Aug. 19, 2026

Icelandic Inspiration: Hrafnablót Discuss Sorcerer's Folk Metal and Genre Blending

Icelandic Inspiration: Hrafnablót Discuss Sorcerer's Folk Metal and Genre Blending
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In this engaging episode of The Adventures of Pipeman on W4CY Radio, Pipeman sits down with Rav Nablok from the Icelandic band Hrafnablót. The conversation explores the band’s unique blend of genres, their inspiration rooted in Icelandic culture, creative processes, and the importance of authenticity in music. Listeners also get insight into the upcoming release of their full-length album and the choice to use the Icelandic language in their songs.Main Topics Covered

  • Pronunciation challenges with Icelandic band and album names
  • The fertile creative ground of Icelandic culture and nature
  • Inspirations behind Hrafnablót’s music style and band formation
  • Genre fusion and the evolution of metal
  • Gatekeeping and openness within metal culture
  • Language choice in songwriting and its emotional resonance
  • Music as a portal to cultural understanding
  • Reflections on global perspectives, travel, and learning from others
  • Album details and where to find Hrafnablót online
Key Discussions and StoriesIcelandic Roots & Creative Inspiration
  • Iceland’s contrasts in nature and culture offer rich inspiration for musicians 02:26.
  • Discussion on whether nature directly influences their music or if their creative process is more coincidental and varied 03:01.
Genre Fusion & Sorcerer’s Folk Metal
  • Hrafnablót’s music is a blend of old-school heavy metal, black metal, symphonic, power, and folk elements, which they call "sorcerer's folk metal" 05:44.
  • Each band member has different musical tastes, allowing them to experiment and create something unique rather than following strict formulas 05:14.
Reflections on Metal Culture and Gatekeeping
  • Pipe Man recalls the gatekeeping days of metal, where fans had to be loyal to specific subgenres 08:01.
  • Both speakers champion creativity over repetition and the importance of breaking out of genre boxes 11:14.
Music as Therapy and Unity
  • Music’s role in personal motivation and therapy is discussed, including how blasting metal can be energizing or calming for different people 17:06.
  • The power of music to unite people from different cultures is celebrated 13:06.
Authentic Expression and Language
  • Artistic authenticity is preserved by writing and singing in Icelandic, allowing for personal meaning and emotional impact beyond literal understanding 24:12.
  • The band’s choice to forgo English lyrics for uniqueness, flow, and deeper connection to their heritage 25:28.
Cultural Perspective & Travel
  • Insights on cultural immersion, learning new languages, and broader worldviews through travel 27:07.
  • Music festivals and the mosh pit as metaphors for global understanding—proposing a worldwide metal festival as a way to solve conflicts 32:34.
Notable Quotes
  • “There’s a lot of huge contrasts in Icelandic culture and Icelandic nature which are a very fertile ground for music inspiration.” – Rav Nablok 02:26
  • “Metal was never a formula. It was always experimentation.” – Pipeman 04:54
  • “Everyone can assign their own meanings to the emotions within the song, even if they don’t look up the translations for the lyrics.” – Rav Nablok 24:12
  • “I think music is not only the best therapy but the best uniter.” – Pipeman 13:21
  • “You learn a lot more from people different than you than people the same as you.” – Pipeman 31:40
  • “Let’s have a major metal music festival that the whole world is required to attend, except the political leaders. They are banned … and we just all get into a big Wall of Death mosh pit.” – Pipeman 32:34
Resources & Links Mentioned
  • Band name and social platforms: Hrafnablót — available as @Hrafnablod on all major channels 34:17
  • Official website: https://hrafnablod.is (Merch store launching with the album release)
  • Upcoming album: Guðlaugar Saga — releasing September 11 34:36
  • Single & video: Last pre-album single releasing August 21
Connect with Hrafnablót
  • Instagram, Facebook, all platforms: @Hrafnablod
  • Official Site: hrafnablod.is
Additional Notes
  • The episode highlights the importance of authentic artistic expression and global understanding through music.
  • Pipe Man challenges listeners to try pronouncing Hrafnablót correctly and encourages immersing themselves in music beyond familiar languages or genres.
  • Listeners are encouraged to support the band by checking out their album, streaming their music, and buying merch.


