Aug. 10, 2026

Change Persona talks music evolution, punk vs metal, and festival adventures on PipemanRadio

Change Persona talks music evolution, punk vs metal, and festival adventures on PipemanRadio
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In this energetic episode of the podcast, Pipeman sits down with George and Connor from Change Persona at Bloodstock Festival. The conversation dives into nostalgia for old music formats, evolving music trends, live show experiences, band dynamics, and the importance of authenticity. The trio shares laughs, festival stories, strong opinions on beer, and their philosophy on keeping music fun and real.Main Topics Covered

  • Nostalgia & Old Music Formats (00:46)
    • Cassette tapes, 8-tracks, and VHS tapes
    • The quirks (and struggles) of listening to and recording music in the past
  • Music Consumption & Playlists (03:39)
    • How digital platforms and algorithms influence exposure to new music
    • The shift from immersive album listening to quick-track mentality
  • Band Merch & Ticket Prices (04:56)
    • The rising cost of concert tickets and band merchandise
    • Personal rules for buying gig tickets (06:49)
  • Festival Culture & Pit Etiquette (07:49)
    • Differences between US and UK festival crowds
    • Stories involving public urination, mosh pit mishaps, and community
    • Pit etiquette: taking care of each other, calling out dangerous behavior (36:13)
  • Beer & Festival Beverages (09:48)
    • The ongoing Budweiser vs. craft/local beer debate at festivals
    • Anecdotes about beer-induced aggression and personal preferences
  • Musical Evolution & Gatekeeping (21:25)
    • The struggle between evolving artistically and fan expectations
    • The “gatekeeper” mentality in rock and metal communities
    • Supporting bands through their genre shifts (e.g. Bring Me the Horizon, Metallica, Linkin Park, Rush, Iron Maiden)
  • Authenticity in Writing & Performing (23:19)
    • Writing music for oneself vs. for the audience
    • The value of imperfection in live shows
    • Encouraging uniqueness and moving beyond formulaic creation
  • Band Stories & Festival Experiences (34:35)
    • How Change Persona landed a spot at Bloodstock Festival
    • The supportive and family atmosphere at Bloodstock
    • Comparisons to other major festivals and their differences
  • Music Scenes & Inclusivity (20:05)
    • The blending of punk, metal, and other alternative genres
    • Embracing what you love regardless of scene labels
  • Upcoming Projects
    • Change Persona’s new EP and plans for release (41:11)
    • Importance of following their socials for updates
Key Discussions & Stories
  • Pipeman, George, and Connor reminisce about the cassette tape era, rewinding tapes with pencils, and the charm and challenge of early music technology (00:46).
  • Hilarious festival stories: adult diapers in line for barrier, Budweiser in Germany, public urination at Download, and the winds of dinosaur mosh pits (08:05; 37:58).
  • Reflection on the impact of streaming playlists and the push-pull between song popularity and genuine fandom (03:57).
  • Discussion of aggressive behavior in pits and how the culture of looking after each other is vital for a friendly scene (36:13).
  • Insights into why bands must evolve musically, and the personal experience of shedding formulaic writing to create their best work yet (23:03; 25:13).
  • Tales from the road: punk rock bowling in Las Vegas, playing Rebellion festival, and the punk/metal crossover (17:10).
  • Philosophical takes on the importance of enjoying what you love and encouraging inclusivity within music subcultures (20:35).
  • The inside story of Change Persona’s Bloodstock invitation, their “happy mistake,” and festival community (34:11).
Notable Quotes
  • “The struggle was real.” – Pipeman (03:34)
  • “If you're not best friends, you'll be like Perry Farrell and punching out your bandmate on stage.” – Pipeman (42:51)
  • “Just enjoy what you enjoy and let people get on with it. Your life’s just that little bit less crap and hard.” – Connor (20:35)
  • “You're never gonna please everybody… just please yourself and you'll attract your people.” – Pipeman (23:19)
  • “If all these problems are so easy to solve, just don't listen to it.” – Connor (26:14)
  • “It’s just a down-to-earth conversation, you know.” – Connor (44:20)
  • “How do you say your name?” – Connor (44:35)
  • “That'd be so brilliant. You gotta do that for the next album.” – Pipeman (46:18)
  • “We started out as best friends in high school and we just done it because we all love music and we're all best friends.” – George (42:36)
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Hi, you love Done Too True for Wow, for you you.

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It is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man W four c Y Radio, and I'm here with.

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George from Chains Persona and Connor Nice.

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And you're also from that same band, right. That would

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be funny though, Like it's if I was interviewing somebody

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and they're like, well, I'm from this band, and I'm

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from this band.

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We just found him on the street outside and I

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do that on my live show.

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I'm like, all right, I'll do the thing.

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I did that on my live show, Like I pretend

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like I just pulled a random off the street and

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like do both things, and it's pretty funny. I don't

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know if I talked about this last time, but I

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love your tattoo and it gives me PTSD at the

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same time, Yeah.

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You did, because what's talking about having to rewind manually

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and stuff like that.

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Yeah, yeah, I could remember, but now it hit me again.

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I'm like, huh, that's giving me PTSD right there, because

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the fucking cassette tapes and then coming out and using

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the pencil and cutting and splice it with scotch tape

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like the ship we had to do.

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Yeah, recording tracks off the radio and.

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Totally or like I have Metallica's demo that you can't

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even hear what it says because it's been recorded over

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fifty times in the tape training days.

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You know.

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Well, in terms of rewinding, we have the rewind button now,

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so don't.

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Worry, dude, right right right, Oh my god, everything there

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like movies and stuff.

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You have VHS tapes like oh yeah, and.

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Then like you'd hire something and have to rewind it

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before you take it back.

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To the store.

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Yeah, or else you got penalies if you didn't rewind

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it before you brought it back. You know, there's still

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one Blockbuster in the world. It's in Mexico.

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Yeah, I think I saw this is one that's still

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hanging on just about and it isn't more for the

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novelty of it's like a retro time WALPCE.

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I know, right, I'll bring back bring back Blockbuster, I.

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Say, there you go.

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They are bringing back my Space did you know that

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the other day as well?

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That's fucking wild.

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I wonder if they still have my profile and Tom

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still my friend.

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I was wondering that it's not going to be the

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same otherwise.

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Yeah, I was wondering that if when it comes back,

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if Tom's still your first friend.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's nice. Everyone started with at least

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one friend.

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Yeah yeah.

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If you're a loner, you at least have one friend.

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They're like, oh, you've got no friends. You've got no friends.

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You're like, well, I've got Tom from my space. Yeah,

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Tom's my friend, He's my best friend. I say they

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should bring back eight tracks. You know I had Blizzard

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of Ours on eight track.

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Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's funny. Okay, so the

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eight tracks, it would split between tracks, so if it

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it would do it right in the middle of a song.

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So mister Crowley.

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Used to fade out, it would change tracks and fade

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back in, and then used that the struggles. Man. Yes,

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it used to have to take a matchbook thing and

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put it underneath, otherwise it would be like me too well,

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so you would have to put that to prop it up,

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and then it would be at normal speed.

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Man.

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Sometimes you know, you just gotta give a bit of

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a manual influence, right, and.

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Then the struggle was real.

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It's something fun about it. I think walking out.

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There is something about it to be real. Like today

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with the track track track mentality. It's like it's good

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for artists in one way, but not in another, because

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like you used to immerse yourself in their music and

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then the album and now it's like, oh I listened

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in five seconds, that's enough.

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You know.

