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Sept. 21, 2026

MacSabbath at Louder Than Life: Metal, Madness, and Fast Food Puns with Pipeman

MacSabbath at Louder Than Life: Metal, Madness, and Fast Food Puns with Pipeman

In this lively and offbeat episode of The Adventures of Pipeman on W4CY Radio, Pipeman sits down for a hilarious and unpredictable conversation with the manager of the parody band MacSabbath. The conversation covers their wild experiences at the Louder Than Life Festival, rock and metal culture, and the surreal blend of food, music, and humor that only MacSabbath brings. Expect festival stories, band mashups, and plenty of riffs on pop culture, fast food, and heavy metal classics.Main Topics Covered

  • Louder Than Life Festival Recap: Experiences performing and attending, wild crowd moments, and the impact of the heat and weather.
  • MacSabbath and Band Crossovers: Interactions with other acts (Zakk Wylde, Gwar, Iron Maiden, Anthrax, Tool, Pantera), humorous speculation about collaborations, and onstage antics.
  • Parody Band Mashups: Creating food-inspired band names and stories (Metal Church’s Chicken, Suicidal Tendon-See’s Candies, Papa John’s Roach, My Chemical Cool Ranch, and more).
  • Rock Star Anecdotes: Encounters with Zakk Wylde, Ozzy Osbourne references, and fun behind-the-scenes tales.
  • Festival Challenges: Enduring the heat, weather emergencies (“code red” and “code orange”), and backstage stories.
  • Collectibles and Festival Swag: Discussions about Happy Meal toys, floaty drink accessories, and microplastics.
  • Pop Culture Tangents: References to Tabitha and Darren Stevens (“Bewitched”), Gilligan’s Island, In-N-Out Burger, Danny Elfman, Oingo Boingo, and Star Trek cast music careers.
  • Upcoming Tours: Announcements about MacSabbath’s October headlining tour and guests (Clownvis Presley, Dak Descantes).
Key Discussions & StoriesLouder Than Life Festival Highlights
  • Pipeman reminisces about nearly missing MacSabbath’s set at Louder Than Life and jokes about rumors of crowd members mistaking Zakk Wylde for a Big Mac 00:31.
  • Hilarious discussion about a supposed interview headline: “Zakk Sabath—uh, Zakk Wylde loves MacSabbath and wants to tour with them” 01:57.
  • Both agree Zakk Wylde is “one of the nicest dudes” and reflect on the advice “don’t meet your idols”—turned upside down by Zakk’s personality 02:23.
  • Stories about Ozzy Osbourne’s health, Zakk’s role as a “guardian angel,” and emotional moments reading about their bond 02:59.
  • Describing the challenges of performing and interviewing in extreme heat and the joy of a temporary weather evacuation (“code red” = air conditioning) 08:27.
Band Mashups, Food, and Festival Antics
  • Ongoing joke about Gwar possibly “eating” MacSabbath on their tour together; is it blood or ketchup? 04:44
  • Imagining Gwar burgers (“Guarbies”) and McGwar Nuggets as potential food items for fans 05:54.
  • Festival fun: McSabbath video game ideas discussed as a potential project 07:01.
  • Speculation and laughter about contract clauses preventing Zakk Sabbath and MacSabbath from playing the same festivals 12:23.
  • Suggestion that Burger King and Gwar's onstage antics could merge for a hilarious show 19:44.
  • Several new food-themed band names, including Flamin’ Jacks, Metal Church’s Chicken, and Papa John’s Roach (shut down “for too many roaches”) 20:30.
Memorable Festival Moments & Pop Culture References
  • Commentary on the massive festival crowd (“240,000 of my closest friends”) and MacSabbath’s surprise at performing on a main stage equally sized to Iron Maiden’s 15:12.
  • Iron Maiden’s unexpected setlist of early-era songs, impressing even seasoned festivalgoers 16:22.
  • Tangents include: In-N-Out BKUrge bumper stickers, the magic of Danny Elfman and Oingo Boingo, “Bewitched” and its cast, Gilligan’s Island, and wild festival swag stories (Happy Meal toys, drink floaties, microplastics, and pennies in Coca-Cola) 21:13.
MacSabbath’s Tour and Notable Guests
  • Announcement of an October headlining run with Clownvis Presley (Elvis clown) and Dak Descantes (“sexy Mexican Devo”) as support 45:25.
  • Reflections on previous tours (“Clown Power”), lockdown livestreams, and what it’s like to share the stage with such eclectic performers 46:19.
Notable Quotes
  • “Fuck these people that say don’t meet your idols…Zakk Wylde…you’re the nicest guy ever, man.” — Pipeman 02:28
  • “Is it blood, or is it ketchup?” — Crowd speculation during Gwar/Tour with MacSabbath 04:44
  • “You do deserve a break today, just not this day.” — Pipeman 06:40
  • “How cool would it be…for blood for blood, it would be those two [Ronald and Burger King] that go at it.” — Pipeman 10:16
  • “Taco Hell’s bells would be ringing.” — In response to a Taco Bell/MacSabbath collaboration 24:29
  • “Dark snack wave, I think.” — Defining a new music subgenre 25:24
  • “Maybe the louder part would be the crickets.” — On what would happen if Pipeman tried singing at Louder Than Life 44:37
  • “That was the McSabbath minute. Thanks for being in it.” — Show close 47:53
Resources & Links Mentioned
  • MacSabbath Tour Dates: October headlining shows (with guests Clownvis Presley and Dak Descantes); check MacSabbath’s official social channels for tickets and info.
  • Clownvis to the Rescue: Clownvis Presley’s YouTube livestream series 46:19.
  • Referenced Books: Ozzy Osbourne’s “Last Rites” 02:50.
  • Festivals: Louder Than Life, Welcome to Rockville, Riot Fest.


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Hey, you're listening to Adventure on W4CY Radio.

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This is the Pipe Man here on the Adventure's Pipe

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Man W4CY Radio, and I am traveling back in time

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to this last weekend where I was doing media.

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Coverage at Louder Than Life, but I.

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I really wanted to go back and see a set

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of one of my favorite acts at louder than life.

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McSabbath.

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And, uh, I listen, I have, I have the manager

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with me of these odd balls.

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And so maybe we.

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Could talk a little bit about how great it was

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at ladder in life, especially I heard a rumor that

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somebody in the crowd ate Zach wild. Cause he, because

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they thought they thought he was a big mac.