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Hi, you have done to the censure.

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Wow for you your.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm very excited

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about our next guest. And we were talking so much

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before the interview because I am always afraid of mispronouncing

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a band name, and we got it right. I don't

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know if I could get it right again though now

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after I just thought about it after talking, so I'm

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gonna say it and then they can correct me.

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So let's welcome to the show. Rev not bloke.

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Thank you. That was very good.

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Yeah, not too much like you weren't here yet.

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But I said before, I'm like, let me tell you

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how I think it sounds, and I'm sure it's wrong,

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so you can tell me the right way because my

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worst fear is mispronouncing the band's name.

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You know.

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Well, I don't know if we can blame you because

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ilanding isn't exactly spoken.

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All over the world, I know, right, And I'm like,

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I'm just giving it my best guess here. And I

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was pretty close. He'll tell you, I was pretty close.

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And you know it's funny because after I said it,

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I was thinking about the you know, over the oh

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and I'm like, I should have said it, bloke, because

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I said blot okay, but then I thought about it afterwards,

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and so there you go. So and I love that

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you're an Icelandic band because that's one of the places

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on my list that I want to go. And I

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got I gotta say, if you're a representative man, some

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of the best music comes out of your country. I

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don't know if it's because you know it's ice and

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you have nothing better to do but to sit around

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and make great music, but I mean, to me, like

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it is always amazing. The countries that are like in

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the northern part of the world always come out with

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some of the best music.

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Thank you.

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I mean, yeah, we there's a lot of huge contrasts

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in Icelandic culture and Icelandic nature, which are very fertile

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ground for music inspiration.

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That's very cool. And so tell us what the inspiration

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was for you guys to get together and make this music.

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It's really hard. It's hard to say. I feel like,

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I don't know if it was some kind of a

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because we're very happy with our album that is coming

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out and the singles that we have put out, and

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I don't know if it's like some kind of a

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mix of coincidence. But it just went like the songs

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just exceeded my expectations every time, and I was just

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all kinds of random things that just worked out, Like

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almost every suggestion was good. We didn't have to like

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added a lot or change. Of course, we have to

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do it sometimes, but I just felt like every improvement

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or suggestion was just good, good, good, And I mean

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the influences are from different directions, but somehow they worked out.

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So I don't know how inspired I am by the nature.

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I mean, sometimes people say it like there's a contrast

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in nature which is an inspiration, which probably might be true,

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but I don't. I don't know if I see it

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for me but me and talk me too. I know

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we like Finnish music a lot, or like finish having

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metal just to connect with what you were saying from

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the north, so I actually prefer that over Icelanding metal.

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But yeah, oh yeah, that's great And it's so funny

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because we were talking about when we were waiting for

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you before about one of the things I love about

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your music is that it combines like blending genres, which

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is becoming I think a thing now because for me,

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I like it because it creates that unique sound and

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everybody can put their piece into it. That makes something great,

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opposed to some formula that was happening for a while.

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You know, there's so many subgenres, microgenres, and this formula

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to make metal metal was never a formula. It was

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always experimentation, and I think because it came that way,

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it acquired newer bands to be more of like what

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you do and blend the genre. So again you're being

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creative again and you're experimenting again with something that's never

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been done.

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Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, we all have quite different tastes

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in music and metal subgenres, and when we started writing

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together and creating a sound, kind of just happened to

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sound the way it did. There's no real specific subgenre

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in mind at the outset.

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We crafted this.

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Weird blend of genres going from old school heavy metal

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to black metal to symphonic stuff and power metal and

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whatever that we call Sorcerer's Folk metal because we have

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a really strong interest in Icelandic folk culture and especially

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Icelandic magic culture.

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I think it was you who coined this name. I

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was I was asking a few times, I was like,

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what do we play? What is it that we're playing? Guys?

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Because he listens to everything, Like he's actually like an encyclopedia,

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which I would never have the patients for because I'm

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just like, no, I don't like this, don't make me

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listen to it.

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But he's like.

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Everything, it's something for legends or something. So I've been

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sometimes like what are we and they're like, we're a

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mix of this and this. I mean, the folk element

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was from the beginning everybody wanted to have it. That

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was kind of clear. But yeah, the interest in like

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death metal or power metal is different. It depends on

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who you ask, and we don't all like the same things,

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but it was strangely compatible, like how we managed to

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mix everything. But yeah, I think you came up with

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Sorceress folk.

