Aug. 12, 2026

Famous Strangers Band: Canadian Rockers Discuss Music, Mosh Pits, and Staying True to Themselves

Famous Strangers Band: Canadian Rockers Discuss Music, Mosh Pits, and Staying True to Themselves
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In this lively episode of the Adventures of Pipeman on W4CY Radio, the host sits down with members of Famous Strangers, an Edmonton-based band, for an open, fun, and heartfelt conversation. The episode covers the band’s origins, musical influences, creative philosophy, and their commitment to authenticity and artistic freedom. There are stories about scene camaraderie, live music’s power, and the role of love and community in both music and life. The episode also explores the importance of evolving as artists, embracing diversity in musical taste, and why the band avoids genre boxes and filler tracks. Listeners will hear about the band’s debut album, their artistic motivations, the importance of the arts, and where to find their music online.Main Topics Covered

  • Band Introduction & Energy of Their Music
  • Artistic Influences and Imagery (Pink Floyd, KMFDM, genre inspiration)
  • “No Filler” Philosophy in Songwriting
  • Heritage, Identity, and Influence of Family Background
  • The Canadian Music Scene and Edmonton’s Metal Community
  • The Unifying Power of Music and Live Events
  • Pit Stories and Festival Culture
  • Cancel Culture & Changing Social Norms in Entertainment
  • Band Formation and the Importance of Timing and Chemistry
  • Balancing Music, Lifestyle, and Personal Choices
  • Musical Authenticity and Rejecting Genre Labels
  • Creative Freedom, Growth, and Artistic Evolution
  • Overcoming Adversity and Finding Strength in Art
  • Community, Motivation, and Life Philosophy
  • Resources and How to Connect with the Band
Key Discussions & StoriesBand’s Origin Story and Chemistry
  • The members of Famous Strangers met through Edmonton’s punk and metal scenes, playing together in various bands before forming their current group. Their collaboration started informally, jamming and playing covers, but grew into sharing original music and finding an unexpected synergy that inspired the full band project. Timing and maturity played a big role in their eventual formation 20:19.
Visual and Musical Influences
  • The band discusses the creative process behind their music videos and artwork, referencing inspirations like Pink Floyd’s “The Wall” and KMFDM’s “A Drug Against War.” They emphasize a recurring use of black and white imagery, which has become central to their visual identity 02:09.
The “No Filler” Album Approach
  • They believe in only releasing music they fully stand behind; their record features seven strong tracks without any padding. This focus on substance keeps the energy and impact high for listeners 03:32.
Family, Heritage, and Music
  • The members reflect on cultural heritage and how family backgrounds (German, Ukrainian, Italian, Southern Italian influences) shape their identity, habits, and sometimes even speech patterns 04:03.
Canadian Music Scene Pride
  • Stories about local influences like SNFU, The Smalls, and Devin Townsend, as well as discussions about the supportive Edmonton metal scene and its sense of family and camaraderie 06:17.
Live Music Culture: Love, Community, and Mosh Pits
  • Conversation about the unique inclusiveness of metal and festival culture—comparing mosh pit etiquette and festival family vibes to other music scenes. Metalheads and festival-goers are described as the most accepting and friendly people, challenging common stereotypes 09:01.
On Growth and Avoiding Artistic Boxes
  • Band members stress the importance of creative evolution, rejecting the need to repeat past formulas, and cite Metallica and Bring Me the Horizon as examples of artists who’ve faced criticism for changing their sound but grown through it 31:14.
Motivation, Mental Health, and Following Your Heart
  • The discussion often returns to motivation, resilience, and self-worth. The musicians view their music as an extension of motivational speaking, encouraging others to pursue what sets their “soul on fire” despite obstacles or naysayers 35:07.
Value of Arts in Society
  • There’s a call to maintain and defend arts education in schools, recognizing the transformative impact that music and creativity have on individuals and communities 45:13.
Notable Quotes
  • “We’re really lucky that our graphic designer and our manager now, Art Zabo, just put that all together...” 02:09
  • “7 bangers, let’s go, and keep you rolling through the whole thing, you know.” 03:32
  • “You just gotta go get it.” 25:15
  • “I want to tour the whole world and start a love cult because I think the best human form is everyone all together in one energy and one love.” 15:06
  • “Music’s all about emotion, and you’re not gonna feel the same emotion every day, and that’s okay.” 16:27
  • “If you’re in it for fame and fortune, you’re in for the wrong reasons, in my opinion.” 28:29
  • “I have complete creative control. And guess what? We’re having so much fun, and a voice is coming out of me that I never even knew.” 30:40
  • “There’s beauty. You can find beauty in any song... there’s enough success to go around for everyone, you know?” 36:40
  • “I think when you start just doing it for you and being you... that’s where things started happening for me, and it’s amazing how that works.” 38:20
Resources & Links Mentioned
  • Band Website: famousstrangersband.com — Find shows, merch, bios, and all related links 44:08
  • Album Release: Self-titled debut album drops on the 21st, coinciding with the Montreal Warped Tour 44:36
Connect with Famous Strangers
  • Official Website: famousstrangersband.com (contains all social and streaming links)
  • Show Info & Merch: Available via their website
Final Takeaways
  • Famous Strangers are committed to authenticity, community, and musical exploration.
  • They value creative freedom, continuous growth, and fostering a spirit of unity through music.
  • Their journey—and the episode—encourages listeners to break from boxes, follow their passions, support the arts, and, above all, have fun.


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Hy you live done to censure?

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Wow for you you.

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This is pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man

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W four c Y Radio, and I am here with

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some strange people from the North. Oh wait, they're famous strangers.

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So let's welcome the famous strangers, my neighbors to the north.

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Hello.

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How's it going.

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Well, it's going killer because I just got back from

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these festivals and then I was getting prepared for your interview.

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And here's how I prepare for an interview. I was

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just sitting and headbanging to your song. That's that's my

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operation for interviews. Like you gotta get up, you gotta

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get all pumped up for the music to promote the band.