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I don't know if that's uh exactly true but somewhere

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in there there's some truth in there somewhere i think.

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I i did interview zach wild and i have to

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listen back to the interview because i i think i

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might have when i was talking about zach sabbath i

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might have said mac sabbath so I think he's now

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an honorary member of the band.

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There was this interview with Zach, and the guy, and

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he was like a big Mac Sabbath fan, I'm guessing,

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that was interviewing Zach, and he said, what do you

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think of Mac Sabbath? And he goes, oh, you know,

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they're great, you know, love to tour with them at

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some point or something. Probably just being polite, right? And

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And this guy printed the article and the headline said,

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Zach Sabbath, Zach Wild loves Mac Sabbath and wants to

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tour with them, was the headline of the interview. Wow.

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All this poor guy, like, trying to be nice.

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Well, I will say that Zach is like one of

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the nicest dudes, man. oh my god he was unbelievably

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nice you know it just goes to show fuck these

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people that say don't meet your idols because man I

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met this dude and I was like fucking hey you're

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the nicest guy ever man.

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Yeah yeah he's amazing it was really neat I don't

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know if you read Ozzy's book Blessed Rites but it

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was he kind of plays his guardian angel in the,

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you know what I mean? It's pretty cool hearing like

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the interactions of things that happened with Ozzy's health and

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Zach is very interesting.

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Yeah, that's pretty cool.

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And you know, it's interesting too. Like I did say

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to Zach, like I saw Randy Rhodes.

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Okay.

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And I tell him, you know, I saw Randy Rhodes, uh,

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dude because he was just like amazing. And I told

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him in the middle of the interview, I'm like, you

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definitely were the right. I've seen all the guitars through

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the years and you were the right one to fill

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the shoes, man. And he, I think I almost made

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him cry because he, I mean, what kind of compliment

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is that bad? Like fucking you're as awesome or more

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than Randy Rhodes.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, man, I was definitely tearing up

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reading about, um, Zach and Ozzy in that book. It

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was really, um, some, some really good stuff in there,

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but yeah.

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I mean, I didn't even want, I felt I, I

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didn't even want to bring much up about Oz because

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I knew it would be something that like would be

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pulling on the heartstrings.

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It's still pretty fresh, you know?

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And, uh, man, I think you guys should go on tour.

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But I'm kind of afraid of your tour with GWAR.

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I want to know if GWAR is going to eat

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Mac Sabbath.

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Yeah, I have no idea how that's going to work out.

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But it's like, is it blood or is it ketchup?

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Is it blood or is it ketchup? You know, like.

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I interviewed Warren. They left a whole shitload of blood

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on one of my interview seats, man.

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Oh, yeah?

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Yeah, yeah.

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That was pretty rude, man. Clean up after yourself, will you?

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These aliens, these aliens, they don't know how to clean

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up after themselves.

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They just shit on our planet, man.

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Yeah, I'm wondering how messy, literally messy, that's going to

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be to navigate that tour. It's like, you know, just imagining, like,

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you know, Grumalis being, you know, horribly stained and having

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to scrub him every night.

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I wonder what guarburgers would be like on the barbecue, though.

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Well, Ronald calls them guarbies, so.

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So in his mind, I guess it's barbecue sauce. You know,

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I don't know. We'll see.

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Well, I will tell you though. Okay. So they had

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a new thing. They have this dinosaur now. Okay.

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And I was thinking about it.

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Like when I get my grandkids chicken nuggets, they're always

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shaped in the shape of dinosaurs.

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So maybe they could be the McGuire nuggets.

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They were Gorgor nuggets all along. Right?

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Question is, do we eat them with barbecue sauce or

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sweet and sour sauce?

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Oh, man.

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I don't even know how you do it with these

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dudes every day.

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I'm sure you get a break, but you know.

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I deserve a break today.

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You do deserve a break today. Just not this day

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no not this day at all oh my god but the.

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Screen room at louder than life is nice.

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So yeah totally it looks like you know you might

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have a video game there too like the meg sabbath

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video game there needs to be the meg sabbath video

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game that would be i would buy that video game.

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I've i've heard jail of people wanting to do things

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like that i don't know we'll see.

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That would be kind of cool.

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That's a little modern for us, but yeah, I don't know.

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We'll see.

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I renamed Louder Than Life anyway. The festival is now

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called Hotter Than Life.

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Yes.

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Oh my God.

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How was your band cooking up barbecue up there?

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It was so hot, man.

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It was hard for them, but harder for bands that

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played later like we we actually had a pretty sweet

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spot because later watching like anthrax trying to deal with

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the the blazing sun actually beating on the stage where

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the sun when they were out there was actually pretty

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kind um and that's good and our set time was

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shorter but watching anthrax playing their longer set with the

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sun beating on them And watching Joey just handle that

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like a champ was really something. I talked to him afterwards.

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I was like, I'm sorry. That was rough. He's like,

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start running out into the crowd to make it even worse.

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And I was like, yeah, you look like you're going

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to die. Oh, yeah.

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Everybody I interviewed, I'm like, how the fuck do you

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do that, man? Like, how do you play in that heat?

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I'm just sitting there. Listen, it's the first time ever

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I was praying for a code red so I could

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get in the air conditioning.

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And it happened.

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You got it on day two.

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Yeah, yeah. That's because of me. Okay.

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It was right in the middle of an interview. And

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I'm like, thank God. I'm out of here. I'm going

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to air conditioning. Interview over.

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But, okay.

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Now, the trickery later that day, though, you know, there was,

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there was, I, it was the longest code orange in history.

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I went out to get something to eat. I thought

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things were safe. And then all of a sudden it's

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code orange. I'm like running back in the rain to

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media because usually it's like 30 seconds later, your code red.

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And then I was about to do an interview and

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they were like, yeah, you, I hope you get one

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question out of it.

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I get to do the whole interview.

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I think maybe the evacuation gods wanted to make sure

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that my chem played so that the emos would not

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freak out and do a total meltdown cry at Louder

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Than Life.

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Well also I think that the metal gods were shining

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down because the weather was so rough that I know

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that Ronald got out of there and that was a

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good thing because if Ronald crossed passes with Burger King

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Diamond that would have.

