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Oct. 5, 2026

From Partying to Parenthood: Eyes Set To Kill on Music, Aftershock 2026, and Growing Up

From Partying to Parenthood: Eyes Set To Kill on Music, Aftershock 2026, and Growing Up

Pipeman sits down with Alexia, Anissa, and Brandon from Eyes Set To Kill at Aftershock Festival to discuss the evolution of the band, their experiences across the years, family life on tour, memorable moments (including a wild story about headbanging-induced injury), nostalgia for MySpace, and what's next for the band. The conversation navigates the changing festival landscape, connections with fans across generations, and the enduring power of music and togetherness.Main Topics Covered

  • Returning to Aftershock: reflections on 2014 vs. 2026
  • Band and personal evolutions, family, and musical growth
  • Favorite bands and festival inspirations
  • Memorable on-the-road stories (including an extreme concert injury)
  • Dynamics of being siblings and bandmates
  • Reality TV guilty pleasures and media authenticity
  • The significance of MySpace and social media in band promotion
  • Upcoming music releases and tour plans
  • Connecting with fans across generations
Key Discussions & StoriesLife Then and Now
  • Alexia, Anissa, and Brandon reflect on performing at Aftershock before (2014) and now, noting changes in festival culture and their own lives (02:13).
    • Alexia: “2014, I didn’t have a baby. Now I have a baby, and I think I’m gonna bring her here so she can experience all this…”
Festival Vibes and Band Favorites
  • Eyes Set To Kill discusses bucket list bands at Aftershock, excitement over sharing stages with childhood inspirations (03:08):
    • Alexia and Brandon are huge Finch fans; Brandon shares his love for Coheed and Cambria.
    • Anissa is excited to see Underoath, Senses Fail, and Alexis on Fire.
Generational Connections & Changing Priorities
  • The band and Pipeman reflect on a shift from partying to family-friendliness at festivals, with touring members now bringing families along (05:20).
    • “Everyone has families now… you have to be a good role model now for your kids” — Anissa
Wildest Tour Stories
  • Brandon: Once signed a baby’s head with a Sharpie on Warped Tour (08:07).
  • Anissa: Suffered a severe headbanging injury resulting in emergency eye surgery (08:46). The full story includes migraines, a popping sensation behind the eye, urgent care, and a dramatic hospital experience.
Sibling Dynamics in the Band
  • Alexia and Anissa talk about growing up close and naturally forming a band:
    • “Alexia: I think since we kind of grew up doing everything together and taking care of each other, it felt natural to start a band together too.” (13:43)
  • Brandon shares his history of joining the band from the Phoenix music scene (15:11).
New Projects & Tours
  • Eyes Set To Kill has been working on a new album, with several songs written and recorded, and a tour scheduled for December: “Guilty Pleasures Tour” featuring fan favorites (16:52).
Guilty Pleasures & Reality TV
  • Brandon confesses a soft spot for reality TV like Jersey Shore and The Bachelorette, leading the group into a candid conversation with Pipeman about how reality shows are often scripted (17:22).
Social Media & MySpace Nostalgia
  • The band reminisces about the MySpace era — booking tours, connecting with fans, and how those early social mediums shaped direct artist-fan interactions (23:20).
    • Alexia: “It was like the beginning, the beginning of like the artist connecting with the fans directly.”
Looking Ahead
  • Eyes Set To Kill shares their official Instagram (@eyessettokillofficial) and TikTok (ESTK), mentioning favorite TikToks that show their journey from MySpace-era teens to now (21:51), (22:21).
Notable Quotes
  • “[Aftershock] feels like the crowd, like they treat each other well. Everyone’s genuinely just out there to have a good time and taking care of each other.” — Brandon (01:38)
  • “More having fun, doing your thing, and less partying and becoming stupid.” — Pipeman (04:44)
  • “Music unites people… that’s why it’s so important to teach your children.” — Pipeman (06:33)
  • “You have to be a good role model now for your kids. So no more partying.” — Anissa (05:12)
  • “I just remember signing a baby with a Sharpie…” — Brandon (08:07)
  • “I had a blood clot behind my eye… we were on our last song, headbanging, and I felt a popping noise behind my eye.” — Anissa (08:46)
  • “We would book tours through MySpace, just talking to promoters.” — Alexia (23:20)
Resources & Links Mentioned
  • Eyes Set To Kill Instagram:@eyessettokillofficial
  • TikTok: ESTK
  • Upcoming Tour: December’s “Guilty Pleasures Tour” (featuring past fan favorites)


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Hey, you're listening to Adventure on W4CY Radio.