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It's all like playlists now, isn't it, and find so

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much about bands that make it now it's like if

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that Spotify algorithm goes with them, like I find like

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certain artists every playlist you listen to the same, like

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four or five tracks are on them. Yeah, And it's

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like I like this band, but I feel like it's

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almost like I've been in like conditioned to like them

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through exposure rather than it's a track that actually I

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vibe with and that I say, I heard it once

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on the radio.

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Am I going to listen to that again? Probably not?

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But if you ram it through me in every playlist

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I listened for the next two months, like I probably

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will end up liking it, is that kind of Yeah.

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Well, like like you ever bring me in a rising shirtlin,

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So I'll tell Apple Music like I'll say, play bring

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me the Risin, and for fuck's sake, every time the

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first song is can You Feel My Heart? Yeah, It's

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like I love that song, but can I listen to

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something else too?

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Yeah?

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Ess what song is on the back of that T

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shirt as well?

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Think it is it is? That's a cool shirt.

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In a little secret, I didn't actually get this from

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like a merch stand for like fifty to one hundred

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quid or whatever. It was like, we have this like

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really cheap clothing store in the UK called Primark and.

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I know that. Yeah, I've been there.

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Twelve pounds.

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Oh nice.

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Fuck it is here one near Bloodstock. I'm gonna go

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there now.

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They're in most towns.

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We're gonna end the irview. I'm going over there. Yeah,

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like I was so you missed it. We could match yesterday.

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I was where when it might bring me to Rise

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and Shirts and it's like, but they're merged, Like okay,

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so you can tell this is twelve quid.

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Yeah, Okay.

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Their merge, I'm surprised is pretty fucking good because this

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shirt is so thick. It's like, oh my god, I've

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never gotten merged. So props to them for doing that, because, like.

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You know how most bad merches guild down heavy. Look

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at the label, they all say guild down Heavy. I

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think our merches guilding out.

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I have a feel of that.

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Yeah it's thin, yeah yeah yeah, see yeah, that's that's

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proper care quick exactly.

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You get what you pay for.

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But it is ridiculous. I don't know how kids do

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it today. Like I went to a show. You paid

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two hours and seematallica and five dollars to buy a

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T shirt, like and that was also like a million

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dollars to you're a teenager. It's like you had to

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scrape up pennies. They don't even make those anymore. Yeah,

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you know, to buy your ticket.

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It's crazy.

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Oh, Like Connor has this rule with gig tickets, like

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when we were younger, right, we'll go to a show

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and I'll send the other day so all to Bridge.

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When I was probably like I don't know, probably like

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early twenties, late teens, and I remember paying fifty pounds

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to seeal to Bridge and thinking, oh my god, this

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is like the most expensive gig I've ever been to.

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But I really want to see alter Bridge, so I'll

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pay it. I remember being like a little bit annoyed.

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I'd spend so much. Now that'd be cheap, right, right,

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And exactly Connor has this this stunt you want to say.

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So, it's basically any gig ticket that is triple digit

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So I won't pay Yeah, absolutely not. That's absolute extortion.

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If I don't have a media paths, I'm not paying

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for that ship man. Like I could go I live

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in Florida, I could go to Bahamas for the price

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of buying a ticket for a couple hour concerts. And

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I love the music and I love the concert, But like,

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do I really want to spend like like the Who

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in the United States, like the Nosebleed it is two

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hundred and fifty dollars the last time they played, Like

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that's fucking insane.

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You're just watching this dot in the distance.

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And yeah, you're up in the fucking bleachers, you know,

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and exactly you can't even see the shit. If you

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want to be like upfront. Or here's the thing that

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bothers me too, you buy a pit pass. Like when

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I was younger, that was the chief ticket, the general admission.

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Now you pay more to go into gerald mission to

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be able to be in the marsh pit.

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And have you heard this stuff in the media recently

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about people who pay all this money for gigs and

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because they're waiting for what they call is it like

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they're waiting for barrier or whatever you call it.

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So they're queuing for.

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Hours, no access to the toilet, and they're going to

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gigs and like adult diapers or whatever.

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Yeah, like, who was it? What was that artist the

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other day that said I.

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Think I heard it, I can't remember that it is

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from the stage.

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Oh my god, that's just And.

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There was another band, I think it was like a

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European band, and someone actually kind of made a mess

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in the mosh pit and then people.

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Were throwing up, which was making other people. We saw that.

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We saw that and people pissing in the pit. But

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if I I found that the first time I came

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to UK and did download.

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No offense. But you guys will piss wherever.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, And I saw a line up against the wall

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like the stage, like it was the urinal thing, but

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it was just the walls.

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It comes the official urine, right, Yeah.

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You know in the States, you do that, you could

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go to jail. It's against the lad the piss in

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public because it's like obscenity.

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You know. Here you guys like I even okay, maybe

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it's because I'm American. I just have a problem with

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peeing in those troughs. I want to be that close

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to all the other dudes and their ship and whatever.

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Yees, stay try, I know I do.

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Like I went there last sec the a batos, the

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private ones were all like, that's so I go in.

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I was like, fuck, I can't piss because I have

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somebody like squishing next to me and.

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Either shoulder contact. It's not fun.

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Yeah, no, no, no, no, that's not that's not good.

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I don't get as well. To be fair, exactly, do

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you be a swang? You know exactly?

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I think some of that those where like the British

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in general, would just like really love a beer, and

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the more beer you consume, the more you gotta do

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something about it.

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Yeah, well that's kind of true.

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Yeah, you know what was kind of weird. I was

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just at baking last week. Okay, you talk about beer,

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some of the best beer in the whole world, and

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the sponsor was Budweiser. I was like, what the fuck?

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Who comes to Germany to drink Budweiser? We call that

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ship piss water? Yeah?

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Yeah, you go for like some German sounding like Kilsner

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or something. Yeah, exactly, what's the name you can't pronounce,

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and it's in a big thing with a handle on,

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and you're like, yeah, that's what I'm in Germany for, Like.

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Yeah, just I will not take this Budwiser slander.

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He loves Wiser.

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To be fair, I love a Budweiser, one of my

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favorite beers.

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You can call you're you're not English.

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Then we were only arguing last night in the supermarket

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when we were getting beers for the apartment, were staying in, and.

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He put a box of Budweiser in.

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I was like, dude, can you not just get something

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everyone will drink great?

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Like I'm buying this with myself, motherfucker.

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Okay, to be fair to me, Guinness is fucking gross. Okay,

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I know you guys love it, but for me.

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You hate.

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I love exactly.

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This is going to go. I feel like with Guinness, though,

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it's like you have to learn to like it, almost

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like my first Guinness. I told so put it in

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this way, like your first beer when you were like, however,

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old sixteen, seventeen eighteen, however old, no one enjoyed.

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Their first beer. If they told you they did, they're

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a liar.

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I wonder why people have acquired taste, Like if you

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didn't like it, why are you doing it?

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Because we like the effects exactly feel.

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Good or at that age or just like what everyone

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else is doing it.

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I must been drunk back then. It was just a

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new fun experience.

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Yeah yeah, yeah, now you just did it.

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It didn't minute what it was. I think we were

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drinking like this sider called k oh which is basically petrol.

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Like rocket fuel, was like eight percent though it got us.

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There man, in a couple of cans, you know, and

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it was cheap.

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Well that's like we have in the state's grain alcohol.

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It's like one hundred and ninety eight proof. It's like pure,

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like it's almost rubbing alcohol moonshine, but like it is

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the first time I drank. I was a teenager and

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I drank it like I was swigging a bottle of

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Jack Daniels and I took a swig and oh my god,

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it took like ten seconds. Was the most fucking drunk ever,

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like because and they're like, why do you drink so much?

