Aug. 18, 2026
Dawn Vally’s Journey: Naming Origins, Metal Brotherhood, and Surviving Brutal Canadian Festivals
In this episode, Pipeman sits down with Zachary from the Canadian metal band Dawn Vally to discuss the band’s unique sound, their roots in the Toronto music scene, and the stories behind their new EP. The conversation delves into festival experiences, the songwriting process, misconceptions about heavy music, and the influence of artists like Bring Me the Horizon. The episode is packed with laughs, genuine industry insights, and both personal and professional anecdotes from life as a working metal band in Canada.Main Topics Covered
- Band Name Origins and Spelling
- Creative choices for spelling “Dawn Vally” to stand out online and nod to Toronto’s Don Valley Parkway (00:50)
- Festival Culture and Experiences
- Insights into Loud as Hell, Wacken Metal Battle, Alternative Waves Music Fest, and differences between metal and country crowds (04:17)
- Songwriting and Musical Influences
- Personal betrayal as lyrical inspiration (03:02)
- Writing around working song titles – “Kneecapper” (12:28)
- Bring Me the Horizon Fan Discussion
- Favorite lyrics and the evolution of the band’s sound (07:40)
- Canadian Music Scene & Brutality
- The impact of harsh Canadian winters and the camaraderie within the metal scene (14:22)
- Tour Life Stories
- Performances in harsh weather, like dust storms at festivals (16:02)
- Performance Tips & Vocal Care
- Discovering and using the UK’s Vocal Zone for voice recovery after festival dust (16:47)
- Live Shows vs. Studio Albums
- The transformative experience of seeing a band live (19:49)
- Band Naming in the Digital Era
- The deliberate misspelling of "Vally" for online searchability and funny encounters with venues incorrectly spelling the band’s name (01:24)
- Zachary recounts chalking out the extra "E" himself outside venues (02:23)
- Misconceptions About Metal Musicians
- Both speakers laugh about metal’s hardcore image and stress the warmth and kindness of the community, sharing anecdotes of friendships and mutual respect (03:38, 04:06)
- Festival Lessons & Advice
- Pipeman advises bands to learn from feedback at competitions like Wacken Metal Battle, sharing numerous examples of bands who initially lost but later succeeded by heeding advice (05:05)
- Zachary details how feedback from the Wacken tryouts improved their subsequent performances (05:13)
- Lyrical Themes & Band Dynamics
- Zachary shares how Dawn Vally’s lyrics often reflect personal betrayal and emotional growth, and highlights the band’s collaborative dynamic—especially the role of bassist Jeff in songwriting (12:29)
- Live Show Impact
- Zachary and Pipeman share how certain bands only won them over after experiencing them live, not just via their recordings (20:06)
- "We purposely spell it wrong so that we’re easier to find on the internet." — Zachary (00:52)
- "Most of the most brutal bands I know are the nicest teddy bears I’ve ever met." — Pipeman (03:38)
- "Every single time, the guy’s just got like at least one or two lines every album where it’s just like, wow." — Zachary on Bring Me the Horizon’s lyrics (08:17)
- "If you like what you hear, come see it live. We guarantee you won’t walk away upset." — Zachary (19:45)
- Dawn Vally Online
- Instagram with Beacons link: Merch store, Spotify, Facebook, and more (19:21)
- Merch available via Big Cartel, ships worldwide at buyer’s cost
- Vocal Zone (Vocal lozenge for singers; UK-origin, highly recommended)
- Festivals Discussed
- Loud as Hell Open Air (Drumheller, Alberta)
- Wacken (Germany), Bloodstock, and others
- Check out their latest EP for a taste of all their sound has to offer (18:42)
- Follow on social media and support with merch purchases (19:21)
- See them live for the full experience—shows guaranteed to win over audiences (19:45)
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Hi, you live done to censure?
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Wow for you your.
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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
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Man W four c Y Radio, and I'm here with
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our next guest, also from our friendly neighbors to the north.
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So let's welcome to the show down Valley. How are you, Zachary?
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Oh, I'm not too bad. How are you doing?
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I'm doing great?
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So so I do have a question right off the bat,
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just to be funny, Okay, I never talk about band names.
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Yeah in Canada, is that how you guys spell Valley?
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No, it's not so we actually purposely spell it wrong.
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It's easier to find on the internet.
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Yeah, I figured, you know.