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This is the Pipe Man here on the Adventure's Pipe

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Man W4CY Radio, and I'm here with.

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Eyesight's Akil. Nice.

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My name's Alexia.

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I'm Brandon.

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And I'm Anissa.

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Very cool here at Aftershock. Actually, it's not very cool.

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It's very hot. Okay. It is hot.

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But we are at Aftershock. And so is this your

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first time playing Aftershock?

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It's our second time, but first time with Brandon.

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Oh, okay. That's cool. My first time.

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We played in 2014 was our first time. See, that's

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a while ago. A couple years ago.

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Yeah, I've been doing them since the beginning, too. But

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they all, like, swirl around your head, right? Everything you do,

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it's like... I'm impressed that you can remember when it was.

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Because I wouldn't.

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The only reason I know is because... I mean, sorry.

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The last interview we did, Caleb was.

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I said, 2013? He's like, no, it was 2014. And

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I was like, oh, okay.

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Oh, so you did your preparation for my interview.

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So, yeah. So I was kind of prepared.

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Nice.

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So....

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What's first you guys i want to ask what you

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see different now compared to then and you what's it

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feel like to be here at aftershock what was it

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what's it like out there for you.

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It was a lot of fun the there's just so

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much like energy everybody's that feels like the crowd like

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they treat each other well it's not we've played shows

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and stuff before where it's Not like that, you know?

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It's like everybody's genuinely just out there to have a

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good time and taking care of each other.

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And you can be whoever you want.

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You know, just you do you.

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Yeah.

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No outsiders. Yeah.

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And for you guys, what's it been like in 2026

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compared to 2014?

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2014... I didn't have a baby. Now I have a baby.

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And I think I'm going to bring her here so

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she can experience all this.

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Nice.

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So it does feel a little different because I feel

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like we party a little more back then. And now

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we're just like here to have a good show, enjoy

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some bands, even some like bucket list bands for me.

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I was really excited for some.

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I want to hear what those are from all of you.

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Me and Brandon are obsessed with Finch.

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Yeah, we just saw Finch, and they sound so good live.

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They're so awesome. I have been a fan of Coheed

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and Cambria since I was in high school. I have

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a dragonfly tattoo on my arm that I got pretty

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much right after I turned 18, and that was for

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Coheed's first album. It had a dragonfly on the cover,

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so I'm really excited to see Coheed later.

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I was going to say the stage that we're playing,

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the point stage, we were really excited to play that

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stage when we found out all the bands that are

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playing are like bands that we grew up listening to

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in like middle school and high school, like Under Oath, Finch, Senses.

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Veil, Alexis on Fire. I've never seen them.

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I'm excited to see them.

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But yeah, so it's cool to like be on a

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stage with bands that we kind of like looked up

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to growing up.

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Yeah, it's cool.

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And since it's failed, they're pretty cool. But to the

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point of what I was saying to you before, I

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was really blown away by them because I've interviewed them

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several times throughout the years, and they were naming off

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the festivals and what year. And I wouldn't have been

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able to do that. I was impressed by that. Because

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it does all swirl in your head after a while. Especially,

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think about it, 12 years since you played Aftershock. There's

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a lot of shit that happened in 12 years, you know?

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vibe with the trees and everything. It's kind of like

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welcoming and cool. And then in here, this is definitely

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different than 2014, this media artist lounge in here. And

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to the point of what you were saying before about

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the partying, I always laugh because that drip bar always

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has a long line, not the bar bar. Like, more

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people come for the drip bar than the bar bar.

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That's a sign of exactly what you're talking about. More

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having fun, doing your thing, and less partying and becoming stupid.

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Well, I think.

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A lot of the bands here, you know, have been

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doing it for a long time. And it's like a

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lot of us are 40s or older. And 20 years ago,

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all the bands were 20 years younger.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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We've learned.

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Everyone has families now.

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Well, I don't, but.

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You guys do.

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So, I mean, you have to be a good role

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model now for your kids. So it's like no more partying.

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Yeah, you do see a lot of bands that are

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here and like their family and their kids and stuff

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came with them.

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A lot of times. And I think that's so cool.

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Like I was up on stage yesterday for Sublime. And

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right next to me, under the inflatable dog, was a

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kid sitting there watching the show from the stage, blocked

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by the inflatable dog and just having a great time.

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I think it's cool because.

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These days, like you were saying, it's multi-generational to come

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to these things. My dad would have never came here.