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Like that's like there are a lot of people that

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aren't metal heads that interview metal bands, and like, if

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I were a metal band, I wouldn't want that. You know,

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if I don't like your music, I can't interview you.

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My job is to promote you.

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If I don't like the music, I can't say good

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ship about it.

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You didn't get the cancel email.

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Which which bang into there's some of them.

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You can't bang as your leader.

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Okay that makes sense, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, And what the what cool video. Man,

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Like that was total.

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Like technology right there.

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It was just kind of cool the way like I'm

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into it, like the way it was forming and and

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then like it like a phone and in the middle.

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But yeah, but black and white. The black and white

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I think did.

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It for me.

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Yeah, thank you.

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We I don't know why we keep coming back to

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this like black and white logo.

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With the band. It started out at the very.

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Beginning, and then it just keeps happening. And we're really

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lucky that our graphic designer and our manager now now

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are at Zabo just put that all together because we

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were kind of going with, you know, Pink Floyd.

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The Wall, the movie, and then what was the other one.

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Jeff KMFDM A drug against War. Yeah, we kind of

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like get that style going.

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I totally got the big Pink Floyd vibe for sure.

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I don't know the other one, so I can't speak

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to the other one.

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Oh dude, check it out. Man, it's a great video.

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It's uh yeah, it's a great one.

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So yeah, so I could totally get that vibe of

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like of what I remember of The Wall, you know,

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because like there's two ways to watch The Wall, and

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one way is more interesting than the other.

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Yes.

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So I also love in your biography where it says

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no filler okay. So that's so important to me because

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like when you just drop like filler stuff on an album,

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I think it takes away from the power of the

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rest of the album.

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Completely agree, Like, I mean, we could have put maybe

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nine or ten songs on it, but h seven bangers.

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Let's go and keep your rolling through the whole thing,

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you know.

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Yeah.

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So, and you know I have to ask you we

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were talking before. You know, you're in Canada obviously, but

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your your heritage is German and Ukrainian. Yet you sound

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totally like a Canadian just saying I get that. It's

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it's almost like you practice because you're perfect.

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You have perfect Canadian speaking.

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He had a lot of practice.

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I was born and raised in Canada.

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Well see, then that makes sense.

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But you know it is funny like I have you know,

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I'm an Italian Jew, okay, but the Italian part. When

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I was at vaking, I was with a bunch of

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Italian uh, you know, journalists, and they're like, where where

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in Italy is your family from? Like no, I don't know.

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They wouldn't tell me. Like my grandfather was Maffia and

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they didn't tell me shit, okay, And so they were

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listening to me talk and like, I'm not I'm not

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born and raised there, and they're like, oh, you're from

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the South.

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They know, they knew from certain ways.

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I said stuff that I have no clue I was

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saying it that way, so you know, and then it's

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pretty obvious by Like we were talking too about the

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food that I like, you know, there's Southern Italian food.

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And there's northern so okay, so it's kind of wild.

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My point is is how like, you know, even though

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even if you've never stepped foot in the country, if

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you have that heritage, there's something already innately in you.

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It's it's inside you. And you grew up your your

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family like cooked you the meals, so like you grew

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up with those meals. Yeah, I say, you learn it

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from your whole family.

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That's so cool exactly.

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And you know, you get yelled at for certain things,

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you know, like don't call it sauce, it's gravy, and

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I think that's a Southern thing, you know, son, And

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it's like, you know, no, don't twirl it that way,

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twirl it this way that the same.

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Thing you create. It's not pro easy, it's put a half,

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get it right right.

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Yeah, So you know, I got I gotta say, though,

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what badass music? Why is it always Canadians come up

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with the most badass music?

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Is because your weather sucks that bad?

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Yeah, that could be part of it, uh, the isolation

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part of that. There's been some good ones from Canada,

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you know. I'm uh yeah, especially even from where where

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we are, from Edmonton, you know, ask and if you

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stem from here. Another punk band alongside of them, The Smalls,

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is one of my favorite, huge Devin Townsend stopping young

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lad fan, he's Canadian. It's yeah, there's some good ones.

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I just talked to Devin recently. I just talked to

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Triumph recently. You know, like, it just does amaze me

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that you have these bands there, that they're like the

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greatest musicians, you know, present company included there. I also

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want to say to you that a couple of years ago,

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was it last year?

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I think it was.

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I can't remember now. Okay, I'm a huge hockey fan,

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but I'm a devil. I'm a devil's fan, I am.

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I live in South Florida now and I hate the

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I hate the Panthers, so I was rooting for Edmonton

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against the Panthers.

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Amazing. The Devils made quite come back. I think it

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was last year and the year before like almost made

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history with it. It was great.

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Yeah, I just to have like second row blue line

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when Jacques Lemaire was coach and bro Door was the

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uh was the goalie. And I remember being at the

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Stanley Cup and Gretzky was like thirteen rows behind me,

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So that felt good too.

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Yeah, we we kind of didn't make it this year,

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but the last two years we made it to the

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very end. And literally if the Oilers keep winning games,

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the city keeps making money.

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So the whole city is like just vibrating with energy.

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So and I definitely like that when I was young

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because of Gretzky.

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You know, Yes, I think a whole vibe rubs off

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from the music scene too, Like the whole scene around here.

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Just it's it's such a proper metal family and uh,

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everybody supports all the local shows and uh, just it's

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it's really it's something else here. It's a special place.

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I think that's the way it should be. I love that.

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I love hearing that you.

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Know it's all about the love.

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That's that's great, you know. See, that's what it should

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be about. When you when you take some hater asshole,

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you punch them in the face with love on your fingers,

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or you get.

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The you get the rings.

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Oh yeah, yeah.

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But I'm such a lover. I've never punched anybody in

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my life.

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So I'm learning how to just like remove myself that. Yeah,

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I can't. I can't say the same. I played hockey,

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that's okay, but I won't punch people in the mosh

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pit unless they're the big dudes that try to go

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into a pit to try to hurt main people.

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And I'll yeah one ale, oh yeah, I'm.

