Not Enough Space at Welcome to Rockville 2026 - PipemanRadio Interview

0:04 Hi, you live one to censure. Wow for you your yes, yes, thank god. This is pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm here with Live and Lizzie from Not Enough Space. Good to see you again, Good to see. You again, and here we are. Welcome to Rockville. Thank you. It's kind of like a double meaning, you know, I'm saying it, but then I'm welcoming you to it.

0:50 At the same time, A little good double. Right, right, So this is your first time at Rockville. Huh? Okay, So first, what do you think of out performing in a Daytona International Speedway. I was a big NASCAR fan as a kid, so this just like just be able to be like, yeah, I'm here and I got to step on the tarmac like that. It was really really cool. Did you get to ride a golf carts on the raceway? No, you should go do something. Okay, I'm gonna have to ask them. I just want to get a cool car and be able to bring it out here one day, I know. Right, So now I'm gonna call you out. Okay, I have a trivia question for you.

1:30 Okay, oh boy, I'm probably not gonna be able to answer it. Why are all the seats multiple colors? Isn't it to make it look like there's people in the stands? Yes? Yeah, but did it? She did it? She is a NASCAR fan yea, les, Yes, it does kind of look like legos, right, answer, Like, this is not really the raceway. This is just a Lego They built a really big Lego raceway. Yeah, like that took a lot of work. Oh yeah, there's actually somebody I follow on Instagram that that's what she does. She does Lego builds, and it's so interesting. I got hooked on it. I'm like the big Lego person that. I'm like, man, she's building some badass ship with those Legos.

2:14 I won't learn how to do that. Jacob and I are big Lego people, and every year for Christmas, I get him a new, bigger Lego set every single year to like test how like long it takes him to build it. I'm not gonna say when I'm gettinghim this year on it, because he's probably gonna listen. To yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't say, but. A big old Lego set. Nice? Yeah see that's awful. Nice see Yeah, I mean like that's cool. I try. I like he's like my little brother. I'm like, if he likes legos, I'm gonna buy him fucking legos. There you go, There you go. So how has it been here at Welcome to Rockville? Really good? I mean obviously really hot, but we're from Florida, so you know, we're used to it.

2:56 Yeah, I'm from again, I forget. Like central Florida, so like Orlando. Oh okay, yeah, but yeah it was hot, but hot, humid. Totally worth it though, just like. Me, like I said dude before the interview, it's like we're kind of used to it, so it sucks, but we're used to. Yeah, you get used to being on the heat and the humidity and feeling a little sticky. I do feel bad for like you guys because like wearing makeup. Yeah, I'm so ready to get the shut off. That is the worst part, man. Yeah. No, it's just another layer that you don't want because you already have sweats. Yeah yeah, sweat and makeup, all right, and.

3:38 Like it's caked in makeup and. I'm like all right, yeah, yeah, that's a that's a hot look right there, right. Yeah, we honestly like her and I are so like low maintenance all the time. I think we'd probably not be in makeup right now. If I'm being completely honest, I'm so ready to wash it all off. Yeah, exactly, like too much. Yeah, it's cute. If it's like cool outside and it's nighttime, that's fine. Oh like if it's if it's hot and humid, why I want to feel this on me? Yeah? Well you know too, I kind of feel that way, like even you know, like musicians are guys that put on makeup for show. Okay, I'm cool, you know it's cool you're doing for a show. But I'm like, fuck, if us as guys, we don't have to put on makeup, why should we?

4:23 Yeah? I mean you wonder how Kissed did it for so long? Like how did they not sweat it all off? Like I don't, I don't know know, Like like Chris Motionless, what's well, it will probably be a little darker, but. But he's like heavier makeup on stage two. But he's like honestly like dial yeah, dialed it because of that. Oh yeah, I don't even blame him. He's so great though. Anyways, that man can do whatever he wants. Oh yeah, he is great. But it's funny like I've hung out with him in the crowd to watch her set. Sure, and he does that happens makeup on Yeah, and I laugh because I'm looking around. Nobody's even looking because they don't have no clue who it is.

5:03 Which is the beauty of like wearing makeup on and off stage, like. Real, Yeah, and just go do your thing, go watch a set and not have people bother you. Yeah, exactly, dude. That's why I like you think about like bands like sleep Token that were like the full mask, Like they could be out in the crowd right now and you would have no idea. Oh yeah, And I've interviewed Gwar a couple of times without their costumes, so and I tell him, I'm like, yeah, it's a good idea. With the costume, you look much better. No, I love I Love. I was like, yeah, yeah, wait, no, no, no, no, you just I love I Love super like.

