Sept. 21, 2026
Future Palace Discusses Berlin’s Music Scene and Deep Topics at Louder Than Life Festival
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RSS Feed In this episode, Pipeman sits down with members of Future Palace at Louder Than Life to discuss the Berlin music scene, the importance of creative spaces, the ongoing global challenges facing arts and mental health, and how societal divisions connect to music, politics, and the climate crisis. The episode also highlights Future Palace’s commitment to making meaningful art and their latest album release, while reflecting on how music festivals and community can offer hope and connection amid challenging times.Main Topics Covered
- The creative and international spirit of Berlin’s music scene
- The importance of preserving music venues and creative spaces
- The erosion of arts education and its societal impact
- The dangers of artificial intelligence in the arts
- Rising political polarization in Germany and the US
- The unifying power of music festivals
- Mental health awareness and advocacy within music
- The existential threat of climate change and the need for collective action
- Future Palace’s new album "Resurgence" and upcoming tour plans
- Growing up in Berlin: The city's international, creative energy and the role of venues like Air Wegelände and Rocket Stage in nurturing young talent 01:21.
- The challenge of gentrification and economic forces threatening cultural spaces 01:50.
- Reflecting on transformative music education experiences and the critical role such opportunities play in young lives 03:16.
- The decline of art and music classes in US schools and the risks to holistic development 03:04.
- How creativity is essential for emotional expression and balance in life 04:26.
- Art as the essence of humanity and why AI-generated art falls short of genuine creative expression 05:06.
- Frustration over the proliferation of AI-generated music, visual art, and advertisements 05:49.
- The ethical concerns and intellectual property issues related to AI scraping from real artists 07:42.
- Political climate shifts in Germany and the US, and the vanishing "middle ground" in public discourse 09:02.
- The need for open, brave conversations and learning from people with different perspectives 10:10.
- Music festivals as havens from division, where all identities are welcome and community flourishes 10:38.
- Using the stage and music as platforms to discuss mental health and other important issues 12:26.
- Pipeman's proposal to solve the world's problems with one huge, leaderless metal festival 16:42.
- Stories of global friendship at festivals like Wacken 16:03.
- Recognition that extreme weather at festivals across Europe and the US is proof of accelerating climate change 18:32.
- The inevitability of collective crisis leading to new bonds and cooperation 20:19.
- Future Palace’s commitment to climate action, including veganism 20:48.
- Disagreeing with the notion that musicians should "just play," emphasizing art’s role in social commentary and personal expression 13:22.
- Critique of narcissism and ego in the music industry vs. using a platform for positive impact 14:35.
- The band’s lyrical focus on deep topics: climate change, social issues, and mental health 22:00.
- New album: Resurgence released on July 31 22:12.
- Encouragement to check their socials for upcoming US tour dates and support live music 22:26.
- “The underground music scene [in Berlin] is so cool... there’s so much great music that comes out of there.” — Pipeman 00:57
- "Art is honest, and that's dangerous for some, you know... Art is what we need. I think art is the definition of what a human being is to me. And that's why I hate AI so much." 05:00
- “If you do music with AI, you might as well just sell cars, because what is your point?” 07:24
- “Music is the best therapy there is for you, the artist, and the listener.” — Pipeman 13:52
- "Let’s connect at shows in real life because numbers and digital stuff is not real life." 22:33
- Future Palace’s new album "Resurgence" (released July 31)
- Future Palace social media – check for tour announcements and updates
- Louder Than Life Festival
- Wacken Festival
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Hi, you're listening to Adventure on W4CY Radio.
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This is the Pipe Man here on the Adventure's Pipe
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Man W4CY Radio, and I'm here with.
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Future Palace from Berlin, Germany.
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Nice, here at Louder Than Life. I just came a
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couple months ago from your country, and now you're over here.
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I was doing coverage at Wacken.
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Excuse me, how's the jet lag?
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I was doing coverage at Wacken.
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Ah, Wacken. Yeah, we've been there. That was our album
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release day, so that was crazy. Yeah, that was a
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busy day. Wow.
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I got to tell you, too, like, I've been to Berlin,
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but before I went to Berlin, I couldn't imagine to
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be the way it was. It was freaking amazing. And
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the underground music scene there is so cool. Like being
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over here, you know, we don't get a description of
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what it's like over there. We just think of the
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stupid propaganda bull crap. But I went there. I was like,
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it was one of my favorite cities in the whole world.
