hand. Tell everybody real quick how they can reach

816
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:36.639
out to you and connect with you and check out

817
00:49:36.719 --> 00:49:37.519
all the new music.

818
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:44.199
Okay, So Bridget West on Instagram, uh and it's spelled

819
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:48.719
with a J, so it's bri ji WTE. And also

820
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:54.119
Bridgetwest dot com is the website you will start hearing

821
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:57.880
about my new record coming out. That'll be more towards November,

822
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:01.800
but definitely order and have a look at the site

823
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:06.400
about ordering the LP you know, the vinyl, the CD,

824
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:11.320
T shirts or whatever on bridgetwest dot com. And yeah,

825
00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:13.519
hopefully we'll see you out on the road at some point.

826
00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:16.639
There's no plans now, but we'll keep you posted well.

827
00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:19.760
I hope so. And thank you for still being relevant

828
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:21.960
and thanks for being on the adventures of pipe Man.

829
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:26.360
Okay, cool, Mazel tough, and thank you very much.

830
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:27.519
You got it.

831
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:31.320
Hi, I'm Bridget West from New York loose and you're

832
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:37.320
listening to the adventures of Pipemin on W four CY Radio.

833
00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:44.239
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipeline. I'm

834
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:47.440
w for CUI Radio.