April 8, 2026

Interviews with Michale Graves + MacSabbath + Crimson Glory

Interviews with Michale Graves + MacSabbath + Crimson Glory
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Season 20

Season 20, Episode 35 of The Adventures of Pipeman.

Chapter 1: MICHALE GRAVES Signs to E.A.R. / VMG, distributed by Virgin Music Group

Announces Spring Tour: “God Bless America Tour 2026”

“These shows on my God Bless America Tour will be an intimate, story-driven live experience that blends acoustic music, testimony, and storytelling,” says Graves.

Adds Graves, “Signing with Epochal Artists Records marks an important new chapter for me in my career. In many ways, it is going back to where I began. The first dream in my heart as a young man was to be a musician and a preacher. That calling has always been part of everything I’ve done along the way to where I find myself today in music and in life. The preacher part might take a minute, but I’ll continue to work on it.

Chapter 2: Pipeman discusses MacSabbath with Mike Odd the manager as he explains about dealing with these crazy illusive weirdos and the April 10th show at Respectable Street in West Palm Beach

Chapter 3: Crimson Glory recently announced their brand new album “Chasing The Hydra”, the first new album in 26 years. The album will be released worldwide on all digital services, CD and vinyl on April 17th via BraveWords Records. The early reviews have been incredible and today the band releases a new track to YouTube for the fans… “Angel In My Nightmare”

Alongside mainstay founding members Ben, Jeff and Dana, the band announced in 2023 the addition of amazing new vocalist Travis Wills and guitarist Mark Borgmeyer. The band have been touring heavily over the past year... making this album one of the most anticipated releases of 2026 within the Heavy Metal Scene!

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I'm w for se wow for you yours on the.

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Summer Books.

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Muscle. This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures

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pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm very

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excited about our next guest because there's not only some

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exciting news, but I just think he's like one of

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the coolest in the industry.

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So let's welcome to the show. Michael Graves, how are you?

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I'm good, fight, how are you?

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I'm doing good?

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So very exciting that you signed uh to ear VMG

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and distributed by Virgin Music Group and you're announcing a

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spring tourt God Bless America tour twenty twenty six. So

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I'm going to start right there. I want to know

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what that means to you, because everybody puts their own

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meaning to things, and to me, this is the best

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America type of thing I've heard.

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And I don't know how long, well, I've been back

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and forth across the country so many times, and the

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country is not only beautiful, you know, as I'm looking

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out the window and all the different places I get

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to go and see, but the people itself. And I

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was thinking, how can I express, you know, the majesty

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and the beauty of everything that I see when I'm

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when I'm out there, including like I said, the people

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and the and the the interactions that I have and

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just the whole thing. And I started thinking about the

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anniversary of the country coming up in July, and I

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wanted to it to be called, you know, something positive,

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something wonderful, and so I called it God Bless America Tour.

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That's why I love the positive part, you know, And

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it is true. I think a lot of people don't

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even realize, you know, when you drive across this whole country,

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there is so much to see and so much majestic

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stuff and so many different I'll even say cultures, you know.

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To me, going to each state is like going to

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a different country.

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Sure there is, there's there's so much. There's so many

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different things to experience. And see that again when I

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find myself saying, she's got God Bless America, this is

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this is amazing in your right there there is there's

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so many different things to see. I mean, from the

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from the oceans to the mountains to the flatness of

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the middle of the country. It's just amazing. We live

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in a really wonderful place.

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Totally And you know, listen, I grew up in Jersey.

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I was born in New York, but grew up in Jersey.

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My dad moved me to LA in nineteen eighty wild

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time to move to LA. And now I live in

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South Florida, And I can say honestly that all three

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places are so totally different, and there's cool aspects of

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them all, and even the people are different, you know.

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her grandfather never left his street his whole life, much

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less to town, and I think everybody needs to get

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out there and just see how other people live, how

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other people's environments are, and the difference is. I think

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we would get along a lot better by understanding where

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we're all from.

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Yeah, I love that trend.

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I think it was maybe before the pandemic remem the

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trend that was happening where there were all of these

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you know, the influencers, and they would right and they

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would go in the vans and they would have like

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their van life, and they would blog and send videos

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and it was a really cool sort of revival of

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that wander lust that so many people you know that

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that I guess in more in like the sixties and

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the seventies. I think there was you know a lot

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of people that would just they would hitchhike across the country.

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They would totally just they would just go out. Yeah,

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I've always had a wanderlust.

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So yeah, I think that you're right.

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I think that.

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I think that there's there's something very human about moving

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around like that and getting out of the bubble.

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Of your life.

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It's it's really does something positive, totally totally.

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And I also want to talk about something that I

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think is really cool about you that maybe most people

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don't even think of, because I'll even talk about it

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was very funny. I saw something today. It's funny that

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happened today interviewing you because I saw this posting on

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next door, which is this community app that I don't

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find it very much of a community app. I find you, like,

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pretty negative. So this person comes on. They take a

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picture of somebody who has this shirt on and it

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looked like it could have been it was hard to

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tell because it was blurry, like from Nightmare before Christmas,

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because it was like this skull with a Santa hat

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on and a Christmas tree, and she just started going

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off on this person and now they must be demonic

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and blah blah blah. And I even remember being in

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high school and wearing like my hot Ozsie Diary of

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a Madman shirt and people coming up to me and

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clean my own cousin like you're a devil worshiper, and

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it's like I'm thinking myself, you're just an idiot, because

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it's just a skull.

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It's the meaning you put to it.

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But like even Ozzie, he wore across his all the time,

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he was a devout Christian, you know.

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And so I love that you have this same message.

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And that's how this whole you know, collaboration I'm gonna

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call it you signing you know, came about because you

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have this strong Christian positive message. And I want to

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make sure people out there know about that because if

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they think of like old school misfits, they might think

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something different. And it's just it's just entertainment. It's not,

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you know, anything beyond that.

