Aug. 10, 2026
Metal, Sobriety, and Coffee: Behind the Scenes at Camden’s Raven Records
In this episode, Pipeman interviews Chloe and Ben from Raven Records, a Camden-based heavy metal record shop that has redefined the record store experience. They discuss their unique alcohol-free bar concept, community events, mental health support, and the evolving inclusivity of the metal scene. The conversation also dives deep into personal stories, the culture surrounding music and sobriety, and the shop's innovative bands-partnerships.Main Topics Covered
- The Raven Records Booth at Bloodstock
- Creating a Metal-Themed Alcohol-Free Bar
- Sober Living and Inclusivity in Metal
- Community, Relationships, and Social Experiences Without Alcohol
- Band Partnerships, Coffee, and Events
- Breaking Down Genre Gatekeeping
- Mental Health, Recovery, and Music as Therapy
- The Store’s Features and Fan Experience
- Contact Information and How to Connect with Raven Records
- Chloe describes their Bloodstock booth, featuring records, metal-related books, puzzles, coloring books, patches, and pins (00:46).
- The shop in Camden brings the same fan-focused vibe, aiming for an immersive metal experience.
- They’ve established a complete alcohol-free bar with a true metal aesthetic—no whale music or bland environments (02:23).
- They serve alcohol-free whiskies, rums, Guinness Zero on draft, and a rotating menu of metal-themed mocktails (02:30, 05:20).
- Chloe and Ben discuss the importance of providing a social space where non-drinkers can feel included without stigma (03:08, 05:17).
- Discussion on how non-drinkers often make drinkers uncomfortable, and how the shop creates an open, relaxed atmosphere (06:17, 06:27).
- Chloe shares being nearly 19 years sober and her perspective on recovery-friendly spaces (01:57).
- Pipeman and guests swap stories about socializing, dating, and stereotypes non-drinkers face (05:48).
- Stories of wild 80s metal days compared to today’s more health-conscious scene (04:05, 10:37).
- The shop hosts band signings, such as Venom, Testament (with their own band-designed coffee), and events catering to all metal subgenres (13:58, 14:23).
- Highlighting the downstairs Lucifer Lounge, a themed hangout space for fans (14:23).
- Two main coffee brands: US-based Concept Cafés (official band coffees, royalties to artists) and UK-based Black Coffee Worship (Scandinavian roasts, fan favorite “Black Cross”) (11:48, 12:27).
- Coffee is both for sale and served, allowing fans to enjoy and take home band-crafted blends (12:54).
- Pipeman, Chloe, and Ben reflect on the changes from the '80s gatekeeping mentality to today’s inclusivity, where musical preferences are embraced without judgment (16:53, 17:08).
- The shop deliberately stocks a wide range, from glam to death metal, challenging purist views (15:36).
- Mental health peer support (“Heavy Metal Therapy” meetings), Satanic recovery (addiction recovery), and the connection between music and wellbeing (11:11).
- Chloe shares how her music preference reflects her mental health and how music is integral to her recovery (19:40).
- “We wanted to create a bar that was a proper metal bar that just sold alcohol-free drinks.” – Chloe (02:23)
- “The fact that I’m not drinking shouldn’t make anyone else uncomfortable.” – Ben (06:22)
- “Metal's metal at the end of the day… embrace it, enjoy it, enjoy what you like.” – Chloe (17:11)
- “Music is the best therapy in my opinion.” – Pipeman (21:11)
- “It’s that bridge between the bands and the fans, and not just the massive bands as well.” – Chloe (15:25)
- Raven Records Website: ravenrecordshop.com (22:05)
- Instagram: Raven Records underscore Camden (22:05)
- Facebook: Raven Records Camden (22:13)
- TikTok: Similar to Instagram and Facebook (22:13)
- Shop Location: Camden Town, London (Near Underworld & World’s End, by the tube station) (21:48)
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Yes, cruee Wow for you.
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Young, it's the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
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Man W four c Y Radio and I'm here.
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With Chlorite from Raven Records and Ben from Riven Records.
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Nice. Actually, before I kind of put the connection together
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in my head, I had walked the grounds. I was like,
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that's a cool booth. I'm gonna have to visit. So
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tell us a little bit about Let's start with what
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your booth's like here at Bloodstock and then we'll go deeper.
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Sure, So I mean the booth here, we got Bloodstore,
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We're selling records, we've got puzzles, we've got books, heavy
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metal variety books, we've got heavy metal coloring books. We've
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got patches and pins and yeah, just here to to
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have a great time, you know, with the fans as well.
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We're a heavy metal record shop based in Camden and
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we're coming out to festivals to give people the fan
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experience that they get in Camden when they visit the shop.
