David Reece of Bangalore Choir Reveals NEW Album Cover & Title

0:04 Hi, you have done to the censure Onulze Wow for you, young Hi and David Rison. I'm really excited to review for you the album title re cover for the brand new bengl Require album. It's Finnish people. I'm really still in the autum for the end of the year twenty twenty five. The title is Rapid Fire, our Succession on Target Part two and here's the album cover. Tw do you nick y'all? This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm very excited about our next guest because there's some killer new music coming out the end of this year. So let's welcome to the show. David Reese from Bangalore. I can't even speak today.

1:00 Bangalore quiet, Bengalore quiet. I know I'm like ton twisted today. That never happened to my brain. So greetings to you, and I just want to say, right off the bat, I have a question, right off the bat. You just revealed a new album cover. Is that the same model that was in the original on Target album? No to see it looks like it could be today's version of that. Well, that's a good time that similarities struck you.

1:42 But yep, the colors everything, you know, it all looked like. Yeah, I mean I I wanted to do on Target Park too, So I studied it top to bottom. I love it well. You and you were a guy keeping the name of the album a hush hush. And now we're out and it's coming out the end of year. So how is this is the part two? How would you say part two is different from part one or similar or both?

2:24 I don't know. I would say similar. And it came to me. I was in France last year doing a bunch of gigs and strangely enough, I live in Italy, right, and I played all over Europe in the world, and I've never played France. But in my show I played four or five songs from a Target every show, and the French were going crazy, right wow. And so I get in the car and I'm coming home and I'm like thinking about branding and the whole thing. David Reese is the soul of artist Dave does. Okay, you know what I mean, But branding, you know what? That's all right?

3:09 So I called the manager about halfway home and I'm like, I'm going to put together Bangalore Choir again. But I'm going to call it David Esus bangal or Choir, but I'm going to reach out to the some of the original guys. Sadly we've lost one who passed away. But Crickets, yeah, thanks Crickets. Curtis doesn't want to tour anymore, just not interested. Uh Ian the bass player, he and I did some stuff a few years ago. He was he was cool, but I just went, you know what, I'm not gonna take the dead, get out of the garbage sack, try to revive it. So you know, the branding thing. I want to compare it to like, let's say, Top of my Head Mike Tramp and the song good White Line.

3:57 You know that was it. It was just like, you know what, this has gone as far as I can take it. I need to bring back the band, the brand, and everybody was jumping up and down because it really had kicked lookings in the high gear. Things started happening quick. Probably didn't say much for me as a solo artist, but you know, the brand bro and then similar, I guess. I went back to on Target and I talked to Brave Word's records. I said, I'm going to do this, and they said Okay, if you're going to do Bangalore, we got to be on target. We got to get there.

4:37 Can we do that? It's a long time ago, man, I'll figure out my head s free. So I studied the record, even though I've been playing it live. But to go back and put your head back in that space, not so Andy. Susamil and I my weapon of mass production, my go to guitar player. He and I made an attempt three or four songs and it just wasn't clicking. And then which will soon be the second single with a video. It's called a Driver's Seat. When he sent me the rip of that I heard slipping away, I said, now we're getting it. So I recorded the vocal and then we did Bullet Train, which I'm sure you've heard, Yeah, and it just all started coming. The thing is that it was, you know, I wanted, you know, going back to the album, covering everything. I contacted Simon Zouke and I said, this is the first album and this is we've got to be similar. So we tried to tie the nostalgia and everything together, and I think we did.

5:42 I got to say, dude, this is I'm really proud of this record. Well, that's always good to hear, because you know what, when you've been a musician, as long as you have to have excitement about what you're doing after this many years, that means it's good. Well. I mean, and also people like you. I mean, the incredible amount of media that I've done and radio, it's tenfold what I was getting for the last ten years. I mean, it's just and I And that's an attribute to you know, brave work doing a really the outreach. I mean, they lectured me like a kid going school. Dave, your website sucks. You're not on top of the new game.

6:30 I'm an old dog, dude, I don't understand of this. So brand Ball really schooled me. And I've got to do to keep it the current, get it out there, the mass overreach, you know what I mean. So I learned a lot thinking that I was reaching the public. Not not even close, you know. So I got schooled. Right. It's never too late to learn right, right. I mean, you know, he even said it, guys, after forty you guys are clueless of what's really happening out there for people to get a visual or an audio of what's going on with you, because like a lot of bands. If you look at their page, you know they got a new album out, but they still have the album from three years ago on the banner, right, you know what I mean. And he's making really good points and I'm like, well, at least I'm not that negative or lame. But he says, you got a long way to go, kid, So he's good. I'm learning as I go.

7:32 Well, and you know, it's great that you can have somebody to coaching you like that so you can be relevant nowadays, because I think the resurgence of real musicianship is actually happening, but it takes veterans like you guys to bring that stuff back. Funny you should say that, I just said mister an European podcast about an hour ago. He said, the resurgence is there, but as you guys, you Oldzheimer's are the ones that really know how to deliver. But he did say he's seen a lot of young bands kind of coming along down that road playing what we kind of we're all part of.

8:15 There is some new bands like that are bringing back that like seventies. Vibe, Bring it, man, bring it. No doubt. I was just saying that before, like listen music nowadays, isn't like back in our day where like now it's so programmatic and like a formula I called an algebraic equation to make music, especially metal and rock. Okay, it's quantized, it's quantized on a grid, and there's not a bad note. I mean, you come from the school I do listen to an old except one album Plants not singing on key and a lot of those songs.