5:44 I wouldn't say it to him if I wasn't friendly. Yeah. I saw them for the first time last year at Rockville, and I was like, dude, what the fuck? I was like, this is so sick because I'd like, yeah, dude, they're like spilling like alien ship everywhere I was like, this. Is so alien blood and coum. Yeah, yep, exactly, and the like, oh dude, it's just a cool like they just fucking nail it every. Time when they are in costumes. Like imagine being me and interviewing this dude while it's three penises or poking me. Yeah, in the cow costume is like the Evil Cow. It's just so funny. So but it's funny. One time I interviewed them at download and something happened with their flight and their costume's income. Oh, so the tour manager came out. He's like, I'm going to bring both or out now, but they didn't get their costume. Yeah, so like kind of keep it on the down low, you know.

6:42 And so he's out there, nobody knows it's him. Yeah, And there's a photographer that I was friends with across the table from me, and he's just sitting there and he had a bag of gummy bears on the table, so blowth are. During the interview, he's like, hey, hey, give. Me come to go be bear, and like I would, I'd be like here, take all back. He still didn't know who it was, you know, like, yeah, it didn't look like but it sounded just like him, but it still didn't know who. That's the beauty of it. Being able to have that like privacy on and off stage, I think is so cool for you know, the bands that really want that and need that.

7:23 I agree. I have. Also, I've thought of myself and like, so, I don't know if you know that's ours Raven Black, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I haven't heard of them, but you you have online. Okay, And she wears makeup but she's over fifty. Oh wow, but she has to look at with the makeup on. She doesn't even really look at way it off but went on totally doesn't look at it all. That's so sick. So I was talking to I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna get a mask, and I think I should start a band. And then like as soon as I get big, I take off the mask and hahuh, fuckers, I'm not twenty.

8:04 Yeah, exactly right. You played a trick on them. Exactly How fun would that be? You know? But I do cool music video too. Right moment you like expose yourself. They'll be way better than the kiss on masks thing, because that sucked, Like, put your makeup back on. Okay, well, look that's why they play with makeup now. They thought they were so cool growing up. My grandma was a really big fan of them. I had like, I think it was like their like thirtieth anniversary, like vintage T shirt, and I was like, yo, I was like, these guys are so cool. I was like, what the fuck are we listening to? I thought they were so cool.

8:45 So my first record album ever, I lived in Jersey and I was a kid, and I was at Seaside Heights, which is the boardwalk where they have all the carny games and stuff, and I played this one game where you could win a record album. I won it and I looked up and this album cover was just so cool. And it was the first Kiss album when it first came out, and it was four of them up there. I'm like, that's the one I want. Dude, that's so sick. And it's because of that day that we're here speaking now, beautiful. I love that divine divine alignment. No doubt. Yeah, Now, how come her percing, her interceptum is so much smaller than yours? I think almost like for I think almost for like performances, you should kind of match because they're the same one basically, and that one's like a lot smaller.

9:42 Yeah, I mean, well, Lizzie and I are both such different people, but I think we balance each other so well. She was more into like the Meddlecoorn post hardcore scene, and I was a part of like the death Corn hard core scene, and it's just something that you see like all the time, is just body mods and like death Corn hard core. And I saw somebody with a big septum and I was like, well, I'm a Taurus. I want to look like a bull too, So I started stretching it. But yeah, I started stretching it, and I was like, there's no going back. I want to do this, like this is this is so cool. The only reason why I started doing anything to my nose was one time I was complaining at a slam poetry event and I was. Like, I just hate my nose.

10:22 I don't know. I was like I was younger, and then they just go, no, Lizzy own it. So I just started to like modify my nose, but I just don't think I could commit to the giant septum. I also just get lazy with like stretching it like this. Hurt, like I don't really want to do more. Mine took so long to stretch, So yeah, I totally get it. I just feel like it would be too much about Also, I just have a lot going on in my mouth area now too. It's like that. Yeah, I got like, how does it not annoying you sometimes? Like I know you get im eating sushi? Really? Yeah, tell me about that because that sounds like I see. The assumption is that you can eat the whole roll without taking smaller bites, but if you.

11:06 Trying to put the whole thing in your mouth is really annoying. So I hate it. Eats sushi around people, Oh my god. That's great. Seem like nobody think nobody thinks of that. I like that. One of our first double dates though, was going to get a fucking sushi. Yeah. So it's a hard time, but honestly, the rings make it easier. The rings. If it was post really like pokey all the time. Yeah, yeah, well that's what I would I would think, you know, like it it would annoy me if it kept poking me, you know. And yeah, and so I always wonder like do you get used to it? You obviously you do, but like only. Get used to it. Like for me with my septum, Like every time I take it out, I'm like, God, like, I look like a different Yeah, I'm like, I look like a different person.