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Nice and so tell us a little bit more about
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your shop. Like, one of the things I found really
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cool is that you have an alcohol free bar and
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I don't drink. I'm not it's not like I'm sober
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because I have a problem. I just don't drink. So
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I go to bars and it's like I go to socialize,
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but then I kind of feel weird because I'm there
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and I'm not drinking. And like, if I go to
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there's a place by where I live, they have live music,
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so I go for the live music, but I always
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feel like bad that I'm not spending money on drinks.
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So your kind of place would be my kind of place.
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Yeah, well, that was one of the things we saw
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looking at everything was going on in the in the
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metal scene. You know, I'm in recovery myself, so I'm
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nearly nineteen years without a drink.
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Good for you, thank you.
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I started my own recovery group.
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And one of the things I noticed with alcohol free
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bars that existed everywhere in the world.
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Most of them were white walls, whale music.
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It was all about mindful drinking and didn't fit our
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aesthetic as a metal head, you know.
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So one of the things we wanted to do was
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create a bar.
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There was a proper metal bar that just sold alcohol
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free drinks, and then we saw some of the best
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alcohol free drinks that we could find so we've got
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alcohol free whiskeys, RUMs, beers, ciders, we've got Guinness zero
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on draft. And it's been an amazing experience to be
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able to do that and to create something that had
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the proper metal atmosphere just without the booze, so you
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can socialize and hang out and not feel different or
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a part or not a part of the full group.
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And I think it was important for us as well
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not to sort of make everyone else change and make
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all the other bars in the local area have more
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zero zero options for people that didn't drink, but to
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create a space where if you didn't want to drink,
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you had somewhere where you could go. But as a
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ripple effect, all the local bars now are doing more
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zero zero options. So that's amazing and it means more
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people that are either in recovery or choose not to
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drink can still experience the whole metal atmosphere without having
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to compromise.
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See that that is amazing. And you know what I
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thought was really cool about you what you said A
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couple of things. One is that it's alcohol free, but
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it doesn't mean you're just getting a juice or a soda.
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You can kind of have the experience without the negative
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parts of it, you know, and the metal part because
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as somebody that was very active and the Sunset Strip
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scene of the eighties, and ma'am that today it's so
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much more straight edge for metal heads, Like there was
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a lot of debauchery that I was doing from thirteen
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on and walking with Motley Crewe into the Rainbow to
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hang out with Lemmy and like, you know, it was insane,
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you know. Thank god, there's no proof. And you know
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they say that if you remember the Sunset Strip in
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the eighties, you weren't actually there, you know, you know, so,
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but nowadays it's cool. Like even as to impress all
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my friends will be like, hey, man, can you get
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me backstage? I'm like, it's not what you think it is. Man,
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Like back in the day, yes you wanted to go
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backstage that I'm like, it's actually kind of boring. We're
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seeing around showing pictures of our kids and doing nothing.
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You know.
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So thank god that you have had this brainstorm to
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come up with this idea that not only allows people
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to be in a safe place, but great, it's the
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same atmosphere so they don't have to feel like, oh great,
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I'm a metal head and I can't go to a
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place where I can enjoy that atmosphere.
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Yeah, absolutely, I mean that was really really important for
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us to create that and to create a space where
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people could come and just hang out.
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You know, we do.
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We also do cocktails as well, so we've got a
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heavy metal themed cocktail menus so you can have all
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of your you know, standard cocktails, but in an alcohol
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free version. So we do you know, an express of
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martini and lots of different types of things which change regularly.
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So yeah, it's really about creating that experience within the store.
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And I love too. I was just thinking about, because
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I go through this all the time, a place where
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you can meet people, like in a romantic way, like
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a relationship, because you know, I have the problem that
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I'll go out on dates and I'll order water after
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they order a drink, and then all of a sudden
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they're telling the server, oh, like change it to water,
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and they feel uncomfortable because I'm not drinking, which I
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think is utterly ridiculous, Like I don't give a shit
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if they have a drink, but now you're making me
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feel uncomfortable that you know, I'm making you uncomfortable.
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Yeah, I mean that's something that we've talked about a lot,
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isn't it.
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Then?
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You know we see that all the time, you know,
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we've you know, the fact that I'm not drinking shouldn't
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make anyone else uncomfortable, right.
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It tends to It tends to do that, doesn't it.
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Yeah, definitely, I experienced it quite a lot. I've had friends.
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I find it really funny. One of my friends when
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we were at a slack gig, was wearing a Tanker
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T shirt and apologized and I was like, that's not
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even alcohol, and the issue is not you drinking, it's
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me drinking.
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So you know, if you're drinking, fine, If I'm drinking, run.
