Aug. 10, 2026
Discovering Aethoria: From First Gigs to Bloodstock Magic with Pipeman
In this episode, Pipeman sits down with Misha (vocals) and Lee (drums) from the band Aethoria during the Bloodstock festival. The conversation explores Aethoria’s rapid rise as a band, experiences playing at Bloodstock, the sense of community at metal festivals, the challenges facing artists in the age of streaming and AI, and the importance of real, human-created music. The discussion also covers memories of discovering legendary bands before they became famous and addresses the evolving landscape of music consumption.Main Topics Covered
- Aethoria’s Bloodstock Journey
- From first-ever gig at Bloodstock’s VIP stage to playing the bigger EMP stage (00:54).
- Reflections on feeling “at home” at the festival.
- Bloodstock’s Unique Atmosphere
- Sense of family, acceptance, and escape from the real world (01:43, 02:16).
- No bad vibes and a safe space for metal fans and musicians.
- Discovery and Support of Emerging Bands
- Value of smaller stages in discovering future legendary acts like Slipknot, Mudvayne, and In This Moment (05:33).
- Stories of attending iconic shows before bands made it big.
- The Role of Authenticity in Music
- Importance of human flaws and stories in music (08:10).
- Criticism and concern about AI-generated songs saturating streaming platforms.
- Artist Challenges in the Streaming Era
- Issues with royalties, licensing, and the need to support artists (09:14, 09:18).
- Shifts in music consumption: from albums and artwork to quick skipping and TikTok snippets (10:23, 12:05).
- Aethoria’s Upcoming Album and Merch
- Announcement of debut album and international shipping for merch (13:03, 13:17).
- Aethoria’s Serendipitous Start:
- Misha recounts playing their first gig at Bloodstock unexpectedly when another band dropped out (01:01).
- “It’s like coming home, but now we get to play on a bigger stage.” – Misha (01:14)
- Festival Community Feels:
- Misha and Lee praise the welcoming, non-judgmental environment (01:43, 03:20).
- Pipeman shares about mosh pits with dinosaurs and a feeling of belonging (03:31).
- Discovering Future Icons:
- Pipeman describes seeing Slipknot, Mudvayne, and In This Moment on small stages before their rise (05:33).
- Nostalgia for the days when album artwork determined what you’d buy or go see live (10:23).
- Concerns About AI and Streaming:
- Alarm at the removal of millions of AI songs from Spotify (07:08).
- Artists urge listeners to value real human creativity and imperfections in music (08:16).
- Shifts in Audience Attention:
- The challenge for new bands to capture attention in a world of short attention spans and algorithm-driven content (12:05).
- “Everyone’s just, just, you know, whatever. Whatever goes. You can be yourself. There’s no bad vibes.” – Misha (01:58)
- “All the outsiders are inside here, and there are no outsiders.” – Pipeman (04:05)
- “It feels like a really safe place to be and enjoy your music. There’s not many festivals where I feel like you can just truly be yourself.” – Lee (03:20)
- “I want humans making real music, playing their instruments… and a story as well. Like, exactly, something real.” – Pipeman & Misha (08:03–08:10)
- “A lot of my favorite songs, if I only listened to the first 10 seconds, I would never like that band or that song.” – Pipeman (11:26)
- Aethoria Online Presence:
- Find Aethoria under “Aethoria Band” on:
- TikTok
- Spotify
- Debut album available for pre-order and international shipping (13:03)
- Find Aethoria under “Aethoria Band” on:
- For official merchandise and more, visit Aethoria’s social profiles or streaming links.
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And I'm here with Hi.
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I'm Misha on vocals, I'm Lee on drums, and we
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are in a band called Authoria.
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Nice.
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You're a bloodstar man. Oh hell yeah, oh my god?
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How did you get here?
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We don't know? Is the question?
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Is the answer to that. We're like still in shock.
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We are quite a young.
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Band, well not young ourselves, but young in the.
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Turns you only you only look like twenty four and
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twenty five. We'll pay sorry she's twenty four.
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Yeah.
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We were like literally our first ever gig was here
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one year ago. Today we played at the VIP stage.