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In my opinion, you look at my my lyrics and

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my content that I've put out all the way back

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into the Misfits, if you really start to kind of

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take it apart, you'll all of a sudden you start

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to see the Christian message or the positive message that

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is in there. And you're right, you know, And I've

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gotten a lot of pushback to over the years from

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you know, people like that, like the people that you

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just describe, like, oh, how can you how can you

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love Jesus or how can you have this you know,

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this Christian perspective and your face as a skull and

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all you know, the the images that you use, you know,

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and and the way that the filter that we use

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or that I use in the whether it's misfits or

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Michael Graves and many you know, when I'm singing about

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the fallen worlds or angels or the darkness or all

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these things, like you said, it doesn't necessarily make it demonic.

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As well.

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You know, for for me, what what makes why would

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I you know, put out images or or go to

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places where there are already you know, believers, Like that's

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like walking into a church full of believers and trying

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to convince them of something that.

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They've already believe.

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We're fishers of men, we've and we've already caught them,

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you know, they're already believers. Well, then who's going to

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go out to these kids that They're not going to

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listen to anybody that's going to roll up on them

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with the you know, you know, the blouse is on,

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or the loafers and hello, you know, let me tell

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you about Jesus. That's just not going to get anywhere.

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You know, that's not going to get anybody in the door.

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I do it a different way.

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I love it. That's so smart though.

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I mean I think about it, like you had me

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have a flashback of one day. I had like Slayer

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blast them through my guitar amplifier and I had my

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Aussie shirt on, and I can knock on the door

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instat Jehovah's Witnesses and as a teenager being funny, I'm like,

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you know what I'm gonna do? Tell them, Yeah, I'm

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a devil worshiper.

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No, thank you.

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But like that what you just said reads right into it,

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because I was knocking to listen to these people knocking

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on my door. Okay, just not right?

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Yeah, And and the kids that need it, you know,

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in music and this kind of place that I come from.

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In music, there there.

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Are there a lot of young people who are lost,

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who are hurt. There's a lot of substance abuse, there's

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mental abuse, there's there's all sorts of things that that

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in my opinion, that that faith in God and knowing

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Jesus could really, you know, can help and change his

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people's lives. And again, you know, you know, mister Flanders

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walking around with these.

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Kids are going to eat him alive.

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Michael Graves hanging out with you talking, and it's a different.

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Different no, no, no, no, like I would have thrown

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Flanders into emosh bit. Yeah, me too, me too, you know,

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and so and it's funny too because like I think

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of certain things like that all the time. That's why

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I love your message and you as a role model,

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because like you take tom Rijoh Slayer, he's he's a

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total Christian. And a lot of music that sounds like

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devil music is really talking against the devil. It's just

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because it's loud and heavy, it must be demonic, you

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know type of thing.

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Yeah, And it's reflecting the darkness, the bad, oh, the

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bad that's in the world. It's reflecting back the world.

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It doesn't necessarily paint it or start to pipe in demons.

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It's just the opposite. How can we we're supposed to

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know that world? We're supposed to understand that world. And

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the more we show that world, the the easier it

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is to talk about the light. You got to understand

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the darkness to give the light, for the light to

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shine through, and to have it be more understood.

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That's so true. I love it.

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So what is it that keeps you going in music

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here all these years later?

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My desire to get.

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To people I and do exactly what I'm doing. I

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love music, obviously, I love I love creating music and performing,

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but I love the interactions with the people. Like I said,

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I've come across people, you know, I hear a lot

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of stories about again, loss and hurt and all of

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these things that the world brings out of us. So

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I continue the music the way that I do because

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from the time I remember, I've always felt my duty

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was to serve people, to help people, to be a light.

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In the world.

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Quick story.

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I was an EMT for for a bunch of years,

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and I started to start to walk away from music

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a bit, and and I would pray a lot like Lord,

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I'll go where you want me to go.

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I'll do what you want me to do. Is this

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is this what I'm supposed to do?

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Is this where you want me to go. One day

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I got a call and I responded to a man

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who tried to commit suicide.

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He stepped in front of a train.

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It didn't kill him, it just busted him up real bad,

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and the whole you know, we packaged him up, got

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him in the ambulance, and I remember silently praying again

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like God is like I, you know, I don't like

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seeing people bust up.

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I'm a really good medic, you know.

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Heavy rescue train responded to more calls than I can remember,

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but I but it clicked in my mind. Whether it

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was God talking to me or whatever. I remember saying,

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I want to get to people before they step in

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front of that train. And that was very profound thought

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in my mind. And after that I I redoubled my

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efforts and dedicated myself to music. I want to get

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to people before they step in front of the train.

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Man.

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That's what there it is.

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I love it.

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And you know it's funny you're telling this story and

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I think of like George Foreman and he got knocked

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out by Ali and then he became a minister and

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he thought he shouldn't be boxing as a minister, and

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then he came back and won the heavyweight championship once again.

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So like and that here you are, you're going to

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be touring. I love it, and U I'm so glad

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that you're putting out, you know, some positive energy and

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music for us all together, so we can change some

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lives because I think we need it now more than ever.

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Amen, I believe I believe that as well.

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Well.

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Thank you and thanks for being on the Adventures of

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very special guest here. We have Mike Odd and he's

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the manager of MC Sabbath, Who's gonna be playing here

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locally at Respectable Street one of my favorite venues in

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the area. Like I tour all over the country, all

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over UK and Europe, because I hate going to places

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in South Florida.

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But I love Respectable Street.

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Man and I am it says I saw that they

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were playing there, I'm like, oh my god, that's great.

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I'm gonna be in town.

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I'm going so the pipe Man live live that Respectable

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Street where I think you guys are gonna like set

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records there of like just toying the turning the place

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into total mayhem.

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I think. So.

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So here's what I really want to though, Forget all

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the other bullshit. I want to hear some stories of

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what it's like to manage these odd balls.

