Jan. 9, 2026

Certified Health & Fitness Coach Hunter Stoler + Blackened Thrash Gravewitch

Season 20, Episode 3 of The Adventures of Pipeman. Chapter 1 - Pipeman interviews Certified Health and Fitness Coach Hunter Stoler — the viral TikTok & Instagram sensation with over 1 MILLION+ followers (TikTok, Instagram). — is showing audiences...

iHeartRadio podcast player badge
Amazon Music podcast player badge
Audible podcast player badge
Spotify podcast player badge
Pandora podcast player badge
Apple Podcasts podcast player badge
Spreaker podcast player badge
Overcast podcast player badge
Castro podcast player badge
PocketCasts podcast player badge
Podchaser podcast player badge
Deezer podcast player badge
Podcast Addict podcast player badge
RSS Feed podcast player badge
iHeartRadio podcast player iconAmazon Music podcast player iconAudible podcast player iconSpotify podcast player iconPandora podcast player iconApple Podcasts podcast player iconSpreaker podcast player iconOvercast podcast player iconCastro podcast player iconPocketCasts podcast player iconPodchaser podcast player iconDeezer podcast player iconPodcast Addict podcast player iconRSS Feed podcast player icon
Season 20

Season 20, Episode 3 of The Adventures of Pipeman.

Chapter 1 - Pipeman interviews Certified Health and Fitness Coach Hunter Stoler — the viral TikTok & Instagram sensation with over 1 MILLION+ followers (TikTok, Instagram). — is showing audiences how to indulge smarter. Recently featured on FOX & FRIENDS making his healthy Pumpkin Spice Latte dupe, Hunter made national headlines after losing 50+ pounds and cutting $11,000 a year from his grocery bill — and he’s helping others do the same.

• Eat Better, Spend Less: How to shop smarter, stretch your budget, and still feast like a pro.
• Nutrition Made Easy: Simple label-reading tricks and pantry must-haves for confident, healthy cooking.
• Kid-Friendly Fixes: Snack and lunchbox ideas that actually get eaten — not tossed.

Hunter’s credibility is personal and proven — he lost weight, cleared his skin, and built a thriving community by cutting through diet noise with humor and honesty. He’s fun, fast-paced, and tailor-made for holiday TV and digital segments.

Chapter 2 - Then, after announcing DWP festival contests. Watch the commercials and go to @pipemanradio on all socials and DM me to WIN tickets to Sonic Temple or Welcome To Rockville.

Chapter 3 - Now Pipeman has an amazing interview with the band Gravewitch and discuss their music and philosophies on Blackened Thrash Metal, Thrash Metal, Death Metal, Black Metal, and metal music genres in general. Great interview. Don’t miss it!

Click Here to Subscribe to The Adventures of Pipeman for PERKS, BONUS Content & FREE GIVEWAYS!

Take some zany and serious journeys with The Pipeman aka Dean K. Piper, CST on The Adventures of Pipeman also known as Pipeman Radio syndicated globally “Where Who Knows And Anything Goes.”

Would you like to be a sponsor of the show?
Would you like to have your business, products, services, merch, programs, books, music or any other professional or artistic endeavors promoted on the show?
Would you like interviewed as a professional or music guest on The Adventures of Pipeman, Positively Pipeman and/or Pipeman in the Pit?
Would you like to host your own Radio Show, Streaming TV Show, or Podcast?

PipemanRadio Podcasts are heard on Pipeman Radio, Talk 4 Media, iHeartRadio, Pandora, Amazon Music, Audible, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and over 100 other podcast outlets where you listen to Podcasts.

The following are the different podcasts to Follow, Listen, Download, Subscribe:
•The Adventures of Pipeman
•Pipeman Radio
•Pipeman in the Pit – Music Interviews & Festivals
•Positively Pipeman – Empowerment, Inspiration, Motivation, Self-Help, Business, Spiritual & Health & Wellness


Click Here to Subscribe for PERKS, BONUS Content & FREE GIVEWAYS!

Follow @pipemanradio on all socials & Pipeman Radio Requests & Info at www.linktr.ee/pipemanradio

Stream The Adventures of Pipeman daily & live Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays at 1PM ET on W4CY Radio & Talk 4 TV.

Download, Rate & Review the Podcast at The Adventures of Pipeman, Pipeman Radio, Talk 4 Media, iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, YouTube & All Podcast Apps.

WEBVTT

1
00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:07.759
Hi, you have done to censure.

2
00:00:09.679 --> 00:00:12.000
For Wow crazy you.

3
00:00:20.280 --> 00:00:21.440
Wake up America.

4
00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:24.239
It's time for the Adventures of Pipe Man on W

5
00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:27.559
four cyd com. Wes Pond Beach is number one Internet

6
00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:28.359
radio station.

7
00:00:28.760 --> 00:00:30.679
Here's your host, the vipe Man.

8
00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:33.679
This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

9
00:00:33.679 --> 00:00:36.280
Man W four c y Radio. And I'm here with

10
00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:40.159
our next guest at Oh my god. He is an

11
00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:43.119
expert in one of my favorite areas, and that is

12
00:00:43.280 --> 00:00:46.799
health and fitness. So let's welcome to show Surified Health

13
00:00:46.840 --> 00:00:48.679
and Fitness coach Hunter Storer.

14
00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:49.159
How are you.

15
00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:50.880
I'm great, Thanks for having me.

16
00:00:51.439 --> 00:00:55.640
Oh my pleasure. So I like that you're certified. I

17
00:00:55.719 --> 00:00:58.719
just want to start there because there's so many people

18
00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:03.399
nowadays that are coaches in every area that have no certification,

19
00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:07.959
no education, no training. And it's like, if I want

20
00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:12.519
somebody to give me health and fitness, you know, coaching,

21
00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:16.159
I want them to be certified number one. Number one

22
00:01:16.200 --> 00:01:17.719
I want and number two I want to look at

23
00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:20.480
them and say they do look healthy and fit.

24
00:01:20.920 --> 00:01:21.599
Yeah, thank you.

25
00:01:21.879 --> 00:01:26.120
I mean I started my social media not certified, and

26
00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:27.799
it was just a way for me to share my

27
00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:31.319
meals with my friends. I was a private account and myself,

28
00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:34.680
and then I started realizing I was losing weight. I

29
00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:38.799
felt great, and that's what made me get that certification.

30
00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:42.159
So I'm a certified health coach and fitness coach and

31
00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:45.680
it really helped me with that credential, you know, the

32
00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:49.319
credibility because I would never want to hire a coach, nutritionist,

33
00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:52.239
or a dietician that doesn't have a degree or a certification.

34
00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:54.879
Well you know, not only that, Okay.

35
00:01:54.920 --> 00:01:57.040
So one of the things you said that I love though,

36
00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:00.439
but I a I had this client years ago. He

37
00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:03.760
was a wealth coach and I'm from the financial business,

38
00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:08.719
like I had fifteen licenses and five professional designations, and

39
00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:11.159
this guy was calling himself a wealth coach who had

40
00:02:11.199 --> 00:02:15.840
no certifications, no training, no licenses, no education, and he

41
00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:20.960
drove a beat up pickup truck and basically had no

42
00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:24.840
money whatsoever. And that didn't even bother me. What bothered

43
00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:28.759
me is he never did so you know that he

44
00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:32.360
had no gps of how to become wealthy. And I

45
00:02:32.439 --> 00:02:36.719
think you, more than other even fit health and fitness

46
00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:40.759
coaches out there, are somebody I would go to because

47
00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:44.719
you did lose over fifty pounds yourself.

48
00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:47.560
So you walked your talk exactly.

49
00:02:47.639 --> 00:02:50.759
And there are people, just to say, who could specialize

50
00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:53.599
in weight loss and be certified who might have, you know,

51
00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:56.479
a faster metabolism and have been on the leaner side

52
00:02:56.520 --> 00:02:59.199
their whole life. But if I were going to someone

53
00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:01.800
for a weight loss or fat loss specifically because weight

54
00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:04.319
and fat are similar but different, Yeah.

55
00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:06.879
I would want to go to someone who walked the.

56
00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:10.520
Talk, right. I think that's true of anything. You know.

57
00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:13.520
If I'm gonna get coached by somebody, I want to

58
00:03:13.599 --> 00:03:17.680
know that day Alay went on that journey, agreed, you know.

59
00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:21.759
So what started the journey for you? Yeah?

60
00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:24.960
So it was actually early twenty twenty when I was

61
00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:27.520
having a meal with my family. I actually think it

62
00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:31.719
was twenty nineteen Thanksgiving, right before the pandemic, and my

63
00:03:31.919 --> 00:03:35.960
plate was just full of piles of carbs. There was

64
00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:39.520
barely any protein on it, maybe a little turkey, all carbs.

65
00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:41.360
I didn't give it a second thought.

66
00:03:41.759 --> 00:03:43.879
I didn't even think I was overweight at the time,

67
00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:45.879
but I had cystic acne.

68
00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:47.240
I felt fatigued.

69
00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:49.479
I never worked out or moved my body, and I

70
00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:51.800
just thought that was normal. For some reason, it never

71
00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:54.840
was made aware to me that I needed to change

72
00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:58.800
and my mom and sister politely nudged me and they said, Hunter, like,

73
00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:01.240
look at your plate. And that's when I looked down,

74
00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:05.280
and I was just shocked because that's when it just

75
00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:08.400
clicked in my head, that flip that what did they say?

76
00:04:08.520 --> 00:04:10.840
You know, it just flipped in my head and the

77
00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:14.520
switch flipped, and I just that's when I realized I

78
00:04:14.560 --> 00:04:17.360
needed to change something, because change requires change, and if

79
00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:19.279
I kept going in the way and direction that I

80
00:04:19.319 --> 00:04:23.600
was going previously, it would not have turned out well.