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I like it. I love that.

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Yeah, it's funny because I do a lot of festivals

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and I have a lot of times like then this

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funny bit we're in a band because the subgenres and

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micro genres have gotten so ridiculous that like it's one

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band per genre, and so I would do this joke like, Okay,

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if you had your own.

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Genre, what would your genre be? You know, and so like,

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that's kind of like what you did here.

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It's like you just create your and I love it too,

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because I even love the folk influences. Like I come

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from the years of the really serious gatekeeping and metal

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and frankly it was a bunch of bullshit.

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And I can't say I was that way too.

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You had to be, because you know, you're a teenager,

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you're you know, your friends are like like a perfect example.

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I I saw Motley Crue before they ever even had

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an album, when they were like horror punk, and then

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when I found Slayer, my friends are like, oh, you

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can't listen to Motley Crue anymore.

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In fact, we got to take all your Motley Cruise

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ship and burn it, okay, very oh yeah.

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You don't listen to this anymore.

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Yeah, no, you're gonna that's it. We're burning at all,

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you know. And uh, I remember saying you can't burn

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my ship. Well we're going to.

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And so like it's kind of cool now because listen,

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we were talking about before, like metal heads like other

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kinds of music, and it really the conversation was sprung

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by he said, I like your shirt. Now, how many

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metal heads would say that about Grateful Dead shirt, and

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I explained to him, I'm like, well, tonight, I'm covering

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a show for Jack Johnson, so I figured where my

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Grateful Dead shirt would be better than my possessed shirt

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for that And but in the same token, like I

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would go to Slayer shows of Friday night and Dead

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shows on a Saturday, and we all have different vibes

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and different things. And who said, what you have to

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freaking listen to? I am like a metal head, true

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as can be, but I like all kinds of other stuff.

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So now, like, I just think of some of my

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favorite artists that you're blending into your music. When I

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hear the word folk, like I think of people like

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Janis Joplin or or you know, Bob Dylan or somebody

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like that, and like, yeah, they're not metal, but who cares,

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they're freaking awesome, you know.

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I think it's important because I don't know, sometimes have

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a feeling with if you're only in your genre. Let's

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say you listen only to your genre and your friends

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and maybe your bandmates, it becomes a bit like like incestuous.

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You know, It's just it's just like repeating the like

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narrow sound of this and this and like probably get

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to go I was, I don't know, it's like very much,

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how I am. I really try not to get into

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that because it's I don't really see the point of

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making a song that is kind of this kind of

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another song that exists, but a little bit with your spin,

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but it brings almost nothing new. It's a little bit

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like my bother.

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Well, it's like being a cover band exactly. I mean

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it is.

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It's even funny that me who has always been able

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to differentiate one band from another, but like we were

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also talking before, you take the Big four thrash, they

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didn't soundlike they were similar. Maybe Metallica originally was considered

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power metal because there was no thrash metal and me

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I would think, oh, they're not really power metal. But

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you know, if you don't have something to put somebody

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in a box, and artists in a box, let's put

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them in this box, you know. And you think art

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should have any box whatsoever, and you could play whatever

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music you want. I think as you grow as an

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artist too, you want to kind of jump out your

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comfort zone and experiment it in a lot of different

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arenas and in a lot of different areas and That's

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what I think you guys are doing. By combining all

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these things, you're creating something that nobody else is doing.

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It's kind of like one band that I really love

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that nobody can really compare to is High Loan, and like,

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like the first time I saw them at Hellfest, you're

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having like some serious metal heads all there for their show,

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and that just proves something because you know, do I

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really consider them metal necessarily?

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Maybe?

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I don't know, but they're not what you would define

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as metal, but they're freaking killer because why it's not

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like you were saying, it's not the same old thing anymore.

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It's not, as you put, incestuous.

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Yeah, there seems to be some kind of overlap between

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these kind of what do you call them, like pylung

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or this kind of uh primitive what do you call

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this music?

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You know what I mean?

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That's kind of primitive nature music and metal with I

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don't know, they're primitive instruments. I don't know why there's

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an overlap. There must be some elements.