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Well it's difficult, you know, I'm dealing with a time

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traveling clown. Ronald Osborne insists that he goes back and

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forth from this in this wormhole from the nineteen seventies,

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and he rejects all modern technology. So, as a manager

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of a rock band in what is it twenty twenty

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two or whatever.

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It is, what.

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I always go nineteen Uh, you know, and uh, that's

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that's that's definitely where he's at. He's stuck in this

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realm of the of the nineteen seventies and reject If

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I try to say, oh, like, you know, we should

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probably do a stream or an MP three or something

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like that. You know you're gonna get a pie in

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your face or you know, seltzer water, you know, squirt

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it all over you or something. He gets angry and

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and and you know, rejects it and confused and so

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uh so this is what I'm dealing with. So instead

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of being on like Spotify or something I have, like

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you know, a LP that comes in a pop up

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book or a Flexi disc that comes in a coloring book,

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He's all He's very focused on very tangible stuff that

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you can touch, and like likes to make things that

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the kids enjoy, because you know, he's trying to get

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the message out to younger people about you know, fast

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food being evil.

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So yeah, well I'm a little upset though, because like

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I was hoping you could you would say, I used

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to have that other band, you know, I used to

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have the BS band. I used to have them on

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eight track, So I was hoping you have some eight

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tracks I could get you.

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Can say Black Sabbath, by the way, that's perfectly careful.

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I have several Black Sabbath eight tracks as we speak.

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H Yeah, I've gone. I have gone and done the

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a track thing a bit and uh and and that's

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and that's fun and uh it it resonates for me.

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There's something about that drag that has this kind of

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old timey like formative feeling for me. So and I

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have actually looked into trying to get eight tracks made

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for Max Sabbath because I think it would I think

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it would please Ronald, and I think that it would

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look really good on the merch table and you know,

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maybe you know, one or two people would buy one.

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I would definitely buy what.

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I don't even have an eight track player anymore, but

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I would buy what. I've been like, it's the only

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thing I ever got rid of. I'm like, man, I

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wish I still had my eight tracks.

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And it's fun. It's fun shopping for eight tracks on

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eBay because like you know, if you're buying Black Sabbath,

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it's gonna run you, like you know, it's gonna run you,

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like you know, forty bucks or something forty fifty bucks

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if you can find the a tracks. But you know

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you can get Barbara Mandrell for like five cents, you know.

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So it all depends on what you like, you know.

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So, but do they actually give you like a free

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matchbook with every eight track, because you know that's a

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necessary tool to play the eight track, right right, gotta

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put it under there to get at the right speed.

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Nowadays you have this button on Spotify that could be

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one times, two times, five times. We needed a matchbook

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in order to do that technology. H I think you

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should get some for the respectable street show. I'll promote

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the ship out of everybody. They can't listen to my

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show anymore unless they buy a mixed Sabbath eight track.

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But you gotta take You have to make sure though

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that you have that you take one of the songs

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and split it like in the middle to track you know,

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where to jump Like I remember a Blizzard of Oz,

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Mister Crowley would fade out in the middle, change tracks

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and then fade back in.

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I miss those days, you know.

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Yeah, people are so confused on this right now, right so,

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but they, like you said, they might actually buy them

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even though they didn't. Right now, I'm actually talking to

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the skateboard company and I'm like about doing a skateboard deck,

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and and I'm like, well, you know, Ronald's gonna want

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this old fashioned seventies shape, can you do that? And

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they're like, yeah, I go, but you guys would probably

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know what would sell better, because maybe that's not gonna

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sell because the kids ride these modern skateboard shapes. And

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he goes, ah, it doesn't matter because most of the

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people who buy the skateboard decks are just gonna put

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them on their wall or.

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No, what trucks, right, I was like, what, I Well,

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to be fair, I have three skateboards that I use, Okay,

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but if I bought a deck like a Mac Sabbath deck,

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I wouldn't want to fuck up that deck riding on it.

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Like Jesus, my skateboards look like they've been through World

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War three.

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Yeah, well yeah, I mean, I don't know. I guess

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it'd be people who don't skateboard will buy them, put

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them on the wall, and then people who skateboard will

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buy them, and some of them will put them on

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the wall and some of them will ride them. I

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guess there's three different categories or something. I don't know.

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I do have I bought one of those Devo decks

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that's the five red.

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Hats you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Together and and I and I was like, I don't

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know if they're gonna, you know, just keep it or

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put trucks on it. And then it came and it

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doesn't even have the holes drilled in it.

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To say, no, you're not gonna put the trucks on

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this thing.

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But see, that would be the one to ride because

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the pain on your size, you would know where to

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put your feet. Uh so, is this the kind of

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fun we're gonna have at respectable Streaks?

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Oh, it's gonna be beyond this if you can imagine that.

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Like, can you describe to our listeners have never experienced

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this what they can expect at a Mac Sabbath show.

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This is why it's hard being the manager of Max

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Sabbath because it's really harder to describe. I mean, you

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can say the obvious thing, which is that it's these

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you know, mutated fast food mascots playing these Black Sabbath songs.

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But the twist is that is that it's, like Ronald says,

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he's come from He's traveled into the future to save

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us all from the current state of music and food

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and you know, teach us about how you know, how

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the drive through is evil and so is auto tune.

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I guess something like.

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That, Like not only auto tune, but I even have

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somebody on my station at Dore's a show that started

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creating music with AI. They don't have a talented bone

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in their body as far as that goes, But like

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an AI song, like that's kind of a little ridiculous

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if you ask me, man, I mean, you need talent.

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There's playing a business bullshit out there. You need talent.

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This is the thing about Ronald, Like from the beginning,

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it's just like it's like, Okay, he's insane. He's rattling

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on about these possible you know, few sure outcomes and

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dangers and blah blah blah, and I'm like, okay, I

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just I just write it off, like when he screams

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and yells about cinnabon Jovi or k Deville taking the

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food out of his mouth or something. You know, he's

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kind of paranoid, is no pun intended, you know what

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I mean? So I just kind of write all this up.