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But that was literally just a fluke. The band that
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were supposed to be here had to cancel. So a
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friend was like, come and come and play and use
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it as your first ever show in Athoria. So we
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it's like coming home. But now we get to play
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on you know the e MP stage. Nice, Yeah, a
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bigger stage. That's a packed out tent.
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Oh yeah, Like it's unbelievable how many people show up
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for that stage?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, definitely, yeah, Blackstock has been amazing to us, and yeah,
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we have such a good time here as well, don't we.
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Yeah, what's your favorite part about Bloodstock besides playing?
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I would say I like the people. You're never going
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to have any bad energy here. I always heard about
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it before I got here, Like some friends were always like,
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there's nothing quite like it, you know, having done other festivals,
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they were like, once you go, you'll just know that
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there's no bad energy. Everyone's just just, you know, whatever
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whatever goes.
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You can be yourself. You can there's no bad vibes.
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Everyone everyone's got you, even if you go on your own.
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So I quite like that, Like it's like anything goes,
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you can just do whatever. People are super friendly. In
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a life that's quite hard, sometimes it's nice to just
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have a lot of good vibes around you.
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No doubt, especially with all the bullshit going on around
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the world. Like what an escape this is. I haven't
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even seen news. The whole world is probably blowing up
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out there and we're just here having fun at Bloodstock.
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Yeah, we have no signals, so we don't even know.
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We could literally be the last people on earth and
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we wouldn't even know about it.
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So that's the way it should be anyway.
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I'll take that over the obsession over the news any
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day of the week.
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Yeah, it is like you say, an escape and I
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love that totally.
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And you know it's funny you said what you did
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because I do festivals all over the US, UK, Europe.
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I love, love, love love this festival because we're like
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a family here number one. So like when I got here,
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I was like, oh good, I'm home with my family
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at Bloodstock and their thing is is in several years
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doing this to your point, I have yet to find
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an asshole.
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enjoy your music. There's not many festivals I feel like
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you can just truly be yourself. Yeah, it feels like
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one of them plays so you just you just let
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go of yourself.
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that was the most fun ever I've been in a
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lot of pits. That was the best pit I've ever
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been in ever.
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but I kind of like, don't worry about what I
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look like or feel like. Over here I don't honestly,
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on stage it's a travesty.
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I can't dance either, so don't feel bad, okay, But
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in the pit I can be whoever exactly, Yeah, and
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that's to be in the metal. At Bloodstock, you can
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be whoever. All the outsiders are inside here and there
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are no outsours.
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in again, you know, even like no matter the lineup,
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people are like I'm there.
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I've missed a lot of sets that I wanted to
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see because I'm here doing this. Like at in the morning,
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I mark off all the ones I want to go to, yep,
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and then at the end of the day I unmark
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all the ones I still didn't go to. But I
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love being here with my people and the atmosphere and
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the vibe. Yes, and bands like you and like you know,
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that's what this is all about, you know. And I
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would rather see the bands on the e MP stage
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or the Sophie Lancaster stage than on the Ryan James
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Steo stage, because they're the ones that really fought hard
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to get here and they're going to give it.
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They're all to us.
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We do.
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We just watched a rest and me over on the
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EMP and they were playing like their life depended on it.
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Another one I missed and then I interviewed before they.
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But they were great. They were great.
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They were really you know, high energy and just given
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it at all. And I think, you know, you've not
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got that comfortability when you were a new band. You've
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got to prove yourself, give everything that you've got Anna,
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and a lot of the time that's where it's at,
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isn't it. You know, these smaller stages you can be.
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Surprised, Well, this is the where you make that impression. Yeah,
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But I'll go back to nineteen ninety nine when I
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was at Ozfest and I saw three bands on the
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third stage, which is about the size of the MP stage.
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I don't know if you ever heard of them. They're
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called slip Knot mud Vein and in this moment, so
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that's the point. This is where you find new music. Wow,
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and you never know who's going to be who.
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You don't know who's going to rise exactly that.
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And to know that you then you saw them at
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the beginning of their discovery is like magic, isn't it.
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So you saw slipknot literally as they just burst on
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the scene.