8:56 But he's delivering the goods. No, Page is not, you know, doing this neoclassical what are we going to? Blind made speed stuff? And he's playing some bad notes, but it's the song. It's a vivor you know, rival sons, BlackBerry Smoke. There's a few bands out there, dirty Honey that I'm going. Okay, man, come on, guys, you know, I mean BlackBerry has been around for a quarter century. But I saw him here in Italy not too long ago. And to see a thousand Italians sing along with a bunch of hicks from Georgia, right, that impressive. Yeah, it was. It was like kind of like seeing the new Tom Petty, this organic ground swell. Right.

9:38 There were people there that were like fifteen up to like seventy five eighty years old, you know. That is something that amazes me nowadays. Like I do radio coverage of festivals over the US, UK, Europe, and one of the things I noticed first of all is when I was a teenager, you weren't going to see sixty year olds playing metal, you know, But now the kids like, I'm like, how did these kids even know some of these bands? But then Europe in particular, so the first time I started going over to Europe to do festivals, I'm like, holy shit, I thought that band didn't even exist anymore, and they were just really playing in Europe all these years because they love it.

10:27 Bengalo or Choir. You know, when that naughty little band came out of Seattle and changed the world. I knew it was a temporary band aid on a new movement when we committed suicide to you know, the kind of rock we were doing in La and that at that time. But I had no idea when Warner Brothers dropped us that the grunge movement didn't touch Europe for maybe two years later, and that Bengalo or Choir were really big in the UK, Germany, especially Scandinavia. Even here we're really well known so that's why my songs from that record people know the words and they sing along with me since nineteen ninety two. And the thing about the European fan base, which is something I love. You can throw out a few stinker records, but if they love the band, they're going to follow you. Yeah, they're not going to throw the here today, go on later today mentality. Like you know fast food McDonald's music. In America, it's a loyalty and they have this tribal thing, this community with the festivals. That's amazing. I'm hoping that America comes because I really want to bring this over to the States, you know, in early April, and we're talking about it right now. Of course, I use in America a bunch of guys because it's retarded with THESS to bring guys from here over. Excuse me, but yeah, I know exactly

12:01 what you mean. I go to see you, like I went to see Metallica and there were kids that are like eight ten years old and people eighty years old. Right, it's crazy. You know, and it's fun. I thought of Metallica when you were talking about the American mentality and post of European because I was at Metallica's first show ever in LA and I remember say that again, no kidding, yeah, and Slayers first show ever awesome. But uh, I remember when the Black album came out and then the twenty five you know, core fans of Metallica were like, fuck them, they're posers, sellouts, blah blah blah blah blah. You know, and it goes along with what you were saying. It's like, uh, forget it. But at the end of the day, okay, still today this is one of my favorite bands because of that, you know feeling that you get the feeling that Europeans get when it comes to music and festivals.

13:13 Like I was just talking about this with Jimmy was my last interview, and we were talking about I just came back from a festival Bloodstock in the UK, and like, there were bands playing at ten thirty in the morning that nobody knew who they were, but they had the same size crowd as somebody like machine Head and ten thirty in the morning. You would never see that in the festivals I do in the States. No, and that's the magic. The first time I played Vaka, I remember the next morning, I'm an early bird, so I get up and walk through the war zone. There's like a mud hole, right, and there's people literally it looked like where they've been doing. Mortars been going off, and there were people down there in the mud and water with their best people standing around on the above the hole, kissing on them, singing in their language from other country. It was like Viking pirates, you know it.

14:13 That's great. I'm wandering the grounds and then you hear a fan playing and you look forward and there's ten thousand kids that haven't slept, their wing covered in mud, you know. And then all day long some of them fall out, they get too drunk, of course retired, and then they go lay down their tent in the camper. And then about seven it gets really crazy here they call the army of maniacs. And then by the time it was dark, it's it's a beautiful well. Yeah. I also I do health Fest, speaking of France, and that is like one of the most insane festivals ever. Like they say Vakin is the Grande, but I think Hellfest is taking that trophy. Now.

14:56 Oh yeah, it's a great festival. I mean, I they got volcanic here, they got help us. They got another one too, I'm doing Headbangers next year with Bangalore and I'm doing Volcanic Nice. So that that shows you that, like grass pop, last year you had. The cool thing is the stage is here, I'm looking at you. We finished, the crowd turns their back to you and they're looking at the stage on the other side, and there's fifty thousand maniacs for four straight days, maybe more night, I don't know, but anyway, we sy sort you had Steel Panther playing. They can't understand a word they're rambling about, but they loved the band. Then you had o Limp Biscuit, Then you had both Gang van Halen, then you had Slip Knot. I mean you had this big palette something for everybody. Yeah, and they were there. It was just it was the electorate. Man, the energy was electric.

15:54 I was there last year for grass pop because usually grass Pop and Heal Fast is the same weekend. I'm always doing hell fests, but last year I was like, oh, cool, they're on different weekends because I always wanted to check out grass pop And yeah, you're so right, And you know, it amazes me how into it people are. Like I'll tell you what that olymp biscuit pit was probably one of the most brutal pits I've been in, and I've been in a lot of brutal pits. He just played here. My wife's a huge fan and my step son and her the slip up shells when they Papa roach and they go cuku. My wife is a music fanatic, you know, and she's right there. I mean, it's like, be careful, honey, you know, don't wear anything sharp and watch out for you don't put on your goggles. Yeah, I mean, you know. I mean, but I'm not knocking my country. I'm an American, Red white and blue. But the fact is that there is a bigger range for artists in the European.