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A little dude, So like that asshole, I'll come around

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and I'll get down like Mike Tyson, come up with

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my elbow and I'll be on the other side of

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pit before he knows who hit him.

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But I can't even do it anymore.

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I the mosh pits like at like I'm still young

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and whatnot, but I certainly ain't twenty anymore. So even

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just warm little push is so painful. But I did

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start the mosh pit last year at Acid Bath. I

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couldn't help myself sixteen again.

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Nice nice, Well, I guys say, of all the pits

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I've been in my life, and I've been in like

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lots of them, the most fun I ever had was

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at Bloodstock when Heavy Sores played and I was in

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the dinosaur pit.

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It doesn't get much better than that than like no dinosaurs. Okay,

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Like that was a first, Like the After as many

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shows as I've been to, there's very few times there's

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a first that was a first. There was this other

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band called Evil Square Scarecrow. They were a really fun

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band too, and they their pit was full of crabs

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and spiders.

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I love that creative.

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I know, it's great, like and that's why I've had

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I actually talked about this in some interviews of like

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that hardcore band that I don't know if you saw

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the news of they like pointed out this banana.

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And you remember this.

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I told Jeff about this and they almost got canceled.

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Well and not they should because they're fucking as.

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A ship, because why would you.

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Had everybody rip us off? And they were saying kill

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the banana.

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Yeah, like a banana alone, Like if someone wants to

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come and dress up and have fun and yeah, no,

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I I told Jeff that immediately because I'm I'm so like,

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I'm all about love.

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I'm a tree hugging hivy and I'm terrified of cancel culture.

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Not that I ever try to do that, but it's like,

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even if you're at a show, and even though who

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does that, but even the littlest things can get you, like,

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you know, oh yeah, it's scary.

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I even changed my radio show a bit because if

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you listen to my show from like ten years ago,

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it'd be kind of canceled today just doing funny bits.

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You can't even have a sense of humor anymore. Like,

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don't take it so seriously. That's what I like these

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bands I'm talking about, because they don't take it so seriously.

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No, w reason we start doing this is for fun,

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and yeah that's why you should be doing.

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It for her, and it is for love, you know.

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Yeah, the nicest people and just one big family. Like

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you know, people think, oh, scary, evil, blah blah blahah. Meanwhile,

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at the end of a good circle pit, you got

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a bunch of huge dudes that look scary hug at

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each other, you know, and that's the way it should be.

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I never hit the ground in amash pit. You're always picked.

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Up exactly exactly, you know.

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And I'll tell you a story too that like kind

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of proves the point. So one time I had to

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cover two festivals in one weekend, and obviously I couldn't

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do that.

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So I send somebody that work for me.

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And she was a country girl, okay, and I basically

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she was scared to go.

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Like, listen, you're scared to go.

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You go to these country gigs where a bunch of

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rednecks are getting drunk on Jack Daniels and kicking the.

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Shit out of each other.

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You're getting good at this gig, and you're gonna see

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there's gonna be no fights, and that you'll probably need

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a bunch of new friends. You may even get a

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new boyfriend, and you'll have the best time you exactly.

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And she comes back after the weekend she goes, oh

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my god, you were so right. I met all these

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cool people and everybody's so friendly, and I have all

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these new friends now, and I take that, and I

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tea bag this guy and he's now my boyfriend, and

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word for word, and and and I have this new

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favorite band. I don't know if you know who they

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are there called bring me the Horizon nice and I'm like, yeah,

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I think I might know them.

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Well, that's the beauty of it, you got it.

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I love all music, so I always go to different

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and festivals, like how I've been to Shambalat here in

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BC is a big rave like you'd be surprised of

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what you're going to find and who you're going to

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meet and the experience. It's always just music is art

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and it's a beautiful thing and brings everyone together. So

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I'm not surprised that she didn't have the best time

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of her life.

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That's so cool.

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Ad I just say, yeah.

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I just love how everybody can in metal shows. They

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can be themselves, dress all they want, there's no judgment,

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it's all everybody's there for the same reason, and everybody

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supports you no matter what you look like. Say it's

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it's it's amazing.

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It's exactly like I'll give a shift.

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You show up as an avocado man, like do you

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you do?

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You? Do?

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You do you?

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That's it.

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That's what I'm That's what we're trying to do here.

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I want to I want to tour the whole world

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and start a love cult because I think they the

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best human forum is everyone all together in one energy

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and one love.

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And that's what concerts are.

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And and sports and sports, like any any place where

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everybody's in one spot and everybody's just like so happy

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you leave feeling weird. That's that connection that we're missing

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in the world. As your leader song is about, like.

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Yeah, well, and to your point before about music, like

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if you're a metal head that that you say that's

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all you like, then there's something wrong with you because

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we all like all kinds of music, and there was

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a be a foundation before there was even a metal

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that we all have our influences from. And like you

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said about hippie, okay, this is what I call myself.

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It's even in my description on my Facebook.

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I am a metal head, punk, hippie professional business man

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because you don't need to be one thing. And like

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I used to go Slayer shows on Friday night and

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Dead shows on Saturday, like you can experience all these

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vibes and like I'm just as happy in a dinosaur

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pit as I am a like dirty heads show as

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a Dead show.

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And then you know, and that's that's it. Music's all

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about emotion and you're not going to feel the same

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emotion every day and that's okay. And some day you

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might want to listen to Daughter and Berney Spears. On

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the other day you're listening to The Slayer and Impacts.

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Is just enjoy it.

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And it's funny you said to what you did, because

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I had my grandkids in the car earlier, and you know,

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we were blasting the metal and their head bagging. And

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then I was like, I was asking my granddaughter. I'm like, so,

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what are you think about to listen to some Tailor Swift?

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So first I played the I prevailed version.

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Of Blank Spaces.

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Yeah, yeah, okay, and then she requested real Tailor Swift.

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So I'm like, okay, and I played it. You know,

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like music is music. It's the best therapy there.

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Is, you know.

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And like you said, do you have different vibes at times?