81
00:04:23.800 --> 00:04:26.959
True, And like, I'm glad that you notice too, because

82
00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:29.240
I think sometimes for a lot of people is like

83
00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:33.160
they don't notice until it becomes so difficult, so it

84
00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:37.680
becomes so beyond. And I was loving your story because

85
00:04:37.680 --> 00:04:39.759
I have my own story. Not with weight though, because

86
00:04:39.759 --> 00:04:42.000
I never really had a problem with weight, which which

87
00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:45.240
is what's strange. But like ten twelve years ago, I

88
00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:49.079
was diagnosed with diabetes. I say strange because people say me,

89
00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:53.240
what do you mean you have diabetes? You're thin, you know,

90
00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:57.240
And you know what made me realize because I've always

91
00:04:57.279 --> 00:05:00.920
been into like natural health. So it wasn't like I

92
00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:03.600
went to a doctor and a doctor told me had diabetes.

93
00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:06.480
It was more like, I called.

94
00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:11.560
My pharmacist here in the Wellington area here in South Florida,

95
00:05:11.639 --> 00:05:16.519
who she's a vegan pharmacist that when people come into

96
00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:20.240
their pharmacy and they compound their own stuff, but she's like,

97
00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:24.279
well why are you gain this? And she offers natural alternatives.

98
00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:28.000
So I knew I had some kind of issue, and

99
00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:30.600
so I called her up. I'm like, listen, I'm feeling

100
00:05:30.600 --> 00:05:32.959
some symptoms. I think I need a blood test. I

101
00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:35.879
want a recommendation of where I can go that they're

102
00:05:35.879 --> 00:05:37.839
not going to put me on a bunch of meds.

103
00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:42.160
And so, oddly enough, there was a doctor right below

104
00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:47.920
the studio that she sent me to and we had

105
00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:50.240
this hour and a half talk before he tested me,

106
00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:53.680
and he was like, yep, you know your body just

107
00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:56.639
like you say, because you are. You have diabetes and

108
00:05:56.680 --> 00:06:00.839
you caught it right at the beginning. Now me about

109
00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:03.920
your story is I am a total carboholic, a total

110
00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:07.839
sugar addict, a total chocoholic. My kids would make fun

111
00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:09.759
of me to like, don't leave a pan of brownies

112
00:06:09.759 --> 00:06:11.759
at it and night will be gone by morning, and

113
00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:15.759
and I'm listen, they're not even exaggerating. I could eat

114
00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:18.560
a whole pan of brownie in someone sitting. I would

115
00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:21.360
go to these business conferences where they have the Continental

116
00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:23.519
breakfast and eat like twelve danishes.

117
00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:29.839
Oh yeah, you know. It's like, uh so you don't

118
00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:30.800
even think about it too.

119
00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:33.360
If you're somebody like me that didn't gain weight, it's like, huh,

120
00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:35.759
I'll just keep putting all this poison in my body.

121
00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:36.959
You don't think about it at all.

122
00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:39.399
If you don't see a difference in the mirror, you

123
00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:41.639
think it's not affecting you, and you don't even think

124
00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:44.319
about how it could be affecting you internally. And through

125
00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:47.000
my certification in becoming a health coach, and through just

126
00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:51.279
you know, listening to shows, podcasts, reading about different health

127
00:06:51.279 --> 00:06:54.920
amonia's topics, I've learned about subcutaneous fat, which is the

128
00:06:54.920 --> 00:06:58.199
fat that surrounds your organs. And that's also what some

129
00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:00.199
people like to call skinny fat. Where you can be

130
00:07:00.199 --> 00:07:02.519
on the smaller and leaner side. You could wear a

131
00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:06.000
small or a medium in clothing, but your body around

132
00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:08.959
your organs could be composed and surrounded by a lot

133
00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:11.240
of fat, which obviously is not good for you in

134
00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:13.839
the law now run, and you could be eating all

135
00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:16.959
the sugar every single day, every meal. And just because

136
00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:19.959
you are not gaining weight on the scale, you're not

137
00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:23.160
and your clothing is the same size, it still could

138
00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:25.680
be doing damage to your body. And you, I'm glad

139
00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:27.279
you realized that before it was too late.

140
00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:30.839
Well, absolutely, because I don't take meds.

141
00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:33.879
I went to my natural path and I put myself

142
00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:36.879
a very strict six month and well she put me

143
00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:40.279
on it, but I stuck to it myself. And I

144
00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:42.560
remember my son saying, Dad, I gotta give you props

145
00:07:42.600 --> 00:07:44.639
doing what you're doing, because I would just take the meds.

146
00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:47.360
I'm like, but you don't understand. If you take the meds,

147
00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:49.519
you still have to eat like this. You, of course,

148
00:07:49.519 --> 00:07:52.720
you can't take this. America thinks this way. If you

149
00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:56.199
take these magical meds, you can still poison your body.

150
00:07:56.279 --> 00:07:58.040
Yeah, it's the same thing with you know, the GLP

151
00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:00.800
one shots, where people could still losing weight.

152
00:08:00.920 --> 00:08:02.279
But going back to.

153
00:08:02.279 --> 00:08:04.040
What I was saying earlier about weight loss for as

154
00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:06.920
fat loss, there's a very big difference because your weight

155
00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:08.360
is composed of three main things.

156
00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:09.319
Four main things.

157
00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:12.079
We have our you know, bones, we have water weight,

158
00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:13.720
which actually is a lot of our weight.

159
00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:15.079
We have body fat.

160
00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:17.600
And we also have muscle mass, and for ninety nine

161
00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:20.199
point nine percent of people, they want to gain muscle

162
00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:22.720
and lose body fat so that they could get that

163
00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:25.839
tone look that they want. And GLP ones they make

164
00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:27.839
a lot of people not want to eat, and they

165
00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:30.560
do have a time and place for them. Of course,

166
00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:33.320
if you are obese, morbidly obese, losing any weight is

167
00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:35.559
going to help you and be healthier than the way

168
00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:38.279
that you currently are, and those medications are amazing for that.

169
00:08:38.399 --> 00:08:41.000
But for the people who might only want to lose five, ten,

170
00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:44.399
maybe even fifteen pounds, you are going to be losing

171
00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:49.360
predominantly and mostly muscle mass. And you do not want

172
00:08:49.399 --> 00:08:51.559
to lose muscle mass. You want to lose body fat

173
00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:54.679
and maintain your muscle. So as a result, you might

174
00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:57.799
get smaller and your clothes might go down a size,

175
00:08:57.840 --> 00:08:59.720
but you look at yourself and you realize you lost

176
00:08:59.720 --> 00:09:02.879
the de finition that you have and once like you

177
00:09:02.879 --> 00:09:04.519
were saying, like you're on those meds for the rest

178
00:09:04.519 --> 00:09:06.720
of your life unless you actually make a change. It's

179
00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:09.919
not a bandoned solution. And that's why I'm all about diet.

180
00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:12.279
Ninety five percent of the equation when it comes to

181
00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:15.679
overall health, exercise is only five percent. I still exercise

182
00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:18.879
almost every day, and I consider exercise to be extra

183
00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:21.639
credit because it's phenomenal for you your heart health, yeah,

184
00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:24.559
your you know, your overall body, your mental health. Of course,

185
00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:27.919
you do burn calories by exercising, but I focus on

186
00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:31.360
the strength training aspect and the cardio because you want

187
00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:33.879
to improve your heart health and you also it's great

188
00:09:33.879 --> 00:09:35.840
mentally and you want to build muscle.

189
00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:37.519
But your diet is what controls.

190
00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:38.919
Your weight totally.

191
00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:43.039
And I reversed my diabetes with just food. But here's

192
00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:45.440
where I'm interested in what you have to say, because

193
00:09:46.200 --> 00:09:49.519
you have this whole way of helping people to not

194
00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:52.679
only eat better, but spend and spend but spend less

195
00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:56.039
also and how to shop smarter. Because I'll tell you

196
00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:59.000
when I did that, six months, I was eating a

197
00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:01.799
bunch of crap, like and it was costing me more

198
00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:02.279
than it.

199
00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:04.279
Ever did to eat. Yeah.

200
00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:07.840
It's like, man, I'll go back to you know, those

201
00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:10.600
dollar cookies that I could buy.

202
00:10:11.360 --> 00:10:15.200
Yeah, So what one thing that I realized that while

203
00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:20.080
I was focusing on my weight loss journey, I realized

204
00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:23.679
that I was actually saving so much money. Talking around

205
00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:26.639
ten thousand dollars a year, and that comes from a

206
00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:29.360
lot of different things. But there's two main factors that

207
00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:31.399
led to that decrease in the amount of money I

208
00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:33.919
was spending. And one of them, which is the most

209
00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:38.320
important to me, was my alcohol consumption was cut drastically.

210
00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:41.480
If you if I went to a bar or anywhere

211
00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:44.519
in college or college, because that's where I really was

212
00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:48.519
undergoing my weight loss transformation, I'm not buying twenty to

213
00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:50.320
thirty dollars drinks that were available.

214
00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:52.600
I would maybe have a drink or two at home.