17:05 Goun Well, you know, you drive around like I've road tripped Europe a few times, you know, and you turn on the radio and it's like you you're in back to the future, going back to the eighties. Angel You don't have one corporate controlled radio station that's got the big Master disc playing the same song every hour and thirty minutes for the advertisers. You've got Virgin Radio here in Milan. You've got Germany's got a few, Scandinavia's got a plethora stations. But what's really cool about America is even though they're Internet station, there's an underground And as I said earlier, I have not had the airplay that I'm getting now in at least ten years.

17:58 Wow. I mean I just got told the nineties in Baltimore in the top ten. Still it came out the nineteenth of July. I love that. Yeah, man, I mean it's like something's going on. I don't know what it is, but it's rock and roll and that's the beauty of it. Wow. Get back to the basis. I think too, Like the Danny Wimmer festivals. He's tried to pattern off of Europe and he's bringing a lot of new bands. Like there's this one band it's so funny, it's so old school punk, silly Goose. Okay, they showed up at a Danny Wimmer festival and we're playing in the parking lot, you know, the total old school that's invadeable, and Danny was sitting out there watching them, and instead of like giving them a hard time and bust them, they played on the real stage the next day. And now they play a bunch of his festivals.

18:58 Okay, that we lost that you know, for about I don't know since ninety five. Yeah, it seemed like that kind of got lost, you know. I mean when I started out, you know, we would do the five set shows, incessantly playing three hundred and fifty days a year, play the top covers in rock, try to write some songs, and swear to god, I'd never do this again. I'd know myself if I have to go back to Rockford or oh play Wisconsin, but I would put my balls off to do one more grinder like that and a stinky vand because you know, we don't know how good we happened. I mean, remember those days when you could walk out of a club, walk literally down the street at after your set, watch a band play and it's packed seven days a.

19:53 Week, no doubt. I pretty much lived at the Sunset Strip, you know. I mean I saw Motley Cruce first gig at the Whiskey on Valentine's Day with a band called a La Carte, a three piece band opening for them, and we saw this marquee of these crazy looking dudes from the VP and where crews are on my band, I go look at those Francisco see him. We walked in and I went, oh my god, this is this is this is earth changing something. Something's happening, because they had their street following, and I was sitting with Tommy in the hotel them doing nefarious things around the theater painter, and I said, you know, I'm telling you guy did the whiskey blah blah blah and the Valentine's gig with a bank called Ala Cart And he like leaves the bed and tackles me onto my bed, and I'm like, what said, yeah, man, I explained, you know, Mickey liked himself on fire the black and white Motley Crue balloons in the garbage shack.

20:51 And he's like, oh, I got and I I knew, I just knew. And I saw Mickey brat. You know, I saw David Lee Rock walk into a club and basically take the place over. Yeah, who's who's his stickhead? But you know the thing about him, you believed it, even though he thought he was a douchebag. I believe that that, you know. Well. One of my funniest stories is the eighty three US Festival, Van Helen's headlining Metal Day and they're starting to playing, talking about loving he's not singing and Eddie's looking over at him. There's three hundred thousand people and no shame.

21:33 He just goes over to Mike. I fucking forgot the words, and the whole place erupted like it was the best thing it ever had except one dude that heckled him, and he goes, I'm gonna fuck your girlfriend. Yeah, and that is a rock star in my opinion right there. Yeah, he just had this man he still does in my friend you know, I mean, we all get older, but he there's a story about him. It's just classic. I forget what band it was before they got van Healen got sanged. I think it was quite right. He walks in with assless jeans, no shirt, you know, suspenders.

22:15 Barney's grabs the microphone from I think to Bro and screams it stops the band and said, my name is fucking David b Roth. I'm going to be the biggest rock and rolf i'veing star on the planet. And people were booing it. Like I said. When I saw him sutting around, people are like, that's a dick. But I believed it, you know, right, he just had this Jim Dandy on steroids is what I always. Well it's funny too. You mentioned Crew. Okay, so am I. I'm from Jersey and my dad moved me out to California in nineteen eighty. What a time to move to La. Culture shock, man, Oh, total culture shock. But the first club show I ever went to my life was that the Roxy and it was Motley Crue before they had the album. Wasn't their first show, but it was before they had the album. Yeah, and you brought me back when you were talking about lighting on fire because they were lighting everything on fire, try and bring Satan into the Roxy. And I walked out of there. I was like, I think I was like thirteen at the time or forteen Island. I'm like, I'm never going to a real concert again. That was the greatest thing I ever saw.

23:31 And then now you know when I am in La and I play to Rainbow and I'm like, man, how did I get in here when I was thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years old? Oh that's right. I was walking over from the Roxy with Motley Crue. That's how I got in there. Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean I remember the great days of Mario and Michael and everybody. You know. Marigo's sitting at the bun door. I mean the debauchery. We were fricking pirates, man, I mean it was you know, I had my wedding party there upstairs, and you remember the rooster. The rooster's next at the top, right. All kinds of bad things happened in that little room. But I mean I was like, hey, Tony, Mike, I'm getting married.