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Been a problem yeah I'd like to see that though

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you know at Welcome to Rockville they had this new

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pre event blood for blood.

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It was bare knuckle fighting and Alex, a terrible, like, uh,

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got beat pretty bad in the headline fight, but how

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cool would it be if this coming year, I'm putting

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this out to Danny Wimmer that for the blood for blood,

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it would be those two that go at it.

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It's funny. You mentioned welcome to Rockville. Um, Well, I'm

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not allowed to say anything about Welcome to Rockville.

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I won't tell anybody. It's just between us.

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All I can tell you is good things are coming

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to Welcome to Rockville next year. That's all I can say.

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Does that mean we're going to have free burgers for everybody?

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I've already said too much.

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Oh my God.

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And this picture that's behind me, you know, the part

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that's cut out is the people that were running to

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the Mac Sabbath set because they were running away from

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the food vendors because they were all GMO.

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Thank you for that. That is true. That is truer

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than life.

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Truer than life. Hotter than life. Truer than life. Like,

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forget the louder than life shit.

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I just want to know how Mac Sabbath and Zach

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Sabbath both play at the same festival and there's nothing

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that goes wrong well maybe something did go.

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Wrong well technically although Zach played twice it was two

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out of three technically Zach Sabbath didn't play but.

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Well, that's true. Zach Sabbath, that's right.

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Because he has to play, Zach Sabbath has to play

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at Aftershock because from what I heard, you can verify

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if this is true or not.

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And I didn't hear it from anybody.

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It just came from the voices in my head that

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Zach Sabbath couldn't play at Louder Than Life because it

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was in Max Sabbath's contract.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, we have a radius clause. Yeah, radius

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clause excluding Zach Sabbath. No, no, that would get me

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further from the truth.

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It's kind of like.

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The clause says we will not play any show unless

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Zach Sabbath is playing.

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Oh, okay. So you violated your own clause.

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We made an exception since he was playing in two

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other bands. We were like, all right.

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Yeah, you know, that's tough work doing that. And he

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has to put on his eyeliner and his rouge and

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his pantyhose and everything twice.

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He did literally say that at the end of the interview. Okay,

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I'm going to go back now.

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What's going on?

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At the end of the interview, because, you know, he

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had to get ready to go perform Pantera.

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He's like, okay, I got to go now.

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I got to get my eyeliner on, my rouge, my

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fishnet stockings.

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Yeah, I get it. Yeah, that's great.

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And it made all the sense in the world right

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then and there.

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There it is. Pantera bread.

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Yep, there it is.

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I literally would have liked to seen like Mac Sabbath

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just run on the Pantera stage and just cause.

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I was actually commenting about a similarity between Zach and

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Ronald is he has these like, um, very large, uh,

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eyelids on his, on his cut on his, on his vest,

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you know, and we're very large, uh, studs on his,

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on his guitar strap. Like they, they all, you know,

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it's very large chain. So it kind of reminds me

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of Ronald's large zipper. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Sort of oversized kind of costume.

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The large boots.

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Yeah, yeah. Large boots, clown shoes, you know. Yeah, they

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got that good fun. They're louder than life!

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Louder than life. Seriously, how much fun was that, though?

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I think there was like 240,000 people at Louder Than Life,

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I heard.

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For 240,000? Yeah.

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That's insane. 240,000 of my closest friends. Fantastic.

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Yeah, I mean, one thing that I wasn't ready for

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is I, you know, I assumed that it was sort

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of like second stage, you know? So I was like, oh, okay,

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you know, there'll be the big Iron Maiden stage and

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there'll be a smaller stage. But they were the exact

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same size and it was just back and forth. It

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was basically the same stage.

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Exactly. Exactly.

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Exact same size and I was like wow okay so

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like so Mac is just as large as Maiden in

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this thing.

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Well I don't even know why Maiden headlined it should

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have been Mac Sabbath okay.

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That was another thing in our contract but we made

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a compromise because you know because Iron Maiden has agreed

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to play so many classic songs that.

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I was actually kind of impressed because they played in

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the beginning a lot of old stuff that I like.

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Yeah, there was like... They opened up with, what, five

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DeAnno-era songs?

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Exactly.

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I was blown away by that. I've seen them a

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million times. I've never seen them do that many DeAnno songs.

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I figure... for what the times that I've seen them,

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I don't remember them doing any Deanna Deanna songs since

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the eighties.

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Probably not. Yeah.

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Like, uh, seeing, um, uh, uh, what's it called? Uh,

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the power slave tour that ended up being the live album.

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Yeah.

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That one, you know, maybe they did three or something,

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but like, wow. To do.

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I mean, they started with Rothschild. Like that was killer.

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I was like, holy shit. Every time, every song, I

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was like, holy shit. Because, you know, when you do

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as many festivals as I do, you're rarely surprised by

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a band's set.

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Absolutely. I feel the same way. I was so blown

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away by Iron Maiden's set. I was like, wow.

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And Tool, I wasn't surprised by their set at all.

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It was exactly what it always is.

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And I spent the whole time trying to find Maynard.

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I was thinking to myself, oh, my God, did Gwar

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eat Maynard?

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Oh, wait. Maybe Mac Sabbath cooked him up on the grill.

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You could find him easy.

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I did end up seeing him. You know why I

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ended up seeing him? At the very end when he

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was walking off to stage. But you want to know

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some irony? I don't know if I should say this.

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I'm not going to mention names. I'm just going to

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let you figure it out. But I was hanging out

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with this great phenomenal bassist that was also playing in

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a metal that's the only hint I'm given band at

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Louder Than Life watching this other mega band.

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And I just thought the irony of that.

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Oh, I don't know if you got what I put

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down there, but there were two very big heads there.

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I think so. I think I got it.

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Right.

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But yeah, I thought that, I thought that was pretty

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cool and big of the, the dude watching it with me.

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Like, Well, I have watched, I have literally with my

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own eyes watched Steve Herring watch Grim Alice play. And

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that was amazing for me to be able to watch.

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Nice.

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And that was, you know, on a boat. Wow. So

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it had like, you know, nautical, it's very nautical.

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I just thought of something.

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When you guys are on tour with GWAR, you know,

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they always like kill people on stage. I think you

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should bring the Burger King on.

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On stage.

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Oh, Burger King diamond. Yeah.

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And kill the Burger King on stage.

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We'll have to work that out.

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Right.

