Aug. 23, 2026
Exploring Punk Rock Escapism and Humor with Spike at Montreal’s Warped Tour
The conversation focused on music, punk rock culture, and the unique philosophy of Spike and The Gimme Gimmes at Warped Tour 2026 in Montreal. The discussion explored themes of showmanship, the essence of punk, and the importance of fun and escapism in music. Several stories, personal anecdotes, and observations about pets, travel, crowd dynamics, and the spirit of live festivals were shared.Main Topics Covered
- The vibe and uniqueness of Montreal and the Warped Tour venue
- Band image, on-stage antics, and philosophies around performance
- Experiences with pets and anecdotes about exotic animals
- The evolution of punk music and the band’s stance on seriousness and politics
- The importance of escapism, enjoyment, and crowd interaction at live shows
- Interactions with other notable punk figures and bands
- The conversation opened with admiration for Montreal’s unique atmosphere and how it stands out among North American cities 04:03.
- Reflections on the distinctive venue and its connection to Formula 1 racing were included 04:40.
- A key theme that emerged was the care put into the band’s look, with stories about matching sunglasses, dog hair, and even involving spouses in wardrobe choices 00:40 and 11:06.
- One concept discussed was “American Schlager culture” and how image propulsion plays into their stage presence 10:23.
- Several points were raised, including colorful stories about pets, particularly about a Chihuahua designed to match its owner's aesthetic 01:06.
- An entertaining story featured an encounter with a friend’s lemur that turned unexpectedly aggressive 02:25.
- The discussion explored the cleverness of monkeys in Bali, known for stealing sunglasses and negotiating their return 03:18.
- The band’s philosophy is centered on providing escape, enjoyment, and avoiding political messages in their music 05:58.
- A key theme that emerged was their deliberate attempt to provoke audiences, finding fun in challenging crowd expectations and reactions 06:38.
- The tension between earnest artistry and theatrical trolling was covered, with examples from festival experiences opening for other bands 07:27.
- The discussion explored the shift from the serious messages of some punk contemporaries to a focus on raw, subversive energy 09:19.
- Reflections on interaction with Captain Sensible and The Damned highlighted differences in punk approaches and influences 09:28.
- The conversation focused on the need for escapism, blocking out news and seriousness, and instead offering audiences a break from the world 12:01.
- “Shit the bed” was referenced humorously as a philosophy, urging fans to embrace chaos and fun 11:27.
- The episode wrapped with an invitation to let loose and enjoy the experience, emphasizing that “girls just wanna have fun” 13:07.
- “We don't get political… we would like to be an outlet. Everybody knows what's wrong.” 05:58
- “We try to provoke a crowd to and past the point of vocal displays of displeasure… and then we try to reel them back.” 06:38
- “We're not just like a friendly, fun cover band. We're something maybe a little darker, troublesome, troubling.” 07:04
- “It's all image propulsion. And I don't know what the image is, even.” 11:17
- “Shit the bed… burn your record player after you listen to our record because it won’t be fit for anything else afterwards.” 11:34
- “Let's just have fun. Escape the seriousness. That's why we're here.” 12:03
- Warped Tour (general references, no specific link provided)
- Reference to performance experiences with The Damned and Captain Sensible (background can be found via The Damned’s official pages)
- Mention of W4CY Radio (w4cy.com) for more content and other episodes
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Hey, you're listening to The Adventure of Pumlin on W4CY.
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For you.
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This is the Pipe Man here on the Adventures of
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Pipe Man W4CY radio, and I'm here with... Spike. Nice.
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That's me.
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Here at Warped Tour.
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Yes, indeed.
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Montreal.
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Jean Drapeau.
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You said that really well, because I can't say it
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that well. No, it's up.
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It's up.
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Thank you.
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So, first, I just want to say, I absolutely love
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your freaking glasses. They are cool as hell. Oh, thank you.
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They're like a blue with black mixed in. It's hard
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to describe. People just have to see it. But, man.
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And the whole motif, like, I had blue hair for
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a lot of years up until recently. And I'm like that.
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I would match my sunglasses and all to my hair.
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My dog matches, too. If you see my dog, she matches.
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That's not by accident.
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Nice.
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What kind of dog?
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Chihuahua. She looks like a miniature German... Australian shepherd, that is.