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I don't know.

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It's the primitive, primitive power, because you have that in

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metal a lot.

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Yeah, look at and look at the Who from Mongolia

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and you know, yeah, perfect example, and they're definitely metal,

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but they have all these cool instruments and like.

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I like it, like I like it.

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Also seeing cultures of the world, I think music is

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a great representative of culture, Like so the stuff you're

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doing is representative of where you are in the world,

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just like who is, Just like hit lung is you

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know so I because to me, music is not only

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the best therapy, but the best uniter. And I think

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the best way for our world to unite, especially right now,

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is if we understand each other and understand the real

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cultures instead.

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Of the stuff that's fed to us.

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Like I travel everywhere, and when I travel, I don't

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go to tourist areas. I don't go to the American

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areas what I call them, like where the America is

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in that country, I go with.

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The locals because, you know what, I think we need.

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To learn from each other, and you know, learn the

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differences instead of what's all the same. And I think

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that's the same with metal. Why we all have to

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have the same type of music in metal, Maybe we

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have all these different types so that we could basically

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share the best of everything all over the world.

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I mean, I get sometimes like sometimes we are listening

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to because we share a lot of music, and you know,

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it's this kind of I don't know if I should

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say the name of the genre, but sometimes it feels

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very overprocessed and some metal music that is popular now

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to me sounds like pop music that put like really

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heavy gent guitars at places to try to become a

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metal song. So maybe that's me being like the gatekeeping people,

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although I'm not gonna like make you burn any stuff,

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you know what I mean. Like, sometimes it.

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Is kind of true because there's one band I won't

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name who they are, but they're really popular right now

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and they are very brutal, brutal metal, like screaming is brutal.

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But they're like trying to break into the mainstream pop

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and they are, you know, and it's like it kind

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of blows my mind because I come from a time

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that if if the music I listened to was played

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on the radio, I'm not listening to them. Yeah, And

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like it's funny because even like doing festivals, like when

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they're doing interviews, they only want the press with like

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the pop media outlets, like because they're trying to break

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in there and they are, and it kind of blows

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my mind. But isn't that the antithesis of what we're

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doing here? And then there's this other band that I

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won't mention either. I don't get them at all personally,

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but there's some they're like, oh my god, everybody loves

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them like beyond love, and I don't even consider them metal,

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like at least the other band I'm talking about, I

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consider them like pretty brutal metal.

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You know.

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So I kind of agree with you what you're saying, Like,

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why are we trying to be popular? Metal never tried

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to be popular. If it ends up popular, great, you know,

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like that's different, but trying that's a whole different philosophy.

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I think you should just try to make the music

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that makes you express yourself.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean it's like sometimes sometimes I speak to

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people and I do not relate at all when they're like, oh,

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I just vibe with whatever's on the radio this, I

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vibe with this, I vibe with this, and that's for me.

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It is like the most casual listener thing with metal.

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Of course it doesn't apply to every one, but I

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find it kind of obvious that in a large way,

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it's like a medicine or the ones who listen to it.

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It's not for everyone. It is not, which I understand

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because it's very heavy music and some people they just can't.

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It's just an attack. But for a lot of people

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it is like a medicine. So for me, it's not

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exactly like a music that is produced to become popular,

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but it is like more medicinal than anything.

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I agree a million percent, you know, it's it's funny.

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I'm also a motivational speaker, and do you know how

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I get myself motivated and positive to go do a seminar?

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I will last metal on the drive there? Okay, yes,

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what I.

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Do be for work too, and it starts much better

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when I wrote.

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Exactly.

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And then if something's going on in my life and

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I need to chill out the same thing, you know,

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Like people are like, how can you be listening to that?

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Blah blah, I'm like, it relaxes me, you know.

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Yeah. Sometimes if I pick up a friend and I

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have like a metal song and they're not into it,

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like please stop it? Please? Can you turn this off?

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Right?

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Right? Totally?

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It's so much for me that I have a rule

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if I date a woman that she has to be

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able to pass the test of coming in my vehicle

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with the metal blasting as far as loud as possible

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and not getting turned down.

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If she can handle that, she's in.