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We'll see if he's not busy with, uh, uh, my

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chemical cool ranch and, uh, Oh my.

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God, that's cool. That's great.

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My chemical cool ranch.

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So, let's see.

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Who else can we think of that played at Laird

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and Life that should have a better, cooler name? What

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other bands that played at Laird and Life can you

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give a cooler name to?

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Well, there was Flammable Axe, there was Metal Church's Chicken,

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there was Suicidal Tendon, See's Candies.

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There's, you know, There you go.

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Papa John's Roach didn't show up. No, no.

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Papa John's Roach got shut down by having too many roaches.

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The health department shut him down.

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Western exterminator.

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I want to.

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Know what prize at Later in Life you would get

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in a Happy Meal.

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Ooh.

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I know there were these things that bartenders were hanging out.

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Earplugs.

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Earplugs.

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Well, how about this?

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They were handing out at certain places with drink and

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the bartenders, these little floaty things that were like this

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big and it floats in your drink. That would be

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the perfect Happy Meal toy.

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That's super toxic.

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It's something that's small enough that you can swallow and

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choke on it.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds dangerous in so many ways.

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I mean, as if it would be worse than the

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Sprite that it's floating in, but maybe it would, the

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Sprite probably disintegrated.

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Right.

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And then you just mainlining those microplastics, you know.

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Yeah, it's kind of like, I used to love when

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I was younger putting pennies in Coca-Cola.

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Really? That sounds healthy.

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Yeah, it's gone.

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It's gone by the time you get to the bottom

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of the glass. You know, we all need a little

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bit of copper in our body. Like, we're deficient in copper,

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so I thought I was.

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Coke ends up costing you 38 cents instead of 37 cents.

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Right.

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I can't even do it anymore because they won't make

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these pennies anymore. I went before Congress and argued with

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them that I need those pennies in my Coca-Cola, man.

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Don't stop making them, please.

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You know, it's funny. I remember putting pennies in, I

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think it was Taco Bell sauce.

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Really?

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Yeah. Back in the day, it wasn't like a packet.

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It was like a little plastic bucket.

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Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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The same as the barbecue sauce at, you know, McSabbath.

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Yeah.

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And you could throw the penny in there and you'd

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wait like, I don't know, four seconds or something and

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the penny would be shiny clean, right? And I think

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that's why they moved the packet because they're like, it's

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too easy to prove that this stuff cleans pennies. So

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we're going to make, they can't put penny inside a packet.

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But that'll have a dual purpose, man.

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The intention of the packet of condiment was to hide

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the fact that condiments were so toxic that they were

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shining metal, I believe. But, I mean, don't quote me

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on that.

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I just say it's dual purpose, that's all. That's it.

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It saves me money. I don't have to buy a cleaner.

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I just go to Taco Bell. It cleans everything. It

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cleans everything out of your stomach. And it cleans everything else.

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You know? It's true. I really want to know. It is.

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Hmm.

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What would it be like if Taco Bell and McSabbath

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combined forces?

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Ooh.

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Ouch.

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Ouch. i uh i don't want to know would be

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like taco hell's bells would be.

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Ringing it'd be like it would be like the uh

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a mexican mcnugget.

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Well you know um what's what are they called uh

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um bow house of pancakes you know that band bow

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house of pancakes they have that song uh Taco Bella

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Lugosi's dead. You know what I'm talking about? We're off

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on another subgenre.

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Boy, you're really good. I don't even know what subgenre

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that is. Is that New Wave?

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Is that New Wave?

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Dark Snack Wave, I think it is.

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There it.

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Is.

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So I want to know what was the best part

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and the worst part of Louder Than Life?

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Well, you know what the worst part was? The worst

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part for everybody was the weather in many, many, many ways.

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Fuck, I had to come home to South Florida to

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cool off. Like, who does that? I'm like, I can't

428
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wait to get home to cool off. Hilarious. That never happens.

429
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was bad.

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It was so hot, I turned down sex because it

431
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was too hot.

432
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No, it's too hot. Sorry.

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Yeah, Ronald said the same thing about food. Um.

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Yeah, yeah. So the heat was definitely unbearable. I just

435
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didn't know exactly how it was going to go. They

436
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never really played a metal festival this big. I mean,

437
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we did the year before. We did Riot Fest. But

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there was some wiggle room there because it was like

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the Weird Al Yankovic stage. You know what I mean? Totally. Totally.

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You sort of knew that everyone was going into it

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with a sense of humor. You know what I mean?

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And so I'm like, okay, well, we got like Iron

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Maiden and Pandera Bread and Flanthrax. Like, you know, we

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got a coming Gojira. This is a pretty like serious,

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serious crowd, right? So Master Domino's, right? So I'm like, shit.

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I don't know I'm you know hoping that like the

447
00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:34.509
you know the crowd will be good natured and then

448
00:27:35.369 --> 00:27:37.529
man when they were setting up and I heard I

449
00:27:37.829 --> 00:27:43.029
don't know how many thousands of people chanting Ronald that

450
00:27:43.069 --> 00:27:45.509
was the best part for me because I was like

451
00:27:45.970 --> 00:27:49.059
oh we're in nice.

452
00:27:50.920 --> 00:27:54.200
And you know I think Riot Fest wanted you back

453
00:27:54.259 --> 00:27:57.950
this year And you turned them down for Louder Than Life,

454
00:27:58.509 --> 00:28:01.289
so they settled for Captain James T.

455
00:28:01.390 --> 00:28:01.750
Kirk.

456
00:28:02.230 --> 00:28:06.170
That's what happened. That's how he got our seconds.

457
00:28:06.630 --> 00:28:10.670
He got your slot. Oh, my God.

458
00:28:11.750 --> 00:28:14.710
Like, when I first heard that, I really was like,

459
00:28:14.730 --> 00:28:17.109
because I cover Riot Fest, too. And this year was

460
00:28:17.150 --> 00:28:20.069
the same week. And I was like, oh, man, now

461
00:28:20.089 --> 00:28:22.529
I have to make a choice. Turns out I made

462
00:28:22.569 --> 00:28:24.890
the right choice because as bad as our weather was,

463
00:28:24.970 --> 00:28:27.150
Riot Fest weather was a lot worse.

464
00:28:27.549 --> 00:28:28.089
Wow!

465
00:28:28.109 --> 00:28:29.650
How funny was that?