24:13 Can I have my wedding party here? And they're like, whatever you want, let's go down. I had the hole upstairs, and of course everybody from hell was there, free alcohol, right, So yeah, man, I missed that. I think it's inside you still, Otherwise you wouldn't be doing this. It's in me. It's always, It's always. Yeah that magic times dude. Oh my god. I saw Zeppelin and I remember the crowd literally started burning wooden chairs on the floor in Saint Paul, Minnesota. Wow. And they were dancing around this fire like going crazy, and plant went and twenty thousand people went Island. If you don't stop burning and going crazy, the band are leaving and everybody's like, okay, dad again, and he stopped the crowd. But I'm sitting in the audience going, wow, that's Robert planted, and that's Jimmy Page and Bomb and that's John Paul. I see with Ted NuGen and Heart like three four times a year in the Midwest for five bucks right now.

25:32 Oh yeah, I don't even know how kids go to shows today. Like it was like two bucks for a ticket and five bucks for a T shirt. And you were good. And I scraped ship up. I had to scrape that ship up. That was like a fortune. Yeah, it was, Mom. Can you drop me off at the auditorium? So and So's player, Well, it's the only for him, Honey. It's not safe, right, But I'll be fine, Mom. I'll just find a bunch of knuckleheads like me and we'll just hang out into the gates. Oll right, Well, check out this story. Okay, So you came into this part of the story a little later, a few years later, but so and you'll get what I mean when I tell you. So, I we were going to see Ozzy on New Year's Eve, and I told my dad I was sleeping at my bro's house.

26:19 He told his parents he was sleeping at my house. And we went and saw Ozzie wit Randy on New Year's Eve, Okay, Which that's epic. And then so we get home and I lived in Lake Lindero in Agura Hill, so like my backyard went straight down to the lake. So we were hanging down by the lake so my dad wouldn't see us. And my next door neighbor comes out, okay, and she goes, oh, boys, she sees us in the Ozzy stuff. Were you at the Aussie show Last Name? And we're like, oh fuck, we're busted man, And we were like yeah, wait right here, I'm getting my husband and we're like, oh fuck. And the husband invites us up to the house, into his studio. In his house that was wall thewall cassette tapes. Turned out he was Ozzie's promoter, so he gave us a bunch of swag.

27:12 But here's the part that will blow your mind. He hands me this cassette. He says, this band's not in the United States anymore. I'm yeah, they're gonna be here in like six months and they're gonna be huge. And I remember I listened to the first song on that cassette and I was like, oh my god. That was the first except album Small World right how Wild? Next I was in Milwaukee and Restless Wild was on bloodbed Fine and we would sit around the band house doing bong kicks and this guy walked him with that record and put.

28:03 It still gives me. Yeah, Street the first speed metal band, who spawned Slayer, who spawned Metallica. I don't care what anybody says, except spawned the speed metal movement. I'll verify that with you. I'll verify that because one of my best friends is Dan Spit and oh yeah, and he told me straight out. All of them, Anthrax, all the big four Anthracks, Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer, they all were like, that was the first thrash metal song ever. When I was in accept we went to Monsters of Rock.

28:45 Anthrax was playing, David b Rock and Mayden was headlining this without makeup. We were in the tempt area in the back and a big storm picking of court Germany right, never had a nice sunny, cold day. And Spit was there like a little kid looking at Wolf Hoffman going heuring the die man, you know, and being the studians going dude, you're Wolf Hopman, you know what I mean? And he's just send me, you are the reason we're playing what we do and he's like, well, thank you very much, you know, very gentleman. I appreciate timing, But dude, you don't realize the impact that that band had on the metal scene in America and world.

29:29 What there was nothing that song. You want to touch on, that story, We can touch on that, you know. I mean, we can tell any stories you want to tell. It's your world. I'm just living. One second. The weirdest thing about it was I was in La, back to our little stomping ground, got to get my my ic T excuse me, and and before I got an accept I couldn't get arrested. Bro, everybody's a waiter is going to be an actor, and everybody's a lead singer, you know, standing on the corner of some set, passing out flyers. I couldn't get arrested. I'm a big guy, you know, I'm not the little girly but Brett Michael guy, you know, lipsick, I'm not into that.

30:21 Yeah. No, couldn't get arrested. Man. But I had a really dear friend named Lucy Forbes who had a little thing called Rock Congress, and her old vision was rock placement agency. You know, I'm going to get guys in big bands or corn bands. Didn't have a clue what she was doing, but she had a hearted goal. She was a sixties biker chick, you know, knew all the you know, the doors and all that informatic. So I'm homeless, sleeping on a hardwood floor in Santa Monica, and I had reported a bunch of demos with Mitch Perry, the guitarist who played which thanker later and played with Tallis and she and all this guy couldn't get anybody who listens to it good songs, you know. But I was twenty three maybe and living in her house. One day I just I just said, you know what, I got to get out of here because the la can eat you a lot. Yeah, I'm working in factories, I'm you know, starving. I'm doing anything I can, kind of book gigs. One day I just said, you know what to talk it, I'm out.