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But she's actually 100% Chihuahua, supposedly.
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Nice. Is she here?
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No, no, no.
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We left her back in San Francisco for this trip.
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We've flown with her a couple times. But she's kind
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of a homebody.
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She's like, I just want to stay home. You go
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do your thing, Dad.
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Yeah. She misses us, but..
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But then they're so excited when you come home. When
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you're on tour... And you go home and you have
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that come down period. It is nice to walk in
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the door and have your dog so excited to see you.
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Yes, it is. Dogs, cats, macaques.
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I don't think we're allowed to have those.
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I live in South Florida. Mother-in-laws. Well, that's a whole
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other thing. I had a friend that had a lemur
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as a pet in the house.
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Are you allowed to have that?
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Not really, but it's South Florida, so people do a
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lot of things like that.
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Yeah, you don't have to do anything in South Florida.
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Exactly, you know, and it did attack me one day.
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It was a trip. It did? Yeah, like I was
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there all the time, and it was always cool with me,
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but when they become an adult, wild, exotic animals like that,
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something happens, obviously, and just one day it just freaked
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out and it was bouncing off all the walls and
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of my elbow, and then it was stalking me. I
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ran out of the house, and it was, like, going
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side to side, and the sliding glass door was stalking me.
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And I'm like, I don't know, maybe I just invaded
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his space.
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It had you sussed, finally.
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I know, right? It was definitely... More exciting than any
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mosh pit I've been in. Or scarier, let's put it
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that way.
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Yeah, and they're serious little animals, right?
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I've been watching these Instagram videos with this guy. I
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think he's a Chinese guy that scares macaque monkeys with
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a song.
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It's pretty funny. Oh, man.
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I love when you go to Bali and the monkeys
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steal your shit and then negotiate with you to get
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it back. So I was in Bali and they love
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to steal your sunglasses. And then they want you to
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give them food. But if they don't like the food
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you give them, they throw it away and you can't
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come get your sunglasses. Oh, that's great. But the minute
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you give them the food they want, they just hand
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them back to you.
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Yeah, man.
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So smart.
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They're smarter than we think, than we want to give
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them credit for.
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No doubt. So how's it feel being here after all
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these years in Montreal at Warped Tour 2026?
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Um. It's difficult to describe.
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I love Montreal. It's one of my favorite North American cities.
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To me, it's up there with New Orleans and San
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Francisco and New York. Not because of size or relevance
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or anything like that, but just because.
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It doesn't look like anywhere.
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The vibe.
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The vibe, yeah. Exactly. I love it here. So I'd
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love any excuse to come back is... Very welcome.
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And this venue, this venue, like I walked in, I've
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never been here. I felt like I was just at
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a big skate park. Like it's so cool.
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Formula one races here too.
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I think so.
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Yeah. Villeneuve, the dad, dad, dad, like they got a
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whole circuit named after him.
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Right. Nice. Yeah.
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That's where we went today to the wrong address that
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we were given.
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So we're late today.
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So I think there, there's a lot of sort of,
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questionable information being given from, you know, official sources.
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But you made it. We did make it.
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Our drummer's not here yet. He's had many canceled flights
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and one was diverted to Dulles instead of... So it's been...
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It's been crazy.
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I know that feeling. Yesterday I did that all day.
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They, you know..
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And then with a bunch of big gun cases, you're.
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A square peg.
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You always were a square peg, but these days.
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We're moving into a different... We're really turning a corner
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in the world, I think.
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I think so, which is why I think bands like
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you and Warped Tour and punk rock in general is
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needed more than ever.
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Yes, pleasure, enjoyment... Even carefree.
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Because we don't get political, and I certainly have political
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ideas and beliefs, but we're pretty serious about keeping it
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out of.
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Our oeuvre, so to speak.
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Just because we would like to be an outlet. Everybody
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knows what's wrong. Half of them are wrong about it. Right.
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But everybody knows that something's wrong.
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And they don't need some middle class white dude screaming
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to them about it.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So we try to provide a different form of entertainment.
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This is our escape. Trolling.
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Well, sort of.
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It's weird, though, because, you know, like on the nights
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that we get the loudest boos, because we do try
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to provoke a crowd. to and past the point of
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vocal displays of like displeasure and disapproval.
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Um, and then we try to reel them back.