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I don't know. I was just taking a swig.

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So that reminds me.

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I went on a work trip to Romania. I've got

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some Romanian colleagues and they had this like a traditional

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shot they do at special meals, like so it's a

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big occasion, like a Christmas meal or whatever, they have

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this like traditional shot they do. And they were like,

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it's really really strong, but you have to try it.

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It's like our national pride. And you're like, well, I

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don't want to offend anyone. Yeah, And I took one

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shot of.

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This thing and immediately I felt like I've been punched

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in the head.

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It was like, whoa, I feel like I've had like

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three beers immediately after that one shot. It was like, dude,

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these guys don't mess around.

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So I was married to a British girl and we

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went to ebcut one time in Florida, where you know,

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if you know about it, you go.

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Around the world, you know.

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And so when we got to the England parts, she's

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telling me, I had to try this drink. Okay, oh

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my god. It was so disgusting to me. You guys, well,

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he probably likes it. Some subjects.

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You're gonna family by saying you.

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Don't like it.

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Right, It was a snake bite.

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I was that like cider and beer with it was.

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Like guinness and cider something like that.

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I'll give you that one because back in the day,

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that was like what was on.

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Offer, right, they had they had like student nights and

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it was like a pound or something for a snake bite.

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And that would get you there, you know, especially when

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you're student you ain't got any money.

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Yeah, exactly, you'll take it.

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It would absolutely have something else.

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Yeah, they're not not anymore.

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I love my Budwiser, thank you very much.

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Right, so now we do. Oh, by the way, about Budweiser,

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Like so there's an earth thing. That's why all the

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rednecks in my country drink it, because there's actually a

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scientific study that there's something in budweiser that's nine other

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beers that causes aggression. Really, and so people the Rednecks

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that drink Budweiser, they're kicking the shit out of each

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other all the time. You look at rather side than

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they want to fight. Do you have that happened? Does

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that happen to him?

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Yeah, all the time. I have to be really careful

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around him.

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He said he got punched in the head by that shot.

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That was actually mean.

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It's actually him yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, No,

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I know over here back in like was it like

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the eighties or whatever. They used to have the same

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problem with stella. Oh okay, and they used to there

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was like a slang name for it was wife beta.

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Oh wow.

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Yeah, it was well known that like it made people aggressive,

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and but I think since then they identified the chemical

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in it and removed it.

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So yeah, so that's like tequila. But I don't have

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that the issue with tequila. Like, but most people tequila

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they turned into the violent fighting drunk.

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Yeah, you know.

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I do feel there's an element of like your temperament

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as a person though, because I feel like, no matter

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what alcohol I drink, I'm not gonna go like looking

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for a fight or punching anyone because that's just not

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how I'm inclined. But certain people I think are looking

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for something and then they just need that incentive to

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push them over the edge.

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Like I think it just affixts your characteristics, right, So yeah,

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if quite an emotional person in that way, then it's

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just gonna enhance that, that makes sense, and make you

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that person. Yeah. I think if you're not like that naturally,

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then there's nothing to enhance if you if you know

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what I.

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Mean, Oh ye, all sense, it's any drug or alcohol.

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That's all it does is really enhance whatever your personality is,

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you know, the stuff that you have an inhibition and

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hold back.

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Yeah, that gets let's let loose.

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Yeah, absolutely agree.

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That's why it's always the Rednecks again in the fights, because.

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That's just who they are culture man exactly.

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So what else you got going on with your music?

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Yeah, I mean we finished recording a new EP a

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little bit ago. We're just sorting out with a pr

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and getting things.

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Together all that fun stuff music.

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Videos, photo shoo.

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Yeah, but yeah it's come together. But yeah, we should

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be releasing soon quote unquote. The most exciting times is

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you know, the stuff is a little bit different than

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we've done before, but you know a little bit more.

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Aggressive as well, I think, which is what goes well

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for this festival because like we were kind of confused

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when we got the like.

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Absolutely thrilled, but also.

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Like when they invited us, they were like, we were like,

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we they know we're not a metal band, right, Like

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we're kind of like punk.

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But what was it they called us? They called us

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punk or.

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Or something that you should have been a rebellion then,

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is what you're saying.

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We did play that once didn't we a few years back?

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But how was that?

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By the way, Like, I haven't been yet because it's

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always the same time as Bloodstark, and I'll pick blood

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Stark every time because I love this festival. Yeah, but

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I would like to cover Rebellion.

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So what was it?

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Like?

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Really cool?

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It's it's very different vibe. It's not like all outdoor

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like it is here or download. It's kind of spread

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across the city almost. They got like a massive ballroom,

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haven't they, the Winter Gardens And it's like this huge

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indoor ballroom with multiple rooms of different stages in each one,

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kind of like you ever been to Alexandra Palace over here.

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Well, it's kind of like.

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I do a festival in the States called Punk Rock

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Bowling and it takes over downtown Las Vegas, and so

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it'll have like one main but then we have like

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the punk Rock Swim that's a swimming pool of a

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hotel on top of a hotel. It's pretty wild. You

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see all the punks doing circle pit in the water,

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all bands playing. They have poker tournaments, bowling tournaments, and

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then they have club shows, like lots of club shows

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all around. So at the end of the main, you know,

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the headliner. Then everybody goes to all the different club shows.

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And the club shows are the fucking best because there's

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so many bands playing, Like there'll be like twenty club

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shows all with like three or four bands playing, So

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no matter what type of punk you like, you could

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go to it. And there is a funny story of

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an interview I did at one of them with Waddie

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of the Bloided, and I knew I would get his goat,

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and I did it because I was interviewing him right

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before he got on stage.

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We're talking.

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My final question was him, So, Waddie, what do you

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think of pop punk?

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Oh?

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My god?

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He went off, and then he went up on stage

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afterwards as yellend fucking pook.

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There's not fucking book you know.

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Ah, he's not punk pop pok.

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He basically rolled him up.

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Oh yeah, purpose for sure, it was great.

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Rolled that show up like tis.

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No doubt, no doubt. It was definitely a more aggressive

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show after that.

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Oh he probably got better performance out of it. He's

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a bit more animated, I know, right, And I know.

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Uh, let's see there was where was I at? I

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think it was hell Fest. It's cool because they have

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the metal different stages, but different metal, like they do

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a different metal and then they have the hardcore stage,

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so like one year they had Exploited Discharge I think

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gb H two and like all the old school.

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You know, that's the same kind of crowd as Rebellion.

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Yeah exactly, So that's why why I go.

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Yeah, oh yeah, if you diggle that stuff, you'd like it,

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you'd love it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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When we went, they had the Stranglers Bad Religion were

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meant to play, and then they pulled out and we were.

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Like, gut it.

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Oh man.

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We saw Cockney rejects and they had from the Jam

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who were like some of the original Jam. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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but not all obviously no Paul Weller. But yeah, it's awesome.

450
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It's a good weekend.

451
00:19:32.680 --> 00:19:35.400
I can't believe you k subs is ny.

452
00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:38.559
Oh it's a shame, right yeah yeah yeah yeah there ending.

453
00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:41.880
I just saw in the States the sub Humans again,

454
00:19:42.440 --> 00:19:44.400
like I couldn't see these bands when I was a kid.

455
00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:46.240
I was along here and I get my ass beat.