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Like there's times I just want to sit through dark

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side of the moon, you know, So that that's what's

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cool about you guys too. And I do to your

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love point, I think you're gonna need to help me

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with this idea.

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I have to solve all the world's problems.

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Oh that's a big one, man. Yeah, how on earth

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do we do that.

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I have it okay, and now we might have to

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tweak it based on what you said I was thinking about.

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But my original thought is one metal festival that the

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whole world is required to attend, except the political leaders.

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Security has very strict instructions that they are to get

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turned away. And then we just put the whole world

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in a mosh pit and we could work it all

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out and hug each other at the end.

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And it's over Woodstock game both Woodstock did it really

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good the first one, and it's like it's a thing

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that it'll work. It'll work.

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Yeah, And the only problem with Woodstock is I figured

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out something. The hippies became the yuppies became the boomers.

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Like if the boomers were just stayed hippies, maybe whendn't

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we wouldn't have these problems right now?

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Fair enough?

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So tell us about the new album. Uh well, first,

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let's back up a second. Tell us about how this

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all came together.

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You know you guys as a.

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Band, Well, we uh me, I know, I knew Jeff

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because I hop I hop from genre to genre. I

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knew Jeff from the punk scene and we would see

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each other at each other's shows. We would always we'd

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be playing shows with a order of chaos and this

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is war. And Jeff Knew Beach grew up with Beij

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and Braiden, and they Beij and Jeff wrote a whole

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bunch of songs, like twenty songs that have been in

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the vault for a decade. And then Braiden came in

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after that. And then one day he called me up

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and he was like, come play some covers.

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And we weren't even supposed to be a band.

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And I think the beautiful part of it is that

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a lot of veterans nowadays are coming together, intertwining different

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bands because we all just want to like have let's

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just have fun and let's just write music. So we

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would put the space lights on and maybe have a

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couple Lucky beers, maybe some Budweisers, and we'd smoke.

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A little weed.

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And and one day they just dropped like a couple

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Originals on me, and I just was like, WHOA, what

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the fuck is this? Like I feel like twenty years

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of my words were being held back and put into

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a box and it.

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Just exploded one night. Nice it was crazy. So we

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weren't even supposed to even be a band. It's just

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like it's crazy. How do you know people for so

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long and then they become your family.

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That's how the universe works, Like like you probably got

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messages before and just didn't listen, and this time this

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universe just slapped you over to head.

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We tried to connect before and it didn't happen, like

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we weren't ready at that moment.

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Timing, timing is everything is everything you know, and maybe

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that timing is you know where you're at in life

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now compared to then. That creates the chemistry that creates

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the great music one honored.

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I wasn't I wasn't ready at all. I think earlier

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until until I started, like I mean, Graded and Beach

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played in some bands that I really looked up to

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going up, and uh, just life for me went down

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a road maybe where I just wasn't quite ready. And

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the fact that I got to finally play with those

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guys they were essentially my childhood heroes, and I just

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I think earlier I wasn't ready for it, and once

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once I played with them, I became more mature and ready.

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And same thing once the magna came in that it

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was just the timing and the chemistry and here we go.

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Here we are in any fact, the fact that none

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of us have like aren't married or have any like

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kids or anything like that.

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How how did that happen? How do you get a.

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Band our age that have like not really we have responsibilities,

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but it's not like it's not the same.

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We're else.

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Yeah, we have somebody else telling you how your life shot.

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Well, you can do it. I've seen it happen.

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Like. That's why I praise musician wives and musician husbands

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because it's not an easy job. No, but but we're

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just blessed that the four of us have not those

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big responsibilities where we can just I made sure I

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made my life like this, like I live alone, I

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don't have any husband, I don't got no pets, which

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I really want them, but I want to be able

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to like get out on the road tomorrow if I

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have to.

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Well I and I get you totally because I do

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have four kids.

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That's amazing.

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Though during that time when raising them, like I didn't

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go anywhere and I had the you know, the dogs,

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and but then once I became the empty nester, it

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was like I'm like back the way I was before

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I ever got married. Yeah, and that's the traveling and

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the going here and going there, and like, I would

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love to have a dog, but it's not fair a

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dog or me that lifestyle, so I don't.

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And you know, I have people in cleaning a.

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Brother that says, oh, you're never gonna find a woman

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the life the way you live life.

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I'm like, no, I'm.

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The one that lives life that way too, you know,

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And I wouldn't have to change my lifestyle, so me too,

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I've created that life that I can live like this and.

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The right person will also be living like that and that.

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That's I think that's where it's key, because you talk

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about the you know, musicians, wives and husbands, and you know,

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it does take a special person to be able to

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want that life.

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Yeah, for sure. Like I mean, my uh, just a

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little history. My dad was a juring musician and he

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met my mom on the road and he was success

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George with the Who and played with some heavy players

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and uh she uh, my mom raised she wanted kids,

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and my dad kind of played off the road and

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stuffer a bit to give her that. But eventually, just

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like it did his blood and it fell into our blood,

439
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and my mom throughout her whole life, raised three musicians

440
00:24:22.039 --> 00:24:26.000
and it's it's yeah, it takes a special person for sure,

441
00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:29.839
and I praiser every day for that and it's not easy.

442
00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:31.880
But you just going back to what you said, you

443
00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:35.640
create your life and uh, you just follow your heart

444
00:24:35.640 --> 00:24:37.880
and everything else falls into place. People come around that

445
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:40.559
we're supposed to be with you and it works out.

446
00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:44.119
You guys can have to you guys to it, like,

447
00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:47.519
I give you all the props, Amanda, because like so

448
00:24:47.599 --> 00:24:51.240
many people, they'll settle because.

449
00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:52.960
They can't stand being alone.

450
00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:56.920
Okay, right, and I was at that point. I was

451
00:24:57.119 --> 00:24:57.839
at that point.

452
00:24:58.000 --> 00:25:02.400
But shit happens and you get all to all to

453
00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:05.200
that stuff. But who's to say we can't have it all?

454
00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:11.000
Like's of being like, okay, tour or love you know.