215
00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:55.440
And if you buy your own vodka, it's very different

216
00:10:55.440 --> 00:10:58.240
from getting it at the store, and I am not

217
00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:00.039
the store. It's very different from getting it at the

218
00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:02.840
bar or the club wherever. And you are saving hundreds

219
00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:04.919
of dollars a week if you are going out multiple

220
00:11:04.960 --> 00:11:07.399
times a week. And then the other thing is I

221
00:11:07.399 --> 00:11:10.559
would start every single Sunday every week being like, my

222
00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:13.799
diet starts tomorrow on Monday, and I'm going to stock

223
00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:16.840
my fridge, freezer, and pantry with healthy products. And I

224
00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:19.399
would still be uber eating and door dashing every single

225
00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:22.840
day while having a fridge that's stocked, and as a result,

226
00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:25.480
all the stuff in my fridge, freezer, and pantry would expire,

227
00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:27.840
get moldy, and they would just go bad.

228
00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:28.720
So I was.

229
00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:31.720
Basically shopping for like two or three times what I

230
00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:34.399
really needed. And now when I was on my weight

231
00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:37.320
loss journey, focusing on still eating a lot, but I'm

232
00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:38.120
eating a lot.

233
00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:38.639
Of the right stuff.

234
00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:40.799
I actually just posted on my Instagram story I had

235
00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:43.600
I actually right before this, like two minutes before I

236
00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:47.720
joined this call, I had the biggest plate ever I

237
00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:50.960
could actually show it. And I had a high protein,

238
00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:53.840
nutrient dense breakfast that is enormous.

239
00:11:53.840 --> 00:11:55.440
So take a look at this breaktha, Wow.

240
00:11:55.559 --> 00:11:59.480
I have tons of sauted mushrooms and zucchini probably costs

241
00:11:59.519 --> 00:12:02.120
three dollars at the most, and you don't even need

242
00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:02.840
to buy organic.

243
00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:05.440
That's just a step above four scrambled eggs.

244
00:12:05.799 --> 00:12:08.399
I had a high protein, high fiber bagel and a

245
00:12:08.399 --> 00:12:11.320
few blueberries and coffee. And that's eating a lot of

246
00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:14.559
food for much less money than getting it at a store.

247
00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:17.159
And the best part is you make it at home.

248
00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:19.600
You know everything that's going in it high in protein

249
00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:22.799
and nutrients and it's not high in calories, so you're

250
00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:23.960
gonna be full for a while.

251
00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:25.120
You're gonna feel great.

252
00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:27.480
And that's just the methodology that I use to lose

253
00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:28.679
fifty pounds in under a year.

254
00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:29.840
I love it.

255
00:12:29.919 --> 00:12:33.080
Now, let's talk about that plate of food again, because

256
00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:35.679
I look at that, and people may be looking at

257
00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:38.639
that and saying, wow, not only is that a lot

258
00:12:38.679 --> 00:12:41.919
of food, but at a distance, it kind of looks

259
00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:45.840
like that's food that's gonna make you gain weight.

260
00:12:45.759 --> 00:12:49.480
Or it's too much or whatever it is. So tell

261
00:12:49.559 --> 00:12:53.559
us the secret why that is a very healthy way

262
00:12:53.600 --> 00:12:56.159
to eat because it looks like it's not healthy.

263
00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:58.559
Yeah, I mean some people, Yeah, of course.

264
00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:01.480
So I find my self to be I don't want

265
00:13:01.480 --> 00:13:03.960
to say a master, but very good at finding healthy

266
00:13:04.000 --> 00:13:08.200
swaps for healthier swaps for traditional products. Just this morning,

267
00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:11.559
I posted a cheeseball swap so many people, including myself

268
00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:14.919
as a kid, would eat, you know, the pints of cheeseballs.

269
00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:16.000
You know what I'm talking about.

270
00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:16.759
Yeah, yeah, Yeah.

271
00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:19.039
I find that a brand that I love Lesser Evil

272
00:13:19.320 --> 00:13:24.399
makes a delicious, much healthier version that doesn't have bioengineered ingredients,

273
00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:28.120
doesn't have artificial flavors or food coloring agents like food

274
00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:31.279
dies red forty in it, and it's made of real cheese,

275
00:13:31.440 --> 00:13:34.720
organic cheddar, and it tastes delicious and it's so much

276
00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:38.200
better for you and your body. So my plate, I'm

277
00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:42.519
all about volume eating, eating a lot for fewer calories.

278
00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:44.960
People don't realize that you can make a smoothie the

279
00:13:45.039 --> 00:13:48.039
exact same size in any cup, and that smoothie could

280
00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:50.320
be two hundred and fifty calories or it could be

281
00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:53.679
one thousand plus calories, and the difference could be. You

282
00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:56.960
think your one tablespoon of peanut butter is similar to

283
00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:59.720
five tablespoons of peanut butter, and you could take any

284
00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.919
normal miss spoonful from a peanut butter or almond butter jar,

285
00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:06.840
and you don't even understand that peanut butter is a

286
00:14:06.879 --> 00:14:09.480
serving is very small. It's one to two tablespoons, and

287
00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:12.039
that's one hundred or two hundred calories. And what I

288
00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:14.440
used to do, I would put five or six tablespoons

289
00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:16.600
in my smoothies and wonder, oh, it's a smoothie. It

290
00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:19.440
has to be healthy, or I'd drown my salad, which

291
00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:22.480
was a huge salad and a huge bowl with four hundred,

292
00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:25.360
five hundred, sometimes even six hundred calories of dressing.

293
00:14:25.799 --> 00:14:28.120
Throw on cheese, throw on nuts.

294
00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:30.399
Whatever, it is, and I would say that this is healthy,

295
00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:33.480
but there's a very big difference between eating healthy and

296
00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:35.879
eating healthy for weight loss. So I like eating more

297
00:14:35.919 --> 00:14:40.360
food that I'm aware is more nutrient dense, lowering calories

298
00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:43.039
than having like a little bit of peanut butter and

299
00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:46.440
calling it wraps, because that plate is four hundred and

300
00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:48.080
sixty calories and forty.

301
00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:48.879
Three grams of protein.

302
00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:52.279
And wow, some protein bars are three hundred calories and

303
00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:54.320
you're done with it in twenty.

304
00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:55.960
Seconds, you know, and it's not even good.

305
00:14:56.720 --> 00:14:59.639
Yeah, and you're I feel so good after eating this

306
00:14:59.720 --> 00:15:03.360
thirty forty minutes ago, and I'm definitely gonna make that tomorrow.

307
00:15:03.360 --> 00:15:04.879
Do you actually need to go to the grocery store

308
00:15:04.919 --> 00:15:06.639
after this and get the ingredients again?

309
00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:09.200
I love it too, because that's the one thing I

310
00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:12.480
found out when I started changing my eating habits is

311
00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:16.960
it would blow my mind reading the labels like that.

312
00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:19.240
I read the labels on everything in the store. Now

313
00:15:19.639 --> 00:15:22.440
it's like, why are you putting sugar in my broccoli?

314
00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:26.720
Like stuff like that. I can't And like V eight juice,

315
00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:28.840
which is always promoted to be healthy, is probably one

316
00:15:28.879 --> 00:15:30.639
of the most unhealthy things.

317
00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:31.279
Yeah, or the.

318
00:15:31.279 --> 00:15:33.840
Naked juice that has fifty five grams of sugar, and

319
00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:36.120
people are like, it's all fruit and vegetables. I'm like,

320
00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:39.799
do you understand how pressed and how many fruits and

321
00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:42.200
vegetables have to be in here for this fifty five

322
00:15:42.240 --> 00:15:42.919
grams of sugar?

323
00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:44.799
You know what I would recommend? Why don't you eat

324
00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:45.320
a cup of.

325
00:15:45.200 --> 00:15:49.720
Watermelon or grapes or blueberries, like eat real food like fruit.

326
00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:52.840
Juice has a place, I guess, but it's not something

327
00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:54.399
you should be consuming every day.

328
00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:57.399
Well, and you'll agree. I think a lot of people

329
00:15:57.399 --> 00:16:00.559
don't realize that once you juice of fruit, it takes

330
00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:03.279
out the fiber that makes it good.

331
00:16:03.320 --> 00:16:05.720
It makes it not be pure sugar one hundred percent.

332
00:16:05.799 --> 00:16:08.559
It keeps you full for longer duration. Fiber is amazing

333
00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:08.879
for you.

334
00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:11.639
And my plate also have thirty six grams of fiber

335
00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:14.320
because that bagel that I use is a very unique bagel,

336
00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:19.399
and it's seventy calories, ten or eleven grams of protein

337
00:16:19.480 --> 00:16:22.600
and thirty one grams of fiber, which is extremely rare.

338
00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:26.080
So when Americans eighty percent of Americans don't reach their

339
00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:29.240
fiber goals, I'm like, hello, Like these bagels, they're two

340
00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:31.480
dollars a bagel, and don't tell me that that's too

341
00:16:31.559 --> 00:16:33.720
expensive when you're going out for dinner multiple times a

342
00:16:33.720 --> 00:16:37.120
week and it is getting you to your fiber goals

343
00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:40.159
for the day by eating a healthier bagel that tastes delicious.

344
00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:43.759
Oh, I definitely need to find out what that bagel

345
00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:44.720
is because.

346
00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:48.559
Royo, they have enough whole foods online delicious.

347
00:16:48.759 --> 00:16:52.000
Oh, because I need to get that. Listen, I'm a Jew.

348
00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:56.039
I miss having my bagels, and I I rarely have

349
00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:59.799
bagels because for diabetics, it's like the worst thing you

350
00:16:59.799 --> 00:17:03.000
cant So when you talk about that much fiber, I'm like,

351
00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:03.559
I'm in.

352
00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:04.759
I can eat that bag.

353
00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:08.559
Doesn't hurt my stomach, and it's it's just amazing. Like

354
00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:10.440
I put eggs on it, you can put anything on it.