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And I wouldn't have wanted them to. So it's like

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kind of cool. You go out there and you see

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people with their kids, their grandkids, and just we're all

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together for one purpose, the love of the music and

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the love of each other.

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Because there are no outsiders here. Yeah.

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And that's what's cool. We are the role model for

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the rest of the world. That's my opinion. Like, think

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about it. If the rest of the world was more

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like us in here, we wouldn't have all these stupid

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problems and we wouldn't have any leaders being able to

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divide us either. We would just all love each other

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for who we are.

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You do you.

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And that's kind of it. That's the way it should be.

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That's what music does. Music unites people, you know? And, uh,

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I think that's why it's so important to teach your children,

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you know? And like, especially when they try to take

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it out of schools, arts out of schools, you know, music,

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some of the best therapy there is.

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Like, I know.

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It's cool to see like moms watching us because they're

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like introducing their daughters to us.

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And I'm like, that doesn't even look like your daughter.

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But like they're sharing that they're like of our band

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or they have a connection with the music and they

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share that with each other too. It's cool to see

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families be that way and have that connection instead of

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in the old days when it's like, Parents don't even

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understand why their kid's listening to whatever.

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So....

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Turn that noise off. Yeah, yeah.

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You know?

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And you gave a good point, too. Like, it's like,

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that's how I am as a parent.

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It's like, they are human beings. Like, listen to them.

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Maybe they have an idea. Maybe they're smarter than you.

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Most of the time, kids are smarter than adults. Because

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we're a bunch of idiots. So one story, good or bad,

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in your whole musical journey, all three of you, what

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would that be?

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Are you looking at me?

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She's looking at you.

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I'm drawing a blank. I have one.

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The first thing that comes to my mind is this

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was at a Warped Tour. This was when I was

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originally in the band, and I just remember signing a

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baby with a Sharpie. And that was just a really

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surreal thing to me. It was like, did I just

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sign a baby? But, I mean, that was a long

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time ago.

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Not many people can say that. Yeah.

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That's like Talladega Nights.

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Wasn't he, like, signing a baby's head?

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Yeah, totally.

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Oh, I was going to say, for me, it was.

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Probably when my eye exploded from headbanging.

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Holy shit.

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I had a blood clot behind my eye.

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I didn't know.

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And I was getting headaches on tour. This was 2000.

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When was this?

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2010? Ish?

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2010. Maybe 2010. I don't know if you know this story.

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Did you know about this?

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Well, we were on tour. We played a festival in Colorado.

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And the next day, we were going to be jumping

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on a tour with....

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Who's that band? Nonpoint? Nonpoint?

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The band from Florida, Nonpoint with Isaiah?

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I think so. I think that was the name of

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the band.

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But anyways, we had a few shows, just headliners on

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the way to a tour. Okay. and I was getting, like,

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really bad migraines and headaches, and I just thought I was,

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I don't know, maybe dehydrated, or I was getting, like,

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a weird feeling, like, around my nose, but anyways, long

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story short, we were playing, we were on our last song,

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and I was, like, headbanging, and then I felt up, like,

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I heard, like, a popping noise, and I felt a

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popping noise behind my eye, like, almost like my eye

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popped out.

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Yeah, that's not a good noise.

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Which kind of in a way it did, and I

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looked in the mirror after we played, like I ran

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to the green room, and I was like, I don't look,

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this looks, like my eye looks weird. Something's wrong. But

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we still drove that night, and I woke up with

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a black eye. And I didn't know what was going on. Wow.

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I was like, did someone kick me in their sleep?

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But anyways, I went to the urgent care and they

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were like, you have a blood clot behind your eye.

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They were like, it might be a tumor or something

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behind your eye. But anyways, I had to go to, oh,

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we were in Missouri. And the city we were in

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had the best optometrists, best eye doctors.

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In the nation.

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Really?

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So they were able to, like, do, like, emergency surgery.

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And they had, they, I could show you a picture.

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It's really gruesome. I'll show you later after this interview.

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But anyways.

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It's better if she shows it to me. Yeah.

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You didn't know about this? I had an eye patch

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for a while and they were like, they also didn't

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know what it was. They were like, it's like a

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freak accident that happened.

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Like anyways, the blood was like pushing my eye forward

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and they had to like break like my tendons and

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like my nose so that there could be room for like, so.

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You're truly a badass, but yeah.

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So that story definitely is one that I will never

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forget from being on tour and just going too crazy

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on stage.

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That's the reason people should see you guys live right there.

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That's metal. Totally. For sure.

