Oct. 5, 2026
Doobie Talks Early Inspirations, Food Truths, Metal Legends at Aftershock 2026
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RSS Feed In this episode of The Adventures of the Pipeman on W4CY Radio, Pipeman sits down with Doobie at Aftershock 2026 for an energetic and unfiltered conversation. They delve into music origins, the influence of family and formative live shows, the evolution of metal, health and food issues, and the importance of authenticity in music. The episode is filled with personal stories, nostalgia for the metal scene of the '80s, and candid takes on both the music industry and modern life.Main Topics Covered
- How Doobie Chose His Name
- Family Influence in Music
- Childhood Experiences at Live Shows
- The Impact and Evolution of Iconic Bands (KISS, Drowning Pool, Metallica, Slayer, etc.)
- Touring Life and the Value of Travel
- Health, American Food, and Differences Abroad
- Authenticity and Change in the Modern Metal Scene
- Nostalgic Stories from the ‘80s Metal Scene
- Reflections on Concerts, Legendary Musicians, and the "Big Four"
- Doobie's Latest Album and Upcoming Projects
- Doobie shares how his name was chosen in the studio with his brother, evolving from "E-Dub" and "E-Doobie" to just "Doobie," a name that stuck after his brother's suggestion 00:53.
- Doobie credits his mom, who toured as a merch girl with various bands, for inspiring his musical journey. She exposed him to rock and metal musicians from an early age, making the dream tangible 01:29.
- Doobie’s first concert was KISS, and his mom kept confetti from the show as a keepsake 02:57.
- Frequent exposure to bands like Drowning Pool and Sevendust, via his mom’s industry connections, made lasting impressions 03:18.
- Doobie emphasizes the freedom and perspective gained from global travel as a musician, contrasting it with a "regular" life 05:01.
- Discussion about the differences between experiencing things in person versus through media, and how traveling internationally broadens perspectives 05:42.
- The episode explores issues with processed food in the US, differences in ingredients and health impacts compared to Europe, and how this ties into larger industry issues and personal health stories (including reversing diabetes through diet) 06:13.
- Both agree that some contemporary metal music lacks experimentation, with bands too often using formulas rather than forging unique sounds 10:08.
- Discussion on the removal of arts from American schools and society’s trend toward less color and vibrancy 09:03.
- Pipeman recalls winning his first KISS album and reminisces about pivotal firsts: seeing early Mötley Crüe and being present at Slayer’s and Metallica’s first shows 14:59.
- Highlights the friendships and inside stories with key thrash bands, the rise of Metallica, and legendary musicians like Lemmy and Randy Rhoads 13:54.
- The emotional resonance of seeing Ozzy with Randy Rhoads, and later meeting Zakk Wylde 13:54.
- Discussion of the lasting impact of the Big Four and how Metallica has stayed at the top for decades 16:09.
- Doobie mentions his latest album, Give 'Em Hell Until You Get to Heaven, and teases new music currently in the works 17:47.
- “I had a different artist name… let’s just say it wasn’t as cool.”
- “If you’re not having fun doing your live show, I don’t know what you’re gonna have fun in in this business, because the rest of it kind of sucks.”
- “You get to… see things in person, not just like on a phone or a textbook or whatever the case may be.”
- “That’s why we need music. Yeah, because music is the ultimate medicine.”
- “Arts out of school, like, what is up with that? Like, we’re the only country that takes arts out of school.”
- “Back in the day, you’d have these teal cars and bright yellow, red cars, and now they’re all Tesla black Cybertrucks and shit.”
- “Metal was experimental, man… That you did something different, it was new, it wasn’t the same thing.”
- “He (Zakk Wylde) was gonna lose his shit when I said that to him… in a good way.”
- “Give ‘Em Hell Until You Get to Heaven… new music will be on the way soon.”
- Doobie’s Latest Album:
Give 'Em Hell Until You Get to Heaven (new music coming soon) - Events Mentioned:
- Louder Than Life
- Aftershock Festival
- Bands Mentioned:
- KISS, Doobie Brothers, Drowning Pool, Sevendust, Soil, Metallica, Slayer, Exodus, Dark Angel, Misfits, Venom, Exploited, Mötley Crüe, Pantera, Black Label Society, Zack Sabbath, Megadeth, Anthrax, Motörhead (Lemmy)
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Hey, you're listening to The Adventure. And I'm Pudlin.
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On W4CY Radio.
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This is the Pipe Man here on The Adventure's Pipe
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Man W4CY Radio. And I'm here with... Doobie! Yes! So...
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Is it Scooby-Doo? Is it the Doobie Brothers? Never mind,
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I don't even fucking want to know. I'm just joking
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because I never ask that band name shit, okay? I
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don't even fucking give a fuck and it doesn't matter.