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If she can't, because that's who I am, Like, you

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can't change who you are, and like every time I

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get in the car, that's why I do. I've had

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you know, I was married to somebody that didn't like

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the music and I would go to a show and

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she's like, uh, you go without me, You'll have more

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fun that way.

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I'm like, yeah, that's not the right person that.

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Like, I don't want to be with somebody that will

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be more fun for me to do stuff by myself.

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And I certainly don't want to be with somebody that

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you know, I can only play my metal when it's

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just me.

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Yeah, you know.

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So that is what's great about you guys, because your music.

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I'm gonna have to use that now and blast that

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when I'm driving down the road with somebody and see

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if they can handle it.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, And I mean circling back to your test music,

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circling back to you know, motivations behind making music.

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Our motivation all along was to create what we thought

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was cool, right, and we're really excited to release the

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full album in September. Not because we're expecting vast oceans

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of money or millions of listeners, but just because, you know, we.

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Mean Spotify is that can give you millions and royalties.

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Never say it ever, I guess, but no, that's why

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we started.

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We thought that when we started. Then we found out

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it will give us maybe one drop of that.

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I mean, we just we're excited to release it because

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we think it's pretty cool and we hope other people

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will find it pretty cool.

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Also, well, I think it's pretty cool. Now here's why

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I want I do.

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Now.

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Now, let's see if I can butcher the album name,

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because that one too might be a little hard for

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for me.

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All right, so I'm gonna do it. Test Gone Louder.

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Saga.

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Yeah, the saga part I can do. That's easy. So

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say the first one again, Google legas.

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Yeah, yeah, I can't. I can't say that ten times fast.

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It's a woman's name because it's the saga of Goodlog,

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which is her name. But the name actually means god Pool.

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Oh that's cool.

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Yeah, so Goodlog means like God's pool.

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That makes sense too, Yeah, it makes more sense when

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you say it then me looking at because when you

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say it, that's what it sounds like right there.

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Yeah good, it's like you know, it's the same word,

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like God, just like the Islandai version and le is

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a pool. So but that was not part of the

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decision process. It's just something I realized along the way

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and made sense, which I feel like happened a lot

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with this album, that somehow things made sense even though

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we didn't try to know, they somehow got woven together.

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That's what makes it great though, Like when you're trying,

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you're not going to really make great art when you try.

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It just happens no matter what the art is.

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Like you know, my dad, there's paintings on my wall

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that he used to paint, like he would get stoned

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and paint for like forty eight hours and it would

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transform like what he started with and what ended up

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would be totally different.

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But he had no intention. He just arted like doing it.

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And I think that's what all art is about, you know,

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And that's the true form of expression because even like

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in his art, some of it, I can see his

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personality that nobody else can see, like they just see

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a nice picture. But I see other things, like I

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have this one in here. It's kind of a picture

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of like a lake in a forest, but it has

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darkness at the top and a lot of people that

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look at They look at and like.

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Oh that that's pretty blah blah blah.

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And when I tell him what I see is like,

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I see that his darkness in his personality and the depression.

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And the things going on his head.

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They can't see that, and that's because I can see

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it because I know him. But see, that's the kind

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of art is everybody sees something different and that's what's

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cool too.

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Yeah it makes sense, Like I think a lot of

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your personality goes into the art. But of course only

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the people that really know you are gonna see like,

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oh yeah, that makes sense right, and that I don't know.

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I mean, this band is such a great platform for

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all the absolute random craft that comes into my mind

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and has nowhere to go. You know, I have so

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many random ideas that come out of nowhere and they

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don't fit anywhere, and I'm like, here you go, band,

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please use this.

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Is use it.

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Just start somewhere.

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You know.

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I had this idea of her time traveling with a

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taser and like, yeah, using it on a battlefield. I

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don't know where this comes from. It just comes from

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somewhere and we were actually able to use it. And

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I'm like great because otherwise I just say like random

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things to my friends and it just sounds weird.

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See I love that though, you know, to see, that

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is what art is, and like what you the song

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you create has certain those certain means to you, but

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whoever is listening, they put their own means to it.

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That's the true good music. Like when artist says, oh,

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they need to know what it means. No, they don't

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need to know what it means to you. They just

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need to know what it means to them.