31:27 And she looked at me, she said, where are you going? I said, my mom and dad moved to Colorado. I'm going to go on the ground and I'm going to go live there. I'm done, So I leave that to set. Miraculously, like a week later, Peter Dirk's, the producer of the Scorpions, has got scorpions business and he's banging Lucy on the side. Goes to visit her and says, hey, I got an issue. We get this English guy and then the band, except it ain't work the Saints Robert. Do you know anybody that would work? I need a singer yesterday. She goes check this guy out and hands him Mike thes un. He puts it in. He goes, that's the guy wo because he can hear voices, he's a producer, he knows what he's looking for. I'm at the time wholist. I'm just a rock singer guy. And she didn't know where I was. So they go on. She goes, I think he went to Colorado, to Colorado Springs. I'm going to try to find him. He goes, find that dude. So they went. She went through the phone book. I guess director says there's something. There's only so many. Jack Reese's in Colorado Springs called my dad and I'm living up on the mountain painting houses, you know, and he says, yeah, I need to find Dave and he's okay, I'll tell him to call. They give out my phone number to Wolf and one night there's a blizzard happening outside. In the phone ranging and it's wolfowk wow, Hello, I speak with David new Spee. This is both Palpman. The bis

32:59 up said yeah, I'm fucking Mickey Mouse, fuck you, and I hung up. So he calls right back. I think we have a bad dinection, but I'm telling you it's you know, and he starts give me the spiel and I'm like, yeah, I'm on a plane, let's go. So next thing I know, I'm flying the dusel Door and I'm auditioning for except Wow, and this didn't happen. I mean the German way. Guys. You know, it's very particulous. She replaced a guy like Udo. You know, there's a lot of anxiety. So I mean literally the next day, Peter wakes me up at im I got jet leg I maybe slept two hours. Let's go, I said, where are we going? He goes to the studio and I'm like, cool, I get to meet the scorp me. I'll tell you know, I'm a kid, and he just looks at me like, oh whatever. Because they're finishing Savage Amusement. I walk in, there's Rudolph and Dieter and I go hey man, I'm like, I'm He looked at me like I was from Mars.

34:00 I think they're having an argument. So Peter took me directly into a demo studio in the base, put on a two instroy Tay and this first song was turned the wheel around, had the title, puts the fifty eight in front of my face with a board sitting there and goes sing something. Nice. I mean it's like And so we spent day after day after day writing lyrics and me singing on thisfty eight and what the band would do would coming at night separately and listen to what I've done, Yeah, and Peter. The final audition was a live gime in Cologne, Germany's biggest metal band, performing one night only. That was my final audition. Was therefter about three months before they said yes or come maybe longer. And of course they invite all the heavy weights, Gruce Dickinson, all these guys because at the time, Bruce is working for the fencing team in Bon, Germany. He's in the captain's uniform. Shows up.

35:06 I'm good to see well, I'm like, what's he doing here? I wanted to get his opinion. The fuck I'm going home and you look out the window across from the restaurant and there's a line of people standing in the march rain because they know who it is, right, And I was terrified. Did the gig BLAKELM And I fully expected to be sent home. The next day, I hear them all talking in the guests out, well, I better go face the music. It's been a cool trip, and they reach out their hands said, welcome to it's up. Wow. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, And look, you just never know what's going to happen in life, you know, in it beautiful, Oh I love it, like see even for me. So I left LA when all, you know, when it became really bad with the hair metal, Like originally when mattawkan player went up to Bay Area, me and my bro used to like hitchhike up there to go to shows up there because they left us. They left us with all the glam shit, you know, and all the girl boys, and you know, the scene was not the same. So then like I went back to Jersey to go to college, and I ended up leaving the whole sand Like It's funny because I knew everybody and it was like I just had this idea, like I went, I was playing guitar, I was singing, and I was like, yeah, I'm not

36:38 selling my soul for this shit. Like I'm not because I sat back stage, you know, and saw what record labels did to these bands, okay, and I'm like, yeah, I'm not selling out for that. So I left and I ended up in the financial business. And I was pretty big in the financial business. And the Wolf of Wall Street, I knowew him personally, it was my competition, you know, and and uh yeah he was a douchebag by the way. Uh but but that movie is so spot on except for where you're throwing the little people at the dartboard. Everything else is true. And to me it was weird because in that business it was the same type of energy and debauchery as being in metal.

37:26 The difference was is I traded in my leather jack and battle vest for a normany suit, you know, but the same bullshit, you know, the same. Drugs, lies, money, money corrupt everything, Money corrupted music, It corrupts totally. I mean, it's I mean, who doesn't want and I think that what it what? You know, I don't know about you, but saying earlier rock and roll committed suicide. I mean, what normal guy you can look at a cream magazine to go, dude's got five nickd Chicks spring whip cream on his dick. You know what guy living in Portland or Seattle with a single mom and a fucking single wife. Tim relate to that, right.

38:10 You know, we fucking cut our own head off despite our face. So then you got these bands, you know, delivering something that's heavy with a message to that generation. You know, we all got shot in the head and here comes this new like you said, I mean, they don't want to be corrupted. But then again, Durban and all these bands who were like anti corporations, they went corporate. Mm hm, you know, and what happened there? You know, all the people that believed in them from the street dates. Hey, you guys sold out like a black album for you Yeah, so totally. Uh, it's a cyclical thing. But like you said, the Jersey in New York and Wall Street thing is stuck exchange. I can't imagine that I'd be dead. I mean, I thought my habits were bath from what people have told me. They said, it's like fucking pirateships sailing down Thyme Square. Oh yeah, you guys were you guys were killing it man one.