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What I do want to know is what was that
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one moment in time that you knew Doobie was what
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you had to do?
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I mean, I guess we were just sitting in the
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studio one day, me and my brother. And I had
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a different artist name. Let's just say it wasn't as cool.
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And so we found it. I had another nickname or whatever.
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I was like, well, people call me E-Doobie because my
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first name is Eric. And my last name is William.
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So E-Dub was the little nickname. And he's like, ah,
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that sucks.
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I was like, well, some people call me E-Doobie. He's like, nah,
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just Doobie. Like, okay, that works.
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That's pretty cool. So what was it that prompted you
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to do music and to make music your life? My mom.
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My mom was always, like, touring with bands and stuff.
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You know, Merch Girl, probably something else. So she used
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to always just have me around all the rock and
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metal guys as a kid, and it was easy to
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sell the dream from that.
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Just watching them guys kill it, it was just like, yep,
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I want to do that.
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I was on stage for Sublime the other day, It
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was so cool because they have this inflatable dog and
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there was a kid sitting right in between the dog's
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legs watching the show. I'm like, that's pretty fucking cool.
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Their show was killer at Louder, too.
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They had a nice set.
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Yeah, yeah. They had here, I don't remember if they
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did at Louder, but they had like a skateboard ramp,
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so some dude was skateboarding on the stage.
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Yeah, and they had the dog on stage. And the dog. Yeah.
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They were throwing the ball at the dog and stuff.
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That's what I thought was cool. I was like, okay,
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they're just chilling.
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Exactly, just having a good time. That's what it's about, right, man?
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Yes, sir.
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If you're not having a good time, how are we
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having a good time?
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Right.
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You know, that's what it's all about. Like, there's some
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people maybe take themselves a little too seriously, which is
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fine on an album. But on a live show?
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Yeah, have fun.
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Just have a good time. Because, listen, if you're not
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having fun doing your live show... I don't know what
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you're going to have fun in in this business because
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the rest of it kind of sucks.
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Yeah.
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You know, that's the bonus, getting to do the live show,
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you know? So, what was the first concert you were at?
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That I ever seen?
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Yeah.
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My first, very first concert was Kiss.
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Nice.
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And for the longest, my mom had kept, like, confetti
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from the end of the show or whatever.
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Yeah.
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And, like.
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this little baggie or whatever i don't even know if
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she still has it but i was so young i
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barely remember it but um that was the first concert
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the most memorable one though um my mom used to
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tour with uh drowning pool seven dust so seeing those
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guys a handful of times was just like it i
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was like yeah.
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I was just hanging with Dry and Pool yesterday.
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Ryan's such a great guy.
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Ryan and CJ, they are like the coolest dudes.
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Ryan and my mom are good friends. Because he was
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with Soil. Yeah, exactly.
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I was always at their shows. My mom actually has
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Soil tatted on her.
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Really?
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Yeah, because her and Ryan were really good friends and stuff.
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All them guys, Adam, all of them.
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Oh, yeah. I love them. I love talking to them
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every time because we just have a good time.
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Yeah. And I'm glad Ryan's singing for Johnny Poole.
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It just made sense.
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He does a great job.
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He's a killer singer.
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No doubt. And so, like, to your kiss point, first
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album I ever owned in my life, I won at
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the Jersey Shore in Seaside Heights.
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Oh, shit.
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A Carney game. I looked up and they had this
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album with these four dudes in makeup. And I'm like,
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that's what I want. It was the first Kiss album
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when it first came out.
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That's badass.
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I won it. I had a carny game. And that's
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why I'm here today. If it weren't for that album.
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I think Kiss started a lot for a lot of artists,
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especially in this genre.
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Yeah.
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I mean, pioneers.
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100%. I don't think there's many people in the business
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now that wouldn't look to them as one of their,
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you know, idols. Of course. You know? A hundred percent.
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What's your favorite part about being a musician?
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Traveling the world.
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You get to, you know, if I wasn't doing this,
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I'd probably just be at home working a regular job.
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Yeah.
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Regular, you know, caught up in the glitch of the matrix,
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you know.
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No doubt.
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I like being able to travel the world, see things
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in person, not just, like, on a phone or a
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textbook or whatever the case may be.
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It's different in person. I travel the world, and, like,
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there's times I've gone to places and I'm like, yeah,
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that's not what the pictures were showing.
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Yeah.
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You know, and that could go either way, better or worse. Right.
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You know, and I think what's cool about musicians getting
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to do that is the fact that I think everybody
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should travel to other countries and other cultures and They
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might get a better understanding than what they see on
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social media or the TV. Oh, yeah.