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And, like, you never know when it might happen again,

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so you want to be at every show. What were

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you going to say?

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Oh, nothing.

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Just that it was traumatic. It was.

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Because she's my sister, so I was, like.

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I felt helpless. Like, I couldn't... I wanted to help her.

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And then there was also a point when, like, they

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took her to the back in the hospital... And all

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you hear is screaming. She's like, like, it sounded like

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someone was being murdered. And that was my sister's voice.

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It was just traumatic for everyone.

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More you.

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They had to do surgery on me, like emergency surgery.

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So they couldn't like fully, they couldn't put me under.

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And they.

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Yeah, you have to be awake.

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They couldn't numb me.

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They would try to, like, numb my area as much

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as they could, but, like, I could feel them when they, like,

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broke my nose and, like... They basically had to break

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her nose to make room, make space for that blood

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to flow again.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's really... That's freaking wild. Like, I wonder if

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anybody else that's ever happened to headbang.

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I know.

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I know.

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You might be the only one ever.

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I mean, I'm not proud of it.

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You should be.

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You should be proud of it because you got through it.

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Here you are. And, like, it makes you a badass.

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Okay, fine.

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See?

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So, speaking of the sisters, I always wonder how you

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do that in a band because I could never be

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in a band with Any of my siblings.

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I'd kill them.

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Are you close with any of them, or are they

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all kind of.

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I'm close-ish, but we're also different.

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Oh, okay.

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And that's the point.

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But, you know, a lot of siblings, like, even when

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they're close, my kids, they would probably kill each other, too.

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They want to kill each other at family get-togethers, but

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they're really close.

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I think since we kind of grew up.

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Doing everything together and taking care of each other.

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Uh, it was just, it felt natural to start a

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band together too.

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See, that's pretty cool.

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Now, did you, did you have to decide who was

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going to do what? Like, cause I've heard that with

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a lot of siblings in bands. It's like one of

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them had to acquiesce and play a different instrument.

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I feel, I feel like it naturally happened. I started

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learning guitar, and then she started learning bass. And then

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we actually both started to form our own bands separately.

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But then it didn't work out for either of us,

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so then we just.

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See, the one cool thing about being siblings is at

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least you know whether you like them or not, you

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can 100% trust them, which isn't always the case. Yeah.

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You know?

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And you know each other, so you can kind of

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talk to each other differently than other people can.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And how do you come in? Oh, go ahead.

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There's some times when we, you know, in the office,

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do you watch the office?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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When, like, Jim looks at the camera, when he's, he's like,

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it's his way of saying, like, I know you're thinking.

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What I'm thinking. Yeah. I feel like we have that

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kind of look with each other.

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Kind of like twins.

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Yeah, yeah.

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It's twins are definitely like that. And how did you

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come into the mix?

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So I originally started in I Set To Kill. It

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was probably like 2005. I'm bad with time, but it

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was somewhere around there. And I Set To Kill had

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already been like a pretty well-established band in the local scene,

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like where we lived in Phoenix at that time.

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It was just insane.

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There were a lot of bands blowing up out of

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there that are still, you know, playing and doing everything

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today anyways. So I was familiar with I Set To Kill.

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I was in a different band at the time. We

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had played some shows together and basically half of the

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band at that time left the band. And so they

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needed a new screamer vocalist, um, a new drummer and

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another guitar player.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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So then, I mean, I, I think I went to

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like one band practice just to kind of, you know,

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audition and see how it went.

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And, um, and then that's what happened.

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So yeah, just kind of all being around each other

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in the local scene and, you know, they had members

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leave and I just, I wanted to jump on because,

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you know, at that time I said to kill was, uh,

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just really big in the local scene. I was like, man,

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this is an exciting opportunity, you know?

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Yeah.

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And then we pretty much started touring like after I

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joined the band.

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I love it. So now what are you going to

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do next? That's a great question.

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Well, we're, we've been working on an album, um, this year,

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just kind of piecing songs together and, uh, Um, we

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have a handful of songs like written and recorded and, um,

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I don't know when we'll be able to get stuff

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out to listen to, but, um, we're excited about that.

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December.

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We're playing a tour. We're doing a tour in December.

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Nice.

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And we're playing, it's called the guilty pleasures tour.

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Um, and it's going to be all songs that we're

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playing are all going to be fan favorites.

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Nice.

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I said to kill from past records.

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So that'll be fun.

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I think that's a great idea.

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So now, speaking of guilty pleasures, what are each one

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of your guilty pleasures?