39:13 And the thing that you had more than you had in the metal community was money. So it created more debauchery because you had too much money to blow. Like listen, I was twenty one years old making like fifty grand a month, you know, and I'll tell you what I spent every time of it and nothing. I'm going a load too, I mean a load, and I had nothing to one time there was some money coming in with a guy like you, and I probably came by you, but for me, you get a two hundred grand. You're not thinking about the irs. You're not thinking about You're thinking about I want that thing, that toy right now, and I buy it. I want to buy it. Yeah. And then at the end of the year, I'm thirty first and the next year you got this Nope, you old blah blah blah. Wait a minute, they taxes.

40:11 Right, yeah, you're like and then the people above you in the biz, you know, they told you you have to do this, Like I remember when I first started in the business, you know, and like what a five hundred dollars suit and the boss was like, yeah, that's not going to cut it. Here we're going out right now, and I don't care if you have the money or not. You're going and buying an Armani suit and that vehicle you're driving. No, you need to get either a BMW or Mercedes period, because you had to look the part, you know, type of thing you got to represent. Man, you're working for our firm. You got all them apart. You're representing us, and where are the big dogs? We don't need some billbilly driving it Volvo that's twelve years old, right right.

40:58 You're driving like a fifty thousand or more vehicle, but you have no furniture in your apartment. The same for me, dude. I'm a rock and roll start one time going back and got leave and accept living at Stevie Nix's house. Not a pot to piss him. I mean, not a diamond in my pocket. But I'm now famous because of accept good and bad. Where I couldn't get arrested in LA before that, I walked into all the clubs and like, and I'm all of a sudden hopvin with you know what it's like. And all these super rich rock and roll people who I didn't I don't think they were ever poor and I'm literally pennyless, living in a studio apartment, regaining my career with Bengalo or choir. But you know I had the full Mountain team like you did. I mean, you're you're not dressing like that, You're not doing this. I mean how Kauflin is managing me. I'm they've got white sneak heart. Henley Nick's Irving Azoff signed me to his new label, Giant Fun Intended. You know, Warner Brothers, Moe Austin's son. The only reason he got Irving got the deal. This is how you are on Wall Street, right, who's shaking the butter and who's bread? And he said, give my son Kenny a job and I'll give you the two hundred mil to start a label. Okay, Kenny's a fuck up

42:30 who grew up with Moe Austin from Warner Brothers in w A. He's never had a job in his life. He's got a job. He's in charge of my A and R. I'm running around with these maniacs. You know. It was insane, you know, I mean, they treated us good. They put us on a salary. They you know, with job the top studios. We went through the whole thing. You know, the big shows, the big tour plans, and then. Yeah, you know Timon and here we are twenty twenty five, new album coming out. I love it, and the album cover. I would buy it, just like in the old days you bought from album covers.

43:13 Okay, I'm going to tell that when you air this, I want Simon zut. Here's a band called Goo Got. Some of the guys are Russians, some of the guys are Dutch, some of the guys are Italians. And I got to say they wanted me to sing on their records, and COVID destroyed us all. You know what. I used to do a lot of records to eat eat my family. But I got to say that some of the sweetest human beings I've ever met in my life, and what they're going through. Those Russian guys, they can't even talk like you and me. They're completely controlled. Yeah, so they go, they are routed around. I can't really say much because I don't want to get in trouble. But I was talking to Simon, the bass player, and I've seen that he had done their album covers and I gave them the reference. And when he hears his name and their name.

44:02 Good. You should see those guys. They get a boner the size of New Jersey when they hear me saying good things about it because they're good. They're good at what they do. Check it out, goot and Simon Zouts is his name. He's an Italian who did the artwork. I gave him the idea and he gave me a few roughs. But he's gonna love that. He said that, because I think he. Did totally, because it not only captures today, but it gives you that nostalgic of the original album. That's why I said, right from the beginning of is that the same model? You know? Just years later? Does it kind of look that way into the same colors? And you know how it was in La Listen. He's good to this little record store in the valley, me and my friends to get our music, and there was a historic record store clerk there that every time we walked in and he's like, oh, you gotta check this band out, and we would buy it just because he said so, because the album cover looked cool.

45:01 That was Brian Slagel, you know, And I told him like a few years ago, I'm like, dude, that was the most brilliant marketing plan ever. He was like I was just a record store clerk, you know, but he had us all like we'd go in there all the time, and every band that I ever saw in LA, every album that I ever bought, was because we would go in there and he would say here and they were all his bands, which was what was I thought was brilliant about it. You know, yeah, I love him. He's uh, he's he's gonna be around for past Hill outlived Keith Ridgards. I mean, he's been doing it forever and God bless you know what I mean.

45:46 Oh yeah, you know, my hat's off to him because Metal Blade is still around, still big, and like you have never thought that back in the day, you know, would you ever imagine that Metal Blade would still will be around in twenty twenty five, you know, like you would. It's It's amazing. It's a testament to the profit. I mean, you've got a good a good lump between his shoulders. You know, he knows what he's doing. What works like shoving it in your face. You got to buy this record, look at that cover, this band rules. I'll take it. You know, you go home. But what you're gonna turn on, but when you listen, you go it is great. He's right, Oh my god, right, I mean yeah, I wish we had people like.