456
00:19:46.559 --> 00:19:48.759
So it's great that now I can see them because

457
00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:51.880
we're not a bunch of idiots, you know, like we.

458
00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:53.880
Were talking earlier, weren't you and you're saying about like

459
00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:56.079
the metal heads cat mixed with the punks when you

460
00:19:56.079 --> 00:19:58.640
were younger. That's so alien to us because when we

461
00:19:58.640 --> 00:20:01.519
we were like, if you like alternative music, you were

462
00:20:01.599 --> 00:20:05.319
just branded as you're the emos, whether you're punk.

463
00:20:05.079 --> 00:20:10.720
Where Motorhead Slayer. That was what combined us together. Like

464
00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:14.680
and it's so similar to music, you know, And I'm

465
00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:16.279
so glad that's what I'm saying. You know, I'm so

466
00:20:16.359 --> 00:20:19.000
glad the gatekeepers are almost gone.

467
00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:20.240
Yeah, yeah, because it's just.

468
00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:25.079
We already we're already outsiders in the outside world. We

469
00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:27.240
don't need to be outsiders in our own world.

470
00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:29.119
So you could have said it any better, like if

471
00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:31.799
we're all marginalized then shunned by everyone else, like at

472
00:20:31.839 --> 00:20:35.279
least let us be cool with each other, right exactly.

473
00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:39.119
Also, it's like to get a bit philosophical. It's just like, well,

474
00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:41.319
we've got one chance, really, so why don't we just enjoy?

475
00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:44.880
We enjoy people going with it. Yeah, you're just holding

476
00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:50.799
up for your own your own like selfish pleasure for whatever.

477
00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:53.039
It just doesn't make any sense to me. So just

478
00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:55.440
just enjoy, we enjoy, and just you know, make your

479
00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:57.799
life just that little bit less craping hard.

480
00:20:57.799 --> 00:21:00.839
And like I was saying earlier, like who the fuck

481
00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:03.440
gives a fuck? How does it affect your life in

482
00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:05.240
any way? What somebody else does?

483
00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:07.880
You know, if someone came to me and I knew

484
00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:10.880
they were totally not a metal head, and they're like, oh,

485
00:21:10.920 --> 00:21:13.400
I've listened to this metal band for the first time.

486
00:21:13.400 --> 00:21:15.440
It's the first metal track I've ever heard. I like it.

487
00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:17.400
I wouldn't be like, oh no, that's not for you.

488
00:21:17.480 --> 00:21:18.960
I'll be like, oh cool, here's some other stuff you

489
00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:22.160
could try that you might like. I would encourage it, yeah, or.

490
00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:23.319
Oh that's medal.

491
00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:26.039
Yeah, oh fuck, I hate that so much.

492
00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:29.359
Like here's the thing I hate. Bring me a rison.

493
00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:33.440
I love them. They're like my top five. So many

494
00:21:33.480 --> 00:21:35.519
people give them hate because they want them to be

495
00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:38.839
death core still, and I think their latest music went

496
00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:41.680
back to death cores anyway. Yeah, yeah, And that's the

497
00:21:41.720 --> 00:21:43.880
way I kind of look at same with Metawka. I

498
00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:46.119
was that way while younger, you know, like I was

499
00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:48.279
at their first show ever you hang on and then

500
00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:52.279
the Black album came out fucking posers, sellouts, blah blah blah.

501
00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:57.359
But what they did was they did that, but then

502
00:21:57.400 --> 00:21:59.960
they were able to go back and do what they want,

503
00:22:00.680 --> 00:22:02.039
you know, And that's the where I look at it.

504
00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:02.599
What bring me?

505
00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:06.119
Like they did what they did and then now they

506
00:22:06.119 --> 00:22:08.920
can do what they want. But also I heard out

507
00:22:08.960 --> 00:22:11.519
Ali in an interview and he's like, why do I

508
00:22:11.559 --> 00:22:14.039
want to write the same song over and over again?

509
00:22:14.240 --> 00:22:16.240
And I agree with that that would be born as

510
00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:21.079
fuck as an artist. Yes, that's the word I use

511
00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:23.519
all the time. You got evolved. You want to learn

512
00:22:23.559 --> 00:22:26.599
your craft, like you don't want to stay as shitty

513
00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:28.920
on your instrument as you were when you were fifteen.

514
00:22:29.599 --> 00:22:31.759
If you look at when we started out, we didn't

515
00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:34.559
really have many songs of our own, and the first

516
00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:36.920
aage you emulate your heroes, right, Yeah, So we were like,

517
00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:39.119
everything we play is going to be either a Green

518
00:22:39.160 --> 00:22:41.839
Day cover, a Blink cover at plus the few songs

519
00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:44.920
we've written which sound insanely like that. Then we kind

520
00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:47.960
of got big into like more punk punk, didn't we,

521
00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:49.759
And we'd like started listening to a lot of rights

522
00:22:49.759 --> 00:22:52.359
against some bad religion and that kind of stuff, and

523
00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:54.200
then we started writing more stuff like that. And then

524
00:22:54.200 --> 00:22:55.440
what was it you were telling me the other day

525
00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:57.440
about when you had that penny drop moment about your

526
00:22:57.480 --> 00:22:59.119
writing style and oh yeah.

527
00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:01.480
No, it was your like because I always wrote in

528
00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:04.480
a similar formula, right, So everything started sounding the same

529
00:23:04.519 --> 00:23:07.079
and I felt like I s of exhausted that and

530
00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:10.240
I just felt stuck, like I didn't know what to

531
00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:12.279
write next. And I was like, you know what, fuck it,

532
00:23:12.319 --> 00:23:14.279
I'm just gonna write what I want to write. Yeah,

533
00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:16.240
it doesn't matter what it is. And it's I think

534
00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:18.799
we've done like the best songs we've we've.

535
00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:20.920
Ever like read. I think that's how it works.

536
00:23:20.960 --> 00:23:24.759
So because if you're writing for you instead of the audience,

537
00:23:25.240 --> 00:23:28.039
like listen, you're never going to please everybody, and that

538
00:23:28.079 --> 00:23:31.519
gets frustrating. So just please your say yourself, and you'll

539
00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:35.759
attract your people. Yeah, it's basically what And then when

540
00:23:35.799 --> 00:23:39.480
you're performing it, the audience can see that you're into

541
00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:41.400
it because you get to a point like if you're

542
00:23:41.400 --> 00:23:43.720
performing shit you really don't want to.

543
00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:46.839
It's noticeable, you know.

544
00:23:46.960 --> 00:23:49.359
It's like, what's the point, exactly what you're doing it for?

545
00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:50.119
Right?

546
00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:51.920
It's not for you obviously, no.

547
00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:55.400
And I think uniqueness is key, Like you brought up formula.

548
00:23:55.440 --> 00:23:57.799
I talk about that all the time, like, especially in

549
00:23:57.839 --> 00:24:01.240
like metalcore, Okay, they use I say, they use like

550
00:24:01.279 --> 00:24:05.400
an algebraic equation to make music, you know. And it's like,

551
00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:09.359
then all the bands do sound the same, you know,

552
00:24:09.519 --> 00:24:12.920
whereas like the Big four Thrash, they didn't sound the same.

553
00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:17.039
They weren't even close to sounding the same. They had similarities,

554
00:24:17.480 --> 00:24:18.799
that's it, you know.

555
00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:21.279
I remember when we were younger and that kind of

556
00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:23.920
scene just started up, and you had like asking Alexandria

557
00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:27.759
an attack attack, and they were all very similar, weren't

558
00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:31.359
they to each other? Like yeah, open open one, open, open, open.