466
00:28:30.910 --> 00:28:31.230
Right?

467
00:28:31.529 --> 00:28:35.039
And then on top of that, I watched some videos

468
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:37.279
of Captain James T.

469
00:28:37.339 --> 00:28:41.019
Kirk doing metal. Oh my God. It was so funny.

470
00:28:42.299 --> 00:28:46.099
He was singing the songs the same way he talks.

471
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:47.420
Like that.

472
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:49.039
That's him, yeah.

473
00:28:49.539 --> 00:28:53.759
You know, it was like, War Pigs.

474
00:29:02.220 --> 00:29:04.450
That's the thing. I mean, when he originally, the first

475
00:29:04.569 --> 00:29:07.809
album he did, I believe was like a series called

476
00:29:07.890 --> 00:29:12.109
Golden Throats, you know? So I think it was like sarcasm,

477
00:29:12.349 --> 00:29:17.700
you know? So that's like his thing. And I think

478
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:19.650
that Spock did one too, didn't he?

479
00:29:20.329 --> 00:29:24.250
Did he really? Oh my god, that's too funny. They

480
00:29:24.970 --> 00:29:26.509
should have done one together.

481
00:29:26.750 --> 00:29:31.000
He can sing because he has that Hobbit song. You

482
00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:31.700
know what I'm talking about?

483
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:33.460
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

484
00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:40.740
Bilbo, Bilbo. You know things that song about Bilbo Baggins. Yeah.

485
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:46.940
I was very excited about Danny Elfman too. He was incredible.

486
00:29:47.339 --> 00:29:48.940
He was. And check this out.

487
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:55.589
I saw Oingo Boingo in 1980 in my high school gymnasium,

488
00:29:55.670 --> 00:29:57.450
Westlake High in California.

489
00:29:57.470 --> 00:29:57.569
Yeah.

490
00:29:58.380 --> 00:30:00.160
They played an assembly.

491
00:30:01.210 --> 00:30:03.950
Wow. That's amazing. I saw them in the eighties as well,

492
00:30:03.970 --> 00:30:05.730
but later than that. Yeah. Yeah.

493
00:30:05.789 --> 00:30:11.109
I saw him open for the police to 1983, but man,

494
00:30:11.250 --> 00:30:12.609
he was amazing.

495
00:30:12.650 --> 00:30:14.009
It was so cool.

496
00:30:14.549 --> 00:30:18.799
And how he combined like every part of him, you know,

497
00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:19.660
up there.

498
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:23.900
He looks great. It's like, what is going on there?

499
00:30:24.119 --> 00:30:25.339
What kind of, I know. Right.

500
00:30:25.900 --> 00:30:27.799
What kind of barbecue sauce is that?

501
00:30:28.660 --> 00:30:34.400
Exactly. I, but I did hear that when, when Ronald

502
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:37.920
was turning his back and Danny was sneaking up on

503
00:30:38.029 --> 00:30:40.890
stage during the set and taking all the burgers off

504
00:30:40.930 --> 00:30:41.789
of the barbecue.

505
00:30:45.650 --> 00:30:48.309
You got to watch out for those Danny Keebler Elfman,

506
00:30:48.529 --> 00:30:48.849
you know?

507
00:30:49.470 --> 00:30:52.849
Well, he probably is like a, has meta powers.

508
00:30:52.950 --> 00:30:56.150
So that's why he's Elfman because he just like does

509
00:30:56.269 --> 00:30:59.029
one of these. And he turns into an elf and

510
00:30:59.069 --> 00:31:01.430
he can sneak up and steal the burgers.

511
00:31:02.069 --> 00:31:10.579
Is that Tabitha that you just did? These younger viewers

512
00:31:10.660 --> 00:31:13.140
are not going to pick up on that. You realize that,

513
00:31:13.180 --> 00:31:13.700
Pipe Man?

514
00:31:14.259 --> 00:31:15.220
No, they're not.

515
00:31:17.049 --> 00:31:19.670
You totally pulled a Tabitha. That is hilarious.

516
00:31:23.660 --> 00:31:25.640
I don't even know where that came from. Like I

517
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:29.150
channeled my inner Tabitha. I think I'm going to have to,

518
00:31:29.410 --> 00:31:31.650
I think I'm going to have to change my pronouns now.

519
00:31:34.789 --> 00:31:36.109
I love it. That was great.

520
00:31:39.289 --> 00:31:43.900
Question is which Karen Stevens will it be?

521
00:31:44.180 --> 00:31:47.900
Yes. Dick, which Dick?

522
00:31:49.259 --> 00:31:54.730
I think, I think Eminem's coming out with a new song.

523
00:31:55.049 --> 00:31:59.009
Will the real Darren Stevens please stand up?

524
00:32:04.859 --> 00:32:07.500
There's actually a song about that from a guy named

525
00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:11.779
Fish Karma. And he goes, Dick York, where did you go?

526
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:17.950
Dick Sergeant, where Dick York should be? They still have

527
00:32:18.089 --> 00:32:20.289
no idea what we're talking about. You realize this.

528
00:32:25.359 --> 00:32:26.799
Oh my God. Oh my God.

529
00:32:26.819 --> 00:32:30.599
Magic too, but they still have no idea what we're

530
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:31.200
talking about.

531
00:32:31.220 --> 00:32:33.539
I mean, I'm going to say something I wouldn't normally

532
00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:36.160
say cause I'm a Gen Xer, but I really hope

533
00:32:36.180 --> 00:32:39.829
there's some boomers listening to this.

534
00:32:40.269 --> 00:32:44.430
Let's hope they tuned out like five minutes ago. Right.

535
00:32:45.700 --> 00:32:52.920
You're making fun of my childhood. Did I tell you

536
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:56.200
the story, though, about Marianne from Gilligan's Island?

537
00:32:56.759 --> 00:32:57.960
Please do. She's my favorite.

538
00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:03.480
Oh, so I did this. She was the one I

539
00:33:03.539 --> 00:33:07.119
had a crush on, not not the other one. And

540
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:13.000
so I was doing a festival. I was doing a

541
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:17.019
festival in Louisiana. OK, like this whole thing. Mac Sabbath

542
00:33:17.039 --> 00:33:21.019
should have played at this festival because the festival was

543
00:33:21.180 --> 00:33:25.029
run by the, the real voice of Scooby and Shaggy,

544
00:33:25.569 --> 00:33:31.490
like the real person. He came on my show. No, no,

545
00:33:31.549 --> 00:33:34.549
before him or after him or whatever.