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Especially, like, I mean, the food thing, right? Like, in America,
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I don't think.
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Americans care about Americans because it's like they're trying to
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poison you with everything.
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Then you go overseas and it's, like, illegal to do
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all the things that we're doing.
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We were just talking about that, man. Like, so another
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media person here on Friends, what she was talking about,
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she ate something, the pizza that we have in here yesterday, and, like, oh,
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the gluten doesn't agree with me. I'm like, then you
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need to go to Italy because the only reason the
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gluten's a problem here is the GMO and the poison
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they put in it. You can eat the same shit
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in Europe, and it doesn't bother you.
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It doesn't bother you. Also, like, the Coca-Cola.
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Like, I would have 12 of them, and we'd go
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walk three miles, and I wouldn't feel groggy at all.
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And I'm like, if this was, you know, in the States,
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one Coca-Cola out in this heat, I'm dust.
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No doubt. I'll tell you what was interesting to me.
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A couple years ago, I was living in the Netherlands for, like,
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three months.
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I love the Netherlands.
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Oh, I love that. I go, like, all the time.
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And one of my favorite cereals in the world, I
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can't eat in America anymore, is Cocoa Puffs. Too much
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fucking sugar.
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Wait. Wait, you're saying there's not in America anymore?
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No, I'm saying I can't eat it anymore because, like,
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I have diabetes. I reverse it with just food, no
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fucking meds. I hate big pharma. But you read the
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label Cocoa Puffs. It's got 10 million ingredients that most
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people can't pronounce. It's got like 58 grams of sugar.
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It's just pure junk.
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Yeah.
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In the Netherlands, I found Cocoa Puffs in the store.
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Three grams of sugar, three ingredients.
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That's how the Coca-Cola was in the Netherlands. Yeah.
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Yeah. It's like, why do we have to put all
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this shit? Ever since I started looking at labels... Like,
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why the fuck are they putting that? Why is there
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sugar in my frozen broccoli? Yeah.
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Well, now the new thing is the lab-grown meat.
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Oh, my God.
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And it's fucking flooding the shelves, which I think is
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just complete bullshit.
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And people are like, yeah, cool.
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They don't care.
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Do we hate each other?
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Oh, my God. And there's a lot of shit like that.
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You know, tilapia is not even a real fish. Yeah, yeah.
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Like, what the fuck? What's the other one that we eat?
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Fuck.
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I can't even think of it right now. But half
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the shit that we eat isn't real.
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No.
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It's all fake.
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It's all mad science.
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You know?
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And they pretend like they're using natural ingredients.
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They're not.
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Like, I have a trivia question for you. When it
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says on the ingredients, natural flavoring, do you know what
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that is?
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Yeah, they're putting the flavoring in like the fake shit.
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MSG.
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MSG.
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The shit that was illegal. That's what we're looking for.
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It was illegal, but now they call it natural flavoring.
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It's okay.
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They just want us to be sick.
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Well, that's a repeat customer, man. Why should we get better?
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They'd lose business.
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Yeah.
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It's stupid. That's why we need music. Yeah. Because music
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is the ultimate medicine.
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I agree.
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You know? And, like, I think we're losing that, too,
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like taking arts out of school. Like, what is up
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with that? Like, we're the only country that takes arts
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out of school.
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Yeah, and you know what's crazy?
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I seen a post on, I think, Instagram the other day,
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and it was about how the world is losing its color, right?
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Everything back in the day was so bright and colorful,
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and now you look around, everything's boring. There's no color.
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Nothing's popping out. Back in the day, you'd have these
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teal cars and bright yellow red cars, and now they're
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all Tesla black Cybertrucks and shit.
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Oh, my God. Those Cybertrucks are stupid looking.
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They are.
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I like those better than the other Teslas, but they
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are not the best looking.
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I mean, I haven't seen the inside, but just seeing
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them drive around, I'm like, That's the world. Are we
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going into a military campaign with that vehicle?
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I wouldn't be surprised if next year they flew. Oh,
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no doubt about it.
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No doubt about it.
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Cyberplane.
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So I find the same with music, too. That's what
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I like about you guys. because like a lot of
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metal music now is like I call it like an
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algebraic equation to make music like that. There's a lot
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of bands that sound exactly the same because they're using
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the same formula. That wasn't the case back in the 80s. No.
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Well, that's also the shitty part about the times we're
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living in.
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Now, artists will go in the studio and literally be like, hey,
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I want to make a Kiss song.
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You know what I'm saying? Rather than just being like...
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Do your own thing. Back in the day, it wasn't
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cool to rip off, you know.
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