11:53 So I just put it back. I like, I will probably never take this thing out. Space between our mouth and our nose. It doesn't feel like a face until we take the fucking yeah. Well, and then I take it out and I'm like, I look like a WHO from WHO though. Like it's like the Who effects. It's like you didn't look like a WHO real person per se, but now you do because we're so used to the fucking bowl. Yeah. I think one of the positive you're gonna laugh at this, But I think one of the positives of having a sept them ring is you're never gonna be caught off guard picking your nose. Yeah, people just think you're readjusting it. It's fantastic. Where does we're booger eaters? Like, absolutely not do not even absolutely not.

12:35 I'm just kidding. I just exposed our secret. Your secret, not mine. I don't do that my nails. I don't do that. Well, yeah, but the black might hide it. I don't know. He's calling, he's calling your bluff. Yeah, totally. You can't pull it back now you already listen. How many other interviews did you get talk about such interesting subjects? Like none of them. I was ready like when I saw that you were here, and like, oh, we're gonna we're gonna have some eccentric conversations. See, that's the way it should be. Like good, I'm gonna be honest. If I were an artist, it was this would be the most boring shit ever to do press. Okay, And I even sometimes okay, I listen to some other press people, I'm like, oh my god, if I was an artist, I'd be slit in my throat right now.

13:28 Oh my gosh. Well, we like doing the media stuff. It's fun to like meet all the different people that come out in good media, like these festivals. If it's a good media person, like we always have good at Danny wimmer Ones. But I've been to some other festivals where it's like, Okay, first of all, if you're in the metal or punk and your press, you should not have a script for your interview because right then and there they're either gonna fuck with you or they're just gonna in the interview. You know, because sometimes people, you know, to be able to like read it to get it out. I'm big, Like I'm a big, big reader, and I stumble on my words so so much, so it's easier for me to like look at something that I've like written, so I can understand that. But like, I don't think we've ever had like a bad experience with media. Everybody's good, so great, like.

14:17 They're taking their time out of their day, and I think that's already. Just love that and that's enough. Yeah, I love that attitude because not every artist has that attitude. Yeah, you know, and when you're talking, but when you're talking about your piercings and boogers. You don't. You don't have any problems speaking though, Like you're not stuck on your word. No, well sometimes I do. If I'm like, if I'm not able to like actually formulate. No, not that my septum. I get asked a lot of questions about my septum all the time. I'm sure you do. Like my grandpa just absolutely hated it. He was like, if you ever get one, I'm gonna rip that thing out. And I remember I got it and I had shown him and I was like, look, Grandpa, look what id And he's like, I'm gonna rip that thing out, and it just was always like an ongoing joke that he like hated it so much, and like I remember getting it done too, and my mom was like, I thought you were gonna get a pretty pier like pretty princess piercing.

15:15 And I was like, no, I was like, that is not what I told you. Well, you know what's funny you were you reminded me of my dad because before I got my ear pierced, I asked him, you know if I could, if you do. I will rip it out of your ear. Hey. Yeah, I did anyway, And but here's the best. You're gonna love this the fucked up teenager logic. Okay, Yeah, so I got pierced anyway. I had long hair, yea, so it was covering it up, no problem. I lived in California at the time. We had the Santa Ana winds. Yeah, walk in the house and my hairs over my ear.

15:57 My stepmother she sees in. She tattles on me to my dad. No, that wasn't the worst part. I'm a jew, huh. I was wearing an upside down hanging cross. Oh h oh, but wait for the teenage logic. Oh he lost his shit. I'm like, but dad, it's not a Christian cross, it's a devil cross. It's I'm not going against judyism. Your dad was like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like right, but he did threaten to rip it out of my ear, but you know, and I'll tell you how I got it pierced too. Oh no, it's a girl.

16:40 Like every guy's story starts with yeah. Let me tell you how I got this done. Yeah. So of course you always want to be cool for the girl. And the girl's like, whop, pierce your ear? Sure, go ahead, my god, you let her pierce your ear. It was beyond that. She took an ear out of her ear. Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. No, no, me, no nothing, and just stuck it through it to the potato. Like I am such amophobe. You're so strong for doing that. I would have like probably cried just it wasdies. We didn't even have aids yet.

17:21 I mean, yeah, there you go. You know, maybe herpes. I don't know, I have no idea. I wasn't alive, so but. Yeah, it's like and then I haven't. It's always a girl Okay, so I haven't worn one sure since I cut my hair because I thought it looks stupid on me and other people on me. And short hair sure opposed the long hair, especially if you're wearing a dangling thing sure in with your hair. So yesterday one of the bartenders over there I've known for years, who I'm like really close with, she has these really cool hanging earrings she's wearing. Okay, I think I have been stuck an earring and this is it's the testament of how you should pierce the ear.