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But now, thirteen years later, I'm like, I remember him

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talking about these robot dogs and the and like completely

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automated robot burger places and all these horrible things that

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would happen with technology if we're not careful. And now

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we have robots mate, you know, replacing rock and roll musicians.

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You know, maybe maybe it's time to actually listen to

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this weirdo. You know, I don't know.

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I think so, I mean, pretty prophetic if you ask me. Yeah,

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so I think I think I have a.

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Couple ideas for you guys too.

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Okay, well one isn't really an idea, it's more of

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a question that I should probably know the answer to.

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But I don't have you ever Have you guys ever

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done like a tour with Zach Sabbath, because that would

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be kind of a fun tour right there.

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It's funny. There's an interview out there, uh with with

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Zach where the interviewer mentions us and and I guess

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I guess his response was, oh, yeah, they're great, I'd

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love to tour with them or something, and then the

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title of the interview is Zach Sabbath. Zach says he'd

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love to tour with next Sabbath. There's something I'm say.

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He was delighted about this guy, This guy's interviewing him

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was obviously like a Max Sabbath fan, so he's like,

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you know, wow, item, as far as I'm concerned, I

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felt bad.

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Well, I got a story similar to that. So I

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have over three thousand interviews. The interview that really, like

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every publication picked up and it went viral was with

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somebody I'm actually interviewing again next week. But it was

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with Carmine A Peace and he said in the interview,

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I don't even remember how it came up. He said, yeah,

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I don't think Black Sabbath was the original originators of

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heavy metal. Metallica was, and people went insane, okay, and like, okay,

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So I was at Metallica's first show ever. I used

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to hang out with them, Okay, they would never say that, okay,

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and influenced by Black Sabbath, no doubt, And come on,

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you know, like Tony Iomi getting into you know, having

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that accident, and you know, creating a new sound is

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heavy metal.

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And it changes the way you play guitar to the

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certain thing that becomes heavy metal. I think that that's

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pretty much.

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So I would think so too.

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And you no shade whatsoever, because he's a great dude.

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I'm just saying how how people reacted that they reacted

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just the same way you reacted. That's why I wanted

461
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:45.079
to bring it up, because you're more of an expert

462
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:47.640
because you're the manager of Max Sabbath, so you might

463
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:49.920
know a little bit about that.

464
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:51.559
Well, him and.

465
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:55.000
His brother can't even decide how their last name is pronounced.

466
00:28:55.000 --> 00:29:05.359
So it's why you should say that, because every time

467
00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:07.599
I say one of them, I'm like thinking to myself,

468
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:08.240
which one?

469
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:11.119
Which way do I pronounce it this time?

470
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:13.319
Account? You know?

471
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:19.799
Oh, oh my god, I better not put this interview

472
00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:21.759
out till after the next Seriace.

473
00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:26.160
Right, no, car, we love you both.

474
00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:28.440
Oh no, totally cool.

475
00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:30.039
Pronounce your name?

476
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:34.440
I think I think they should just come up with

477
00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:38.880
a universal pronunciation that's nothing like the ones they are now,

478
00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:41.119
Like they both have the same pronunciation.

479
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:48.160
It doesn't even sound like their name, right, Or maybe.

480
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:53.519
Maybe one of them could be uh Vanilisy and the

481
00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:58.160
other one could be uh blaxi or.

482
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:03.920
Then you know which ones which.

483
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:12.799
I think. Your question ten minutes ago was what is

484
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:17.160
it like seeing a Max Savage show? So it isn't

485
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:25.279
a reda size rock show crammed onto a stage, So

486
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:29.160
it's sort of this big theatrical experience of spilling over

487
00:30:29.359 --> 00:30:35.680
into the audience, and it's it's it's interesting because it's

488
00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:39.359
like wicked and metal, but it's still like it's still

489
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:42.519
clean enough for kids, because he wants the message to

490
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.640
go to the kids. It's got this you know, anti

491
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:48.960
fast food message, but that you have to like dig

492
00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:52.160
into the lyrics for that. It doesn't come off preachy.

493
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:56.480
It's really fun and over the top and hilarious and

494
00:30:56.680 --> 00:31:01.599
frightening all the same time. And he's flipping burgers off

495
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:05.160
of a smoking grill while he's singing, and there's like

496
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:12.039
giant inflatable burgers bouncing around on the audience, and and

497
00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:16.359
and he's doing like birthday party magic while he's singing,

498
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:21.880
and it's just it's a it's an amazing show. It's

499
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:25.200
it's a lot more than a rock band. It's like,

500
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:29.960
it's really hard to explain. Every person that's ever seen

501
00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.559
the show that's talked to me, whether it be for

502
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:35.920
the first time, whether it be a fan or an

503
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:39.200
agent or a promoter, and they all say the same

504
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:42.079
thing to me. They go, we saw it online, but

505
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:44.480
we had no idea what it was, and we did

506
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:46.039
not know what was going to be like this, So

507
00:31:46.079 --> 00:31:49.559
it's it's it's it really packs a big surprise. It's

508
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:51.079
really something that you have to see live.

509
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:55.440
Absolutely, And I just want to say to everybody, maybe

510
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:59.319
you're not in the Westbalm Beach area, that's cool. There's

511
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.680
other shows you can go to. There's either even other

512
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:06.359
shows in Florida, which is amazing because it's like we

513
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:09.039
live in Florida. We have to drive four hours ago

514
00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:10.720
as show because it'll only go here.

515
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:11.640
We're only going to.

516
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:16.240
This town and that's it, you know, And so you

517
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:18.839
know you'll be in West Palm, but you'll also be

518
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:22.240
in Tampa and Winter Park. So West Palm's on the

519
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:26.880
tenth of this month, April. April ninth is Tampa and

520
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:28.440
April a.

521
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:32.640
Week we're doing the Bosses Rock Cruise out of Miami too.

522
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:36.039
Yeah, there you go to that, and that's how much

523
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:37.519
fun are those cruises to do?