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Anybody? Anybody? Anywise.

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I will say, like, I don't get sucked into it often,

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but I can be a sucker for reality TV.

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Like.

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Not in recent years, but I used to like get

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super into like Jersey shore and the bachelorette. And I've

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just lots of different reality shows.

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I don't know.

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It, it kept me interested, but I, I don't watch

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as much of that anymore.

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You know, what's funny about Jersey shores. I'm from Jersey

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shore and it didn't become like that till after that show.

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Yeah.

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Cause those people weren't even from the Jersey shore. Um, And, like,

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you remember Angelina, the one that they kind of bullied off?

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Yep.

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Well, I was doing a gig one time, and I

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was hanging with her. I interviewed her, but then we

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hung out the rest of the night. Nothing like those

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other people tried to paint her eyes. And that's the

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funny thing about the reality shows, is, like, they're not

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really reality at all. They're scripted, too. Like, even the

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music shows, like, I got a couple people on The Voice...

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They were put on The Voice. They didn't get on

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The Voice.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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There's one that, in particular, that you'll never see a

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blind audition because there was none because the chairs weren't working,

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so they just put her on the show.

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Mm-hmm.

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You know?

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And it's all, like, image with that. Like, she had

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an image, and it was like, that's what they focus on.

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And the winner, I know her, too, of that season

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because she's from our town. She had just gone on

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tour with fallout boy.

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Oh yeah. They're kind of a big deal. That's why

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she won.

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Cause they actually changed the rules of the voting so

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that like she would get a lot more votes because

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they were all like buying the singles and stuff like

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everybody in the bands and their followers.

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So yeah. But, uh, It is interesting.

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I know somebody that was on The Bachelor got kicked

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off because, or voted off because she wouldn't say what

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they told her to say.

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They said, you're going to say this? Nope. Voted off

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that night. Yep.

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But I think that is part of the addiction because

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it is still created as dramatic and everybody can relate

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to it too. It's true.

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It's still a story to obsess over.

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Exactly and we need like nowadays we need stuff like

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that to obsess over opposed to something that you can't

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really relate to you know like you can really relate

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to some of that stuff even though it may be

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a story we probably all live that every day So

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that's why we love it, you know?

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So you guys should start your own reality show.

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Yeah, we should.

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Sure.

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I don't know what kind of drama we could start.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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I don't feel like we are really that dramatic anymore.

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It would have to be scripted. They'd have to say like, hey,

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you should do this or you should say this.

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I was on the Vanilla Ice project because he's a

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friend of mine. That was, it was his event that

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was at with Angelina, but, and we were, Do you

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know that show? Like, okay, he does these construction jobs

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and redoes these houses and stuff. And we were digging

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up concrete, and it was styrofoam. And then they bring

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the real people in to do it, but they're not

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the ones on film.

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Yeah.

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So it really is happening. It's just not the people

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you see.

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Doing it that's happening. It's happening. Yep.

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And then we staged a thing where he was riding

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a bulldozer through the house. We were riding a bulldozer

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through the house, and he walks in and starts yelling

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at everybody because we just drove a bulldozer.

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Through his house.

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But it's entertaining. That's what it should be. That's what

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music is. That's what live shows are about. I think

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live shows are about entertaining people. It's not just the music.

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We could sit at home and listen to music. you

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know but we come here for the vibe the atmosphere

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the togetherness and to get entertained anything else you want

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to tell the listeners and uh tell them your socials

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how to check out your music and they have to

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buy your merch or they can't listen to my show.

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Nice uh instagram i said to kill official um what

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else is there tiktok.

461
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Estk what's your most embarrassing tiktok Our most what? Embarrassing TikTok.

462
00:22:08.450 --> 00:22:11.079
Do you have an embarrassing one?

463
00:22:11.380 --> 00:22:11.650
No.

464
00:22:12.099 --> 00:22:12.819
Oh, well, that's good.

465
00:22:13.019 --> 00:22:15.059
But they're funny. We have funny ones that we make.

466
00:22:15.480 --> 00:22:16.420
So what's your favorite?

467
00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:21.559
Maybe, I don't know.

468
00:22:21.579 --> 00:22:26.140
One that you did of our, of like now and then,

469
00:22:26.220 --> 00:22:30.140
like it showed our, it showed us from like, I

470
00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:33.500
don't know, 20 years ago. On MySpace and stuff, and

471
00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:36.279
then it flashed forward to us now.

472
00:22:36.819 --> 00:22:37.240
Nice.