46:31 That now, no doubt, no doubt him. And we go to we have one guy in hold of and it's called Media Marks in Germany, and they pretty much sacrifice all of the CDs, uh in the stores, the chain of stores. But not him. I mean he put me in an in store. He's a fan, he loves rock and roll. He knows everybody does. These giant posters when you're there, and I remember like two hundred kids won that Autocrats like the old days, you know, yeah, the old record stores. Like you said, tour bus pulls up. You know, there's a crowd of kids waiting out there. Record day.

47:18 Yeah, I missed the good old days. Camping out to get your tickets. I remember I saw Black Sabbath with de O. I camped out for my tickets and uh, this dude, I was like first in line. This dude comes up to me, Hey, if you give me my ticket, I'll smoke you out at the show. That's all he had to say. Like I didn't want any money, right, They're like, sure you know, and then he had this like nowie wowie at the show, like he he meant it because he was sitting right next to me. And I remember when Dio just first started talking over to Mike when they first came on, I thought Dio was God because I was so high off of this stuff.

47:59 He smoked me when I was like, holy ship us. It's god spelled. It's an Italian literally it means God deal. So and you are correct, So I mean, uh yeah, that's the cosmic experience. And I remember my first concert was Peter Frampton Comes Alive Tour. Jay Diles was the second. Wow, Peter Wolf take my ass what the front man? I mean? And Ruby Starr and Great Ghosts from Black Oakcarpon So was the first back. And I remember being in the Saint Paul Minnesota Civic Center and the lights are still on and you can see the curtain and Frisbees were flying across and beach ball and joints are coming. When there's like this bluish white haze over the audience, right and I'm here, I'm home. What is this? What is this?

49:01 My mom dropped me off for right, lights go out in this roar. Remember that and the curtain drops and there's Ruby in a miniskirt strutting around, and then Jay Giles comes out and do their live record they did for twenty years NonStop, and then Peter Frampton comes out with this you know, oh baby, I love your way. But it was a hit. And I remember just leaving that place a different person. Yeah, you know, I it was mind chan. Then I saw Alice there, Errol Smith at bazillion times. I mean I'd be right there with Tyler spitting in my face because in those days, like you said, five bucks wasn't easy to come back. You know, I didn't buy a pack of cigarettes or something. I could, you know, I could go see meet my friends and see Nugent and all those guys four or five times a year totally, And it's it's a different animal now.

50:02 I mean, working on shows, it's a what do they say to me? The other day? Guys said, it's not that the bands are so competitive they're abut to destroy you. It's that they're only thinking of themselves. Yeah, good point. It's kind of the same thing. He goes. They're not out there shit talking you, but they're only thinking about themselves. There used to be a hang of a camaraderie with rock and old bands. Yeah, I'm and open with us. Come out and tour with us. You know we're not going to charge you five hundred bucks a day and make you sleep in the van, so you're paying our road crew with your buy on. You know what bands would say, Oh I fucking love your band man, come out and open for us thirty days. Everybody, quit your day job. We're leaving. You know, get your strip with girlfriends and throwing a kiddy so we can rent a vand you know, I'm get a U haul. We're going out.

50:58 You know it's different now, you know it is? It is? I miss those days. It was like there's so many stories we could tell, we could tell for days and days, Like, I don't think it's have the same stories nowadays. Even when it comes to backstage, you know, like I'm I do all these festivals and friends of mine are like, hey, can you get me backstage? I'm like, dude, it ain't what you think it is, Okay, there's nothing going on there. Photo the photo of like what they think backstage is naked chicks and drugs and what it's really like a bunch of people starting at their cell phone waiting for the stage call.

51:38 Right, Yeah, not like the good old days when I would go to Metallica shows and clean the first one and everybody would go back to their house afterwards and party all night long. I picked my friends up out of the bushes outside and wherever they ended up passing out. I don't even want to git well, we won't even go mean, but those were the days. Clark Street, that's to the whiskey. Is that what it was? Clark Street? Yeah, walk up the hill. It was madness. People falling out of windows, people no front door in an apartment, all writers, all weekenders. I mean, I was at that party. I was at that party where Vince killed Razzle.

52:24 Like that was that's ironic. Maybe you know some of the same people I do. We probably do. It's funny. There's some people have mad I'm like, I don't remember them, but you know what they say, if you were at the Sunset Strip in the eighties and you remember it, you weren't really there. Well, the guy that I know was with them. The call was made to get more alcohol and blow, and they were going to a guy's house that I know that had to blow and he didn't show up. But the story that I was told was he could hear the sirens and thought, uh oh, what something's happened. He didn't bother calling him going out, But I knew a guy, knew a guy that was waiting for them after they got more alcohol, and sadly what happened happening. Yeah, but I know they were down in the beach area right there in the South Park party that had been going on for a few days. That's what happened.