559
00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:37.400
Two, right exactly, you know, so like I give props

560
00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:39.079
to bring me to rise and because.

561
00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:41.720
Too, like I came late in the game.

562
00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:44.359
I saw them at festival in the US once because

563
00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:47.480
they weren't really that big in the US yet, and

564
00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:50.319
I'm like, holy fuck, that's the best live show I ever.

565
00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:53.359
But that was when that's the spirit came out. And

566
00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:57.079
then I went back and then I was like, oh,

567
00:24:57.200 --> 00:24:58.119
that's cool, and.

568
00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:01.599
Guys have a back cat exactly exactly.

569
00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:04.799
And I think that's key because then you take people

570
00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:07.960
who probably wouldn't be a fan because they don't know,

571
00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:12.119
and you catch their attention with something different, and then

572
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:13.799
they go into your bad care work.

573
00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:16.759
Yea, you know, I think it says like speaks volumes

574
00:25:16.759 --> 00:25:19.319
about how talented they are that they've gone to the

575
00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:21.720
heaviest of heavy stuff like that we were saying earlier

576
00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:23.519
their newest album, they've gone back to was it a

577
00:25:23.559 --> 00:25:28.359
Suicide Season re record? And that's like proper death core stuff. Yeah,

578
00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:31.400
but then they've got like was it Amo that album

579
00:25:31.400 --> 00:25:34.279
that was like basically pop but still great, And then

580
00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:36.880
you've got like that sem Paternal era where they were

581
00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:40.519
still like they had that perfect balance, I mean, insanely

582
00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:43.319
heavy but also melodic, like they can do it all, yeah,

583
00:25:43.319 --> 00:25:45.720
showing like no matter what avenue they want to go down,

584
00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:46.960
they'll they'll kill it.

585
00:25:46.920 --> 00:25:49.839
At whatever they do. Like that's why they're so beloved, Yes.

586
00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:52.359
Because they have such a variety of sounds that anyone

587
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:54.359
could just sort of cling onto it and really enjoy it.

588
00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:55.160
And they do it really.

589
00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:56.920
Well, apart from the gatekeepers, who are the ones that

590
00:25:57.000 --> 00:25:58.759
are like, oh no, they've done that pop album that

591
00:25:58.839 --> 00:26:00.839
one time, they're dead to me and just like yeah.

592
00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:03.920
The original Death Corps like can't stand bring me arising

593
00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:05.480
now because and like.

594
00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:08.319
Fuck it, Like yeah, so just like the old.

595
00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:10.480
Stuff, there's some bands that I don't like their new stuff,

596
00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:12.400
but does me now don't like the band name or

597
00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:14.039
I just like the old stuff, that's all.

598
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:15.599
Yeah, If all these problems.

599
00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:17.240
Are so easy to solve, just don't listen to it.

600
00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:20.319
Although I must admit I fell in that trap myself

601
00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:23.200
of Lincoln Parko because when I was a kid, they

602
00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:25.680
were like my favorite band in the world, like the

603
00:26:25.720 --> 00:26:28.720
first two Meteor and Hybrid Theory. I still hold them

604
00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:30.839
up there as my favorite albums of all time, and

605
00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:33.119
Minutes to Midnight was good, and then after that they

606
00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:35.200
just went to like synth music, and I was just

607
00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:38.119
I felt like betrayed at the time, and I didn't

608
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:40.720
listen to them until they kind of went back to

609
00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:43.200
their rock creeks again. So as much as I'm kind

610
00:26:43.200 --> 00:26:45.759
of like to call myself a recrit here much as

611
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:48.319
I'm calling out these people saying it about real, I

612
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:48.920
was kind.

613
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:52.359
Of like that we all do it, you know, listen like.

614
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:56.400
A perfect band for me is Rush as an example.

615
00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:58.680
Once they started putting the synth in, I'm like, yeah,

616
00:26:58.720 --> 00:27:00.279
I don't really like that. And it's not I don't

617
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:04.279
like synth, it just didn't sound like it wasn't Rushed

618
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:07.759
to me anymore, you know, And there's a few bands

619
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.519
like that. It's like they get to a certain point

620
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:15.640
and it's like one might be an unpopular opinion to

621
00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:19.559
me Iron Maiden, Like I love Paul Deiano Days, I

622
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:22.839
love beginning of Bruce Days. But then it started getting

623
00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:25.720
a little silly to me, Like it was like just

624
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:29.799
too much, you know, going in as other eras. So

625
00:27:30.599 --> 00:27:34.759
I think like last album I might liked was like

626
00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:37.319
Power Slave or something like that, and after that it's

627
00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:40.519
just like it's kind of boring me. You know, it

628
00:27:40.559 --> 00:27:42.359
didn't have that same spark.

629
00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:45.599
Yeah, I was just gonna say, this is a bit off.

630
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:49.759
How many albums have Rushed done now? How many? I

631
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:51.400
have no idea how many albums.

632
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:53.279
And there's a lot, a lot, but there's been so

633
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:58.319
much transformation because like the original album sounds nothing like

634
00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:01.640
moving Pictures, and then you go to signals and it's

635
00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:06.000
like you ask me, okay, signals, you last me. It

636
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:08.559
just doesn't even sound like Rush aim or to me,

637
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:11.720
like twenty one twelve is my favorite album by Rush

638
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:15.880
because that is like, oh my god, that's intense, you know.

639
00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:18.119
But I also like the Old Ship from the beginning,

640
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:20.799
but it doesn't mean that's my favorite either, because you

641
00:28:20.799 --> 00:28:23.960
can tell they weren't as good. Yeah, you know, certain

642
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:25.200
things went on.

643
00:28:25.559 --> 00:28:25.839
Yeah.

644
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:27.359
So here's an interesting concept.

645
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:29.200
We were talking over a few beers last night about

646
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:31.839
bass Play Rowan, and we're talking about how when you

647
00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:35.079
listen to bands new stuff that you grew up listening to,

648
00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:37.960
so say you're like twenty, you're listening to stick to

649
00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:39.680
your guns. This is what we were talking about last night,

650
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:41.799
and we were like obsessed with them. I have a

651
00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:44.759
new album come out now, and you're like, it's good,

652
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:48.480
but it's not it's not giving me that that same feeling.

653
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:51.200
And we had this debate of is it a case

654
00:28:51.240 --> 00:28:54.039
that it's because you're now older and you're clinging to

655
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:56.160
that nostalgia of how it made you feel as a teenager,

656
00:28:56.559 --> 00:28:58.759
or is it a case there new stuff genuinely isn't

657
00:28:58.799 --> 00:29:01.839
as good. And we had this two cops and we

658
00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:04.039
were so I'll add to debate.

659
00:29:04.160 --> 00:29:05.240
I think there's two things.

660
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:12.720
Number one is they don't have that raw energy that

661
00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:19.400
you know, like that young, brutal energy. Now they are

662
00:29:19.519 --> 00:29:22.440
kind of settled down a little bit and they you know,

663
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:27.039
it's like when you're a young band, You're just trying

664
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:31.279
to make this impression. So you you just fucking you're

665
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:35.279
pure emotion, and I think as you go on that

666
00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:39.880
maybe that might disappear sometimes for some bands. The other

667
00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:44.079
thing is the nostalgia. It's definitely that, you know. Perfect

668
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:49.119
example is the song Seeking Destroy, so that plays at

669
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:51.880
the San Jose Sharks games all the time, and I

670
00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:56.880
heard Hetfield saying something like, you know, I don't know

671
00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:59.319
why they play my old version of it, like to

672
00:29:59.400 --> 00:30:02.319
kill them All version, because we redid it because I

673
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:06.000
can actually sing now and I couldn't then. I prefer

674
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:08.640
the old version because he had that raw voice. He

675
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:12.160
wasn't trying to sing. Yeah, you know now he tries

676
00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:15.599
to sing, and I like that old like it's like

677
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:21.680
this raw fucking voice that made thrash and now you're

678
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:23.599
just trying to be like you're try and be like

679
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:25.559
Ryan James deeal type of thing.