355
00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:12.359
You can make a peanut butter and jelly on this vehicle,

356
00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:15.119
and as long as you're aware of how much peanut

357
00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:17.720
butter are you're using, like that could be an extremely

358
00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:19.319
healthy snack or part of a meal.

359
00:17:20.119 --> 00:17:21.039
Yeah, exactly.

360
00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:25.079
I love it because you know, you even take things

361
00:17:25.119 --> 00:17:26.480
like meta musole or whatever.

362
00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:28.039
I don't want to do that. I don't want to

363
00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:31.960
take fake fiber or fake anything like they.

364
00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:35.720
Add so many additives to that meta musil that it's gross. Like,

365
00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:39.480
just eat your real food and fiber sources. They might

366
00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:41.200
be hard to find that first, but once you have

367
00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:43.960
a list, which I share all the time on social media,

368
00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:46.519
it becomes so much more, so much easier, and you

369
00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:47.039
feel better.

370
00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:48.079
Yeah.

371
00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:52.079
Absolutely, Well, I also know you have some simple label

372
00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:55.000
reading tricks, because I want to hear about that, because

373
00:17:55.480 --> 00:17:57.759
I still it's like going to a grocery store. I

374
00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:01.119
need a whole day because I'm really reading all the labels.

375
00:18:01.200 --> 00:18:04.680
So people are waking up to the ingredient labels in

376
00:18:04.759 --> 00:18:06.359
grocery stores and online and.

377
00:18:06.759 --> 00:18:07.839
A very simple trick.

378
00:18:07.880 --> 00:18:11.599
I mean, the fewer ingredients most of the time is better,

379
00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:15.440
but you still could have some you know, hydrogenated vegetable

380
00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:18.880
oil blends, and the whole ingredient list might only be

381
00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:21.640
three or four ingredients. But what I will say is

382
00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:23.640
you do want to look for things that do not

383
00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:27.759
contain artificial flavors or artificial sweeteners that will wreck your

384
00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:32.559
gut health like sucralose, aspartame, asiosulfin, potassium, things like that

385
00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:36.000
sweet and low. You want to also eat a predominantly

386
00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:41.960
whole food diet. I mean fruits, vegetables, and proteins. I'm

387
00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:46.000
talking things like Greek yogurt, cottage cheese, eggs, chicken, steak,

388
00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:48.759
deli turkey. A lot of people fear deli turkey because

389
00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:51.480
they think it's carcinogenic. What I would say is, do

390
00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:53.599
not buy the ones that are, you know, in those

391
00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:57.440
packages that are that have caramel color and malvodextrin and

392
00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:01.279
caraghin and in it. Just buy the whole foods are Applegate,

393
00:19:01.319 --> 00:19:04.440
whatever brand it is, slice turkey, that the ingredients are

394
00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:07.799
just turkey, salt, pepper, like it's available at Moost stores.

395
00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:10.400
I see it at Target, Whole Foods, Costco, so many

396
00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:14.519
places around the country. Sprouts, And another tip that I

397
00:19:14.599 --> 00:19:18.640
have is if you can pronounce it, it probably.

398
00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:20.119
Isn't the best for you, right.

399
00:19:20.200 --> 00:19:23.279
I mean, there's so many people who would counteract that

400
00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:26.160
by saying you just don't know like the ingredient names.

401
00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:29.160
Ninety nine percent of the times, the foods that I'm eating,

402
00:19:29.240 --> 00:19:32.880
I know, I could easily understand every single ingredient, and

403
00:19:32.920 --> 00:19:35.119
they are things that my grandparents would have eaten. And

404
00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:37.799
you just don't want to go into the bioengineered mess.

405
00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:41.200
The artificial dies. I mean, they're just so unnecessary in

406
00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:43.279
our food, and you'll feel so much better. I'm not

407
00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:45.880
only about losing weight and getting to your goal weight,

408
00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:47.440
but also feeling good every day.

409
00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:51.079
Well that's key because if you're not feeling good, then

410
00:19:51.480 --> 00:19:53.960
you're going to probably gain the weight back anyway, because

411
00:19:54.000 --> 00:19:55.599
you're miserable not feeling good.

412
00:19:55.680 --> 00:19:56.960
Yeah, you know, and.

413
00:19:58.920 --> 00:19:59.920
It is.

414
00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.640
It's interesting what we're talking about too, because like I

415
00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:06.440
travel all over the world a lot, and let's take

416
00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:09.480
something as simple as cocoa puffs, which is something I

417
00:20:09.519 --> 00:20:11.759
would never eat in the United States, but I used

418
00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:17.559
to love in the Netherlands. Cocoa puffs has three ingredients

419
00:20:17.640 --> 00:20:19.319
and three grams of sugar.

420
00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:23.279
Yeah, cocoa probably it's probably like twenty five grams of

421
00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:25.920
sugar here and twenty ingredients.

422
00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:29.200
Right, and plenty that you can't even pronounce her. And

423
00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:32.000
I remember too, when like MSG was a thing, so

424
00:20:32.079 --> 00:20:34.920
they outlied it so now they just call it natural flavoring,

425
00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:35.599
and it's okay.

426
00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:38.240
I still see MSG on labels blue.

427
00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:40.920
Hear really Yeah, Yeah, that's wild.

428
00:20:41.759 --> 00:20:45.240
Well, because a lot of the companies they instead of

429
00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:46.720
saying MSG, they just call.

430
00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:49.440
It natural flavoring. Yeah, yeah, it's wild.

431
00:20:50.200 --> 00:20:53.200
So, so how do people reach out to you on

432
00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:56.400
socials on the web. How can they reach out to

433
00:20:56.400 --> 00:21:00.759
you to if they want coaching from you or tips

434
00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:01.359
or anything.

435
00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:05.160
So, my Instagram, TikTok, and Facebook and YouTube are all

436
00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:08.440
at health with Hunter and you could just search health

437
00:21:08.480 --> 00:21:08.880
with Hunter.

438
00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:11.319
It'll come up. And I post on my.

439
00:21:11.359 --> 00:21:16.359
Instagram story, my YouTube story, my Instagram story, my Facebook story,

440
00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:20.519
and I post reels, graphics, TikTok videos every single day.

441
00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:22.480
It's my full time.

442
00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:25.079
Job and all I'm about is sharing brands that are

443
00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:28.640
better for you, new products that have better ingredients, simple

444
00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:32.759
swaps for things like cocoa puffs and just how to

445
00:21:32.839 --> 00:21:36.480
eat healthy that doesn't break the bank account and that

446
00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:38.720
also helps you feel good nice.

447
00:21:38.839 --> 00:21:43.200
And what about kids, because like I think that's the

448
00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:45.240
hardest thing for parents is figuring out how to get

449
00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:47.079
their kids to eat healthy. And I know you have

450
00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:47.880
some ideas.

451
00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:51.440
Yeah, So there's swaps for everything, whether it's fruit snacks

452
00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:55.279
and you're thinking about giving your kids Dorito's or Welsh's,

453
00:21:55.359 --> 00:21:56.400
there's swaps for everything.

454
00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:58.319
Swap your chips for you.

455
00:21:58.319 --> 00:22:00.640
They don't need to not eat the fun foods, they

456
00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:03.240
just need to find the better ones, because your kid

457
00:22:03.359 --> 00:22:06.400
is not going to know the difference before they try

458
00:22:06.720 --> 00:22:10.000
a chip, whether it's a durrita with eighty ingredients dyes

459
00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:11.039
and MSG.

460
00:22:10.759 --> 00:22:11.759
And artificial flavor.

461
00:22:11.759 --> 00:22:14.079
I could go on and on, or a Sette chip

462
00:22:14.279 --> 00:22:17.000
that has all real ingredients is made with avocado oil

463
00:22:17.160 --> 00:22:21.440
and coconut sugar. So make things like that. For fruit snacks,

464
00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:25.400
give them solely, or that's it fruit gummies. For milk,

465
00:22:25.480 --> 00:22:27.599
I mean, there's so many options for milk now, whether

466
00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:31.400
it's dairy free, plant based, or just regular milk, and

467
00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:33.680
you just want to read those labels. There's so many brands.

468
00:22:33.720 --> 00:22:36.559
I have so many kids snack swaps on my page.

469
00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:39.680
It's honestly inspiring me to do more because parents get

470
00:22:39.759 --> 00:22:42.640
very stressed when thinking about snacks for their kids. And

471
00:22:43.839 --> 00:22:46.519
honestly just remembering like for everyone, not only kids, Like

472
00:22:46.720 --> 00:22:48.880
your home should be your safe space when it comes

473
00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:52.079
to nutrition, and if you have foods that trigger you

474
00:22:52.160 --> 00:22:54.599
in your home, Like there was a time when I

475
00:22:54.799 --> 00:22:57.119
was obsessed with peanut butter and I could eat half

476
00:22:57.119 --> 00:22:59.720
of a jar of peanut butter just standing at my pantry,

477
00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:02.400
and that was something I needed to eliminate for a

478
00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:06.119
little time being and now I'm completely fine with having

479
00:23:06.119 --> 00:23:08.119
a jar to a peanut butter in my pantry and

480
00:23:08.319 --> 00:23:09.880
I don't get triggered or feel like I need to

481
00:23:09.880 --> 00:23:10.359
eat it all.

482
00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:13.880
So remember that if something's triggering you, something doesn't.

483
00:23:13.559 --> 00:23:16.160
Go well with you, you don't need it in your environment.