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And that's also pretty cool thing about releasing all of

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our songs in Icelandic is you know, most listeners don't

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understand Icelandic, but they can assign their own meanings to

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the emotions within the song, even if I don't look

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up the translations for the lyrics.

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Well, it's kind of like when you know, when American

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bands go to other countries and the people don't speak

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any English, but yet they're singing back the lyrics to

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them and they know what they're singing, even though they

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don't understand the lyrics.

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I think that's totally cool.

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Yeah, definitely, So what else.

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You go ahead?

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No, yeah, I was just thinking about the idea of

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because a lot of a lot of Nordic bands write

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in English, which I understand, so that much much more

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people can can understand the lyrics. But I just found it,

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you know, I find a lot of it, not all,

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but a lot of it is just I don't know,

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I just feel like the lyrics are just done so

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everybody understand them. I'm really missing the unique uniqueness, the

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unique message in them. So we just decided to do it,

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to do it a bit more unique and just have

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it in Icelandic.

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Yeah, and you know, also the flow, because when it

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comes to like translating, you know, there's not the same

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flow in the song. So like when you're thinking in

446
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Icelandic and you're coming up with these thoughts and you're

447
00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:54.240
putting them into a song like they make sense in

448
00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:57.279
that language. Now if you try to take those same

449
00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:01.440
thoughts and those same words and literally translate it, you

450
00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:04.960
don't get the same smoothness of the song or the

451
00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:11.720
the same like feeling from the song. Absolutely, So I

452
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:15.880
think the words whatever language it is don't really matter

453
00:26:16.000 --> 00:26:19.400
as much as the feeling that's provoked.

454
00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:22.519
So do you actually enjoy listening to stuff in languages

455
00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:24.839
you don't speak? I do. I do.

456
00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:25.559
That's great.

457
00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:29.839
And I'm somebody too that like when I go places,

458
00:26:29.880 --> 00:26:32.200
I want to try to learn their language anyway, you know,

459
00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:34.880
and like that, like some of them are really hard,

460
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:38.200
Like I stay like I go to the Netherlands a lot,

461
00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:42.079
and I've tried learning Dutch, and even my Dutch friends

462
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:48.920
there say, yeah, we can't even speak it. Well that's brilliant,

463
00:26:50.519 --> 00:26:53.359
yeah right, And so I was just that vakin too,

464
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:58.640
And like I actually dated this girl from a small

465
00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:01.759
town in Germany and and I tried to learn German

466
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:06.400
to converse with her instead of her ob he's having

467
00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:11.400
to do English. That one's hard too, But like Spanish

468
00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:15.240
I can do. I was in Italy recently, and since

469
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:18.119
I know Spanish and a little bit Portuguese and a

470
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:22.039
little bit Italian, it's still understandable because they're all like

471
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:27.960
related French sometimes a little bit, you know, because I

472
00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:32.759
go there, But still I can't really communicate. But when

473
00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:36.680
you start like immersing yourself like that, you kind of

474
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:39.240
don't even need to know what the words mean. I

475
00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:41.440
think the problem a lot of times when you're learning

476
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:44.720
another language is you're thinking in your own language and

477
00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:47.440
trying to translate in your head, so you can't keep up,

478
00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:48.480
you know, So.

479
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:51.640
Like definitely at the start, Yeah, that's definitely what you do.

480
00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:55.319
I mean, I think it's a huge you really, how

481
00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:57.519
do you say overcome something when you start thinking in

482
00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:00.599
that language? That means you are definitely advance a lot.

483
00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:03.640
Yeah, and that takes using it, you know.

484
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:05.920
But I can hear you kind of you like to

485
00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:09.319
really immerse yourself, and I like that because I'm also like,

486
00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:12.160
what's the point of going somewhere or traveling.

487
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:12.960
Right to what?

488
00:28:13.119 --> 00:28:16.079
You know? Yeah, it makes sense if you're if you're

489
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:19.640
like spending your time and money going somewhere, wouldn't you

490
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:22.680
want to immerse yourself as much as you exactly?