546
00:33:34.589 --> 00:33:35.130
I don't know.

547
00:33:38.660 --> 00:33:43.039
So anyway, and they had all the, it was in Louisiana.

548
00:33:43.059 --> 00:33:46.059
I have one of my students and was, is in Louisiana. Uh,

549
00:33:47.009 --> 00:33:49.910
I'm a Yankee and an Italian Jew.

550
00:33:49.930 --> 00:33:50.569
I have no.

551
00:33:50.470 --> 00:33:53.470
Business in Louisiana, so that was the last time I

552
00:33:53.490 --> 00:33:56.589
was in Louisiana was this festival, okay? It was kind

553
00:33:56.630 --> 00:33:59.589
of scary. It was kind of scary for me, I'm

554
00:33:59.650 --> 00:34:04.170
going to admit. But they had the Dukes of Hazzard

555
00:34:04.190 --> 00:34:04.839
people there.

556
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:05.960
By the way, I.

557
00:34:05.910 --> 00:34:14.000
Might get canceled for this, but Daisy Dukes wears, like,

558
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:18.969
10 Daisy Dukes now because one just ain't going to

559
00:34:19.030 --> 00:34:19.389
cut it.

560
00:34:20.429 --> 00:34:24.610
Just saying. But anyway, Barbara Eden was there.

561
00:34:24.630 --> 00:34:27.989
Barbara Eden? No.

562
00:34:28.050 --> 00:34:28.809
Another one?

563
00:34:29.309 --> 00:34:32.469
Barbara Eden because she was kind of like the second

564
00:34:32.530 --> 00:34:34.630
coming of the thing we were talking about earlier, the

565
00:34:34.829 --> 00:34:36.469
name that we don't mention. Yeah, yeah.

566
00:34:36.489 --> 00:34:40.710
Exactly. Exactly. And then I interviewed Marianne.

567
00:34:40.730 --> 00:34:44.599
I think she was like 83 at the time. And

568
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:48.980
I'm looking at her and she's actually hitting on me.

569
00:34:50.059 --> 00:34:52.170
And I'm like, I would do it.

570
00:34:52.699 --> 00:34:53.309
I would do it.

571
00:34:58.659 --> 00:35:05.550
That's the childhood dream. I don't.

572
00:35:11.250 --> 00:35:12.980
Even know where the fuck this is going, man.

573
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:19.300
This is going down every rabbit hole you could possibly find.

574
00:35:22.099 --> 00:35:26.099
The only thing worse is like now I'm having flashbacks of,

575
00:35:26.460 --> 00:35:30.099
you know, my bumper sticker in LA as a teenager

576
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:37.530
that said in and out urge. That was a thing

577
00:35:37.909 --> 00:35:40.369
like back in the eighties in LA, you would get

578
00:35:40.409 --> 00:35:43.590
those free in and out burger stick bumper stickers.

579
00:35:44.130 --> 00:35:45.809
And you would cut it out so it would say

580
00:35:45.829 --> 00:35:46.889
In-N-Out Urge.

581
00:35:47.769 --> 00:35:51.179
There's some kind of Clockwork Orange reference in there, but

582
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:52.610
I don't know what it.

583
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:54.380
Is.

584
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:59.099
So maybe, let's see, what could we do with a

585
00:35:59.179 --> 00:36:02.519
Max Sabbath bumper sticker?

586
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:03.500
What could it say?

587
00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:08.699
Oh, position it so it says, like, switch it around

588
00:36:08.739 --> 00:36:12.079
and then it says, like, something crazy like Black Sabbath

589
00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:12.579
or something.

590
00:36:13.250 --> 00:36:20.030
Yeah, right? Oh, my God, that does work out. You

591
00:36:20.070 --> 00:36:24.469
know what? You remind me, too. So, funny story, okay?

592
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:28.500
I got the confirmation of the interview with Zach Wild

593
00:36:28.539 --> 00:36:29.559
the morning of.

594
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:31.000
Oh, nice.

595
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:33.739
I had already dressed.

596
00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:37.380
And had a certain shirt for that day. And you're

597
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.179
the only one I'm telling this to publicly. I changed

598
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:43.440
my shirt. to my black Sabbath shirt that I brought.

599
00:36:43.460 --> 00:36:47.960
It's a black, it's a black Sabbath shirt that comes

600
00:36:48.019 --> 00:36:52.260
from their store. That's basically the cover of the original

601
00:36:52.300 --> 00:36:53.380
black Sabbath album.

602
00:36:53.739 --> 00:36:54.019
Sure.

603
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:57.340
So here was what was cool is after the interview,

604
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:02.000
like the, the publicist was trying to get Zach to

605
00:37:02.019 --> 00:37:05.400
another interview and Zach just started talking to me and

606
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:07.940
he was telling me the whole story, which I already knew.

607
00:37:09.050 --> 00:37:11.409
But it was better when he was telling it and

608
00:37:11.469 --> 00:37:15.710
I could hear it from him. The whole story of

609
00:37:15.829 --> 00:37:21.429
that model that was on the shirt. Because she didn't

610
00:37:21.469 --> 00:37:24.739
even know that it was going to be for a

611
00:37:24.820 --> 00:37:28.880
Black Sabbath thing. And he gave this whole story. There's

612
00:37:28.940 --> 00:37:31.539
actually a whole story to it. It's kind of funny

613
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:35.710
because a lot of the old band albums... That's the case.

614
00:37:35.769 --> 00:37:36.429
It's like these.

615
00:37:36.989 --> 00:37:39.110
Models, they go for a shoot, they don't even know

616
00:37:39.150 --> 00:37:40.610
what they're shooting for, you know?

617
00:37:41.190 --> 00:37:41.639
Yeah.

618
00:37:42.590 --> 00:37:45.599
I did see, though, just a couple days ago, the

619
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:53.179
chick that's on the Blink-182 album, they showed her mugshot

620
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:58.179
because she's been arrested several times since then. So I

621
00:37:58.219 --> 00:38:01.179
don't know if you want to be on the cover

622
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:03.239
of a Blink-182 album.

623
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:03.599
Yeah.