484
00:23:16.279 --> 00:23:18.160
And then you could have it when you're out. But

485
00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:20.680
your home should be a safe space for nutrition. And

486
00:23:20.759 --> 00:23:23.359
stock it up with great foods and shop those sales,

487
00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:26.000
because the sales are when you save a lot of money,

488
00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:32.119
whether you're at Whole Foods, All d Costco, Thrive Market, Target, Amazon,

489
00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:35.119
shop the sales and stock up. That's what I do.

490
00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:38.359
Saves me thousands a year and you'll thank yourself later.

491
00:23:39.079 --> 00:23:39.400
Nice.

492
00:23:39.759 --> 00:23:45.200
And so I want to know too, what was it

493
00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:48.400
that made you go viral to get up to over

494
00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:51.039
a million followers on your socials.

495
00:23:51.240 --> 00:23:53.839
Yeah, so altogether it's at like one point two million,

496
00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:56.680
which is crazy. And one thing that I will say

497
00:23:56.680 --> 00:23:58.400
above all, and you'll hear this all the time i'm

498
00:23:58.400 --> 00:24:00.480
sure from your guests, is consistency.

499
00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:01.279
Two things.

500
00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:04.160
Consistency and listening to what my followers want. I don't

501
00:24:04.200 --> 00:24:07.559
post things that I think are going to go viral.

502
00:24:07.799 --> 00:24:10.519
I try to post things that I know my four

503
00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:15.079
hundred and sixty five thousand followers on Instagram are going

504
00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:18.440
to want to see things that they've asked me to review,

505
00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:22.880
video ideas that or store locations that they love. I

506
00:24:22.960 --> 00:24:25.680
know my audience loves Costco and they love Trader Joe's,

507
00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:29.119
and I know that I should post more videos at

508
00:24:29.160 --> 00:24:32.359
those stores because those are the most popular with my audience.

509
00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:35.559
I don't think about what non followers are going to want,

510
00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:39.039
because that's not who my videos are going to. At first,

511
00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:42.200
let my followers engage with it, interact with it, share

512
00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:45.000
it to friends and family members, and let the algorithm

513
00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:48.200
do its thing. But I post consistently. I'm very engaging

514
00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:52.160
in my comments and dms, and I just want to

515
00:24:52.200 --> 00:24:54.400
become a very reliable, reputable source.

516
00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:57.039
And that's what I hope I'm doing every day.

517
00:24:57.559 --> 00:24:58.319
Well, I love it.

518
00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:01.839
And one last thing that I think is very important

519
00:25:01.880 --> 00:25:06.160
for the listeners right now is I understand you have

520
00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:09.279
a way that they can year round have that pumpkin

521
00:25:09.400 --> 00:25:12.759
spice Lotte that they wait for Starbucks or anybody else

522
00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:16.160
to have only in Halloween. So let's talk about your

523
00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:16.880
healthy one.

524
00:25:16.920 --> 00:25:19.160
Because yeah, so if anyone wants to see the video.

525
00:25:19.319 --> 00:25:21.880
You could search health with Hunter Fox and Friends. Pumpkin

526
00:25:21.920 --> 00:25:25.200
spice latte and I love pumpkin, and I have pumpkin

527
00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:27.480
all year round. I don't think it needs to be

528
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:29.519
a fall and a little bit of a winter thing.

529
00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:34.119
I love pumpkin. And you all know the main coffee

530
00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:37.359
shops that have their pumpkin spice forrappuccinos with one hundred

531
00:25:37.359 --> 00:25:40.480
plus grams of sugar not going to do good things

532
00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:40.720
for you.

533
00:25:41.319 --> 00:25:42.920
What I would say is take your own at home.

534
00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:45.559
There's pumpkin spice that you could add into almond milk,

535
00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:48.720
you could add into a smoothie, you could add into yogurt,

536
00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:52.680
and it will flavor your food or drink pump with

537
00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:58.519
pumpkin without any sugar, without any calories, and without any bloat.

538
00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:01.640
There's also pump puret that you could of course buy,

539
00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:04.799
and you could froth that into your milk again, your smoothies,

540
00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:07.480
your coffee, whatever it is, and it will turn your

541
00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:10.920
coffee from a bland, black or traditional iced coffee into

542
00:26:10.960 --> 00:26:13.240
a pumpkin coffee. You can make your own cold foam

543
00:26:13.279 --> 00:26:16.200
by frotting it with some heavy cream or some half

544
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:18.440
in half and or I'm in milk or whole milk,

545
00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:22.319
and you have yourself the most delicious pumpkin drink or food.

546
00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:24.799
And there's also pumpkin protein powders out there that use

547
00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:28.440
real pumpkin, enough of the artificial drunk, enough of the

548
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:32.279
artificial sweeteners. And also, we do not need coffee with

549
00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:34.960
ten plus grams of sugar preserving. I mean, you're having

550
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:37.440
three or four coffee's a day. That's more than your

551
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:40.640
recommended sugar intake daily, and it's just in a drink

552
00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:42.359
when you don't even think it's a sugar bomb.

553
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:44.920
I know, right, And I don't drink coffee because I

554
00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:47.039
don't like it. But when I see people going to

555
00:26:47.079 --> 00:26:49.440
get coffee and just pouring the sugar in, I'm like,

556
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:52.279
you obviously don't like the coffee. Now if you have

557
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:55.720
to throw the sugar in there, you obviously don't like it, though,

558
00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:58.000
why do you force yourself to like it?

559
00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:00.680
That's why I always think what that's what happened to

560
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:03.640
me was one night. That's why I thought there was

561
00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:04.200
a problem.

562
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:06.720
I ate a whole box of oreos in one sitting,

563
00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:09.279
and I didn't even really like oreos as much as

564
00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:13.079
a chocoholic. I am that wasn't my go to I'm like, h,

565
00:27:13.799 --> 00:27:15.279
I think there might be a problem.

566
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:15.839
And then I.

567
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:20.119
Found out too, Like you probably know this that people said, well,

568
00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:22.400
it's because you ate like that that you have and

569
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:25.000
I'm like, actually, why I found that is that's the

570
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:27.799
symptom of diabetes, not the cause of.

571
00:27:28.039 --> 00:27:31.079
Yeah, and you're craving sugar regardless of the type of sugar,

572
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:33.920
and you become addicted. But I'm very happy you became

573
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.599
aware and are focusing on you know, healthier swops, healthier

574
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:38.680
products than your audience.

575
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:40.119
Tip same to you.

576
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:44.720
So what would be It's twenty twenty six, So if

577
00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:47.640
we were to give for twenty twenty six the one

578
00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:50.920
goal that somebody should meet in their health and fitness,

579
00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:53.480
if they were to pick one, what would you say?

580
00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:54.240
I love that.

581
00:27:54.400 --> 00:27:57.160
I would say my number one tip would be to

582
00:27:57.319 --> 00:27:59.680
prioritize protein. And I know you probably have heard that

583
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:02.160
a time. But even if you are doing the hardest

584
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:04.440
workouts in the world and are stressing out your body

585
00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:07.519
and trying to build muscle in your sore, you're not

586
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:10.799
doing anything unless you're building muscle, because you're not doing

587
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:14.240
anything unless you're eating protein because without the protein, your

588
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:16.240
muscles are not going to get bigger and they're not

589
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:19.440
going to repair. So you need to whether you want

590
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:22.160
a very lean look, a body builder look, or you

591
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:25.400
just want a natural, normal look. Protein is not going

592
00:28:25.440 --> 00:28:27.799
to make you bulky. What's going to make you bulky

593
00:28:28.279 --> 00:28:31.720
or gain body fat is eating way too many calories

594
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:33.720
over your maintenance calories, which is.

595
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:34.799
An whole other topic.

596
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:38.359
But do not fear protein thinking it's going to make

597
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:41.559
you thick or bulky. What you should be fearing are

598
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:44.799
the ultra processed foods that are addicting and have actual

599
00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:46.759
chemicals in it to make you addicted.

600
00:28:46.400 --> 00:28:47.559
So don't fear that.

601
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:51.200
Also, regardless of the season, always say hydrated, not just

602
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:55.000
with water, water and electrolytes. And again there's very big

603
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:58.359
electrolyte brands out there that have thirteen fourteen grams of

604
00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:00.720
sugar preserving those are not the ones I'm talking about. Me.

605
00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:02.640
Yeah, there you go.

606
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:08.880
Well man, you are definitely walking your talk. I strongly

607
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:13.200
suggest everybody, especially since it's the beginning in twenty twenty six,

608
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:17.160
reach out to you, follow you on socials, get some tips,

609
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.559
and see what you could do to help them to

610
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:23.680
reach their health and fitness goals because I think you

611
00:29:24.319 --> 00:29:27.680
not only have experienced it, but you're a wealth of knowledge.

612
00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:31.200
So thank you for helping people on their journey through

613
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:33.599
your experiences, and thanks for being on the Adventures of

614
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:34.000
Type Man.

615
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:35.000
Thank you so much.

616
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:39.839
Welcome to Rockville returns to Dayton on a International Speedway

617
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:45.359
May seven to ten with food Fighters, My Chemical Romance,

618
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:54.279
Guns and Roses, and the Horizon, Last Tory Style, five Finger,

619
00:29:54.359 --> 00:29:57.839
Dead Spring, Freaking, Benjamin I, Data, Remember, Doc Smack, and

620
00:29:57.960 --> 00:30:01.160
so many more. Welcome to Rockville May seven through tenth.

621
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:03.319
Passes on sale now for as low as one dollar

622
00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:05.359
down and Welcome to Rockville dot com.