524
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:39.960
This is the third one we've done. It's really it's

525
00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:45.359
really amazing. Speaking of Zach, Black Label Society is playing, so.

526
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:50.200
Yeah, maybe you can make it happen there on the cruise.

527
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:52.359
Like in PROMPTU.

528
00:32:53.079 --> 00:32:55.480
Now I'm promoting that people need to if you haven't

529
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:58.200
gotten your ticket yet to Monsters of Rock. You need

530
00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:00.279
to go there in case it's happens, because it'd be

531
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:01.880
a once in a lifetime opportunity.

532
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:06.000
Well, it's funny you read the article. It makes it

533
00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:09.319
seem like, you know, Max Sabbath and Zach Sabbath might

534
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:09.920
tour together.

535
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:12.680
But the funny thing is we have this coming up

536
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:16.039
with that Zach band, and then we're playing on the

537
00:33:16.079 --> 00:33:20.559
Pantera stage at uh at Louder than Life.

538
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:26.000
Which is nice. So basically we're playing with every band

539
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:31.200
that Zach has butt Zach sap which which might be

540
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:35.559
better for redundancy as far it's like hearing all the

541
00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:37.000
same songs all night long.

542
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:40.720
I suppose right, And I'll be at Lower in Life.

543
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:42.960
I do that one every year. I love that festival.

544
00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:46.680
That's going to be a blast for sure. And so

545
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:50.119
I have one final question too, Okay, because you were

546
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:53.440
mentioning all the things are done on stage, if I

547
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:57.640
brought my grandkids. Now, mind you, one of my grandkids

548
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:01.799
that is into metal and pok is just turn fifteen,

549
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:03.799
So you know, I'm just being cleared.

550
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:05.440
I ain't like no two year old.

551
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:12.119
But if I bring my grandkids, will will Ronald throw

552
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:16.199
out some toys to the kids, like like when we

553
00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:22.519
get them this horrible crap we get them not normally.

554
00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:25.159
But if you, if you contact me, maybe I can

555
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:26.599
hook something like that up. You know.

556
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:30.599
Yeah see, but I don't mean just for my grandkids.

557
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:33.480
I just be in general. You could have like the

558
00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:35.079
Max Sabbath.

559
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:42.159
Terrible toy thing or something. I don't know. I like it.

560
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:47.000
I like, say, toys for toms. Yeah, there it is.

561
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:51.960
That's perfect. I love it. That could be your next tour.

562
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:54.480
I like it.

563
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:55.960
Uh.

564
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:58.199
Do you have a final words you want to say

565
00:34:58.199 --> 00:34:59.320
to the listeners?

566
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:03.880
Stay hungry? I mean, if you're choosing between the drive

567
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:08.960
through and real food, you know, stay hungry to you

568
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:11.199
can get to the real food, right.

569
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:15.559
Yeah, everybody check out Max Sabbath if you haven't checked

570
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:18.599
it out yet, and you gotta go see the live show.

571
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:20.199
It is an experience.

572
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:22.519
Stole that from Wendy Schneider.

573
00:35:23.519 --> 00:35:25.880
Say that again, So I feel like I might.

574
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:28.119
Have stole that line from Wen D Schnyder.

575
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:34.960
Never mind, maybe maybe we'll let that slide. Well, thanks

576
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:38.960
a lot, Mike, Uh, it certainly was an odd interview.

577
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:44.920
The pipe man nice, Yes, that's a blast every time.

578
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:46.199
We'll see you.

579
00:35:46.159 --> 00:35:50.440
On pronunciation of their name. I never thought i'd have

580
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:51.800
that conversation on the radio.

581
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:55.880
What about somebody's name? Yeah, well see, you never know.

582
00:35:56.480 --> 00:36:00.400
That's why I may be maybe my last his name

583
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:03.440
is odd too, so I'm like the odd pipe man,

584
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.000
not the odd couple man.

585
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:09.480
On W four c Y Radio.

586
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:15.559
You got it perfect. I love it.

587
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.440
Mis are better than at this, you know.

588
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:19.840
It might be.

589
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:22.679
And I can't wait till I pretend to be there

590
00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:27.760
at respectable street and uh dodging all of the burgers

591
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:28.559
flying at me.

592
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:32.679
I'll see you there, Bud later.

593
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599
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600
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601
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602
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603
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Man don four CY Radio, and I am very excited

604
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:43.039
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605
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:49.039
killer announcement here, first new album in twenty six years.

606
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:53.440
That's amazing. So let's welcome to the show. Ben from

607
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:58.800
Crimson Glory. Hey, everybody, So one thing I have to

608
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.199
say right off the bat. In it I started the interview,

609
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:04.920
I was looking over your right shoulder and seeing that

610
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:08.480
that in the background. I'm like, man, that is so cool.

611
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:11.280
I don't even know if I can focus on the interview.

612
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:15.280
It is kind of cool. I like, I want to

613
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:18.400
get one for behind me when I do do my interviews.

614
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:19.440
Yeah, why not?

615
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:20.639
Right?

616
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:24.960
So I just want to say, right off the bat,

617
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:30.119
what makes you after twenty six years wake up and

618
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:33.639
everybody wake up and decide, hey, let's put.

619
00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:34.400
A new album out.

620
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:37.679
Well, I think we've really been missing it for a

621
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:38.199
long time.

622
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:41.320
Jeff and Dana and I the three original guys, and

623
00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:44.519
you know, we often think about the old times with

624
00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:47.159
Crimson Glory, and I think we've just been missing it

625
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:48.400
wanting to get back to it.

626
00:38:49.400 --> 00:38:50.000
Yeah.