624
00:38:04.309 --> 00:38:06.989
It just tells me that leads you to bad things

625
00:38:07.070 --> 00:38:07.469
in life.

626
00:38:07.710 --> 00:38:09.449
Yeah, and it turns out that the witch from the

627
00:38:09.510 --> 00:38:13.289
Black Sabbath album ends up being a neuroscientist in one of.

628
00:38:14.510 --> 00:38:17.880
Exactly. And that's what I'm talking about.

629
00:38:17.889 --> 00:38:22.210
Okay? So....

630
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:23.619
Life is funny.

631
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:27.179
Yeah. You know? Yeah.

632
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:29.050
It just... So I'm like, man.

633
00:38:30.340 --> 00:38:33.900
That was one of the times when I really did say,

634
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:36.380
thank God I listened to those voices in my head

635
00:38:37.159 --> 00:38:40.219
because the voice in my head said to wear that shirt,

636
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:44.219
you know, bad things usually happen when I listen to

637
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:47.719
voices in my head, but we won't talk about that because.

638
00:38:48.059 --> 00:38:50.780
Cut the part of the interview out though, because people

639
00:38:50.800 --> 00:38:54.550
should just think that you naturally have the black Sabbath

640
00:38:54.590 --> 00:38:56.630
shirt on that you do change on purpose. You don't

641
00:38:56.650 --> 00:39:00.159
want to, you know, I'd change my shirt eight times

642
00:39:00.179 --> 00:39:01.110
and I would never admit it.

643
00:39:02.260 --> 00:39:08.239
Well, there you go. Here's the thing. This stuff's got

644
00:39:08.300 --> 00:39:11.840
to stay between us because I don't need anybody coming

645
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:17.239
to my door because I incriminated myself. I didn't do

646
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:20.269
anything legal, so leave me alone.

647
00:39:20.750 --> 00:39:22.550
It's very locked down, right?

648
00:39:23.670 --> 00:39:27.070
There's nothing that I've done that's legal, so leave me alone.

649
00:39:31.179 --> 00:39:33.380
And we won't talk about what I did while Mac

650
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:36.639
Sabbath was on stage. We'll just leave that for another time.

651
00:39:39.769 --> 00:39:41.590
That sounds right.

652
00:39:43.489 --> 00:39:45.210
You really don't want to know, okay?

653
00:39:45.690 --> 00:39:46.070
I don't.

654
00:39:47.420 --> 00:39:51.130
It had something to do with Blothar and four penises

655
00:39:51.289 --> 00:39:52.750
and that's all I'm going to say you can't get

656
00:39:52.789 --> 00:39:53.929
any more of it out of me.

657
00:39:53.829 --> 00:39:57.210
Hey family band.

658
00:39:59.769 --> 00:40:04.690
So what else can we talk about about these nutcases

659
00:40:04.750 --> 00:40:06.489
and what they're about to do.

660
00:40:11.139 --> 00:40:15.940
Well maybe we should talk about next Sabbath a little

661
00:40:15.980 --> 00:40:20.679
bit Since we spent 19 minutes on Tabitha.

662
00:40:29.369 --> 00:40:34.050
Oh my God. I can't even handle this shit. I

663
00:40:34.070 --> 00:40:37.199
had to prep myself before getting on this interview because

664
00:40:37.340 --> 00:40:39.699
I had to try and get all my laughter out

665
00:40:39.739 --> 00:40:42.860
before the interview so I wouldn't break character and you

666
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:43.550
fucked me up.

667
00:40:51.489 --> 00:40:55.429
So, I do want to know one thing. Does Ronald

668
00:40:56.130 --> 00:40:59.820
like the album Never Say Die?

669
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:08.599
One of the first songs when they first started was

670
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:09.519
Never Say Diet.

671
00:41:10.980 --> 00:41:12.409
I love that.

672
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:16.750
That they played, but then I think eventually they realized

673
00:41:16.769 --> 00:41:18.969
that there was better songs to play.

674
00:41:19.969 --> 00:41:22.619
Because I was kind of laughing.

675
00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:28.829
I saw somebody paying homage to Oz on the social

676
00:41:28.909 --> 00:41:33.530
media thing. I don't know which social media thing. But

677
00:41:33.829 --> 00:41:38.500
I was like, oh, it was a band. It was

678
00:41:38.539 --> 00:41:41.360
a band that was paying homage to Oz and they

679
00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:46.019
played a song off of Never Say Die at their set.

680
00:41:46.980 --> 00:41:51.050
I was thinking to myself, You might want to know

681
00:41:51.070 --> 00:41:56.860
Ozzy a little better than that because he used to

682
00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:59.159
say that was his least favorite.

683
00:41:59.179 --> 00:42:03.019
He hated that album.

684
00:42:03.460 --> 00:42:07.920
You're going to dedicate a song off an album he hates?

685
00:42:08.179 --> 00:42:15.579
Oh my God, that's rude. You might as well have

686
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:16.639
played Heaven and Hell.

687
00:42:22.150 --> 00:42:23.789
Oh, Heaven and Hellman's mayonnaise.

688
00:42:24.329 --> 00:42:28.889
Oh, man. Exactly. Exactly. I would like, here's what I'd

689
00:42:28.929 --> 00:42:31.610
like to see. I would like to see.

690
00:42:31.659 --> 00:42:33.500
Heaven and Hell might have been a good idea.

691
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:40.900
Right? Yeah. Ronald could have been at Louder Than Life.

692
00:42:40.940 --> 00:42:43.639
He could have been cooking up the hamburgers and sitting

693
00:42:43.659 --> 00:42:50.250
there and saying, hot, hot, hotter than hell. Not Heaven

694
00:42:50.309 --> 00:42:53.340
and Hell, but hotter than hell. Right here at Louder

695
00:42:53.360 --> 00:43:00.110
Than Life. You know, but I think you should bring

696
00:43:00.170 --> 00:43:05.730
a guest singer for your next tour, and I think

697
00:43:05.769 --> 00:43:07.010
it should be Jack Black.

698
00:43:10.309 --> 00:43:11.469
Give him a call.

699
00:43:12.780 --> 00:43:15.639
Did I tell you what happened with me with Jack Black?

700
00:43:16.019 --> 00:43:17.460
No. Oh, yeah.

701
00:43:17.780 --> 00:43:20.300
It made it all over the place, and Rolling Stones...