623
00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:09.160
The Sonic Temple Art and Music Festival returns May fourteenth

624
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:16.880
through seventeenth with My Chemical Romance Tool, bring Me the

625
00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:23.160
Horizon and Shine Down, plus Pierce the Veil with Charlotte

626
00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:26.920
the Offspring, Sublime, God Smack, Breaking, Benjamin, Marilyn Manson, and

627
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.119
so many more. Sonic Temple in Columbus, Ohio, May fourteen

628
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:32.559
to seventeen. Passes on sale now for his low as

629
00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:39.119
one dollar down at Sonic Temple Festival dot com.

630
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:43.000
God which you shot?

631
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:53.119
Jack Fos This is the pipe man here on the

632
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:56.559
Adventures Pipe Man W four c Y Radio, And I'm

633
00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:59.480
here with our next guest, who has some killer music

634
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.960
that we're going to talk about after my own Heart,

635
00:31:04.039 --> 00:31:06.559
some of the genres that their influences are.

636
00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:09.319
So let's welcome to the show, Brave Witch. How are you.

637
00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:13.079
We're doing great man, Thanks for having us. We're stoked

638
00:31:13.119 --> 00:31:14.119
to be talking to you.

639
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:16.400
Us stoked to have you here.

640
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:20.880
And I, guys say, I never talked really about band names,

641
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:22.839
but what I do want to say is, how the

642
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:25.160
hell did you get that name? Because that is a

643
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:28.000
cool ass name, and it's so hard to get names

644
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:31.440
all these days for bands.

645
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.480
You know, we started a band back when we were

646
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.119
in high school. There were sophomores in high school. And

647
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:39.200
what I did is I made two callings on a

648
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:41.400
sheet of paper with just a bunch of different words

649
00:31:42.200 --> 00:31:44.720
and decided to like take one word from this call

650
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:46.559
and one for not calling, and just match them up

651
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:49.599
together and ended up with Grave and Witch. And once

652
00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:51.400
we found that, we're like, hey, that's the name.

653
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:54.839
So I'm just all right, I'm just surprised nobody took

654
00:31:54.880 --> 00:32:00.559
it before you, Like seriously, I'm from the original Rash

655
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:04.000
and Death and Black metal days and that name should

656
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:05.400
have came up then I don't.

657
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:10.559
I don't even know how it didn't. Like it's it's perfect.

658
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:14.200
And so I want to know for both of you,

659
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:20.000
what was that moment in time that really this type

660
00:32:20.039 --> 00:32:24.039
of music grabbed you and grabbed your soul and said

661
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:25.759
this is what I need to do.

662
00:32:27.759 --> 00:32:30.160
Oh man, That would probably be around the time Chris

663
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:34.400
showed me Metallica Slayer the Big Four, and then shortly

664
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:38.319
after that it would be really have grabbed our souls

665
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:39.640
and be like, this is what we need to do

666
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:44.359
when we discovered bands like Testament, Creator, Sodom, et cetera,

667
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:47.039
Like there's a cute list, it just keeps going.

668
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:51.359
Yeah, it was more like we got into the more extreme,

669
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:54.240
heavier metal after listening to the Big Fours. When we

670
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:55.799
just say that we wanted to be in a band

671
00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:56.960
and play extreme metal.

672
00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:00.160
So nice, you know.

673
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:07.480
I always love seeing how bands or people throughout time,

674
00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:11.079
since the beginning of the whole thrash, death and black

675
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:16.359
metal scene, how they became into that music, like for us,

676
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:18.960
like I was that Slayer of Metallica's first show ever,

677
00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.000
so I was there before thrash was even a word,

678
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:26.200
and I'm a total thrash metal head, but we needed

679
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:28.799
something before that that led us to that. So you know,

680
00:33:29.119 --> 00:33:32.200
it started with me stealing my brother's albums that was

681
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:36.200
eleven years older than me, that all the sixties and

682
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:40.640
the hippie crap and which I like still to this day.

683
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:46.440
And then it went from that to like the British invasion,

684
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:51.839
like the Maidens and the Priests and stuff like that,

685
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:56.920
and then you got bands like you know, Metallican Slayer

686
00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:01.599
and that just it just blows my mind that these

687
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:05.400
genres are this big today because there were like a

688
00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:08.440
handful of us and we didn't want anybody else liking

689
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:14.039
our music either. You know, the eighties was the master

690
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:18.599
of gatekeeping. Like you couldn't even I liked punk music,

691
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:22.039
but because I had long hair, I couldn't go to punk.

692
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:24.199
Shows because you got your ass beat.

693
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:30.800
It was stupid, Like it was so stupid and like

694
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:34.239
even the fact of okay, funny story for you that

695
00:34:34.280 --> 00:34:38.639
you might have seen its like, but when Slayer first

696
00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:41.400
left LA and went up to the Bay Area, they

697
00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:44.159
used to wear like the black eyeliner to look and

698
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:47.880
that was the evil look in the eighties, and bands

699
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:51.079
like Exodus and Testament and them, they were like, yeah,

700
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:53.440
that shit don't fly up here in the Bay Area.

701
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:59.679
Take that shit off, you know, it's a it's so funny.

702
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:01.880
They that's how it was. And then I go and

703
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:05.960
I do cover jet festivals nowadays, and it's like, we

704
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:08.280
can all be one big family, which is what we

705
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:11.360
should have been to begin with. All metal heads, all rockers,

706
00:35:11.400 --> 00:35:16.400
all punkers, we're all of the same cloth. So I

707
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:19.960
love bands like you that are uniting us all together too,

708
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:23.920
because you're even blending genres that we might not have

709
00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:27.199
blended back then, you know, because they were so separate,

710
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.519
so new, and you know it's like, no, it can

711
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:34.079
only be black metal, No, it can only be death metal. No,

712
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:36.880
it can only be fresh until the whole crossover thing.

713
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:38.639
Yeah, definitely.

714
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:42.239
So how you guys feel about that, Like, like that

715
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:46.039
you're in this age now where like you can just

716
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:47.480
play whatever the fuck you want?

717
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:52.159
Well, yeah, pretty much, and there's no filter. There's it's awesome.

718
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:55.239
There's nobody telling us what to do what not to do.

719
00:35:56.000 --> 00:36:01.119
We can we have total freedom whatever we want, and

720
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:02.119
it's awesome.

721
00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:06.400
It's also really hard for us to write in one genre.

722
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:09.440
We have so many different influences of metal that we

723
00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:11.880
like and why we like to play that. We don't

724
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:14.159
like to be monotonous, you know. We like to change

725
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:16.079
it up and add things here and there and try

726
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:18.400
to make something a little different than maybe what people

727
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:20.760
have heard before for the best of our ability.

728
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:25.599
Yeah, we're not trying to be that typical blackened thrash

729
00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:26.760
metal band, you know what I mean.

730
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:28.360
I love that.

731
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:31.199
Every song kind of sounds the same, you know. We

732
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:34.079
try to stay away from that, try to be a

733
00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:37.920
little more like put ourselves out there in a different way.

734
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:38.280
You know.

735
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:41.400
I love that you do that too, because Okay, so

736
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:44.599
back in the day, everybody used to say, like when

737
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:47.840
you like, oh, it all sounds the same, and it

738
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:50.440
didn't like you take the Big Four, they don't sound

739
00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:55.000
the same at all. You know, there's a base foundation maybe,

740
00:36:55.039 --> 00:37:02.000
but you could separate them into different genres realists. And

741
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:07.760
nowadays it's really weird to me that metal bands. I

742
00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:11.159
find metal Core is the biggest offender of it. That

743
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:14.280
they followed this like formula, like they're doing the algebraic

744
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:17.119
equation to make metal, and that was never the case.

745
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:22.320
Like metal started by mistake basically, you know, and experimentation

746
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:25.760
and all that. So I love bands like you that

747
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:29.480
are doing it differently and doing it unique because it

748
00:37:29.559 --> 00:37:32.159
is true even me nowadays, how you say, no, they

749
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:34.920
don't sound sane, But nowadays, I'm like, I can't even

750
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:37.199
tell the difference between some of these bands, you know,

751
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:42.480
because they're all using this formula like metal isn't a formula,

752
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:44.000
Like there was no formula.

753
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:45.800
That's why, like.

754
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:50.559
Metallica originally was considered power metal because they didn't know

755
00:37:50.599 --> 00:37:51.199
what to call.

756
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:57.639
Them that actually, but it doesn't make Yeah.

757
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:01.199
You know how I knew that because I was at

758
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:05.239
that first show and I met Dave Mustaine and he

759
00:38:05.360 --> 00:38:10.039
handed me his business card and it said on it Metallica,

760
00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:12.400
power metal, Dave.

761
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:13.480
Mustain whoa.

762
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.360
And you know because there was no thrash, you know,

763
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:22.239
but they were thrash.

764
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:23.960
There's nobody knew what it was.

765
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:26.079
Yet, Yeah, for sure.

766
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:29.000
And you know how the record labels they all like

767
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:32.239
to put you in this like box. You know, it's

768
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:35.000
like you have to be this genre. You can't like

769
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:38.400
play different things. And I think that's stupid as to

770
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:40.760
me as an artist, I would be bored to death

771
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:44.079
if I was playing the same riffs the same chords,

772
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:48.400
the same drum beats, the same everything all the time, Like,

773
00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:51.559
you can't, like, why would I want to sing the

774
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:54.360
same song over all time? Why would I want to

775
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:57.679
play the same song, especially if you have longevity. Now

776
00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:00.599
you're playing the same song basically for twe years, but

777
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:01.920
they're different songs.

778
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:04.840
Yeah, exactly.

779
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:07.320
Yeah, that's why we try to stay away from that

780
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:09.599
keeps a little more interesting.

781
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:14.039
Especially for ourselves writing the music and doing everything behind

782
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:17.480
the scenes. You know, it's an all time and we

783
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:21.519
it gets boring doing the same thing over and over again, for.