627
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:54.679
I don't blame you because I think about it, you know,

628
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:57.519
even as somebody that's media. I go on tour and

629
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:01.119
I do coverage of music festivals all over to US UK,

630
00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:06.760
and Europe, and I couldn't imagine not doing that. Like,

631
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.800
you know, it's like people say to me, how do

632
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:11.719
you do that? Or even my youngest story, I'll bring

633
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:13.719
her to a festival with me one time and it'll

634
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:15.960
be like halfway through the first day of a four

635
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:18.559
day festival and she's like, Dad, I don't know how

636
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:21.360
you do this. Every week I'm already done. And I'm like,

637
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:26.960
I would be depressed if I wasn't. When I come home,

638
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:28.639
I'm like, I don't even know what to do. I

639
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:30.559
just like seclude.

640
00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:33.559
Yeah, I agree with you. I love the lifestyle.

641
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:35.679
I love being over there in Europe in the summer

642
00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:39.000
and playing the festivals and meeting all the people. I mean,

643
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:42.280
it's such a you know, metal, such a lifestyle over there,

644
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:44.559
such a brotherhood totally.

645
00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:46.880
And I just did mean to you a coverage at

646
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:49.880
festival that not last week two weeks ago.

647
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:54.360
Uh? Did I believe you played at last year Hell's Heroes.

648
00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:56.920
Yeah, that was a great one. We had a great

649
00:39:56.960 --> 00:39:59.840
time there in Houston, you know what festival.

650
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:03.280
I had so much fun at that festival.

651
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:06.440
It was it was old school to me, okay, Like

652
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.760
it was so funny because you know.

653
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:12.920
I it as teenage years.

654
00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:17.039
I was like on the Sunset Strip and Troubadour and

655
00:40:17.480 --> 00:40:21.559
country Club in La and that whole scene, and and

656
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:25.440
it reminded me of that, like posting nowadays, it's very

657
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:28.599
kind of different. But even the fact that Okay, so

658
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:34.719
I was interviewing Tankard in the trailer and I ended

659
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:38.119
up like missing a bunch of sets for the rest

660
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:41.039
of the night because we did the interview, and then

661
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:44.119
after that, I was like, oh, we didn't even bring

662
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:47.760
a roadies with us, or anybody can you come take

663
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:51.920
pictures up on stage with us? Oh yeah, And then

664
00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:55.679
after we're done or like, hey, come on back, we'll

665
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:59.920
hang out. And it was like that kind of cool

666
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:03.039
vibe because that's what metal is. We're just one big

667
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:04.400
family of cool people.

668
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:06.840
And they're a bunch of German beer drinkers. So that

669
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:08.599
was probably a blast hanging out with them.

670
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:10.519
Oh yeah, oh my god.

671
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:14.599
Like I kept on handing them beers while we're on stage.

672
00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:18.360
They the camera on one hand, beer in the other.

673
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:21.320
They loved their beer as much as they love their metal.

674
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:21.960
In Germany.

675
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:23.920
Oh, I'm telling you that.

676
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:29.199
I remember during the interview they were like complained because

677
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:32.239
there wasn't enough beer in a fridge. Meanwhile, there was

678
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:34.920
a fridge full of beerd They're like, we'll be done

679
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.880
with that before we even go on Stage's larious.

680
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:40.880
Oh yeah, fun times, fun times.

681
00:41:41.440 --> 00:41:45.079
But I gotta tell you too, I've listened to your

682
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:50.119
latest song coming off the uh, you know, brand new album.

683
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:54.360
I'm like, oh, I'm just gonna be blunt. Oh my

684
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:59.519
fucking god, Like that brought me back to the eighties.

685
00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:02.679
Like I just felt like, oh my god, I haven't

686
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:06.000
heard music like that in a long time.

687
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:09.719
Yeah, I think people have been missing music like that.

688
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:11.480
Right, you know.

689
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:15.559
I find a lot of metal nowadays, the newer metal

690
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:19.400
they use like this formula I called an algebraic equation

691
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:22.559
to make metal. And it wasn't like that back in

692
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:26.880
the beginning and back in the eighties, you know, seventies, eighties,

693
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:30.400
it was like it was all experimental and all new.

694
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:33.079
So even if you were within the same genre of

695
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:35.800
another band, you didn't sound anything like them A lot

696
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:36.480
of the times.

697
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:40.519
Yeah, true, everybody had their own kind of style, their

698
00:42:40.559 --> 00:42:43.519
own identity as far as the sound of the band.

699
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:44.639
Yeah, totally.

700
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:50.000
So what I want to know is I'm always in

701
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:54.239
awe of artists like you that can come out all

702
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:59.679
these years later and create new music. Like like, I

703
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:03.719
think to myself, how they keep coming up with stuff

704
00:43:03.719 --> 00:43:06.039
to talk about, and.

705
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:08.559
Like there is a lot to talk about out there.

706
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:11.960
But how about you, Like, what's the difference now of

707
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:15.119
trying to write a song compared to when you were

708
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:17.400
a teenager trying to write a song?

709
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:21.639
Not much difference, you know. I think we've gotten better

710
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:23.840
at it over the years. We matured a little bit,

711
00:43:23.960 --> 00:43:27.079
you know, got a little smarter and wiser. So some

712
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:31.599
of the topics, you know, they grow from from cooler,

713
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:35.760
you know, aspects of things to write about.

714
00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.679
And you know, thank god, you get a little better

715
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:42.639
because if you've been doing this for most of your life,

716
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:45.280
if you didn't get better, that would be a problem.

717
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:45.519
You know.

718
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:47.840
Yeah, but I think we've progressed.

719
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:49.920
I think that is the case.

720
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:55.239
I think artists even sometimes look at differently than the fans, like,

721
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:58.840
especially if they're fans from the beginning, okay, because the

722
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:02.039
fans from the beginning they want you to stay a

723
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:02.960
garage band.

724
00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:05.599
I was one of those people too. You know.

725
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:08.639
There are bands I saw that are huge now that

726
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:10.679
I saw their first show ever.

727
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:13.280
I'm like, why aren't they like that? Now?

728
00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:13.760
Yeah?

729
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:17.280
You know, but I could also see the other side

730
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:20.440
that why would the artists want to be like that now?

