Aug. 18, 2026

Ourselves Among Others: Nostalgia, Modern Metal, and the Art of Reinventing Live Music

Ourselves Among Others: Nostalgia, Modern Metal, and the Art of Reinventing Live Music
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The conversation focused on the journey, experiences, and perspectives of the band Ourselves Among Others, highlighting their reunion, new music, and the evolving world of music promotion and fandom. The discussion explored nostalgia, generational shifts in music consumption, the importance of live shows, and the challenges and excitement of being a modern band navigating social media, festivals, and the music business.Main Topics Covered

  • Touring, festivals, and the thrill of live performance
  • The role of nostalgia in music for both artists and fans
  • Evolution of music promotion: from MySpace and tape trading to TikTok
  • Band dynamics and division of labor, especially around social media
  • Writing, recording, and releasing new music in today’s landscape
  • Managing fan expectations and setlists with new and old material
  • Memorable stories from venues, fan interactions, and first shows
  • Navigating the music industry, management, and networking
  • Upcoming shows and releases
Key Discussions & StoriesTouring and Festivals
  • Attending and covering major festivals such as Wacken, Bloodstock, and Warped Tour, with Ourselves Among Others considered a highlight among these events 00:36.
  • Comparing the excitement and unique environment of festivals and the sense of community they create 29:48.
Music, Nostalgia, and Change
  • Reflecting on changes in how music is consumed—vinyl, cassette, 8-tracks, and modern streaming 02:27.
  • One concept discussed was how nostalgia shapes musical tastes and band-fan relationships, referencing bands like Bring Me the Horizon, Metallica, and Slayer 11:13, 19:21.
  • The maturity and evolution of sound for both bands and their listeners, balancing old fans’ wants with artistic growth 11:13.
Promotion and Social Media
  • Comparing the DIY roots of band promotion with modern digital demands. Several points were raised, including how social channels have made some things easier but also introduced new, constant pressures 06:36.
  • Insights into dividing up the workload within the band, with roles for handling TikTok, creative tasks, communication, and management 07:08.
Songwriting, Releases, and Fan Interaction
  • The discussion explored writing new material, feedback from both old and new fans, and the positive response to songs like "Death Race," "Stay Another Day," and "War Inside" 09:44, 24:24.
  • Managing setlists and crowd expectations, especially at festivals where showtime is limited 16:25.
  • Stories about the creative process, including the multi-year journey for the song "War Inside" and filming its DIY music video in Santa Cruz 25:21.
Band Stories and Trivia
  • Sharing behind-the-scenes stories about gear, songwriting, and trading instruments among band members 28:07.
  • Rock trivia moments, such as the secret to Hetfield’s downpicking and Paul McCartney’s journey from guitarist to bassist 33:41, 36:07.
Memorable Venues and Scenes
  • Anecdotes about early band shows in small bars, iconic cross-genre concerts, and the camaraderie of the metal and punk scenes 21:21, 22:23.
  • The impact of formative shows on both fans and musicians, and how these memories create lasting connections 19:53.
Upcoming Shows and Releases
  • Upcoming appearances at Titan Fest and Ace of Spades with Of Mice & Men 28:34.
  • Announcement of new music, including an upcoming song titled "Make Your Own Luck" and the premiere of "Rusted Halo" at the November show with Of Mice & Men 42:33.
Notable Quotes
  • "Music is an experience, like an immersive experience a song is. I don't get the whole concept of I've listened to 10 seconds of this song and I've heard the whole song already." 17:27
  • "If my music can change one person’s life, that’s all that matters. I’ve already exceeded that expectation. So now, now we're just enjoying the ride." 42:20
  • "We respond to DMs if you want to talk to us, if you want to hang out. Come to a show." 40:23
  • "We were nostalgia to ourselves... Albums used to have intros, albums used to have interludes, albums used to have outros. Let's make a gift for ourselves. Let's write a story." 15:54
Resources & Links Mentioned
  • Band on Social Media and Streaming
    • @ourselvesamongothers on TikTok, Facebook, Apple Music, Spotify, Instagram, and soon MySpace 37:40
    • Official merch: via Linktree in their Instagram bio (with limited edition items at live shows) 40:09
  • Upcoming Shows
    • Titan Fest – Next festival appearance 28:34
    • Ace of Spades with Of Mice & Men – November 21 28:39
    • Local show in Modesto, CA (date following Titan Fest) 40:33
    • Song premiere: "Rusted Halo" debuting at the Ace of Spades show in November 42:39
  • Latest Releases
    • Recent single: "War Inside" (Available on streaming platforms) 24:24
    • Music video for "War Inside" filmed in Santa Cruz 25:57
    • Upcoming: "Make Your Own Luck" (release date TBA) 42:33
Connect with Ourselves Among Others
  • Follow Ourselves Among Others on all major platforms: 37:40
  • Merch available via the Instagram bio Linktree – exclusive and live-only editions offered 40:09
  • Fans encouraged to reach out, connect, and attend upcoming shows for unique experiences and limited edition merchandise 40:23
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It is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man W four C Y Radio. And I'm excited about