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Right, oh yeah, I'll go and mud Van and in
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this moment all three of them were nobody.
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Then yeah, I'll go a step.
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Further as you Even though I'm only twenty five, I
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was at Slayer and Metallica's first show ever.
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Sit like, they didn't even burst on the scene.
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They drizzled into a into a club in la.
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Insane insign How did you do that? You're only twenty five,
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You're such a baby.
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I know. We'll like time travel.
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Very clever.
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I use it. I use the AI the time travel.
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At least it's good for something.
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Then yeah, right, exactly, not good for much except listen,
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even back then, we were like, yeahans are going to
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take over. We're scared about AI back then, and for
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good reason exactly.
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I mean, for artists particularly, we are absolutely petrified.
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You know.
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I think they took down some like seventy five million
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songs this week on Spotify AI songs.
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Thank god they did.
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Yeah yeah, because like I would be terrible if they
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allowed it on there. I'm surprised they did because listen,
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they're already screwing over ours not paying them anyway now
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they don't have to pay anybody if they have that
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on there, so maybe I'll give them some kudos for
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taking it off.
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We don't want any more encouragement of encouraging anything AI.
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We want to give you know, his art at the
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end of the day. And I don't think enough people
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realize that. I see comments of people where there's songs
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and videos completely made by AI and thousands of people
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commenting how much they enjoy it and they love it.
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try and look at.
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You know, the ally.
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it's better. Yeah, I want human making real music, playing
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their instruments, using their vocal instruments and story exactly, something real,
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and not only that, but making mistakes It's okay, especially
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in a live show.
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Imperfections, you know that that's beautiful too.
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I tell my engineer and the interviews, I'm like, don't
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take out all my ums and us because that's how
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I would normally be speaking, So keep it real. I
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like it exactly, and I think music should be the
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same way. And I think people need to stand up
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and start, you know, standing up for artists. You know
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who knew Lars would be right in the napster days,
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even I was talking to somebody and they said something like, yeah,
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you're right, Like if everybody took their music off of
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some of these platforms that don't pay, they wouldn't survive.
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up there, Listen, I'm not the size of Spotify, and
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I pay licensing and I pay more royalties than Spotify does.
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Problem, it is.
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are like, you know, people that own streaming stations and
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they don't license, they don't pay royalties, And I say,
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first of all, what you're doing is illegals. And I'm like,
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why would you do that to the artists And they're like, well,
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they should just be happy I'm playing their music. I'm like,
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do you work for free?
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It's kind of tragic in a way because it's you know,
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people just don't really care anymore. They think like, well,
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people who are into music now, they're happy to just
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skip a song, so quickly and like they don't actually
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enjoy the folks that who listened to a song start
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to finish. Oh yeah, it's like that's disappearing.
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headphones on. You had to pay your hard earned money,
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so you made sure too, even if you didn't like
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it at first, you listened to it over and over
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shop seeing artwork alone, and that being enough to make
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you go, I'll give these guys it. Listen.
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That's how I bought albums, you know, because you couldn't
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hear the music exactly, and most of the music I
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liked didn't play on the radio, so it was like,
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oh they look cool.
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Oh this album looks cool.
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That's how I went to a live show too. Whooa,
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look they look cool. My first club show ever I
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was thirteen, was Motley Crue before they had an album,
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before they were glam they were horror punk and their
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flyers were plastered all over LA. I'm like, oh, that
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looks cool, and I went so I'm at the Roxy.
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They were trying to light everything on fire to bring
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Satan in and that was it.
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I was sold.
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I'm like, I'm not going to a real concert ever. Again,
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that's the experience that people are missing today. And to
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your point, a few of my favorite songs, if I
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only listened to first ten seconds, I would never like
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that band, or the song like You Take Battery by Metallica,
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like who Today would stay on long enough to hear
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the real song?
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Yeah, that's it. I thing we've spoken about quite a
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lot as well when we're writing our music is are
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we getting into the music quick enough to even get
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anyone's attention? Sort things?
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Which sucks?
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Yeah, unfortunately that's something that we have to think about.
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How was it's all? It just takes the fun out.
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