680
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:28.079
And sometimes like something doesn't have to be glossy and

681
00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:32.000
perfect for it to like have meaning and be like you,

682
00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:34.680
You'll prefer that version because being rough and ready is

683
00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:36.839
what made it so cool. Yeah, Whereas now if it

684
00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:39.079
sounds too glossy, it might sound overproduced. It might not

685
00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:41.640
sound and yeah, there's nostalgia there too, like if it's

686
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:43.680
what you grew up listening, like the Weirdest One right

687
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:48.039
as a kid might have accidentally downloaded some stuff illegally,

688
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:50.279
but like when I was listening to like an album,

689
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:55.240
Mars was right, but you know, like Tenacious D. Yeah,

690
00:30:55.279 --> 00:30:59.160
So the soundtrack of their film The Pick of Destiny

691
00:30:59.640 --> 00:31:03.640
I heard inadvertently downloaded the clean version where they'd swapped

692
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:06.759
the swear words for like let's say frick instead of

693
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:09.559
fuck or whatever. Yeah, and like, oh, if I see

694
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:11.759
them live, I'll be the only person in that room

695
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:13.680
singing the clean lyrics because that's.

696
00:31:13.519 --> 00:31:14.480
Why I grow up listening to.

697
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:16.279
And when I hear the real version of the song,

698
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:18.559
it's like really alien to me. I'm like, what it's

699
00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:21.119
because I've listened to that clean version like a million.

700
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:23.920
Times And now I'll give an opposite thing. For the

701
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:29.079
debate war Pigs, the original lyrics for that song sucked,

702
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:34.000
Like if you hear the original version, it's like it

703
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:37.880
doesn't make you feel the same, and you're listening lyrics

704
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:41.599
like that doesn't even make sense, like the new lyrics

705
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:45.599
or the ones we know, Yeah, like that makes total

706
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:46.839
sense with that song.

707
00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:50.680
This is just contextual. Yeah, like, yeah, it's a case

708
00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:51.640
on case basis.

709
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:53.640
Yeah, I don't know.

710
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:58.160
Sometimes I really prefer the imperfections of songs because that

711
00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:00.880
makes the sound. Yeah, it just makes it who it is.

712
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:03.079
It gives a character. I think if you sort of

713
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:05.960
squeaky clean things and overproduce it, it just can sometimes

714
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:06.839
lose a lot of that.

715
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:10.200
I talk about that with live shows, like your live

716
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:13.599
show should not be the studio. Yeah, I can listen

717
00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:15.880
to that album, out need to go to your live show.

718
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:20.359
The live show should have imperfections, and it should have

719
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:25.440
fuck ups, and it should be just like organic real,

720
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:26.480
you know, real.

721
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:28.759
You know, that's the het look we try to have.

722
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:30.880
If you ever make a mistake on stage, it's like

723
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:33.319
the worst thing you can do is all stop and

724
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:35.400
look at each other. The best thing you can do

725
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:37.920
is laugh and style it out and just try and

726
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:38.599
gloss over it.

727
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:43.039
Most people don't even know this, Yeah exactly. You're your

728
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:46.720
own worst critic, you know, so you think, oh my god,

729
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:49.319
I fucked up, blah blah blah blah. Most people don't

730
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:50.880
even know. They don't know this.

731
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:53.720
Right, I've had it say I'm I don't know, I'm

732
00:32:53.799 --> 00:32:57.160
late coming in, I've played the wrong chord whatever. After

733
00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:58.680
the show, I'll be beating myself up to it and

734
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:00.440
I'll be to like one of our friends, our family,

735
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:02.799
I'll be like, I can't believe it on alien, but

736
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:05.240
I play it. I came in at the wrong time.

737
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:07.640
I'm so annoyed, and they'll be like, what did you

738
00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:10.519
I thought you guys were great, and you'll be like

739
00:33:10.599 --> 00:33:12.920
kicking yourself. And it's only it's taking me years to

740
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:15.559
realize you shouldn't get hung up on those things because

741
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:17.720
now half the time, like you said, no one realizes

742
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:18.759
like it's only you.

743
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:23.359
Yeah, exactly, and that's the beauty of a live show anyway. Yeah,

744
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:25.680
So going back to what you said, So, what was

745
00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:30.519
Bloodstuck's response when you said, well, like, you know, you know,

746
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:32.039
we're really like punking.

747
00:33:33.079 --> 00:33:33.920
We didn't point it out.

748
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:36.519
We're like, we're just gonna run with this, and so

749
00:33:36.839 --> 00:33:38.839
I think we applied. And I remember at the time

750
00:33:38.920 --> 00:33:41.599
to our drummer Gab, I was saying to her, I

751
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:43.880
was like, are we just wasting our time applying for this?

752
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:47.680
Like we we don't fit that metal vibe? Oh, you

753
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:50.519
just are they just gonna like click delete before they

754
00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:53.039
even listen to our stuff and for ages, and she

755
00:33:53.160 --> 00:33:54.839
was like, maybe we should try Metal to the Masses

756
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:57.000
as you know that competition they do where you can

757
00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:59.359
go through heats and get into a final and the

758
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:01.559
winner gets the So we didn't do that because for

759
00:34:01.680 --> 00:34:03.599
years I was like, it's not worth it, We'll never

760
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:05.240
do it, We'll never get the votes from the metal

761
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:09.039
scene anyway. And then we just got we applied, and

762
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:11.880
then we just got a place direct, didn't we They

763
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:13.599
were just like, yeah, you're booked if you want to

764
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:14.519
play the mp stage.

765
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:15.440
We were like what.

766
00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:18.519
I was in the airport with my dad and we

767
00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:20.199
were just eating food in the airport and I was

768
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:21.440
just like, what the hell.

769
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:22.920
I saw it come up on my phone. I was like,

770
00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:23.760
what the hell?

771
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:25.679
And the first thing I did was like Messy's gaps

772
00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:27.079
and I was like, I'm really sorry.

773
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:31.159
You were right. But yeah, we didn't point it out

774
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:31.440
to them.

775
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:32.840
We were like, if I haven't made a mistake, it's

776
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:34.559
a happy mistake, and we'll just we'll just play our

777
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:35.320
heaviest stuff we have.

778
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:38.320
Literally, Well, that's a cool fucking story, but it's a

779
00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:42.119
testament to this festival because yeah, this festival is like

780
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:46.519
an old school philosophy, you know. It's not the commercialize

781
00:34:46.559 --> 00:34:49.960
that all the other festivals have become. You know, it's

782
00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:54.400
become something that is a family. We're a family here

783
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:58.960
and that's the best thing about Bloodstock. And even Vicky

784
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:02.360
Hunger for an arm so she's great. They asked her,

785
00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:05.920
are you planning on like growing it like Download? And

786
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.920
She's like, absolutely fucking not. Yeah, you know, and for that,

787
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:13.039
I will always promote this festival because.

788
00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:14.679
I like it the way it is.