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It's so cool. And there's so much great music that
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comes out of there.
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It's true. It's a very creative place to be.
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We were all born there and raised there, which is
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rare in Berlin because we have so many different people.
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It's a very international, extremely international city. And that's the
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fun of it, I think, because you don't get bored ever.
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You get so many different influences and you have so
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many opportunities also in Berlin. If you want to study
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something creative, there are so many universities and there are
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so many art galleries and.
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But sadly right now it's.
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Going a little bit away because of money and economy.
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They want to get rid of the Air Wegelände which
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is one of the most culturally important places in Berlin
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because all the clubs are there. So many bands played
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their first shows there. that our first show was in
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a club that actually shut down. And it was a
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rock club, Rocket Sage, we loved it there. It was
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such an important spot for finding yourself, especially in this
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metal rock scene. I went there every Thursday when I
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was in my early 20s. It's really important to keep
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these places alive because this is where young people connect
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and identify themselves. I would really hope that the rock
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scene in Berlin would also have a resurgence.
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I couldn't agree more. And we're having some of that
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happen here in the States. Thank God for the Danny
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Wimmer festivals. As you can see, keeping this scene alive
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because there's a lot of iconic venues in the States
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that are shutting down that have been around forever. And
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we even are taking art out of the schools. Like,
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what the hell?
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Out of schools?
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Out of schools.
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That's so sad.
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Let's not have music class. Let's not have art class.
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That is what saved my life, basically.
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I reflect on this now because I'm an adult. I
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wasn't even aware when I was a teenager how extremely important.
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My school, my high school time was.
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Because I had a teacher who did music classes that
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were not about music theory. It was just about getting
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to know an instrument and playing shows regularly.
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That's what we did. We did like Amy Winehouse, Linkin Park.
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And it was people who didn't know anything about music,
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but he gave us like the fun part of it.
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He's like, you want to learn it? Let's take the
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curiosity and make something out of it. And I look
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back on these lessons and I'm like, this actually shaped.
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My life more than anything else.
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Right.
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Because I did it like every week. We had all
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the shows. I discovered how to play like electric guitar
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and sing. And I'm like, this teacher really changed so
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many people's lives. And it's the opportunities that matter because like,
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Other people I know didn't have that in their schools.
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If you're from a smaller place. And I'm still to
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this day so grateful I went to that school. Even
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though it wasn't a normal school. It was just luck
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that they had such a huge art part. And yeah,
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people need that. Children need that. Because how else will
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you find out? When will you get the chance?
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Exactly. And how do you express? How do you get
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things out in a healthy way? And the thing is,
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I think, I don't care if you're somebody that's really smart,
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that's just into math and science. I think everybody needs
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the arts to be a more well-rounded person.
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Yes.
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I think so, too. It doesn't matter who you are.
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Yeah, it's a balance.
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Exactly.
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Everything is balanced.
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Exactly. And so it's a shame to hear what's happening
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over on your neck.
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Yeah.
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It's like the whole world is.
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Yeah.
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It's almost like if we take arts away, then nobody
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can argue, and all these idiots that try to run
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things will get us to do their bidding.
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Art is honest, and that's dangerous for some, you know?
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Exactly.
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But art is what we need. I think art is
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the definition of what a human being is to me,
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and that's why I hate AI so much.
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I love that.
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Yeah, because to me, that's what art is all about,
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a place where we can put our emotions and what
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identifies us, so... I think this should never be taken
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away from us.
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Well, and to your point with AI, that's the missing
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component of AI that makes it not so intelligent is
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no human critical thinking, no human emotion, none of that.
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I even see it in some of the tools for
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editing shows and doing show notes. I read the stuff
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and I'm like, It sounds like a robot wrote it.
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That is what makes me aggressive.
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AI wasn't meant to replace the fun things humans do.
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It was meant to replace boring or database stuff. And
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now my eyes itch when I see AI flyers all
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over the place.
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When artworks are done with AI.
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Yesterday we watched TV and there were ads everywhere.
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Completely done with AI. We don't have that in Germany yet.
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We do, we do.
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We don't watch TV in Germany, but yesterday at the
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hotel we watched TV. I was like, what the fuck?