731
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:23.159
Like you mean, you didn't evolve, you didn't get better

732
00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:25.360
at your craft, Like you didn't even know what you're

733
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:29.119
doing in the beginning, you know, So you know, why.

734
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:30.519
Would want you know?

735
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:34.880
So tell me.

736
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:40.880
One story, good or bad, crazy or not in this

737
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:46.280
whole musical career that you've had that you'll never forget,

738
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:50.159
that you would tell people till the day you're not here.

739
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:53.639
One story cood or bad.

740
00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:58.079
I remember one funny story when we played the Hammersmith

741
00:44:58.119 --> 00:45:01.039
Odeon in London, and it was, you know, kind of

742
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:03.199
a dream of ours to play there because we I

743
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:06.880
remember seeing like, you know, the Michael Shanker group live

744
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:09.159
from there and just other stuff like that when I

745
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:11.440
was a young teen. And when we got over there

746
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:13.400
and got the chance to play there, and we're like, wow,

747
00:45:13.480 --> 00:45:16.480
we're playing the Hammersmith. So a little bit before we

748
00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:19.039
were going to go on stage, they said, okay, it's

749
00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:21.159
time to go, and we started walking from the dress

750
00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:23.760
room area through all these halls to find the stage

751
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:26.519
and we just got lost in the maze of halls

752
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:27.519
back there, and.

753
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:29.360
We just could not find the stage.

754
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:32.920
We kept going down this hallway and turning around going back,

755
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:34.719
and then going this way and turn around.

756
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:35.440
That's not the way.

757
00:45:35.599 --> 00:45:38.039
We turned around to go back, and finally, after some

758
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:41.000
crazy confusion, we found the stage.

759
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:44.159
Oh my god, that is funny, and probably people are

760
00:45:44.159 --> 00:45:45.559
out there like where are they?

761
00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:49.519
Yeah, And this was in eighty seven. I think we

762
00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:53.000
finally came out on stage. There was one point during

763
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:56.079
the stage where Midnight came over and got underneath me.

764
00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:58.599
I suddenly realized. I looked down and saw his head

765
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:01.480
between my legs, underneath me on his knees, and he

766
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:03.960
was trying to lift me up on his shoulders to

767
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:06.280
carry me around the stage, kind of like bon Scott

768
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:09.920
used to do with Angus Young and Midnight tried to

769
00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:12.480
lift me up and he didn't have very much luck.

770
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:14.159
You know, he got me up a few inches and

771
00:46:14.199 --> 00:46:16.159
he just gave up and back back out and just

772
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:19.679
took off running across the stage. It was like a

773
00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:21.800
brief attempt to lift me on his shoulders that he

774
00:46:21.840 --> 00:46:25.519
gave up really quickly on because Midnight was Midnight.

775
00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:26.360
Was kind of a small guy.

776
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:28.280
He wasn't the guy that was going to be carrying

777
00:46:28.280 --> 00:46:29.880
anybody around on his shoulders.

778
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:32.239
That's what I'm saying. I'm a small dude, and I'm

779
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:35.599
listening to that. I'm like, yeah, it looked something.

780
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.679
Something came over him in the spur of the excitement,

781
00:46:39.719 --> 00:46:41.039
he thought he would try to do it.

782
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:45.440
Oh my god, just like I look at Ozzy when

783
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:47.920
he used to pick up Randy Rhodes home. I'm thinking now,

784
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:50.440
I think of later Ozzy.

785
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:53.719
I'm like, Randy was so tiny back then, you know.

786
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:55.559
I know, right exactly.

787
00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:58.199
That's two funny things that happened to us on the

788
00:46:58.199 --> 00:46:58.719
same night.

789
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:03.280
I love it, And so tell us a little bit

790
00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:06.800
about the new album from your perspective as the artists.

791
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:09.960
Well, this is something going into it.

792
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:12.079
We really wanted to try to touch back on the

793
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:17.440
on the creative style of Transcendence because we know it's

794
00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:19.719
kind of the favorite album of most of the fans,

795
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.599
and so we wanted to write songs that sort of

796
00:47:23.639 --> 00:47:28.360
reflected that the styling of it all. But again, like

797
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:30.800
we talked about a minute ago, we've kind of matured,

798
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:35.000
we've grown, we've we've progressed at what we do, so

799
00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:38.079
we're not exactly the same band. The album I think

800
00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:40.719
has more a lot more of a progressive nature to

801
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:44.480
it than their early two albums, and a little bit

802
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:49.800
more modern sounding, more more different time signatures and and

803
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:53.480
more different twists in the songs. But it but it

804
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:56.119
does really capture the overall essence of I think the

805
00:47:56.159 --> 00:48:00.679
first and second album more so Transcendence. So I hope

806
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:04.079
the fans are happy about that. You know, we just

807
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:06.480
had a blast making this record. They're all brand new

808
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:09.920
ideas we came up with in the last three years,

809
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:14.559
and nothing's really left over from the old days, which

810
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:16.920
maybe you were going to ask about that, but yeah,

811
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:21.119
everything's pretty fresh and I love it, very fresh within

812
00:48:21.159 --> 00:48:21.800
three years.

813
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:23.679
You know. Jeff Lordes wrote.

814
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:25.119
A lot of the songs, a lot of the music,

815
00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:27.480
and I co wrote a couple of the songs, came

816
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.280
up with some riffs and parts for some of the songs,

817
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:34.280
and Travis was a big writer on the record lyrics

818
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:35.679
and melodies as well.

819
00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:39.239
So that was the question that was the question was

820
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:44.639
gassd is, like, what do you think has changed for

821
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:49.480
creating this new music by having Travis and Mark in

822
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:52.840
the band now? Like I'm I always think that when

823
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:56.559
you have that kind of transformation that there's gonna be

824
00:48:56.719 --> 00:49:01.119
some new things added to the art Hillary, you know.

825
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:02.760
Yeah, absolutely.

826
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:06.440
I mean Travis is a really good writer, and that's

827
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:09.960
a plus, you know, because Jeff writes lyrics, Dana writ's lyrics.