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Yeah, that's why I'd never really bring up band names
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except stuff like that, because I find, man, oh my god,
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you guys have such a hard time coming up with
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band names nowadays because everything's pretty much taken. So you
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gotta do stuff like that or make the letter upside
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down or something.
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So our band name is actually in Toronto one of
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the main expressways.
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It's called the Don Valley Parkway.
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Nice okay, and it's what its spelled.
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D O N and then Valley the traditional way.
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So we put Dawn to kind of make it more dark,
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and then took away the E from Valley to make
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it easier to find on the internet.
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Nice.
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Not only that, but I'll bet you you find people
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that either a don't know how to spell valley anyway,
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or B they want, you know, in the day and
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age we are, they want to troll you and say,
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you know, you're spelling valley rule.
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We get that all the time, you know what.
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I think that's good man, Fuck it, Like, let them
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do that anyway that they want to get notice and
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give you.
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You know, we either got.
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We either get told that we spelled it wrong or
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they spell it the traditional way on the posters.
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Oh I could see that too.
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Yeah.
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We always we're always going to pot like venues and
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it's like they got the chalkboard in front of our name.
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We're like, don't erase.
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The e, should just like cross out the E.
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I did that once actually in where was it? I
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think it was in Gwelph, and I just like grabbed
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the chalk and xed out the E.
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I love it. That's so killer.
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Uh So, I gotta tell you something, you know. I
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listen to your music, man, and it's fucking brutal as hell,
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and that's that's a compliment.
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That's what we're going for and we want that. We
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want to give the heavy.
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Right, no doubt, And like I always like to clear
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the air when it comes to stuff like that because
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people listen to that and they think, oh, you're evil,
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Honestly, if you just talk to people, a.
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Lot of our music is like we write it about
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just like personal experiences when it comes to like aspects
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of like, uh, this album, for instance, every song is
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written about a different time in my life where I
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was betrayed by somebody I trusted.
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Ah well, yeah, so it's a lot like a lot
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of albums about that.
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Yeah, right, because with with the way the world is today,
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you get a lot of material with if you're writing like.
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That, no doubt.
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But that's why I bring that up, Like, if you
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sit and talk to artists instead of just assuming from
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their music, you'll realize that they're just performing and that
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doesn't mean like usually most of the most brutal bands
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I know are the nicest teddy bears I've ever met.
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Honestly, one of the nicest guys I've ever met in
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the industry is a guy that I go way back with.
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Actually it's the old drummer of Suffocation, Eric Murratti, one
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of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. And it's like
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the guy plays absolutely brutal death battle and off the
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off stage, the guy's like one of the funniest guys ever.
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And I find that most of death metal people are
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like the nicest guys. Yeah, and they're the ones that
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everybody's the most scared of.
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Yeah, right, which makes me laugh.
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Even recently when we played Loudest Hell Open Air and
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I got to hang out with U summoning the litch
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a bit, and same thing, like absolutely brutal music and
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the funniest guys off stage is always joking and carrying.
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On, no doubt, no doubt.
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And so tell me about that festival, because I go
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on tour and I do coverage of music festivals all
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over the US, UK, Europe. I just got back from
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Vaking and blood Struck and Incarceration.
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We actually did the Metal Battle for Vakan this year
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and we were a provincial finalist.
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Oh well, yeah, let me give you some advice because
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I interview a lot of the metal to the masses
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and the Valking Battle band and when they give you advice,
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take it. Oh yeah, Almost every band I interviewed at
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those two festivals didn't make it. The first year they
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took the advice came back and won.
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So honestly, we we took it as like a learning
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experience for us on the provincial final.
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The advice they gave us, we kind.
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Of put it into action right away and use that
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at loud as Hell and we got an amazing response
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at that one and Alternative Waves Music Fest nice.
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So how as loud as Hell is my point, I
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was getting that one I haven't done yet.
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It's amazing, Like Jeff Borrie out there is the guy
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that runs it and he's from Drumheller and amazing guy
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doing amazing things with the Canadian music scene.
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Like it's pro In my opinion, it's probably.
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The biggest metal festival going in Canada right now outside
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of like maybe Armstrong, but it's like right up there,
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like a top two festival. And it's just such a
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sense of community out there in Alberta. With wit set up,
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there's camping, there's just NonStop music and it almost doesn't
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even feel like you're playing a show. It just feels
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like you're hanging out with a bunch of friends, but
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it's like fifteen hundred friends that.
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Are there, right right right. I love that.
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That's so cool, and that's what it's about. That's what
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metal's about. That's what music's about. We can escape the
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insanity of the world and just yeah.