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It's funny you should mention Tankard too. Because I was
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covering them at a festival in the States, Like they go, hey,
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can you do it as a favor. We didn't bring
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our crew over here. Can you just come on stage
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take pictures for us and hand us beer during the set,
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And like they can they live up to their name? Okay,
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those boys can seriously drink. Dad re tall refrigerer filled
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up front and they kept bringing beer there. They went
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through at least a case during their set on stage.
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I just thought they were funny. I didn't give a
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shit that they were doing this, and I hung out
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with them all night. Well they got tankered. It doesn't
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bother me if you're not a dick. Like there's some
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friends I have their fun drunks. Okay, enjoy yourself if
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you're a dick or your psycho. My British ex wife,
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she was a psycho.
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Drunk might be a Brittish thing.
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Well, I'll tell you a funny story about that. So
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a lot of British women they come over to the
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States and they act like they're royals and like they're
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better than American put their nose down to us. And
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she was like that. She was like, oh you Americans,
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you have new class and blah blah blah blah blah
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blah blah blah blah, and she spoke the proper queen's English,
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so it was believable. Then she would drank fifteen margaritas
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every night and she would turn into that shit crazy
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that I figured out was her hometown, real her, because
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I didn't never knew where she was from. And this
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is where the laugh comes from. Newcastle there you go, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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And people are like, you mean you recognize the Jordi accent.
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I'm like, no, she spoke the proper queen's English, like
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I could understand her totally, and she spoke so well.
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She was exactly what US Americans think, Oh what a
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great accent. But yeah, I mean like somebody like her,
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Oh my god, like she would try and get me
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into fight and she would just batshit crazy. Those are
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the drunks I don't want to hang out with. But
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the ones that are irritating, I don't care. And even
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when they're like, you want to drink, you want to drink,
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that's your business, and they all, here's a problem with
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somebody like me, like you're in recovery. I'm not. But
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people always think that I have a problem and that's
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why I don't drink, and that annoys the shit out
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of me, Like why does it have to be that label? Listen,
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you don't drink. I don't drink. To me, that's all
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that matters. It doesn't matter you know what your label
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is supposed to be. And they're always like, oh my god,
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blahla blah blah blah, I'm gonna cause you to go
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back to drinking, Like, no, I didn't drink to begin with.
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Shut up.
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Yeah, I mean, obviously I'm in recovery. Chloe's Chloe's not
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in recovery. But Kloe doesn't drink either, So you know,
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we can see both sides of the coiners.
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Exactly right, you know. And see I love that about
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you too, because you can understand each other. And and
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so I do ask when you first got together, did
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you have any of that kind of experience when you
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first met, like any uncomfort on either side worrying about
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the other?
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I guess not from me. I mean Coe was drinking
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when we first met. I didn't have an issue with
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that at all. You know, it's difficult being sober and
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obviously going outdating, especially when you're in your late thirties
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early forties. Yeah, you know, as tough as it is,
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you know, out there and being alternative as well, you know,
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alternative and not drinking is it can be a bit weird,
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but I mean it's amazing there's so many sober stars
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out now that are actually making a point of it.
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Mortis has been talking about, you know, being out on
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the road and what he's drinking. Obviously you've got we
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had Lamb of God yesterday, Randy Blyve fifteen years without drink,
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and I think other substances as well. Loads of the
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guys from Slipknot don't drink anymore. You've got Rob Halford,
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Alice Cooper. You know, they're all actually promoting that now.
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And I think you're seeing a bit of a change
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in the metal scene any way, where there's more fitness
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based things, there's more things where people don't drink, and
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it is getting sort of more health and mental health
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market at the same time as well. We do heavy
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metal therapy meetings in the shop, which is mental health
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pier to pier support. We do obviously the Satanic recovery
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meetings in the shop as well, which is the addiction
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recovery support, so we're kind of helping that along at
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the same time, as well as creating the alcohol free space.
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are obsessed with coffee and so I love that. That's
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also like your record store is like that record store,
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it's just a full metal experience. So tell us about
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within the shop. So we stock Concept Cafes coffee, which
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we import from America and we're the only stockist in
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Europe for that. So that is official band coffee, and
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they work directly with the bands to create their own
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coffee line, so the packaging, the type of the coffee,
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the roasting, you know, and also you know there's royalties
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that go back to the band as well from the
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from the coffee, so they're working directly with the artists,
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which is really important to us, no doubt. We also
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stuck another brand, black Coffee Worship, which is a Liverpool
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based company and they do Scandinavian style coffee.
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Our strongest coffee, the Black Cross.
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you know, one of our most popular coffees.
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I'd said something for sure, Yeah, yeah, And I was
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talking to the American Don't Be Incarceration just like a
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few weeks ago. So it's kind of cool to come
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bags as well. We actually serve it so people can
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