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That is some form of art too. And they use
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AI to create it. And I talked to Manu about,
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I was listening to a podcast and there was an
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ad inside.
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And the speech was done by AI. And in the
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end it was like, the speech was done by AI.
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I was like, why the fuck didn't you spend 100
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bucks to have a professional speaker speak this speech?
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10 second ad.
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And you can always tell because it's so choppy it's
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like the difference but tenfold of digital music opposed to
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analog music analog has a wave with the mids digital
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is choppy there are no mids anymore you know and
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i think ai is a similar thing but worse you
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know and like I'm sorry, you shouldn't be able to
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create art with AI.
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Yeah, I think so too.
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You should be able to create certain things like you said, databases.
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But art is expression. AI isn't trying to express anything.
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Yeah, I recently just said, if you do music with AI,
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you might as well just sell cars.
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Because what is your point of doing it?
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If you just want to make money, just go in
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a business that actually gives you money, right?
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Because I'm like, what is it for? Exactly. What is
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it for?
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To me, you're not an artist if you can push
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a button.
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And in the end it's stealing from other artists because
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all these models are trained by real artists and they
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don't have a saying in that.
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They already stole our stuff.
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There's a website where you can check in and there's
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so many things already stolen from our music which is
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so annoying.
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But like a human can't steal from you or you'd
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get in trouble. So that's ridiculous. And then they want
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to talk about not even regulating it. Like in my country...
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The idiot doesn't even want to regulate AI. Like, we're
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talking about regulating... The entire world. And he's like, no.
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And I know, like, I dated for a while a
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woman that's from Lingan. And she lives there. She's from there.
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She's never lived in the United States. And she's even
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telling me how the whole political climate is changing in
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your country where it's almost... in some places getting back
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to the Third Reich, which is really sad, because you
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guys have become like, especially Berlin, one of the most
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liberal places on the planet.
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Right now, today was election in Berlin.
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In two parts of Germany, and in Berlin, luckily, the
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leftists They did win. But in the part where my
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family came from, the white wing won by far.
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There's no neutral. There's no in the middle anymore.
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And I am more of a middle person. I hate
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the extremes. And like here in this country, I have
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a pretty good balance of right and left people I'm
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friends with or colleagues with. And I can't even stand
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any of them anymore because they all moved.
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Like They distance each other more and more and more.
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And then they're doing the same thing. Like, I have
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my liberal friends. I'll say straight out to them. I'm like,
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you're acting just as bad as the people that you
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don't like.
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Ironically, there are many things that are very similar about
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both sides with the extremist mindset.
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I think so, too. I think.
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We really need to discuss again.
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We really need conversations again.
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And we need to be brave about talking about topics,
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both sides.
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I think it's a huge problem in the world right now.
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There's no, as I said, there's no real Like diplomatic middle.
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Exactly. And like, how are you going to learn things
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by only talking to people that agree with you? I
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think the way to learn is to talk to people
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that disagree with you.
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Yes.
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And you can learn from each other and maybe there's
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some happy middle there. I always say it's two sides
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of the same coin because we're a two-sided country. And
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they're all on the same team and it ain't mine.
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You know? See, always trick in the book. Divide and conquer.
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Guys all piss at each other so they can get
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what they want done. But here we are at Louder
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Than Life. And this is where the example of the
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world is, right here. You know, where you can come here,
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nobody's an outsider, nobody's any label, we're just all here
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to enjoy music, and when I'm here at a festival,
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no matter where it is, even at Vakan, my feeling was, wow,
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none of this bullshit is going on that's really going on. Like,
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you don't feel like the weight of everything going on
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in the world because we're one big family and a community.
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I think the whole world could learn from our family.
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People need to try to understand each other again, maybe
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instead of judging right away. It's a, it's a thing
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because there is no alternative at this point because it's
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either that side or that side, but it's never really understanding.
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And, and empathize, you know, like, I have a brother
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that's like that. If somebody doesn't agree with them, he
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says they're uneducated and uninformed. And I say to them,
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or they got brought up someplace different than you. Or
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they have a different job than you. Or a different
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education than you. Or 15 million other ors. Because we're
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all different with all different influences. That's what makes humans great.
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We're unique. If we become the way we're going right now,
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we're no better than the AI. Yeah. That's my opinion.
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out for because many people don't get these stages.
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And I think you should never underestimate the power you have,
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no matter.
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Who you are.
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