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The metal crowd. It's I always laugh because like the
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metal crowd is. I swear I see more like anger
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and fistfights in a country show than I do a
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metal one.
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Is so funny that you said that, because I've been
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talking about this lately. So several years ago, I had
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two festivals I had to cover in one weekend. Yeah,
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obviously I couldn't be at both. So there was this
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girl that worked for me. She was a country girl,
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and I'm like, you gotta cover this festival, and she
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was scared because she had She told me, I've never
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even been to a rock concert in my life.
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And yeah, well, let me dispel the myths for you.
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Okay, you go to these country shows with a bunch
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of rednecks drink in Jack Daniel's game into fistfight.
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So literally, you go to.
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A metal show and you'll meet the nicest people you
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ever met. Were one big family. You'll probably make a
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lot of new friends. You'll see that the marsh it
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ain't about hurting people. Yeah, up, like exactly. And she
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comes back after the weekend and she goes, oh my god,
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you were so right.
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I have all these new friends.
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Everybody was so nice, and I ta bag some dude,
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and now he's my boyfriend. And I have this new
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favorite band. I don't know if you know who. They
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are there called Bring Me the Horizon.
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I'm like, oh god, that's literally my favorite vocalist of
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all time. I've actually got funny enough. I've gotta me
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and my girlfriend we have a son on the way,
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and we're actually naming him after all these sykes.
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Nice nice, and you know, I gotta tell you he's one.
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I think he's one of the best lyricists ever.
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In fact, incredible lyricist.
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Right.
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My favorite lyric of all time of every band I've
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ever listened to is I can't Drown my Demons They
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know how to Swim. Yeah, that is the fucking most
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brilliant shit ever.
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Man.
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Yeah, it's every time they put it in music. It's
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like I sit there and give it a hard listen.
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It's like every single time. The guy's just got like
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at least one or two lines every album where it's
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just like wow.
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Right, Like he comes up with these lines, like like even.
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In the one that stood out for me a lot
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was on their second record, Suicide Season, and it was
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where what is it, Uh, we're all going to hell?
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We may as well go out in style. Death is
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a promise and your life is a fucking lie.
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Right, That's it was just like how do you call it?
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I even as a lyricist myself, I sit there and
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look at it. I'm just like, that's like a whole
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different level of its own compared to everybody else, Like
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you've got everybody else and then you've got all these
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sights at the top.
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No doubt about it. And like some of his songs
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I so relate to, like can you feel my Heart?
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Forget that one line that most of that I relate
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to one million percent.
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Yeah, And and Throne is like my theme song.
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Like people that know me and I playing them in
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the chorus, they're like, oh, yeah, that's totally you because.
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They want a big one out of that era. That
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stands out to me is Sleepwalking.
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Yeah, Yeah, that's a good one.
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That one's always stood out to me hard.
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It's just like the emotion that he conveys and like
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his his vocal delivery is just like it conveys so
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much emotion that's perfect for the kind of lyrics that he.
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Writes, no doubt about it. And what a live show
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they do.
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Yeah, it's like, uh, I saw it bring me to
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their eyes on a couple of months ago and incredible show.
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Yeah, that's how I got unreal.
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That's how I got to know them actually because I
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saw them at festival in the States, first time I
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ever saw them years ago.
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Yeah, and I never even heard their.
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Music for whatever reason, and I was I instantly they
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went shot to my top five favorite bands, like from
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that life Oh.
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Usually They're really the band that made me fall like
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because I used to be really into the older kind
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of metal style like Lamb of God, Children of Boat
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and stuff like that.
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When I was in high school.
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ended up showing me their Count Your Blessings album and
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I think it was the song Black and Blue that
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was the first song I ever heard by them, and
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Like, this is insane.
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And there was about a year later when they actually
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ended up putting out Suicide Season, it was like, this
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is the greatest band in the world.
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Right, and they're so versatile.
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Like a lot of people give Ali's shit for changing
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it up, and I say, bravo, you know, like it's
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not the same shit all the time. And he said
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in an interview, like why I want to write this
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same song over and over again.
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It's funny that.
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You say that, though, because he kind of silenced the
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critics this year when they put out that Dehumanized song.
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Yeah, and everybody's like, I told you, he still.
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Has it exactly man like.
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So that's the way I look at it too, is like, Okay,
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you take a little break for a while because you're
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you're bored with the same stuff. Yeah, then it recharges
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you to come back with something brutal like that, you know.
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