455
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:16.599
Yeah, I hate the word I can't like. I mean,

456
00:25:16.920 --> 00:25:19.720
that's just you put the block in there and a

457
00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:22.240
capable of amazing things and you can do whatever you want.

458
00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:23.519
You just got to go get it.

459
00:25:24.079 --> 00:25:26.920
I totally believe that because I'm also a motivational speaker,

460
00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:28.319
so I oh, I love that.

461
00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:31.279
I want I walk that life and that's why I

462
00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:34.039
live the way I do now because it's like Okay,

463
00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:38.319
when I was young, I let emotions take over and

464
00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:40.720
I did have this idea of the woman I wanted

465
00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:44.200
to be with. But then it's like, I can live

466
00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:47.400
without that. I can live without that. But the truth

467
00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:50.279
is you really can't. That's why you end up getting

468
00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:55.279
divorce those things. Yeah, I also firmly believe you're never

469
00:25:55.319 --> 00:25:57.279
going to meet the person you're meant to be with

470
00:25:57.359 --> 00:26:00.559
if you're with somebody else. So as as long as

471
00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:03.599
I'm with somebody that doesn't have all the qualities I want,

472
00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:06.559
I'm never going to beat the one that does. So

473
00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:10.359
for sure, you know you got you gotta have enough

474
00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:14.240
guts to stand your ground and wait for what you

475
00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:16.960
really want, because it will happen if you do that.

476
00:26:17.839 --> 00:26:18.920
You're so amazing.

477
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:23.759
I feel like I'm being a motivational speaker through the

478
00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:26.400
music because it's all about like you are worthy and

479
00:26:26.799 --> 00:26:29.039
we're all one divine. So I love that you said

480
00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:32.640
that because I've been alone for four years and sometimes you.

481
00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:35.039
Get at night, you get lonely and you wonder, but

482
00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:35.880
thank you.

483
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:38.920
It's hard, especially if you go on tour like you

484
00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:41.279
would as a musician, like I do, with doing the

485
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:44.279
media at the festivals, because like, after I get done

486
00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:48.079
with this interview, I'm probably gonna go into the seclusion

487
00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:53.519
come down thing, you know that happens, and like because

488
00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:55.759
I was just with all my friends and all these

489
00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:59.599
people and like, and then you know, now you're all

490
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:01.640
by your so I get it.

491
00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:03.079
But then you go out again.

492
00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:05.119
Yeah, then you go.

493
00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:09.200
Out again, and then it's like being on drugs without doing.

494
00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:13.279
Drugs, and then you're socially drained and you have to

495
00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:15.799
sleep for two days. I don't even know how you

496
00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:19.200
should be sleeping right now, sir. We appreciate your presence.

497
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:20.200
No doubt.

498
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:22.640
Like I already said, I'll be when I get I

499
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:24.319
told somebody when I get home, I'll.

500
00:27:24.200 --> 00:27:28.319
Sleep for like two days. Like yeah, currently between travel.

501
00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:33.839
And you know, from the last festival, I literally till

502
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:37.440
last night did not sleep for twenty five hours and

503
00:27:37.720 --> 00:27:42.200
over to pass as you know, month and a half.

504
00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:45.200
You know, if I got two to three hours a

505
00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:49.359
night sleep, that was a lot, you know. And so yeah,

506
00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:52.000
I get that whole two day thing. It's like, okay,

507
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:53.839
and somebody said something to me, you need to get

508
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:56.000
some rest. I will when I get home for like

509
00:27:56.039 --> 00:28:02.319
two days, right, Yeah, But it is because in the

510
00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:06.519
music because the music. You're right, it is motivational. It

511
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:10.640
should be motivational. It's the best therapy there is. And

512
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:13.359
you mentioned the word that I talk about all the

513
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:14.079
time earlier.

514
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:14.880
Fun.

515
00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:20.119
If you're not having fun, this is a shitty industry

516
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:20.599
to be in.

517
00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:25.559
To be honest, I think any business.

518
00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:28.440
You don't love it, it doesn't love you. And uh yeah,

519
00:28:28.480 --> 00:28:30.720
I think that's it. It's fun if you're if you're

520
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:32.519
in it for fame and fortune, you're in for the

521
00:28:32.640 --> 00:28:33.960
whole reasons in my opinion.

522
00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:42.640
Fucking sorry, Jeff, I quit. Yes, we do get love back, and.

523
00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:46.400
Of course we're lucky to have the team that we do.

524
00:28:46.480 --> 00:28:48.920
But I've had a lot of people talk to me

525
00:28:49.119 --> 00:28:52.000
like I'll never forget Stu Block being like the industry

526
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:55.079
will each chew you up and spit you out, but

527
00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:59.519
it ain't gonna stop me and I it's.

528
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:03.480
What you make of it, too, what it's in your blood.

529
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:06.599
Like my youngest daughter sometimes she'll come to me and

530
00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:09.359
come to a festival well with me, and halfway through

531
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:10.960
the first day she's like, Dad, I don't know how

532
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:14.160
you do this. Every weekend I'm done already, right, And

533
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:16.799
me I'm like, well, I don't know how I wouldn't.

534
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:17.680
Yeah, Like.

535
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:22.440
It's just like like we said, you know, you go there,

536
00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:25.519
it's like are high as hell, you know, and then

537
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:30.440
you come and it's like it's weird the silence, the silence,

538
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:36.200
and it's wild for me. Like I'm an extrovert and

539
00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:38.960
a loner at the same time. Okay, So it's like

540
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:41.519
I could be at a music festival with one hundred thousand

541
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:44.599
of my closest friends and feel like I'm on top

542
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:46.680
of the world with all those people, but then I'm

543
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:49.880
also completely alone in that crowd.

544
00:29:50.279 --> 00:29:52.799
I feel that so much. That's so crazy.

545
00:29:53.400 --> 00:29:57.319
What's called I just call it what I just said,

546
00:29:57.319 --> 00:29:59.960
because I hate fucking labels, like they want to lay

547
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:01.839
bully and put you in a box, no matter what

548
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:04.240
it is, whether it's a label like that.