789
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:16.639
It feels it it's more by the people for the

790
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:19.400
people rather than like how much money can we make?

791
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:23.119
And you keep the assholes out because like, there's not

792
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:27.840
I have never met one asshole at Bloodstock. I've met

793
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:30.719
them at Download, I've met at hell Fest, I've met

794
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:35.360
met the US festivals, you know, because when you start

795
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:39.039
inviting the masses, you get the assholes too.

796
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:41.880
Yeah, you know. I was at bringing in Bringing the

797
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:42.440
Horizon pit.

798
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:45.239
There was this dude who was like six foot seven, huge,

799
00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:47.719
and he just went in there to hurt and name people.

800
00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:49.880
We don't want people like that in the pit.

801
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:53.239
You hear about architects of Download this year, I think

802
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:53.480
I was.

803
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:56.079
I was at their show. What happened now, I'm trying

804
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:56.559
to remember.

805
00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:59.199
They had to stop the set, like, oh yeah, I

806
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:01.400
was there up punching people in the face.

807
00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:04.719
And I was there, and I wasn't in the pit,

808
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:07.519
so I wasn't one hundred percent sure what was going on,

809
00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:11.239
but I know that it was fucking brutal and yes,

810
00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:13.880
that stuff like several fucking dimes.

811
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:15.800
Well, our bass player was in the pit and he

812
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:17.800
actually got like full on punched in the back of

813
00:36:17.800 --> 00:36:20.599
the head, and like his girlfriend was saying, she was

814
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:22.840
sure he was like semi concussed.

815
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:23.360
The rest of the day.

816
00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:24.360
Oh my god.

817
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:26.639
I like Sam Carter just like stopped the show, and

818
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:29.000
I was like, guys, you can't be hurting each other

819
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:32.159
like this, like the whole metal mantras, someone falls back

820
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:33.840
down and you pick them up. Yeah, for each other

821
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:36.239
your community. Don't just go like trying it. And like

822
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:40.079
his girlfriend said, before the show started, she overheard someone saying,

823
00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:41.960
I can't wait to punch some people.

824
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:43.840
I need to do that to enjoy this.

825
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:44.280
See.

826
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:46.519
I hate fucking people like that because they don't get

827
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:49.159
with the pits all about it ain't about that exactly,

828
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:51.960
I'm the type of person who I'm small. There's big

829
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:54.039
dudes like that that want to throw their way around.

830
00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:56.920
I'll just come out, come around, get down low like

831
00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.119
Mike Tyson, come up with my elbow and then I'm

832
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:00.840
on the other side of pit before they know who

833
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:03.199
fucking hit them, and they fucking deserve it.

834
00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:03.480
Man.

835
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:06.880
It was cool at that Bring Me Pitt though, some

836
00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.199
dude bigger than him came in. He said, while you

837
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:13.360
pick on somebody your own side, and he removed him

838
00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:15.840
from the pit, and that dude would stay on the outskirts.

839
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:16.840
He was scared.

840
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:19.159
And that's the thing about those big fucking dudes when

841
00:37:19.159 --> 00:37:21.960
they face somebody in their own size, they're fucking scared.

842
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:24.840
They're bullys because they're so big and they think they

843
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:27.320
can do that. Then you have the other big dudes

844
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:30.639
that are the biggest pussy cats in the pit, and

845
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:33.920
they're the ones that you befriend because they're like totally cool.

846
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:37.719
They realize you're smaller, they realize their size, and they're not.

847
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:38.960
Going to be brutal with them.

848
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:43.679
I saw yesterday though, one thing like during the during

849
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:45.519
Heavy Saurus with the dinosaur pit.

850
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:46.559
I don't know if you were here.

851
00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:50.519
Yesterday we saw someone in the dinosaur coustume on the

852
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:51.000
drive head.

853
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:54.719
Oh there were a million of them yesterday because heavy Saurus.

854
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:59.440
They're dinosaurs and a dragon. There was one dinosaur that

855
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.519
was doing like the windmill shit, and like, no, dude.

856
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.320
There's kids in here. This is for kids.

857
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.280
It's not for that shit. Wait, go to the band

858
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:09.599
you want to see for that shit. Yeah, you know,

859
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:12.679
like I I think that shit's stupid. Somebody it's old

860
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.480
school masher that still does it. That windmill shit is

861
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:16.360
just stupid.

862
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:20.599
Okay, someone like pump shoulders as hard as you can. Yeah,

863
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.000
look after each other, Like why do you need to

864
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:26.719
be throwing fists and like putting feet in the air and.

865
00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:29.440
It's just stupid. Like, that's not what it's about. I

866
00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:31.960
go in the pit so I'm not kicking people's asses

867
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:33.039
in the outside world.

868
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:34.360
That's what it's about.

869
00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:36.960
You whant to go kick ass doing in the outside world,

870
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:37.559
not in the pit.

871
00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:38.519
You don't belong there.

872
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:39.480
Totally, totally.

873
00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:42.000
And one last thing I'm gonna talk about.

874
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.840
You were mentioning like the Green Days and then you

875
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:47.039
know sitting there thinking, oh good, I just said about

876
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:50.800
pomp punk before that. But I will say something that

877
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:54.719
the first time I saw Green Day Live, I changed

878
00:38:54.760 --> 00:38:58.920
my opinion because originally it's like, uh, it's fucking pop punk.

879
00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:03.079
But no, man, they are real punks, and they were

880
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:06.519
real punks. They just happened to get popular and one

881
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:09.760
of the best shows I ever saw, So props to them.

882
00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:13.480
And that now to something else you said about certain songs,

883
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:18.039
like you're saying wouldn't be appropriate a certain age. That's

884
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:22.000
what happened when after Shock Blink one a two was

885
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:26.840
a headliner, and I like Blink yeah, but everybody was

886
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:30.840
leaving because and they were all saying, like, when I

887
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:33.280
was fifteen, these lyrics meant something to me.

888
00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:36.360
They don't mean anything to me now. Oh yeah.

889
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:39.760
So because if you think about all their songs are

890
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:42.440
basically like if you were fifteen years old, you'd be

891
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:43.480
like fucking.

892
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:46.800
Yeah, like Chasing Goes and Yeah.

893
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:49.719
And all the fifteen year old stuff. But if you're

894
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:52.880
in your thirties, forties and up, yes, you know, it's

895
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:56.719
like yeah, like that doesn't really then you can connect

896
00:39:56.719 --> 00:39:56.880
to me.

897
00:39:56.920 --> 00:39:59.599
You can tap back into that teenage you you know.

898
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:03.519
That's a good point. That's a good point. I think

899
00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:06.840
that's what happens with my nostalgic bends. You know, you

900
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:10.599
tap into those memories, so you know that's cool. Or

901
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:14.239
like I think Ali going back to bring Me is

902
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:18.360
one of the most brilliant lyricists ever. Like I so

903
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:21.079
relate to a lot of his lyrics.

904
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:24.079
My favorite one isn't Demons.

905
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:26.400
That's what I was going to say, such a great

906
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:29.880
to me. That is my favorite lyric of all songs ever.

907
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:35.599
Is so fucking brilliant, Like it's so brilliant that it's

908
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:37.960
so funny that you said that, because that's what I

909
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:41.480
was gonna say that. I always say that lyric is

910
00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:46.840
just like oh my god, right, I mean, that's amazing.