491
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:27.119
And I love understanding how other people in the world think,

492
00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:31.720
you know, Like we have our perspective in our own country,

493
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:35.000
whatever that is. Yeah, we always want to think in

494
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:39.119
that perspective. But even the fact of Okay, so I

495
00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:43.640
live in like predominantly the probably most capitalist country in

496
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:46.559
the world, and when I and I love going to

497
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:49.200
Denmark as well. I love that country, so I go

498
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:51.720
there and I remember one time I went there and

499
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:55.079
there was like eight of us sitting around and all

500
00:28:55.160 --> 00:28:59.680
from different countries, different political beliefs, different religious beliefs. No

501
00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:02.680
way was arguing, nobody was attacking. We were able to

502
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:06.000
have a conversation. This one girl, she said something It

503
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:09.599
has stuck with me ever since, because in the States

504
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:13.880
we talk about a country like Denmark, Oh yeah, socialist country,

505
00:29:14.039 --> 00:29:16.400
and look at how much taxes they have to pay,

506
00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:18.880
and that's kind of the pitch, like you don't get

507
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.599
to keep ay your money because the taxes are so high.

508
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:27.200
And this girl says to me, she goes, yeah, we

509
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:29.920
just don't think like that. We care about our countrymen.

510
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:34.799
And I firmly believe why should I have two cars

511
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:37.599
and my neighbor have none. I have no problem sharing

512
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:42.119
with my fellow countrymen. And that attitude, I was like, man,

513
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:45.279
that's such an amazing ante. And she even said without

514
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:47.839
me saying, she goes, yeah, I know everybody likes to

515
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:51.839
say how much taxes we pay, but it doesn't bother

516
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:55.839
me because I know it's going towards my fellow countrymen,

517
00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.480
And like, what a great philosophy to have. Whether you

518
00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:05.519
agree with what structure the fiscal policy is doesn't matter

519
00:30:05.640 --> 00:30:10.039
to me. It's that attitude right there that I think

520
00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:14.759
is absolutely amazing. Like, you know, in my country, everybody's

521
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:17.839
in competition. We have this joke keeping up with the Joneses,

522
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:18.640
you know.

523
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:19.359
And and.

524
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:25.200
I like what she explained a lot better. And you know,

525
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:28.759
it's like every country that I visit, I learn even more,

526
00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:31.519
you know, because when you grow up in your own

527
00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:35.119
country and you never go anywhere else, you only know

528
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:39.359
what you're told, not what any experiences. And especially like

529
00:30:39.519 --> 00:30:42.400
that's how I felt, you know, my whole you know,

530
00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:45.559
growing up in the United States is always oh, best

531
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.079
country in the world, only free country.

532
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:50.279
Don't go anywhere else. It's scary out there.

533
00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:58.519
My ex my ex wife's her father, her grandfather never

534
00:30:58.599 --> 00:31:02.359
even left his street, as you know, like like people,

535
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:05.160
there are people a lot like that here that never

536
00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:08.799
go anywhere. They don't leave their town or whatever. And

537
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:12.839
I remember the first time I went to Europe, I

538
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:17.680
was like, Wow, what were they talking about. I'm like,

539
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:21.000
I feel just as free, if not more free, over here.

540
00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:23.920
And and it's nothing against my country at all. It's

541
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:25.720
nothing to do with my country has to do with

542
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:30.599
I'll use the word brainwashing, like yeah, because you're in

543
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:32.480
this bubble that you can.

544
00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:33.160
Only think that way.

545
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:35.920
So that's also why I like to immerse myself because

546
00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:39.920
it's like I want to know what different, how different

547
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:43.519
people think, because that's I feel you learn a lot

548
00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:46.440
more from people different than you than people the same

549
00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:46.720
as you.

550
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:49.839
Yeah, And I think music is a great portal into

551
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:50.640
that sort.

552
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:53.720
Of totally immersion exactly.

553
00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:57.200
Even the fact that you talk about the different types

554
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:00.480
of metal, they are a lot of them from different

555
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.720
sections in the world, you know, and that doesn't mean

556
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.720
that's the only places, but that's the influence. So it

557
00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:09.680
gives you a little insight to that part of the

558
00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:13.640
world too. I think what people are singing about, you know,

559
00:32:13.920 --> 00:32:17.720
how they're playing, you know, stuff like that, especially too,

560
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:19.759
like when you have bands like I was talking about

561
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:23.400
the Who where they have the Mongolian instruments, like, it

562
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:26.359
just gives you more insight to their culture.

