Sept. 21, 2026
Butcher Babies on Growth, New Album, and Emotional Storytelling at Louder Than Life
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RSS Feed In this lively episode, Pipeman sits down with Heidi and Henry from Butcher Babies at Louder Than Life festival. They discuss surviving the extreme summer heat, reflect on the band's origins and evolution, dig deep into the upcoming album, and share personal stories of change, growth, and musical authenticity.Main Topics Covered
- Louder Than Life Festival Experience
- Navigating a "code red" delay, extreme heat, and festival memories
- Reflection on playing the very first Louder Than Life 01:22
- Band Evolution & Growth
- Musical and personal evolution over the years
- Transition from anger-fueled performances to a broader emotional range in songwriting 07:38
- The New Album (Releasing October)
- Creative process: writing with purpose and emotional depth
- Artistic focus on both heaviness and melody
- Collaborating with Sophie Simmons on "Broken and Beautiful" 12:41
- Emphasis on musicianship and guitar solos, especially in “Black Clouds Over Georgia” 14:00
- Personal Stories & Song Inspirations
- The real-life departure from California as inspiration for "Leaving California" 03:41
- Using therapy sessions as fuel for personal and open songwriting 09:26
- Channeling negative experiences into positive memories onstage 17:07
- Band and Fan Connection
- The joy of seeing fans embrace new, singable material like “Sincerity” and “Blame It on the Wind” 08:10
- Opening up Butcher Babies to wider audiences through melodic tracks
- Surviving the relentless summer festival heat—how Vegas and Florida natives cope, and why humidity is the real challenge 02:57
- Heidi’s experience with hair and stage performance attire 02:01
- The raw story behind “Leaving California” as both a literal and metaphorical theme of change 03:52
- Songwriting as autobiographical therapy, and Heidi’s newfound confidence sharing personal struggles through music 09:26
- The return (and importance) of guitar solos and showcasing technical musicianship in modern metal 14:43
- Pipeman’s social media hacking ordeal and how it prompted reflections on digital identity 11:08
- Collaborating with Sophie Simmons and bringing new perspectives into the album 12:41
- “This is something we wanted to write. This was a part of our story.” – Henry on “Leaving California” 04:33
- “There’s this weird misconception that screamers can’t sing… I was classically trained as a kid.” – Heidi 06:27
- “This album… is almost a debut album because… it’s just more focused.” – Heidi 12:07
- “I got to really, really dive into so many experiences in my life and put it on paper.” – Heidi 09:26
- “I feel like we’re bringing musicianship back.” – Pipe Man 15:15
- “It’s turning some potentially negative emotions or experiences into new positive memories.” – Heidi 16:57
- Butcher Babies Music
- “Leaving California” (single from new album)
- “Sincerity” (released in 2024)
- “Blame It on the Wind” (their fastest/most-streamed track)
- “Broken and Beautiful” (written with Sophie Simmons; on new album)
- “Black Clouds Over Georgia” (noted for extensive guitar solos)
- Louder Than Life Festival:Festival Info(not directly linked in audio, but contextually relevant)
- Pipeman’s social: Platform recovery following Facebook hack
- Sophie Simmons: Co-writer on “Broken and Beautiful”
- Official Website
- Spotify
- [Upcoming Album Release—October]
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Hey, you're listening to The Adventure of Spider-Man on W4CY Radio.
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This is the Pipe Man here on The Adventure of
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Spider-Man W4CY Radio, and I'm here with... Hi, I'm Heidi.
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I'm Henry.
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And we're from Butcher Babies.
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Yes! I'm so excited. We just had a code red,
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and my other interview ended... And then I'm like, damn,
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I'm not going to talk to Heidi and Henry. And
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then I got the text from your tour manager during
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the Code Red. I'm like, okay, cool. I'm chill now.
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I can sit in the air conditioning and not worry
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about it.
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We missed it by the skin of our teeth.
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Oh. We got to play. Thank goodness. It was our
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lucky day. We are about to hop in the ride
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over to see you when the Code Red hit. But
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we are so grateful that we walked through the actual grounds.
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I wouldn't have been able to actually see the grounds.
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So it was awesome to be able to walk through
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it and see everything, see all the amazing stuff that
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they have here at Louder Than Life. It's absolutely incredible,
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the thought that they put into it.