784
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:23.119
Sure, no doubt.

785
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:26.239
Like and even Olie from Bringing Me to Rise and

786
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:28.519
said one time an interview when they would give him

787
00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:32.000
so much grief about the newest Bring Me to Ride

788
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:34.800
some music, He's like, hey, why do I want to

789
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:37.639
write the same song over and over again? And I

790
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:41.360
get it, Like I might have been somebody way back

791
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:43.519
when that would have given hate to them for not

792
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:46.239
sticking to their you know.

793
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:48.760
Your their base day death cores.

794
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:53.800
But I now that I'm an adult, I realized, like,

795
00:39:54.440 --> 00:39:57.239
holy shit, now I know what bands go through. Like

796
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:02.880
even like James, like he talks about how Seeking Destroyers

797
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:07.119
played at the San Jose Shark games, but he complains,

798
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:09.639
not really complained, but he's like, I don't get why

799
00:40:09.679 --> 00:40:11.599
they play the original version.

800
00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:13.559
I didn't know how to fucking sing.

801
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:18.320
That I redid it now that I know how to sing,

802
00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:19.760
that's the better version.

803
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:21.199
But it is.

804
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.320
And that's how an artist would think, you know, whereas

805
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:27.760
probably somebody like me be like, no, I kind of

806
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.480
liked your voice before you knew how to sing, you know.

807
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:33.800
But you have to grow as an artist, right, and

808
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:36.599
that doesn't come from doing the same thing. You got

809
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.760
to experiment and go outside your own box, much less

810
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:41.159
the box everybody else gives you.

811
00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:42.920
Yep, exactly.

812
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:43.199
Man.

813
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:49.320
So how'd you guys meet and how do you know

814
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:53.039
that you were like meant to play music together?

815
00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:54.840
Oh?

816
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:57.840
Man, we met back in the second and third grade

817
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:03.400
in elementary school. Wow. Yeah, we've been best friends ever since.

818
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:05.639
Brothers as we.

819
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:10.280
Started Grave with the sophomores in high school. I was

820
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:14.519
in two other bands during the beginning of high school

821
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:16.960
didn't end up working out, and then me and Andrew

822
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:19.159
got back together and decided to meet Grave Witch because

823
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:22.079
I wanted to start playing more thrash metal, black metal

824
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.000
and whatnot. Because my other bands were more like punk.

825
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:27.639
One of them was kind of like stoner metal, kind

826
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:31.199
of like Black Sabbath, a little bit Electric Wizard style. Yeah,

827
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:33.440
I really wanted to get into the extreme stuff, so

828
00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:36.320
we got together and just ended up creating Grave Witch

829
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:37.679
and have been doing it ever since.

830
00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:43.119
I think we started in twenty thirteen in November. Yeah,

831
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.559
I've been going strong ever since, and we're never gonna

832
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:47.800
give up, never gonna quit. This is our life.

833
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:49.039
I ever.

834
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:54.079
Well, that's like when people say to me, I used

835
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:57.519
to like metal, and I'm like, then you never liked

836
00:41:57.519 --> 00:41:58.320
the metal.

837
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:03.039
Metal head that says they used to like metal, you know.

838
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:07.360
And being best friends.

839
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:12.119
I think that's so important, you know, because like it's

840
00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:13.880
got to be hell to be in a band with

841
00:42:13.960 --> 00:42:16.719
people that you're not best friends with, Like even that

842
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:19.639
you're friends with, there's friends I have that I can

843
00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:23.519
only tolerate in certain doses, you know, Like so being

844
00:42:23.639 --> 00:42:27.119
a bus together and wanting to kill each other I don't.

845
00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:28.880
Think would be good. You have to be best friends,

846
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:29.719
you know.

847
00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:33.440
It's like bands that It's like there's a lot of

848
00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:36.039
bands that are like siblings, and I always say to them,

849
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:38.199
I'm like, I don't know if I was. If I

850
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:40.480
was on tour with my siblings, I'd probably kill them all.

851
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:47.960
We get along pretty good, but we do get at

852
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:50.320
each other sometimes it's a little bit inevitable.

853
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:53.559
Well you know what, when you've known each other that

854
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:55.280
long and been best friends that long.

855
00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:57.840
There it's different.

856
00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:00.599
Like my best bro life since thirteen. He passed away

857
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:03.239
a couple of years ago, but me and him were

858
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:05.519
like Pie's in the pod in high school and as

859
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:09.400
we got older we got different, but we still stayed

860
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:12.719
like brothers. Like his parents were like parents to me.

861
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:14.519
My dad was like a dad to him, and we

862
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:17.679
considered each other brothers. There are things we agreed on,

863
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:24.079
things we disagreed on, but like you like, embrace the

864
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:29.840
differences because you have that connection that you've always had,

865
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:33.239
you know, And I think that's what makes making great

866
00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:33.920
music too.

867
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:35.559
If you were both exactly the.

868
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:39.519
Same, I think that would make the music boring, because

869
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:44.360
each of you bringing something to the table that can

870
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:50.000
appeal to more people. Yeah, and somebody that can tell you, hey,

871
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:53.840
you're being a douche or no, that song doesn't work

872
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:56.239
at all, and you don't get offended by it, like

873
00:43:56.280 --> 00:43:58.880
when it's your best friend that does it. Like that

874
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:02.280
you've known that long. It's almost like, Okay, maybe I

875
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:07.119
better listen and gay. But that's the like anybody else

876
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:07.519
tells me.

877
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:08.320
I'm like, you don't know.

878
00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:10.519
What the fuck you're talking about. My brother used to

879
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:13.599
say something. I'm like, oh, okay, maybe I better think

880
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:14.039
about that.

881
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:16.280
Yeah, definitely.

882
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:20.639
So you'd say that's how your writing process is, too, right,

883
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:23.480
Like you feed off each other in that way, both

884
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:26.400
in the agreement, but this agreement too.

885
00:44:26.840 --> 00:44:30.000
Yeah, essentially, like I'll start with making some guitar riffs

886
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.760
and starting like the skeleton of a song. I'll come

887
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:34.760
and show it to Andrew, and he'll tell me if

888
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:37.119
he likes the parts, likes the way the song's flowing.

889
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:39.400
If not, he'll show me how to change it. Maybe

890
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:41.280
tell me how I could change this riff or add

891
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:43.400
a part in here and there, and then we'll add

892
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:45.239
the drums in and then just kind of go from

893
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:47.079
there and tweak it as we need to. You know,

894
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:50.280
but we work together, and if he doesn't like something,

895
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:52.000
then I'll see if I can fix it to where

896
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:53.920
we're both in agreement with it. You know, it's not

897
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:56.559
just one way or the other. I would we prefer

898
00:44:56.599 --> 00:44:59.360
if we both agree on everything and now have it

899
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:00.599
be one side.

900
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:04.559
If we both just don't like it, then we come

901
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:07.079
to an agreement and we make we make it known

902
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:10.000
to each other. We don't just keep it if we

903
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:10.719
don't like it.

904
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:13.920
Yeah, I think that's one of the problems with bands

905
00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:16.599
that and that blow up like after a period of

906
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:18.760
time because they never talked to each other, they never

907
00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:20.159
say what they're really feeling.

908
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:26.599
They're all up inside and then they just you know, it's.

909
00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:30.440
Like, yeah, kind of like Perry Ferrel, kind of like

910
00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:32.559
Perry Ferl. That's why I think happened. It was like

911
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:38.920
whatever was bothering Perry and Dave blew up that night,

912
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:41.239
you know. And that's what happens when you don't talk

913
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:43.519
it out and hold shit in and just not say

914
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:48.000
your piece. So bravo to you guys like to be

915
00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:51.480
able to communicate. I think it's so key to communicate

916
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:56.719
properly to make great music, you know. And uh so

917
00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:01.480
I also want to know how much fascinated about by

918
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:04.239
bands I've been around for a while and then they

919
00:46:04.320 --> 00:46:06.199
come out with their self titled album?

920
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:09.320
What was the thought process there?

921
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:12.840
Because that's your most recent album, is the self titled one,

922
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:16.119
but you've been around forever now, Yeah, So what.

923
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:18.679
Happened with that was we wrote all these songs back

924
00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:21.920
in twenty twenty during COVID when there's nothing going on,

925
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:25.400
and it took us, I don't know, three to four

926
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:27.400
years to be able to even get into a studio

927
00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:30.719
to get them recorded. All of those songs, they're like

928
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:34.039
completely different from each other, all different topics and things.

929
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:36.840
It doesn't have like a theme or anything to it.

930
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.559
So when we were recording the album and putting everything

931
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:42.000
together trying to find a name for the album, nothing

932
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:44.679
seemed to fit because every song is different.

933
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:45.840
And we really struggled with that.

934
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:49.000
There wasn't an overarching theme for anything of it, just as.

935
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:51.400
It's just Brave Witch exactly.

936
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:53.239
So that's why we call it Grave which because it's

937
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:56.400
pretty much just showcasing our style and a bunch of

938
00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:57.800
different songs.

939
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:00.320
So you know, I decited to go with that.