18:02 That girl that did it to me, it's the perfect way. Yeah, I've been put an earring in my ear. It must be thirty years I said. I was trying to be cool. Oh here, she didn't even know my ear was pearce. I'm here, let me check it out. I'll put it in my ear. Yeah. And she's like, how you gonna get it in the ear. I'm like, it's pierce. When's the last time, I don't know. Thirty years ago. It's not. It's not going in there. Yeah, And I put it in. That hole is still there without ever wearing a piercing and it like it. So I'm just giving everybody advice. If you want a solid piercing that will not ever close, use a potato and an earring.

18:50 Okay, so in everything too. Yeah, for anything you get sick often? Uh no, yeah exactly. Yeah. See it's disgusting, and then I could eat the potato afterwards for dinner. Oh double immunity, oh my god, and double purpose Invaders. We have friends, yeah, exactly, exactly. You know. I don't know if I could do the sept them though, only because like I had a really bad deva sept them. Oh so like five operations. I'm like, I want to go through that shit again. Yeah, And I think it would kind of annoy me a little bit. I love mine. I don't even know it's there half the time.

19:30 And my daughter, she had a friend that used to come over to house and he'sa wine' his eyebrow and yeah, I used to mess with him. I like, come over them here, let me pull that out. Yeah, I go. I wasn't going to really do but he was scared as tell. Them, so you know. But I think it's cool though, for everybody to be an individual and do what makes them happy. I agree. Fuck the rest of the world. And what they think because so many people nowadays worry about what other people do that doesn't affect their life in any way, shape or form. You do you if you're not intentionally hurting somebody, if you're not, you know, doing something unsafe, you do you sure?

20:11 Like who cares? Yeah? Absolutely? Everybody's entitled to their own individuality. Absolutely, And that's exactly what it is. You know, I have no tattoos. All my kids have tattoos. Yeah, I have one piercing. They all have a bunch of peeroings. Yeah, okay, I'm cool with it. You do you It's not affecting my life, absolutely. You know. And I think that's a message for a lot of parents, because here's the thing. If you don't let your teenagers express individuality, Yeah, they're gonna end up shitheads as adults. Because they're gonna end up doing it anyway. They're gonna do the stupid ship that's adults. Yeah, my daughter, that's you just made me remind me of something. My daughter that's out there in the venue. She wanted the piercer knows. At that time, I was like, no, not yet.

21:01 I felt she was too young. Right, But here's why parents shouldn't do that. So she one day I'm in my bedroom, she comes into me crying because she went in the bathroom and tried to pierce her nose herself. Oh god, and only got halfway and was stuck. I've definitely done a couple, and I don't ever recommend doing this, but I definitely have done a couple of my own piercings at home, and I'll never do it again. A good idea. I just started laughing, and then I took her to a professional piercer to do it. There you, because here's been lesson to parents. Better to do that than your child do something that could possibly danger their life. Oh, I'd being stupid to bring them to a professional and get done, because they're gonna do it anyway, absolutely, and let them be themselves. You know, most teenager there's a lot of stupid stuff they do. When they get older, you know, they don't do some of those things anymore if they're allowed to do it. Sure, the ones that weren't the ones that go to Catholic school and uh, there you are.

22:15 No, not Lizzy, not we Yeah we know somebody that No. Well because true though, because if you're you have your thumb on somebody, they're gonna go ape shit wild once they like Dark Divine. No, it's just funny because my boyfriend went to Catholic school and now he's in Dark Divine, which is like sick makeup, banned, Halloween, spooky Satan. Yeah see, there you go. I love it. Yeah. Yeah, his mom's very proud. There you go. I do love when like parents are proud. No, she is genuinely funny. She's so sweet. She's an angel. I mean, support your kids and they'll do less stupid stuff.

22:56 There's my there's my you. Know, parent hot tape. Yeah, there you go, there you go. Yeah, So what else cool do you have going on after this? So after today we are headed out on the road with Make Them Suffer for a couple of days, and then we play Sonic Temple. Nice. And then after that, about a month later, we go on tour with the Word Alive. Nice. Yeah, that's good shit. I love Make Them Suffer. Oh, they're so great. We're very excited. So anything else you want to share with the audience. Besides big symptoms and having fun at rock though? I don't think so. Yeah, I mean, what else is more important? Yep? Exactly, Yeah, yeah, that's.

23:37 The most important thing. And see, like you like, I love your piercings. I like yours too. But I'm saying because she's got a lot of them, but it doesn't look that way. Yeah, like some of the people I look at that they have like a hundred of them on there. On my that's a little bit much, okay, But yours is kind of like it's like wear makeup. It's just kind of like a accessorises. Yeah. I just want some blingling everywhere. That's it. That's the way it should be. So keep sparkling here. At Welcome to Rockville, and thanks for being on the Adventures pipe Man once again. Of course, thank you, thank you so much. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipemin on w fur c u I Radio