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It's growing. Oh, my God. Remember back in the days
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at Champions Park?
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We played the very first Louder Than Life that ever happened.
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That's wild.
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It is such an honor to be here today and
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to actually have played. Yeah. It was a great day.
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I got to tell you, though, I'm glad to see
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you so excited because it was so freaking hot for
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you guys to play, too. Oh, my God.
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That one was a hot one.
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It was a cool 92 degrees with a thousand percent humidity.
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I know, right?
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But you know what? Honestly, it was really fun. The
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crowd gave a thousand percent. We were in the shade
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for the most part.
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Really? That's cool.
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So we got lucky there. No. I like to wear
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long sleeves on stage so my hair doesn't get caught
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in my armpit.
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Yeah.
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And I feel like that was a good decision today.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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I don't even think of that, like getting caught in
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your armpit.
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Yeah.
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I had hair down to here. I'll remember it getting
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caught in my armpit, but I guess... On stage, when
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you're headbanging... When you're doing what you do, because you
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just swirl it around.
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Oh, that'd be awful. H-strings and hair.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, no, that's not fun. Right?
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You know?
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It seems like this whole summer has been like this, though. Wacken,
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it was super freaking hot. When I was in Italy,
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it was super freaking hot. Bloodstock was super freaking hot. Incarceration,
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super freaking hot. And I was just at Rock, Oklahoma.
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Super freaking hot.
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You know, the first year that they had Louder Than Life,
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it was actually cold. But you know what? We live
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in Las Vegas.
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Yeah, so it's pretty hot. I live in South Florida.
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This is a little bit, you know, the heat we're
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used to, it's this humidity. But it's okay. We're just
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super great.
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Well, see, you don't have the humidity there. I have
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it in Florida. But I've been all summer like, man,
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I can't wait to stop home for a day or
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two to cool off. And who says that going to Florida?
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You know?
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Yeah, exactly.
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The post-show shower is pointless. We just... Right? Yeah.
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Exactly. It takes two seconds. Like, I arrived here this morning.
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It wasn't five seconds, and it's like I never took
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a shower.
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There's no point in curling my hair.
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Right? So... I got to tell you, too, you got
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the new album coming out.
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Yes.
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And I love the new song, Leaving California. Thank you.
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That's so cool.
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Oh, my goodness. Thank you so much. You know, when
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we were writing that song, like, man, is this... This
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is too on the nose for us, but it's a documentary.
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Right.
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We really did. In 2020, in the middle and the
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height of everything, we did leave California. And I remember
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going over the hill out of Los Angeles. I just
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kind of started humming to myself the chorus.
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Nice.
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I'm leaving California. And the song started developing at that time.
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And when we actually started to really nose to the
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grind and write this album, I brought it up to
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Henry and I said, is this too on the nose?
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And he gratefully, you know, I'm glad.
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That he was like, no, this is... This is something
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we wanted to write.
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It should be on the nose.
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This was a part of our story and it's just like,
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you know, getting out of that state.
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Everybody wants to go there, but we were just like,
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let's leave.
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It's a place I thought that it was going to
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be our forever home.
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I left there twice. Oh, you know, so you're... And
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every time I go back.
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You broke up with the same person twice?
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I mean, I... Like, and I go back, and I,
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you know, I have so many friends there and stuff,
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and I'm like, oh, maybe I should move back, and
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then I get on a plane, and I get off
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on the 405 in LAX, and I'm like, five minutes,
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I'm like, oh my god, I'm never coming back here.
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Well, you know, the great thing is, is that this song,
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you know, California really is kind of a metaphor. You know,
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it's just about Something in your life that you thought
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was permanent, something in your life that you thought was
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going to be there forever.
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Yes.
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And then realizing that it's ran itself dry, which is fine.
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You know, priorities change, things change, life changes. And it's
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about taking those changes and just running with them. It's
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a bittersweet moment, but looking at it with all the
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fondness in the world.
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No doubt.
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And just looking at it and being like, I'm grateful
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for these moments. And that's really what leaving California is about.
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See, and I knew it was kind of like that.
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Like a combination of both.
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Yeah.