563
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:30.440
And I think you're right. I actually have this idea

564
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:32.400
to solve all the world's.

565
00:32:32.079 --> 00:32:38.839
Problems, and that is we have a major metal music festival,

566
00:32:39.359 --> 00:32:43.359
but the whole world is required to attend, except the

567
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:44.559
political leaders.

568
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:47.400
They are fans. Security is taught.

569
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:50.119
Security has a little sign with a big X on

570
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:56.400
their wristband, and we just all get into a big

571
00:32:56.640 --> 00:33:01.480
wall of death mosh pit and get all out and

572
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:10.839
right exactly because listen, after a good marsh we all

573
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:13.839
hug each other and like then we're not killing people

574
00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:15.359
in the outside world, like.

575
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:21.920
The release of the needs to I don't know, go

576
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:24.359
crazy or right.

577
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:28.400
And then you you understand the philosophy of no matter

578
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:30.559
what part of the world that person the pits from,

579
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:34.240
if they fall, pick them up, don't try keep kicking

580
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:39.400
them while they're down. It is it is like listen,

581
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:44.160
there's way more there's way more fights that go on

582
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:48.000
at redneck country shows with Jack Daniels than do at

583
00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:52.839
metal shows with marsh pits. Yeah, okay, and I and

584
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:56.880
I think that, like we don't need war, we just

585
00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:57.839
need a marsh pit.

586
00:33:58.319 --> 00:33:58.640
That's it.

587
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:00.559
It's good idea.

588
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:01.799
I agree with you.

589
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:05.920
Let's do it. I love that.

590
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:08.719
So tell everybody how they can reach out to you

591
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:12.480
guys on socials, check out the new album, buy your

592
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:14.320
merch They can't listen to my show.

593
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:16.280
Unlet's say, buy your merch or your music.

594
00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:23.480
So we are rap upload and we are at rapp

595
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:26.440
bload on every single platform. You can also find this

596
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:33.639
at sapapload dot I, which is we'll have a merch

597
00:34:33.719 --> 00:34:35.920
store going live close to the launch of the album.

598
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:42.639
The album itself Good Saga releases eleventh of September. We

599
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:46.800
have a single coming out. Our last pre album single

600
00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:51.519
is coming out Friday, the twenty first of August along

601
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:57.199
with the video. And I mean, we encourage everybody to

602
00:34:57.320 --> 00:34:57.840
check us out.

603
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:00.800
I love it. I encourage them to.

604
00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:04.599
And man, I really liked hearing you say the band

605
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:08.039
name because it sounded so cool the way you say it.

606
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:11.039
Let's see you each time. And I guys, be able

607
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:12.960
to say it like that because that sounds good.

608
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:15.880
Yeah, you need to listen to it again and again

609
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:17.920
until you can say. It's not too hard. You can

610
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:19.840
you can do it. Just listen to it over and over.

611
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:23.719
And I got I got as far this time as

612
00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:26.039
heaven and bloke.

613
00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:29.119
That's pretty good. Yes, pretty close.

614
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:33.559
Okay, see, I'm getting better. It's gonna be my homework.

615
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:36.440
I'm gonna like to say it like a thousand times.

616
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:39.639
Yes when I see.

617
00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:44.119
Yeah, So that went yeah, So that when you guys,

618
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.519
I see you guys live, I can scream it from

619
00:35:46.599 --> 00:35:47.679
the crowd and say.

620
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:52.280
It right, yes, exactly, definitely right.

621
00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:55.719
And now and what you said, you're a teacher. So

622
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:58.159
now I'm in trouble because I'm I'm going to really

623
00:35:58.239 --> 00:35:59.000
have to work hard.

624
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:02.800
Yeah, I'm gonna check how well you did with your homework.

625
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:06.519
Okay, I'll hold you to that. Well.

626
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:10.679
Well, you guys rock. I love your music. Everybody else

627
00:36:10.760 --> 00:36:12.920
will too. That's why they have to go check it out.

628
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.559
And thanks a lot for being on the Adventures of

629
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:16.000
Pipe main.

630
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:21.800
Thank you so much, so much, thank you, thank you

631
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:27.760
for listening to the Adventures of Pipeline. I'm w for

632
00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:29.639
CUI Radio.