702
00:43:20.809 --> 00:43:22.789
he was doing bowling for Ronnie.

703
00:43:23.409 --> 00:43:23.880
Okay.

704
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:28.679
And I interviewed him on the red carpet and he

705
00:43:28.739 --> 00:43:33.099
started in the middle of the song singing neon nights,

706
00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:37.079
but he would sing one line and then do, he

707
00:43:37.099 --> 00:43:39.119
would have the mic sing one line and do this

708
00:43:39.219 --> 00:43:39.619
to me.

709
00:43:40.469 --> 00:43:45.989
He'd get pointing the mic back to me. I'm like, yeah. Okay.

710
00:43:46.690 --> 00:43:48.409
I'm not singing that shit.

711
00:43:48.449 --> 00:43:51.289
Like, I'll lose every listener I ever had.

712
00:43:51.829 --> 00:43:55.849
You know? That's not easy. That's not easy to do that.

713
00:43:56.150 --> 00:43:59.269
And at the end, well, it is if Facebook's involved

714
00:43:59.329 --> 00:44:03.090
because they just deleted everything I have. But, you know,

715
00:44:03.469 --> 00:44:04.570
that's another story.

716
00:44:04.590 --> 00:44:14.320
And, but, you know, basically, after the air moves over,

717
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:16.820
he's like, I was trying to get you to sing.

718
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:20.519
And I'm like, that was the end of the interview.

719
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:22.420
It was even in the interview he said that. I'm like,

720
00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:30.530
that's your job, not mine. I'll listen to you. If

721
00:44:30.699 --> 00:44:34.170
I were singing at Louder Than Life, it would be

722
00:44:34.250 --> 00:44:38.050
quieter than life because nobody would be there. Maybe the

723
00:44:38.150 --> 00:44:45.800
louder part would be the crickets. In fact, holy shit.

724
00:44:46.769 --> 00:44:51.510
Now it makes sense. They weren't running from the GMO

725
00:44:51.909 --> 00:44:55.869
to the McSavis set. They were actually at my set.

726
00:44:56.269 --> 00:44:58.429
They were running from you because they thought you were

727
00:44:58.489 --> 00:45:00.269
going to start singing Neon Bites.

728
00:45:01.489 --> 00:45:08.610
Exactly. Exactly. I was going to start singing Pinball Wizard.

729
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:20.139
With a drop E. You also have a headlining tour

730
00:45:20.199 --> 00:45:24.119
coming up. Is that right? In October?

731
00:45:25.969 --> 00:45:31.110
Yeah. There's about seven headlining dates. I think we're playing

732
00:45:31.150 --> 00:45:36.219
with some of those shows with Clownvis Presley. You know Clownvis?

733
00:45:36.260 --> 00:45:42.340
He's the king of clowns. He's like an Elvis clown. Clownvis. Wait.

734
00:45:42.539 --> 00:45:43.920
Is he moonlighting? Is he like.

735
00:45:46.619 --> 00:45:50.400
Not making enough money and insane clown bossy because he

736
00:45:50.420 --> 00:45:53.480
has spent so much on Faygo that he has to

737
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:54.099
do this.

738
00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:56.619
You should say that he actually does a lot of

739
00:45:56.679 --> 00:45:59.300
those events. He does a lot of those events. Um,

740
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.889
Mac Sabbath toured in the early days with clown, this

741
00:46:02.969 --> 00:46:07.309
on a tour called clown power. Um, um, so this

742
00:46:07.329 --> 00:46:10.989
was kind of like a throwback from something that from like, from,

743
00:46:11.090 --> 00:46:14.050
from 10 years ago. And since then, uh, clown, this

744
00:46:14.510 --> 00:46:20.139
was very successful, uh, During 2020, he had a show

745
00:46:20.239 --> 00:46:24.880
called Columbus to the rescue on YouTube. That was a

746
00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:29.139
live show that he was kind of doing to, you know,

747
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:31.360
for when people who were locked down to give them

748
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:35.960
some relief of something to, to, to experience live. And

749
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:39.699
for a while he was doing it every night and

750
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:42.960
everybody was locked down. And I watched that show. Like

751
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.300
that was the like highlight of my day was to

752
00:46:45.389 --> 00:46:51.510
tune into Columbus to So, and then, and then a

753
00:46:51.550 --> 00:46:55.619
couple of nights are, are with Dak Descantes. They can't,

754
00:46:56.059 --> 00:47:00.460
I think I'm pronouncing that right. Friends of ours that

755
00:47:00.500 --> 00:47:06.219
we have toured with before from Guadalajara. And that's just

756
00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:14.250
an incredible thematic stage show experience. I can't even explain

757
00:47:14.630 --> 00:47:26.539
what it is. There's, it's like sexy Devo. What it is,

758
00:47:26.940 --> 00:47:29.300
but it's a male. Did you lose me when I

759
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:31.360
said sexy Mexican Devo? Is that what happened?

760
00:47:31.699 --> 00:47:34.820
I missed the Mexican part, but I got the sexy Devo.

761
00:47:34.889 --> 00:47:39.409
So I was imagining what Devo was doing with their hats.

762
00:47:40.130 --> 00:47:44.780
But man, next Sabbath rocks. I think I'm pushing it.

763
00:47:45.030 --> 00:47:50.110
I think that's the, The McSabbath gods saying, okay, you're done.

764
00:47:51.019 --> 00:47:51.380
You're done.

765
00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:54.559
Yes, that was the McSabbath Minute. Thanks for being in it.

766
00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:57.739
Oh, I love it. I don't even have to say

767
00:47:57.780 --> 00:48:00.239
anything else, except thanks for being on the Adventures of

768
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:00.800
Pipe Man.

769
00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:05.360
And it was an adventure.

770
00:48:07.090 --> 00:48:08.510
I don't know if it was a good one, but

771
00:48:08.530 --> 00:48:09.969
it was definitely an adventure.

772
00:48:10.349 --> 00:48:13.710
It was adventurous. It was very adventurous, Pipe Man. It's

773
00:48:13.730 --> 00:48:15.130
good talking to you. It's always been a blast.

774
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:18.159
Absolutely. Same here.

775
00:48:19.989 --> 00:48:25.130
Thank you for listening to The Adventures of Pikeman on

776
00:48:25.469 --> 00:48:25.909
W4CY Radio.