911
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:50.840
So but you guys are fucking amazing and you're here

912
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:55.199
at fucking Bloodstock crazy now you're gonna be in love

913
00:40:55.559 --> 00:40:57.679
with the fact that your bloodstock and you're because you're

914
00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:03.400
part of the Bloodstock family. And what other final words

915
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:05.679
do you want to give the listeners about what you

916
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:10.519
got coming up about you and about being europe bloodstock.

917
00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:14.719
Yeah, like I said, we have an EP coming at

918
00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:17.199
some point, I don't know when.

919
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:18.920
Follow the social yeah.

920
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:23.000
Yes, yes, gotta follow socials and find out Yeah, but.

921
00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:25.320
No we're we're just so gaessed to be here. We're

922
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:28.679
really excited to play today, was it yeah?

923
00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:30.199
The stage?

924
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:30.639
Yeah?

925
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:33.400
Nice again? The good time today.

926
00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:35.280
Yeah, man, I'm just looking forward to seeing how the

927
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:37.280
crowd is, you know, just having a good time, having

928
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:39.880
some fun, you know, just just bringing some good vibes,

929
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:42.880
some good times, treat each other like family and have

930
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:43.360
a good.

931
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:46.519
What there you will find is the audience here. They're incredible.

932
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:49.719
Like yesterday you had heavy sores and that place was

933
00:41:49.840 --> 00:41:54.840
packed for this is like basically almost kid music, but

934
00:41:55.039 --> 00:41:58.599
was so fun. It's to bring kids into metal cool.

935
00:41:58.639 --> 00:42:02.239
And then the next band was Evil Scarecrow, who they

936
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:06.599
are the funniest fucking dudes ever. Like there were people,

937
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:09.880
there were dinosaurs, there were crabs in the pit, there

938
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:12.840
were spiders in the pit, you know, and they were

939
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:16.079
doing all these fun songs. And I interview them in

940
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:19.199
earlier in the day and they're like, man, we just

941
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.159
don't take ourselves seriously, Like we're just out there to

942
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:26.800
have fun. And that is the key, Like it's fucking music.

943
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:30.039
Don't take yourself so seriously that I think if you just.

944
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:32.000
Take it way too serious, then you just give yourself

945
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:33.960
all these expectations that you can't reach.

946
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:34.800
Exactly.

947
00:42:34.800 --> 00:42:36.199
It's like the mantro we've always had.

948
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:39.039
We started out as best friends in high school and

949
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:40.599
we just done it because we all have music and

950
00:42:40.639 --> 00:42:42.960
we're all best friends, and that's all it's ever been since.

951
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:44.280
That's the only way it should be.

952
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:46.159
Yeah, yeah, none of this like we need to look

953
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:48.760
a certain way, we need to do things the same way.

954
00:42:48.760 --> 00:42:52.159
It's just like we're just friends hanging out playing music.

955
00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:55.400
And if you're not best friends, you'll be like Perry

956
00:42:55.480 --> 00:43:01.679
Ferrell and punching out your band made on stage. Yeh see,

957
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:04.199
there you go. Well that you need to change your beer.

958
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:05.960
I did tell you this last night.

959
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:12.280
I had some Sam mcguil last night, proper he did, properly.

960
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:14.280
Just go like nod, I get rid of the bud.

961
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:15.360
We're having Sam Miguel.

962
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:18.599
And you know in America they do have the bud

963
00:43:18.599 --> 00:43:21.559
at everything. But I just think in Germany, Budweiser should

964
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:24.960
not be the major sponsor that is the only beer

965
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:26.480
everywhere like that.

966
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:28.840
Jermy is known for beer, right, that's just great.

967
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:33.159
That's like going to Belgium and then just eating like hershees.

968
00:43:33.360 --> 00:43:39.280
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Well and that's like being at

969
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:41.880
Bloodstock and you guys not being here.

970
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:44.199
Thank you so much. I appreciate that.

971
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.719
We're glad you're here, and I know you're going to

972
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:50.000
kick ass, and I think you're gonna be in shock

973
00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:52.280
at how many people are out there for your set

974
00:43:53.880 --> 00:43:57.320
and moving and like fucking loving it because that's the

975
00:43:57.360 --> 00:43:58.760
Bloodstock family.

976
00:43:58.519 --> 00:43:59.400
And we love that you're here.

977
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:01.639
Mate, Well, thank you. I love that.

978
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:04.039
I love that you remembered me because it means I

979
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:08.079
wasn't a fucking shitty press person with a boring interview,

980
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:11.039
you know, because there are some that I listened to

981
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:13.320
in the States. I'm like, oh it's the hours I'd

982
00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:18.079
slipped my throat right now. You know you got you

983
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:20.639
gotta make it fun. That's what this is about.

984
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:22.239
It's just aworth conversation.

985
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:26.159
Yeah, we're not in corporate America. This is music like

986
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:28.400
make it fun, but not.

987
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:30.119
Hold you get your band name?

988
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:34.000
Who are your biggest influences?

989
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:37.079
Oh my god, how do you say your name?

990
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:37.960
Yeah?

991
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:40.440
See that's why I band say it so I don't

992
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:41.039
fuck it up.

993
00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:42.880
I know your first radio man.

994
00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:48.079
Right, We've had it through our whole quot career. People

995
00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:50.360
fuck off our band name. Every time, so we have

996
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:53.360
to really enunciate it change.

997
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:55.760
And how do they fuck do that? Yours is not

998
00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:57.239
really that hard.

999
00:44:57.280 --> 00:44:59.199
We've had changed persona.

1000
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:03.639
We've had changed persona, You've had change person I'm just like,

1001
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:04.840
change persona.

1002
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:08.559
It's not that difficult. Yeah, And some of those.

1003
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:10.760
On stage, I introduce us onto the stage of the

1004
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:13.679
wrong name and you're like you know, and you're like

1005
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:16.119
you had you had one job, dude, Like, come on.

1006
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:21.000
That's why I if I'm doing like remote interviews, I

1007
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:24.880
will if I'm not sure, I'll go listen to how

1008
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:28.480
the band says it, like I'll look on Google, you know,

1009
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:31.519
because sometimes you could be an idiot and listen to

1010
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:34.960
another press person that's fucking it up, and then you

1011
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:35.679
fuck it up.

1012
00:45:35.760 --> 00:45:35.920
Yeah.

1013
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:38.960
But I also think bands say it better than me anyway,

1014
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:41.280
because a lot of times you'll get beds they'll be

1015
00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:47.679
like work, you know, and I'm like, that's a lot

1016
00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:49.000
cooler than me saying.

1017
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:53.400
It's all in the delivery exact changing person with.

1018
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:57.760
So maybe you should, like, you know, I have a

1019
00:45:57.760 --> 00:46:01.360
good idea. You should start playing out albums and each

1020
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:05.000
album name is the all the incorrect ways they.

1021
00:46:05.039 --> 00:46:08.760
Say great idea, right, that such a good or song

1022
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:11.239
about it, right, that.

1023
00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:12.039
Would be great album.

1024
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:15.440
It was just like a different variations like every single song.

1025
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:18.400
Yeah, that would be brilliant. I love that you guys

1026
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:19.840
do that for NEXS A.

1027
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:21.679
Chorus about you know, understanding us.

1028
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.840
Yeah, that would be can't like that would be so

1029
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:29.159
fucking brilliant. Well, you guys are brilliant and thanks for

1030
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:31.360
being here and thanks for being on the Adventures pipe

1031
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:32.239
Man once again.

1032
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:34.239
Thanks so much for hanging yeah, thanks for hanging out with.

1033
00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:41.760
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipelin. I'm

1034
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:44.920
w for c u I Radio.