473
00:22:37.259 --> 00:22:38.779
Because it's just crazy.

474
00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:42.160
You don't really think about how the years went by.

475
00:22:42.339 --> 00:22:43.700
It goes quick, doesn't it?

476
00:22:43.789 --> 00:22:48.410
Yeah. Like, I can't even imagine that. I don't even

477
00:22:48.470 --> 00:22:52.849
imagine 20 years ago. Like, it's like, it's wild. And

478
00:22:54.049 --> 00:22:56.569
speaking of MySpace, I wonder if Tom's going to be

479
00:22:56.630 --> 00:22:58.529
our friend still when it comes back.

480
00:22:59.329 --> 00:23:02.109
Top eight. There you go. Back to the top eight.

481
00:23:02.470 --> 00:23:03.430
Can't get rid of the top eight.

482
00:23:03.450 --> 00:23:05.750
It's got to be at the top. Prepping for your

483
00:23:05.829 --> 00:23:07.329
new MySpace account.

484
00:23:08.789 --> 00:23:09.650
We did a lot on.

485
00:23:10.029 --> 00:23:12.869
I know in the early days we promoted so much

486
00:23:13.049 --> 00:23:14.430
on MySpace.

487
00:23:14.869 --> 00:23:19.160
It was great for artists. You guys did more.

488
00:23:18.980 --> 00:23:20.259
Of it than I did.

489
00:23:20.299 --> 00:23:23.799
We would book tours through MySpace just talking to promoters.

490
00:23:23.859 --> 00:23:28.359
Mostly Nisa and our other singer. We would come from

491
00:23:28.500 --> 00:23:31.430
one venue to the next and We'd be like, we

492
00:23:31.470 --> 00:23:33.650
have to be back on MySpace to talk to the fans.

493
00:23:34.369 --> 00:23:35.730
We were obsessed with it.

494
00:23:36.190 --> 00:23:37.990
It was a good way to promote artists.

495
00:23:38.210 --> 00:23:42.109
It was like the beginning of the artists connecting with

496
00:23:42.130 --> 00:23:43.910
the fans directly.

497
00:23:43.910 --> 00:23:47.640
100%. I think it's pretty cool. I'm really curious of

498
00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:49.559
what it's going to be like when it comes back.

499
00:23:50.259 --> 00:23:53.460
It should be retro. It should kind of come back retro,

500
00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:56.480
just like it was. Like, you go on and your

501
00:23:56.569 --> 00:23:58.049
profile's still there. Yeah.

502
00:23:59.670 --> 00:24:02.349
You see some of the people walking around here, and

503
00:24:02.390 --> 00:24:05.049
they look like one of the profiles now.

504
00:24:05.369 --> 00:24:09.549
But they're younger. That's funny. So it's like the whole resurgence.

505
00:24:10.269 --> 00:24:12.369
Well, that's everything. That's music, too.

506
00:24:12.390 --> 00:24:16.000
That's why you have somebody like Limp Bizkit headlined tonight.

507
00:24:16.039 --> 00:24:18.640
That's a resurgence of another time. So cool.

508
00:24:20.019 --> 00:24:22.960
I think it's, we were talking about it last night,

509
00:24:23.859 --> 00:24:25.819
I think it has a lot to do with that

510
00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:30.190
the younger, younger kids are like, they want something real

511
00:24:30.289 --> 00:24:33.529
because so many bands are using formulas now and, like,

512
00:24:33.609 --> 00:24:35.450
not being real about it. Yeah.

513
00:24:35.609 --> 00:24:35.990
You know?

514
00:24:36.269 --> 00:24:36.430
Yeah.

515
00:24:36.490 --> 00:24:39.289
So, like, let's bring back the time when it was real.

516
00:24:39.630 --> 00:24:39.910
Yes.

517
00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:41.470
I could totally see that.

518
00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:44.759
Yeah. There you go. So, you guys rock.

519
00:24:44.779 --> 00:24:44.859
Yeah.

520
00:24:45.450 --> 00:24:48.309
Thanks for being here at Aftershock. Thank you. Thanks for

521
00:24:48.369 --> 00:24:50.329
hanging out and having us. It's been fun chatting.

522
00:24:50.630 --> 00:24:52.910
Hey, my pleasure, and I love hearing that. Thanks for

523
00:24:52.930 --> 00:24:54.269
being on the Adventures of Pipe Man.

524
00:24:54.710 --> 00:24:55.190
Thank you.

525
00:24:57.430 --> 00:25:01.720
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man

526
00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:03.359
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