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And on the nights when the booze get the loudest,
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that's when we sell the most t-shirts. So we definitely
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understand our role. Um, we're not just like a friendly,
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fun cover band. We're, we're something maybe a little darker.
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Um, Troublesome? Troubling?
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Still fun, though. Still fun.
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Because for the same reason I hope that comedians are fun.
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Because you look at one another, you're like, did he
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just mean what he just said? Or did she just mean?
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And those to me are the genius comedians. And so
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we've been on many festivals like this, obviously. And we've
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been on tours. where we opened for the likes of
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the Violent Femmes or Flogging Molly. And very quickly, we
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began to understand our role, given that everybody else was
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very earnest..
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Very well rehearsed.
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And talking about their ideas or their music, being very
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serious about it. They definitely want to be the heroes
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of their own story. We don't share that sickness.
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You just want to be a musician and have fun.
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No, we want to troll crowds, man. Maybe it comes
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from getting beat up. so much when I was a kid.
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I know Bill Burr talked about it. He said it
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was the only way to come into a room where
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I could make everybody like me. Because I watched one
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of his specials the other night. I was like, wow,
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that's a really interesting way to put it. Because when
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you go through rituals of humiliation and beating..
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Hi, Kenny. How are you?
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Good to see you. It's okay.
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She's around.
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She's around.
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She just dropped me in a golf cart.
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Good to see you, baby.
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And so, given that that is sort of the way everybody...
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I mean, pretty much everybody in music, certainly in punk music,
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which I don't think everybody had that sickness in the
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70s where they had to be serious and had to.
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Really present ideas. No, it was vibe and image propulsion.
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No doubt.
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And even cool surrealist, like, we were talking, and I
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love The Clash, but we were talking recently to Captain Sensible.
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They came up and played a few songs with us
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in Vegas.
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A few years back, and played some damned songs with
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Pinch on the drums, who plays drums with us.
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Captain Sensible being sort of derogatory about a lot of
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the other, you know, punk bands of the era because
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they were serious and these bands that i still like
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i love in fact like the clash but but thought
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about it from that perspective like when you see and
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understand a band like the damned and what they were
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trying to present which was not political ideas no any
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kind of cogent anything just raw rock and roll that's
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really what energy and they didn't even have a word
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for it nobody was saying punk at that time they
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were just going out and being weirdos you know continuing
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the great weirdo tradition and that's what we're trying to
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do weirdo rock and roll um There's elements of American trash,
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as you'll see. My wife, Audra, who does our wardrobe,
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she likes to call it... American Schlager culture. So if
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you're familiar with Schlager music from Germany, I don't know
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why you would be.
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I just came from Wacken, so..
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So there's a culture around it, too. Schlager doesn't just
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sound like something. It looks like something.
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It sounds like shit, to be perfectly honest.
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But it looks really good, really trashy, a lot of
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mylar and shiny microphones. And I think, if I'm not mistaken,
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you know... Audra might rake me over the coals for
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saying this, but I think that was sort of her
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inspiration for how she dresses us. And, you know, I
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just try to stuff a wild monkey suit and live
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up to the costume.
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Live up to the threads.
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There it is. There it is.
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It's all image propulsion, and I don't know what the
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image is, even.
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Well, you know what? The thing is, there's a phrase
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that I'm going to say that says it all. Shit
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the bed.
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Shit the bed. Yeah. It wouldn't be the first time.
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Oh, my God. I just love that.
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And burn the sheets. You know what I mean? That
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doesn't wash off. You know what I mean? Just burn them.
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Burn your record player after you listen to our record,
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because it won't be fit for anything else afterwards.
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We're going to shit your record player. We're going to
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shit the bed and we're going to shit your ear holes, man.
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But you do it so well.
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Oh, thank you. I think so. And I think this
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is our best yet.
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And you know what? I love that you don't take
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it so seriously. It's music. Let's just have fun. Escape
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the seriousness. That's why we're here. I don't want to
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hear that shit. I'll have people call me during a
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festival and be like, Did you see the news? I'm like, no,
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I don't give a fuck. Go obsess over the news.
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I'm here.
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I'm with them. I obsess over the news, but it
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doesn't come to my metier.
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Right, not here.
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I'm very disciplined about keeping it out of my metier.
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