828
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:11.760
I write some, but I mean having a singer that

829
00:49:11.800 --> 00:49:15.360
can really write and come up with some great melodies

830
00:49:15.360 --> 00:49:17.639
and lyrics, that's that's a big plus. And Travis can

831
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:20.800
do that. He's great at it. And you know Midnight

832
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:24.119
was great at that and you know, obviously there's only

833
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:27.800
one Midnight, there will only ever be one. But Travis

834
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:30.360
came into this with a kind of a fresh approach

835
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:34.559
and you know, did some really cool, interesting original things

836
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:37.480
as well as you know, tipping the hat to Midnight

837
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:41.199
a little bit here and there with some stylistic nuances.

838
00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:44.920
And then you know, talking about Mark, I mean he's

839
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:47.079
just a great fit for the band as well. You know,

840
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:50.199
he's a great player in his own right. John Drenning

841
00:49:50.320 --> 00:49:53.360
was fantastic, but Mark comes in with something different, you know,

842
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:58.360
a little unique to himself, and he created and wrote

843
00:49:58.360 --> 00:49:59.960
all his own solos for the record.

844
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:00.880
He's very creative.

845
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:05.960
God well, and I gotta say too, like okay what

846
00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:10.079
you said about Travis. I think it's important when a

847
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:14.360
singer writes the lyrics because there's a different emotion that

848
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:18.679
comes from it. You know, you're not singing somebody else's feelings,

849
00:50:18.719 --> 00:50:19.760
you're singing your own.

850
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:23.519
Yeah, I agree, And.

851
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:26.360
I do have to say too, like that was the

852
00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:31.800
earth thing I was gonna ask is, man, how I

853
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:36.480
can't even conceive of how, after you Know Midnight, how

854
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:40.519
you could possibly find such an awesome vocalist like Travis,

855
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:45.920
Because I'll tell you what that listening to him singing,

856
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:47.840
I was like, oh my god, I can't. I don't

857
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:50.280
even know anybody that can sing like that anymore.

858
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:53.639
Yeah, well, we.

859
00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:56.800
Certainly got lucky in finding Travis. He's a very unique

860
00:50:56.840 --> 00:51:00.920
and talented individual. So it's or blessing to have them

861
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:01.280
with us.

862
00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:06.199
Is there anything you want the listeners to know? Like,

863
00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:08.639
what would you want me to ask you? What would

864
00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:11.519
your answer be like that you want the listeners to know?

865
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:16.320
Well, I don't know.

866
00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:19.000
I never really think about the questions what they should

867
00:51:19.000 --> 00:51:23.159
be towards me. But no, I just want the listeners

868
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:26.480
to know that that we really did strive to make

869
00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:29.119
a new Crimson Glory album that would that would make

870
00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:29.960
the fans happy.

871
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:31.800
Because we've always had such.

872
00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:34.639
A long time connection with our fans and they're so

873
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:37.920
passionate about the band's music that the last thing we

874
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:40.679
wanted to do was put out anything that would disappoint them.

875
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:43.840
So we really, you know, strive to make this record

876
00:51:43.920 --> 00:51:47.880
something that the fans would really get into. Of course,

877
00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:51.480
with an artist, any artist, you really have to please

878
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:53.039
yourself before anybody else.

879
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:54.599
So we write to please ourselves.

880
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:57.920
Yeah, but if we can do that, if we know

881
00:51:58.000 --> 00:52:01.119
we've written something that that we think is is good,

882
00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:03.840
then we pretty we're pretty sure everyone else is gonna

883
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:04.639
love it too.

884
00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:08.400
I love what you just said because I'm a huge

885
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:12.159
believer in that, you know, and that that shows your

886
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:17.199
true musician. That that right there, because true musicians right

887
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:20.840
for themselves, and then yeah, they attract their tribe.

888
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:25.079
Yeah, not another way around exactly. We want our fans

889
00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:27.440
to be really in love with the music. But but

890
00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:29.960
we don't sit down and say, well, let's write a song,

891
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:31.320
what do you think they would like?

892
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:33.639
I mean, no, we have to. We have to write

893
00:52:33.679 --> 00:52:35.639
what we think is great, what we like, you.

894
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:40.079
Know, totally, And you guys got a bunch of uh

895
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:45.679
tour dates starting in May, and oh my god, Like,

896
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:50.440
how honored are you after all these years to be

897
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:55.079
playing vokin you know, like, I mean, that's a call

898
00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:56.199
you always want to get.

899
00:52:56.920 --> 00:52:59.960
Yeah, honestly, I'm very honored. Yeah, it's been a dream

900
00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:01.440
of mind to play that festival.

901
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:03.639
We've played a lot of cool festivals over the years,

902
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:06.400
but but it's always been a dream to play Vakan.

903
00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:09.119
So the fact that we got invited this year is uh,

904
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:12.159
it's just totally awesome for all of us. We can't

905
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:12.840
wait to be there.

906
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:16.840
And all your other dates they're all and like some

907
00:53:16.880 --> 00:53:20.960
of my favorite places and some great vessels and like Alcatraz.

908
00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:21.480
That's it.

909
00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:25.199
That's a festival that you guys fit right into perfect.

910
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:27.719
Yeah, And we played we played that one back in

911
00:53:27.760 --> 00:53:29.480
twenty twelve with Todd Laty.

912
00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:30.719
It's very cool festival.

913
00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:32.840
Nice well, bel Jim.

914
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:35.920
Yeah, I love that you have new music.

915
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:37.199
It's badass.

916
00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:41.039
Uh, it's so killer that you're still around. And h

917
00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:44.280
I thank you for being on the Adventures of pipe

918
00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:45.679
Man right on.

919
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:48.320
Thank you for having me. Great talking with you today.

920
00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:49.239
My pleasure.

921
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:50.000
Hi.

922
00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:52.440
This has Ben Jackson of Crimson Glory and you're listening

923
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