549
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:08.720
Or a genre. Yeah, what genre are you?

550
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:12.240
You have to be only this genre like that?

551
00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:15.000
That's why I'm blessed with these boys.

552
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:18.440
Man, they I've been in a box for twenty plus

553
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:19.079
fucking year.

554
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:20.319
Excuse my language.

555
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:23.480
Oh I already gave you permission by saying.

556
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:26.839
Oh did you yay? I have such a potty mouse.

557
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:31.400
No, you can say whatever the fuck you want.

558
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:34.599
Okay, good fuck fuck fuck yeah.

559
00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:38.960
I'm so excited that I was put in a box

560
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:40.039
for twenty plus years.

561
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:41.400
So that's the first man ever.

562
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:44.799
That I that I have a complete creative control. And

563
00:30:44.920 --> 00:30:48.359
guess what, we're having so much fun and a voice

564
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:50.440
is coming out of me that I never even knew.

565
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:53.799
Who's who knew that if you like treat each other

566
00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:57.799
with respect and love? Wow, what concepts best will come

567
00:30:57.839 --> 00:30:58.599
out of you? Huh?

568
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:00.759
What a concept? Well?

569
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:04.000
Like I think Ali for Bring Me said it best

570
00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:06.559
when he was getting all kinds of ship for the

571
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:10.400
new music and changing everything up, and he said, why

572
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:12.319
do I have to write the same song over and

573
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:12.799
over again?

574
00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:14.039
Why do I want to do that?

575
00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:16.680
He's gonna have growth. You're an artist.

576
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:20.039
You're gonna grow, You're gonna explore and miss there's beauty

577
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:21.759
and mistakes and.

578
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:27.440
Yeah, yeah, everybody judge Metallica so bad for that, and

579
00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:30.160
I feel bad. It's like James once said, well, you

580
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.319
want to hear my Monster Puppets, go listen to Puppets

581
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:36.000
like it's there. You don't need to do it every

582
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:39.160
record like it's funny.

583
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:39.920
It's funny.

584
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:42.119
You should mention Metallica because I was going to bring

585
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:44.640
that up too. I was at Metallica's first show ever,

586
00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:50.079
and so I was one of those original like teenagers

587
00:31:50.240 --> 00:31:53.240
that when Black Album came out, fucking.

588
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.839
Posers sellouts blah blah blah blah blah.

589
00:31:55.880 --> 00:31:58.480
But they're still my favorite band today, and I have

590
00:31:58.519 --> 00:32:02.799
a very unpopular opinion. I actually even like think the

591
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:07.039
saying anger. You know, I think Frantickes one of their

592
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:11.880
best songs. Invisible Kids a really cool song, and like, yeah,

593
00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:17.039
it's different, but who cares? Like James said, you want

594
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:20.039
to listen to Master Puppets, listen to Master Puppets, Like

595
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:22.359
I love kill them all, so I have killed them

596
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:24.200
all so I can listen to it as much as

597
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:29.160
I want, you know. But I also love seventy two Seasons,

598
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:33.640
you know. And you know, and I think Hardwired that

599
00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:37.079
song man that that gives fight Fire with Fire a

600
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:37.960
run for its way.

601
00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:40.000
So like you can go through.

602
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:45.240
This whole like wavy roller coaster ride, experimenting with your

603
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:48.640
sound and evolving as a musician. Like if you're playing

604
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:51.279
the same shit you did in the beginning, then are

605
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:52.720
you really a good musician?

606
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:55.559
Because that means you didn't learn you didn't learn crap

607
00:32:56.279 --> 00:33:01.519
you're not you're not learn Yeah, exactly. You know.

608
00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:06.319
Well, when I was playing guitar as a teenager, I

609
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:08.799
was like experimenting with sounds, and my dad would yell

610
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:13.000
from the other room, and he was partially right in

611
00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:15.359
one thing he said, but he's like, you know, you

612
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:17.359
better give that up because you suck.

613
00:33:17.920 --> 00:33:18.960
And I was like, but.

614
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:21.359
He didn't get what I was really doing. I mean,

615
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.640
he was right, I did suck, but I just wanted

616
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:27.720
to see what I could make. Yeah, I just wanted

617
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:30.039
to see what sounds I could make, and like, ooh,

618
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:31.319
that sounds cool.

619
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:34.599
But isn't that where the beauty comes from? Isn't that

620
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:37.839
where every musician who's ever been a legend, Oh that's

621
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:41.599
fucked up, or that's a don't do that, that's not right,

622
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:44.920
Like that's literally where we're everywhere you're not supposed to

623
00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:48.319
go go there, like right, trying new things, approach it

624
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:52.400
in a fucking completely different way, or a situation.

625
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:57.119
Like Tony Iomi, Like, I mean, anybodykers said.

626
00:33:56.880 --> 00:33:59.559
Well he could never play again, or yeah, he can't

627
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:03.519
do what he created, but he took a bad situation

628
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:06.839
and figured it out a solution and.

629
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:13.920
Fucked saving with right just make the best what you got.

630
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.559
They just played a fucking like.

631
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:21.719
I mean, he's been a drummer in that band longer

632
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:26.199
than most any drummer's been in any band, So like,

633
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:26.920
there you go.

634
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:29.280
It's just like I'm also a surfer.

635
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:33.559
I have mad respect for beth Hamilton and Bethany Hamilton.

636
00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:35.480
I don't know if you know who she is, but

637
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:39.679
if you know the movie Soul Surfer, that's her. That's

638
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:44.719
about her. And she is a surfing champion to this day.

639
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:47.840
And she has one arm, and I'm like in awe

640
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:50.360
of her. I can't even fucking do a good pop

641
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:52.960
up with two arms. How the fuck does she do

642
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:56.199
it with one? And like I'm in awe of it,

643
00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:59.199
you know. And no fear of a shark at all,

644
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:03.159
aymore or ever, you know. And I mean I don't

645
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:05.760
really have to fear either, except a couple of times

646
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:07.000
I saw one and I'm like.