940
00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:05.719
You know, it's interesting too. Like I said during that

941
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:09.199
whole COVID thing, if you're gonna take one good thing

942
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:12.760
out of COVID for music, is that gave artists like

943
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:15.840
you guys and everybody else the chance to jump off

944
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.519
the hamster wheel and just create without all the noise,

945
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:23.880
you know, and and I definitely felt like some of

946
00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:27.440
the best music that will ever come is coming out

947
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:30.440
of that time. And your album is a perfect example

948
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:34.599
of that because like as an old school metal head

949
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:38.400
from the beginning of all this stuff, you guys, with

950
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:41.639
this album and the music on it could fit in

951
00:47:41.679 --> 00:47:46.199
the eighties no problem. And that's just that's a big

952
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:54.079
compliment because you know, thank you, yeah, you definitely you

953
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.000
have it down. And I think what it is is

954
00:47:57.119 --> 00:47:59.159
like that's what was cool about COVID. You had a

955
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:03.480
time to stuff and just get creative again. It's almost like,

956
00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:06.480
I don't know, I think musicians, and a lot of

957
00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:09.960
friends of mine are musicians. They agreed that like they

958
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:14.000
found the passion again that they lost because you're on

959
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:22.599
this hamster wheel that isn't fun at times. So tell

960
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:25.159
everybody how to reach out to you guys on socials,

961
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:27.960
on the web, how they get your albums, how they

962
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.679
get your merch, check out when you're going to be

963
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:32.559
playing places, all that great stuff.

964
00:48:34.119 --> 00:48:37.400
We are pretty active on posting to our Facebook pages

965
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:41.880
and our Instagram accounts. Another good way to find our

966
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:47.119
merch is to search Gravewich on band Camp. We have

967
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:50.039
our merch up there. Soon we will be updating it

968
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:53.599
and putting more of our shirts on there, and we'll

969
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:58.519
be updating shipping information and everything else to a music

970
00:48:58.679 --> 00:49:03.639
You can stream us on Spotify, YouTube, Amazon Music, Pandora,

971
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:08.119
you know, anywhere, and you can find our music videos

972
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:11.960
for Mistress of Hate and Damnable Evil, along with a

973
00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:14.719
Circle of Power from our first album, The Summoning, up

974
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:22.840
on YouTube right now. Oh yeah. We also have vinyls

975
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:28.360
that our record label, Rock Sun Records helped us acquire,

976
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:34.679
and physical copies will be available at our merch table,

977
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:37.280
and soon we will also be getting them up on

978
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:39.400
band camp as well. We just need to go in

979
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:43.840
and figure out shipping info. I love it.

980
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:48.000
It's so wild to me how vinyl is so big now,

981
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:54.400
Like my my grandson, okay, he collects vinyl. Just found

982
00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:56.920
out my granddaughter collects vinyl.

983
00:49:57.559 --> 00:49:58.960
Like that's amazing.

984
00:49:59.760 --> 00:50:04.760
Yeah, they're both like, you know, you would think they

985
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:08.360
wouldn't want vinyl at all because they're both growing up

986
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:12.760
in this age. And I was actually in shock because

987
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:17.760
I took my granddaughter to get a vinyl album at

988
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:23.639
the store recently. It was thirty six bucks. I was like,

989
00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:29.000
holy crap, thirty six dollars for vinyl. I'm like, I

990
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:30.840
told her, I'm like, you could come to my house

991
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:34.360
and I got stacks of vinyl, some that's not even

992
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:36.400
open that you can see the price stag on it

993
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:38.880
where it was like two ninety nine.

994
00:50:41.199 --> 00:50:41.639
Wow.

995
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:44.519
Man, Like I could imagine when I was a teenager

996
00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:47.679
buying vinyl for thirty six bucks. It was enough to

997
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:51.679
scrape together whatever I needed to scrape together to get

998
00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:52.960
even a demo tape.

999
00:50:53.880 --> 00:50:58.440
Yeah, you know, but man, it is kind of cool.

1000
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:02.000
I have I have this one vinyl of a band

1001
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:04.920
I interviewed that festival recently. Like what they do with

1002
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:08.360
the vinyl so amazing. It has like their blood actually

1003
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:09.199
in the vinyl.

1004
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:12.760
Wow, that's like that is sweet.

1005
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:16.800
So like it's kind of wild what's going on nowadays.

1006
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:20.840
But like the fact that my grandkids are collecting vinyl,

1007
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:24.639
that just says a lot to me. And it says

1008
00:51:24.679 --> 00:51:30.159
to me that maybe, just maybe music is making a comeback.

1009
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:33.000
Opposed to to let me listen to ten seconds and

1010
00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:37.920
move on to the next track, yeah, yea, yeah, you.

1011
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:41.280
Know, like we like to listen to the full album usually,

1012
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:42.679
especially if it's a good one.

1013
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:43.760
Front of the back.

1014
00:51:45.039 --> 00:51:46.639
Oh, no doubt, no doubt.

1015
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:50.079
And like I even get into times now where like

1016
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:54.800
something's going on where I'll just go through the whole

1017
00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:57.840
catalog of one band from the first album to the

1018
00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:03.079
last and just listen straight through, you know, like it's

1019
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:06.039
like there's some anniversary. All oh, well, then I better

1020
00:52:06.119 --> 00:52:07.559
listen to all the albums, you.

1021
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:12.840
Know, like musicians that passed away. You know, it's like

1022
00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:13.960
gotta do that.

1023
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:19.679
Right, right, and like listen party experience. And I think

1024
00:52:19.760 --> 00:52:22.920
kids are missing today that maybe now they're getting back

1025
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:26.760
because this resurgence is I sat on my I remember

1026
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:29.880
sitting on my balcony. I'd buy and buy an album.

1027
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:33.159
I would put on, put the headphones on, I would

1028
00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:36.760
look at all the artwork, I'd read all the lyrics,

1029
00:52:36.800 --> 00:52:40.599
like I would just totally immerse in it. And the

1030
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:44.239
thought of even changing a track didn't even occur to

1031
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:46.199
me because I was in there for the whole thing.

1032
00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:49.079
Like imagine listening to Dark Side of the Moon only

1033
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:53.320
a track or you know a couple of seconds and

1034
00:52:53.360 --> 00:52:58.440
then skipping to another song. Yeah, that doesn't do you

1035
00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:03.880
any just right, right, And so you know, I mean,

1036
00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:06.760
I think it's just I think the all of the

1037
00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:12.719
art is a super immersive experience, and especially nowadays when

1038
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:16.079
we have so much bullshit going on, we need the

1039
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:19.239
escape of music and that's what happens with an album.

1040
00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:23.320
You escape in the album and who cares about anything else.

1041
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:26.039
Yeah, that's more important alb than ever.

1042
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:28.360
Seriously, no doubt.

1043
00:53:28.840 --> 00:53:31.639
So thankful for bands like you that are putting out

1044
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:35.800
albums where we could do that, and especially like your

1045
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:39.960
Your Namesake album. I mean, the fact that it's got

1046
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:43.159
so many different types of songs on it makes me

1047
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:45.320
want to listen to a whole album because you don't

1048
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:47.239
know what's coming next.

1049
00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:49.360
Yeah, for sure, I'll tell you.

1050
00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:54.679
So anything ain't final words.

1051
00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:56.880
Things you want to say to anybody that we haven't

1052
00:53:56.880 --> 00:53:58.920
covered array that they need to know that's going on

1053
00:53:59.000 --> 00:53:59.559
with you guys.

1054
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:05.440
And to twenty six, we're just kind of working behind

1055
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:08.800
the scenes getting new music written. We are working on

1056
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:11.639
releasing three singles between.

1057
00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:17.719
No time date yet, but between this second album and

1058
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:20.559
third album, we want to release three more singles before

1059
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:23.840
we put out another full album.

1060
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:27.760
Nice cool beating on music.

1061
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:31.400
We as the three singles. I think we have six

1062
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:35.119
or seven songs for a third album so far, probably right,

1063
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:37.880
four or five more maybe and try to hit the

1064
00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:40.679
studio and get it out within another year or so possible.

1065
00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:43.400
So very cool.

1066
00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:47.599
Well, you guys rock and thanks for making us such

1067
00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:49.920
great music and thanks for being on the Adventures of

1068
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:50.519
Pipe Man.

1069
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:53.880
It is a pleasure, man, Thank you for having us.

1070
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:55.840
It has been a pleasure to talk to you.

1071
00:54:55.920 --> 00:54:57.639
Man is gave here.

1072
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:02.599
I love hearing that because as I think as if

1073
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:06.920
I were the musician, you know, gain interviewed, and sometimes,

1074
00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:09.320
like when I do the festivals, I listen to some

1075
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:11.159
of the other people, I'm like, oh my god, I

1076
00:55:11.199 --> 00:55:14.440
would be like shooting myself right now with those the artists,

1077
00:55:14.480 --> 00:55:18.119
like you gotta make it fun and interesting, like the

1078
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:21.199
guys are artists. It's not this is the business side

1079
00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:23.280
of it. Don't make it the business way, you know.

1080
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:27.760
It's like, have fun with it. He created exactly.

1081
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:30.840
Let it take a life of its own. That's my viewpoint,

1082
00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:34.719
you know. And then that's when you find out the goal.

1083
00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:37.719
That's when you find and that that's when the band

1084
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:40.519
is into it. Like nothing would kill me worse. And

1085
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:42.639
if I saw in the eyes of a band while

1086
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:49.119
I'm interviewing that they're just not into it. Like this

1087
00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:52.360
is supposed to be fun for all of us. That's

1088
00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:55.880
what music's about, and that's what you guys are about.

1089
00:55:55.920 --> 00:55:56.599
So I love it.

1090
00:55:57.320 --> 00:55:59.880
Oh yeah, oh yeah man, due, thank you so much.

1091
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.639
It's my pleasure. You guys rock.

1092
00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:06.960
Take it easy, YouTube, man, take care hap Happy New

1093
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:09.119
Year YouTube.

1094
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:14.559
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pateman on

1095
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:18.000
w f c u I Radio.