53:20 Yeah. You can only you know, swing the sword at the dragon so long before you do something stupid. And oh, you know, like because they were all so high all the time. Like what I loved about being a teenager then is I would go to those parties and I'd get the overflow of what Montley Crew couldn't handle. As far as women, I'm like some kid laid hot chicks because they didn't get laid by Motley. Crue I got. I went out with their dope dealer on the Theater Pane tour with this stupid idea in my head. I'll bring some of my demos and get them to listen. I'm going to get a record, But I'm with one of their multiple drug dealers, and they had an entourage of them, trust me, oh, following the band around, flying around picking up drugs in different cities and bringing them to the band. And really, I'm just sitting in a room with these maniacts so out of it, and I'd always ask myself, how do they play tomorrow? Yeah? Right, and it's like and they remember they had armed guards at the door Vince because it had just happened before that, so they would open the door and Vince would be passed out and make it on the floor with a bottle of tequila. And he had figured out how to get the hotel staff to get him drugs and alcohol and looked it through the window on a sheet and they were like, how is he doing this? You know, an attict wuld go to the end of the earth to figure out a way to get eye. But it was it was debauchery that I've never seen on that

54:53 scale that you know. They had a car of lookalikes leave the venues right and the fans and chicks would chase that car and then another limo would drive from under the arena with the real can to the other hotel in town. And I'd be like this is jeeves that the kids caught onto that too. Yeah, yeah, you follow that car. We'll follow this car. We'll call you if we got the right band. And the idea that Mustaine got kicked out of Alcoholic for being an alcoholic really always blew my mind to this day. There's always a sacrificial lamb. Look at Steven at right, I mean exactly, there's always that guy. I mean, I'm a recovery drunk. I got seven years this September.

55:39 Good for you. I've made a bunch of dumb things. I've done some dumb shit, you know, fighting with bands. That's where I was fired from Mixed Up. I slapped Peter in the face. I got drunk. I thought he deserved it, you know, wrong choice action, but you know, to fire, you know, especially when you get like we go back to that brotherhood thing. There's no democracy. Yeah, you know, Adler is probably the nicest guy I've ever met. In the band. They throw him out, you know, and I've seen that in Bloomer Times. Oh yeah, ah, you're disposable. I'm I'm the reason people are going. And part of the part of that's true, right, the in fact or you know, it takes over our guy's mind that. I'll give you an example of Guns n' Roses. My guitar player Andy on this record and writer with me. Hudo was the second act on the first Guns and Roses to Theaters and Sweet Child of Mind. It not broke out. They were going to dump the band. Deafen was it's not working, but Andy said, every night there were just I couldn't take my eyes off Axl. You know it's so easy that it opened with and it was just something about him, blah blah blah blah. And he said, every night all the bands are being in the dressing room borrowing cigarettes and they had no money, drinking together party. He said.

57:08 The day that Sweet Child of Mind hit, he goes, I'll never forget it. I'm walking down the hall backstage and Axel had the two tour managers against the wall stream and I want my own bus, I want this, I want that, I want this, or I'm going home. Wow, And he stopped talking to the to Udo's band. He stopped talking to Alita, and Slash watched into dressing and he said, what happened? Man? What I don't know? Man? This is mine He's lost overnight he sold like ten million records. Yeah, and they were the MTD Darling, they were the new thing. But he said, literally in a day, he was like, I'm leaving the band if I don't get this, I don't get that. No no, no, no, no no no, I'm done. And the couple of weeks before that actual with mom and cigarettes off.

57:57 My friends and drinks. It was so it was well. Now here you are years later, clean with great new music coming out at the end of the month, thanking the end of the year. Here and everybody's got to check it out, get the new album and support you because you're a badass and the music is better. Great, great conversation. I really loved it. Well, I love. Yeah, it's your really cool, great great, great interview. I like this relaxed formata exactly. We come from the same cloth, right, So Braveboards Records. Reese is on Facebook, He's on Instagram, so you can find me. I love to talk to the fans. Thank you for everything. That's all I can say.

58:49 Thank you for giving us great talent and music all these years and continuing to do so here in twenty twenty five, and thanks for being on the adventures of pipe man. I'm still riding the rhino with the pipe man. Let's go back to the strip. Let's go back in time. We should do a movie, right. I know, right, imagine back to the Sunset Strip. I mean with with the real stuff that happened, not some kids trying to make it. It went down. Then you can graduate from Wall Street. Well, all your friends are still in Frisco, you know, hanging out in the rainy streets, trying to get in at okay, the Paradise loungeer wherever they were.

59:31 Playing only I don't even remember. And you're in Wall Street being suited, you know, and fitted for a five thousand dollars money. You know exactly, here's the piece, here's you new seven to fifty. But next year and you got up grade. Okay, come on, exactly exactly save debauchery, just different animal. People don't even realize there's not there's a fine line between the metal heads and the suits. All right, well you rock on, my brother, and look forward to it again, and anything you need you let me know. We know what we should do. I want to make this clear. The album is sixteen songs we did. Act one is eight songs. Act two his songs. I had about twenty four to twenty five songs, and Giles Lavery and I whittled it down with brand Ball down to the sixteen tracks. What I'd like to do maybe when the album's out, if you're interested, we can do a chat about act one. Yeah, absolutely, maybe, like because you know how it is, you know what you all have promoted for a record and everybody says, buy the album, blah blah blah. The album comes out crickets for six weeks prior, everybody's buzzing, you know, Let's talk about it after it's out for a month or so.

1:00:49 Let's do it, you know, and be honest. I really like this or I don't like that. Let's talk about this. I'm down for it. Let's make it happen. Tell Michael to make it happen. I'm on it, brother, all right. Rill. Then until then, have a good night or a good day wherever you are. I'll go to bed and we will see each other once again. You got it, brother. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Patement. I'm w for CUI Radio.