647
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:11.960
Uh, yeah, that's so cool. But that's the point.

648
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:15.880
That's the point of everybody's fear, is like if they

649
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:19.639
just like it's easy for somebody to pick up something,

650
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:22.639
regardless if it's music, a paint brush. You're just trying

651
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:24.679
to fix something and you're not good at it right away,

652
00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:27.400
and you just throw it away like no, man, if

653
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:31.639
it lights your soul on fire, keep going, don't ever stop.

654
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:35.280
You're like, I understand how it feels to like, Okay,

655
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:36.079
I'm not good at.

656
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:39.440
This, like throw it away. But that's that's not the

657
00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:41.679
second you quit, like you're going to fail your way

658
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:44.039
to the top. How that works.

659
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:49.920
Think of some artists that basically are the most famous

660
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:53.320
artists ever, and those people passed away so they never

661
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:57.880
knew they became that. But you know that probably the

662
00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:00.000
same thing. Like some of the art that's some of them,

663
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:03.519
those famous art I'm sure some people think it's ugly

664
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:06.199
or snipid or whatever, and.

665
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:09.639
There's nothing wrong with that. It's it's it's it's perspective.

666
00:36:10.119 --> 00:36:12.480
And I can't stand it when someone's like, oh, well,

667
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:15.239
you don't like this band or you'd never heard of

668
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:17.480
this band, or that band sucks. It's like, no, you

669
00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:20.400
just don't like them. And even if the band does

670
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:21.159
really suck.

671
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:24.079
I love I love.

672
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:27.239
There was this one one band guy that opened up

673
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:29.880
when I was into Eternity, and he opened up for us,

674
00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:32.880
and the whole crowd was like, what the fuck is this?

675
00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:37.199
And I loved it. It was so weird and so

676
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:40.960
fucked up. But that's there's just there's beauty. You can

677
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:43.599
find beauty in any song. And I don't get me wrong,

678
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:46.280
there are songs that I don't listen to either.

679
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:48.599
But I'm not gonna be like, oh that artists suck.

680
00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:53.599
Like there's enough. There's enough success to go around for everyone, you.

681
00:36:53.559 --> 00:36:56.840
Know, no doubt, and there are there is some really

682
00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:00.000
weird shit out there, and some of it became really famous.

683
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:07.800
Look at Devo, okay, and that's a perfect example. Or Okay,

684
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:12.519
so oncle Boingo played him like Gymnasium at Westlake High

685
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:19.039
And now Danny Elfman's like the biggest composer ever in history. Okay,

686
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:21.360
and that shit was weird. It was good, but it

687
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:27.480
was weird, you know. Or David Bowie, Yeah, totally.

688
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:31.079
The weirdest ones are like the icons.

689
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:34.159
You know, how boring would we be if we were

690
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:36.360
all the same, right, And.

691
00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:40.039
Like Jim Marson, he wasn't even wanting to be a musician.

692
00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:43.000
He was a poet and so all his songs are

693
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:46.960
poetry and Jesus, it's like some of the best music ever,

694
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:51.920
you know. So I mean, like I think there should

695
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:54.920
be no rules. Music is music, and whatever you want

696
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:57.440
to play and whatever you want to listen to, and

697
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:00.440
all the gatekeepers they can jump out my back alcony

698
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:03.800
for as as far as I'm concerned, because you know what,

699
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.519
there should be no gatekeeping in music whatsoever.

700
00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:10.440
No, But it's easy to do it when you just

701
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:14.480
start yeah like we always did.

702
00:38:14.960 --> 00:38:16.480
We all did, right, we all went.

703
00:38:16.559 --> 00:38:20.239
Everybody wants, everybody wants to try to fit in yeah to.

704
00:38:20.639 --> 00:38:23.000
I think when you start just doing doing it for

705
00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:26.079
you and being you, like You're never me as a

706
00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:28.880
guitar player. I'm never gonna be Hendrix, I'm never gonna

707
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:31.599
be Jimmy Page, I'm gonna be Jeff Kittlers. And that's

708
00:38:31.599 --> 00:38:33.320
what I'm good at. We're not so going to be

709
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:36.440
And that's where And as soon as I was able

710
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:38.719
to understand that and like go and start just being me,

711
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:43.280
things started happening for me. And uh, it's amazing how

712
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:43.800
that works.

713
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:47.119
And that's one cool thing that's been happening in the.

714
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:50.199
US festivals that you said and I've always happened in

715
00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:53.679
the europe festivals, is like I just did Welcome to

716
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:57.440
Rockville and walk a flock of flame started a mosh pit,

717
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:02.039
like know, it doesn't get much better than that, Like,

718
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:05.599
and you know what I found out there's a lot

719
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:09.559
of genres that maybe I'm not into. When I'm at

720
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:10.760
a live show.

721
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:14.719
Of it, it's at really different, like life changing.

722
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:16.559
I mean, I.

723
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:21.639
Remember one year I was covering Okachobee Fest, which which

724
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:25.960
had Scritics and base Nector were the headliners.

725
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:28.800
Yes, I love Nectar.

726
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:32.719
Okay, so check this out before going to that.

727
00:39:33.559 --> 00:39:38.360
I'm like, if I want DJ, I'll go to the nightclub,

728
00:39:38.480 --> 00:39:43.760
like I'm not going to concert. But exactly I went,

729
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:47.000
and I'm like, oh my god, I get it now

730
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:50.440
because like I would listen to that stuff in nightclub.

731
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:51.880
I'm like, I'm not going to a concert.

732
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:53.239
But then I went different.

733
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:57.800
I get it, Like it was like unreal and I

734
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:00.000
wasn't even on the drugs at everybody.

735
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:01.880
Else and neither am I.

736
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:05.320
But those like there are some DJs that I call

737
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:08.360
I don't know what the genre of DJ it is,

738
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:12.400
but I call it heavy metal rave because bass Nector

739
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:16.159
and artists like a There's this DJ chick and her

740
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:17.199
name is res.

741
00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:21.400
Z z z z or whatever and Whipped Cream.