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But what I can say, as I've followed you and
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talked to you for like years... Like I remember the
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first time I interviewed you and I was like one
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of the only person that got the whole plasmatics thing
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that you remember.
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Yeah.
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And I'm like, I listen to your music now and
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it's like you've grown so much. It's like you've really evolved.
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And we talked about it on Shiprock too, about even
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with your voice. Like I still love the brutal voice,
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but then it's like people get to see that you
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really can sing.
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Thank you. There's this weird misconception that screamers can't sing. Right.
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It's so weird. I don't know why people think that. But,
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you know, I was so grateful to be able to
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showcase that because I was classically trained as a kid.
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And that is something that I was so excited about
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as a kid and in all the choirs and everything.
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And as I got older, my passion just became getting
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up there and screaming at people. And honestly... It still is. Right.
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But there is something to be said about the ebb
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and flow, yes, and being able to see people looking
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at us and singing also these lyrics back at us.
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Today was a classic example. We closed with a song
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called Sincerity.
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I love that one, too.
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That's one of our cleaner songs, and we released it
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in 2024. When I saw.
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You on Shiprock, that's when you released that one.
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Yes, and I saw more people singing along to that
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song than I think anything in the set. And it
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just goes to show that these songs are welcomed by
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our fan base. They want to sing along as much
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as they want to scream along. So I'm very grateful
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to be able to give that to them.
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I think it expands it, too, because now you bring
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the people in that maybe wouldn't be there before.
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Yeah.
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You know, I think I was still kind of an
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angry teenager when we started this band. I was 23
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years old, and I still was harboring, I think, a
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lot of those emotions and feelings. I'm 41 now. And so,
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you know, there's a lot that I want to scream about,
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but there's also a lot I want to sing about.
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Yeah.
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And I really feel grateful that, you know, my band
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is on board with all of this. And not just
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our band, but our fans, too. The song that we
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just released called Blame It On The Wind is our fastest,
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largest streaming song that we've ever released.
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Wow.
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It has great airplay at radio stations and Octane. And
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it's just kind of grew legs of its own. And so,
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you know, being able to do both is just a
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huge blessing in our eyes.
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That's key. And how do you feel about it, Henry?
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About the whole evolution of Butcher Babies.
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It's just been like, you know, this album was such
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a cool creative process for us. Because it's like this
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rebirthing of the band. And it really opened us up creatively.
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We were able to really expand and really focus on
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writing songs. really good memorable songs and that was important
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and I think we really achieved that here.
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We had one goal because Henry and I what we
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do is we we lock ourselves in our studio and
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we write and we did that for months in between
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tours and we would just we'd get home from a
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tour and lock ourselves in the studio and our one
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goal was writing with a purpose. And that purpose has
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shown itself through this album. And I'm so grateful that
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people are singing along. I'm so grateful that people are
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relating to these songs. I'm so grateful that these songs
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carry a story. This is my autobiography. I got to really,
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really dive into so many experiences in my life and
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put it on paper. And Henry was so welcoming with
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all of that. I had to sit down because I
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was going to therapy for the first time in my life.
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And so I was like expelling so many emotions. And
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I sat down and Henry's hearing a lot of this
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stuff for the first time. And even though we've been
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in a band together for nearly 20 years, ball and
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chain too. So he's hearing a lot of these things
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for the first time too. And I couldn't have asked
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for a more... supportive partner and band member.
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I love that. And see, I kind of believe too
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that when things happen that we think may be a
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bad thing, that they actually are a good thing. And
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we can't see the forest beyond the tree. And now
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you're seeing the forest.
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Yeah. And it's all about believing that that forest exists.
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So thank you for that. That's a beautiful analogy.
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Right. I got to tell you something too. I was
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going to bring something for you and I'll have to
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bring it next time. Think of it as download. This
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guy had like painting these albums with logos and I
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have one that says butcher babies.
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Oh dang.
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That's cool. Next time I see you, I'll bring it
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for you.
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Yeah. That's cool.
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It is pretty rad. Yeah. And it's unique. Nobody else
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has it. It's like a commercial thing. It's just this
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artist that downloads.
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Wow. I would love to see it. Take a picture
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and tag me.
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I will.
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Or send it to me on the old social media
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because I'd love to see it.
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I will. And I'm going to have to actually reconnect
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