742
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:25.119
There's so many that are like I headbang at raves

743
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:27.639
because it's so heavy, Like it's crazy.

744
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:31.559
At the same festival with Khalifa was performing and there

745
00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:34.679
were mash bits and headbanging going on as he's passing

746
00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:36.000
around his joints.

747
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:39.880
That's amazing, you know, So it's leading into another.

748
00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:46.000
It's just like it doesn't really matter, like especially the

749
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:50.199
vibe of a live show, like you know, it's I

750
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:52.679
don't care who I'm seeing, it's a live show and

751
00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:54.760
it just makes you feel good and you escape all

752
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:56.039
the world's problems.

753
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:57.559
Yeah, Like you know.

754
00:40:57.719 --> 00:40:59.800
Now I'm back in the States. I haven't turned on

755
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:04.519
the news yet, but I've been gone exactly. I've been

756
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:08.880
gone for a month and a half. I don't even

757
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:12.239
as far as I'm concerned. I'm surprised I came back

758
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:14.159
and there was still a country because I don't even

759
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:16.519
know what the hell was going on for the past month.

760
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:20.199
And that's brutal, okay, And the point is that's the

761
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:23.719
beauty of the music is I didn't have to obsess.

762
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:26.880
I didn't you know, I didn't have to focus on it.

763
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:31.320
And it's funny too, like speaking about different types of music.

764
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:34.920
You know, I'll go out and do these metal festivals.

765
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.800
And then I come home and every Friday night near

766
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:41.599
me there's a place that has live Latin music and

767
00:41:41.679 --> 00:41:42.400
I go there.

768
00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:47.519
I love that, Like, you know, you don't have.

769
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:50.000
To be in a box, and artists shouldn't be in

770
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.800
a box. People put artists in box all the time,

771
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:56.719
and like, no, that's why I don't even give a

772
00:41:56.840 --> 00:42:00.360
fuck what genre a band is, Like, don't tell me

773
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:02.880
what genre you are, you know, I don't want to know.

774
00:42:03.320 --> 00:42:05.360
But I do want to know, is how you view

775
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:09.400
your band, like how you view your music with I'll

776
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:11.960
say a lot of interviews without using a genre.

777
00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:14.719
You know, Hey tell me how you.

778
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:19.039
Would describe your music to me, you know, And so

779
00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:22.840
here there's your chance you describe your music to me

780
00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:24.679
without a genre.

781
00:42:26.559 --> 00:42:28.440
I will will, I will go.

782
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:32.920
I was just gonna say, it's uh, it takes you

783
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:40.760
an emotional journey and uh, it's haunting, melodic, uplifting shows

784
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:45.320
you're worth. We are a little bit of for everybody.

785
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:48.960
If there will be sending with this record, Like I

786
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:53.159
love how somebody from anything can get something out of

787
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:56.880
this record. And if you like Partis, if you like

788
00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:02.360
slow groom it, there's something there for everybody. And we

789
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:12.039
we the limits and chic freedom and and just create

790
00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:16.719
create a top a journey for somebody that's gonna gonna

791
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:19.360
leave them better than when they started.

792
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:22.199
I love it. And how do you want to add

793
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:23.039
to that, Amanda?

794
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:25.280
Oh, just just saying that.

795
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:29.480
Every my whole life, every time I'd go somewhere that

796
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:32.039
was silly and people would just be like no, no, no, no,

797
00:43:32.000 --> 00:43:35.079
that's stupid or no no, no no. That's literally where

798
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:40.679
all of it's coming from. I'm taking it well sometimes

799
00:43:41.079 --> 00:43:44.599
or writing from experience too. I've started writing from personal

800
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:49.039
experience and it's it's like crazy how it explodes onto

801
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:49.639
the papers.

802
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:51.239
So I love it.

803
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:54.199
That means it's being real, That's what it means. Yeah,

804
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:58.800
So tell everybody how they can reach out to you,

805
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:02.519
connect to you on socials. Uh, you know, check out

806
00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:07.599
your shows. You have the album release show, and let's

807
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:09.800
give them the biggest.

808
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:13.000
Yeah, the biggest thing is going to www dot Famous

809
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:16.800
Strangers band dot com. Everything you'll need is on that website.

810
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:21.119
All our links, all our show information, merch anything you

811
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:23.519
need to know about us is on there, and it'll

812
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:25.480
take you the links to everywhere else that you want

813
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:25.679
to go.

814
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:31.000
Nice and then The self titled debut drops on the

815
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:34.320
twenty first, first day of months All Warped Tour.

816
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:38.199
Uh and uh.

817
00:44:38.159 --> 00:44:41.079
Man, everybody's got to check it out because your music's badass,

818
00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:44.960
and you guys are badass. Now that's what I found out.

819
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:48.400
Like that to me, that's what is that to me,

820
00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:50.119
that's what an interview is. I want to find out

821
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:53.199
what you're all about. The music's easy, let's fine.

822
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:56.239
Well, appreciate you. You're you're great. Back at you, man,

823
00:44:56.280 --> 00:45:00.320
you're badass. You got great energy, great vibes, and uh, yeah,

824
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:02.679
I appreciate what you're doing. Man, it's it's really good.

825
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:03.719
And yeah, thank you for.

826
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:07.679
Your story, your beliefs, your morals, where you want to go,

827
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:11.039
where what you think world needs in music? And it's

828
00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:13.239
very healthy and we need more people like you.

829
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:16.000
That's great, no doubt, no doubt, no doubt.

830
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:18.480
Keep the arts in schools. They keep trying to take

831
00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:20.320
them out over here. I don't know about up there,

832
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:27.079
but you need the art school. Well, you guys keep rocking,

833
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:32.400
and I look forward to seeing a lot more of you,

834
00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:35.880
to meet you hopefully soon one day. Yeah, let's do it.

835
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:42.559
Come on over to Montreal. Yes, all right, thanks for

836
00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:44.079
being on the adventures of pipe Man.

837
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:51.719
Thank you, Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipelin.

838
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:55.800
I'm w for c UI Radio.