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our next guest. Boy. What a day. I got ten

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million interviews because I was out on the Pipe Man

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radio tour and doing festivals, and now everybody had to

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do interviews today and I got more approvals at it.

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And now I have this band. Who's the highlight of

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it all. Forget fucking forget Bloodstock, forget Warp Tour, forget

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all that. I have ourselves among others with us, and

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that's the best highlight of the day.

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What's up, brother, Nice to meet you, man, can't wait

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to be here, super excited to be here.

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Thank you so much. And better than a warp tour man.

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That's called man. I don't know if I believe you,

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but I'll take it.

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I'll take you well. Like I mentioned Vadkin too. You

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know about Vakin, right?

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I haven't heard that.

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Oh it's called the Holy Ground. It's the biggest metal

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festival in the world. It's in Germany. I was just

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I was just there and then I was at Bloodstock.

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Do you know that festival?

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Ye?

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No, Bloodstock yes.

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Yeah, yeah, So I went from Vakan the bloodstock to

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you guys.

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It's an honor to be in the same list.

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Man, There you go. And then I'm going to warp

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tour Montreal on the twentieth. And then I just got

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approval for Mexico City, So there you go, brother.

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They wouldn't want to be anywhere else warped towards.

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Where it's at, no doubt. I can't believe it's back.

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It's I can't believe they're bringing my space back too,

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Like what right, I just.

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Heard about that.

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Man, We're gonna have to get on there and see

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if we could re unlock our coating skills, because.

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Those are the days that you could actually like promote

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your band the right way.

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Yeah, right, exactly.

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Came to you back then, you know what I mean,

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Like we you didn't have to search the band out

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the band. The band tracked you down and said you're

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gonna like this music.

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So I showed and this random coffee shop.

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Yeah I know right. It was the modern day version

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of the tape trading days that I grew up in.

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Yeah, and it's cool because all that all that vintage

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and retro stuff now like vinyls cassettes I've even seen.

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Uh. I believe it was the Browning They they made

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eight tracks.

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Really, I've been talking about that with all the bands

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making cassettes, and that was like they beat the banker

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eight tracks. Man. Yeah, I had.

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True yeah, insane Browning Browning houses. I think everything that

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you can sell they have at their merch table.

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So that's so killer. I had Blizzard of Oz on

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eight track, and I had my match book handy so

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that it could prop it up and be at the

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right speed. Otherwise Ozzie sounded more like maybe, uh, I

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don't know, hell Hammer or something like that.

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And then and then to listen to music, man crazy.

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No doubt. And then mister Crowley would split between tracks,

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so it would fade out of track two and then

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fade back in for track three. You'd hear to click

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to the next track, and it would be right in

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the middle of mister Crowley.

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Man, I'll tell you what.

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Living in California, man, I developed my biggest fear probably

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about ten years ago. I ordered a special edition Scary Kids,

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Scaring Kids vinyl record. They only made a certain amount

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of prints.

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I was so stoked to get it. Middle of summer.

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It came in probably prime a lie California heat and uh,

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it sat in my mailbox for no longer than two hours,

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got it inside, cut the package open, put it on

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my vinyl record, my player, and that record was sitting like.

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Oh yeah, I remember those days. I remember those days

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too much, and like I lived in LA during the

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eighties sunset strip days. Yeah, so you know, I don't

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know that I remember most of it, you know, because

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if you were no, no, if you remember it, you

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weren't really there. And thank god we did have social

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media that ship, because there's no proof of all the

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ship that I'd be in big trouble for right now.

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Oh man, you enough what I ate for breakfast today, exactly.

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Man, I don't like that ship. I don't want everybody

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to I listen. I was just taking a family member

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to the airport and they were losing their ship at

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the airport, and I'm like, fuck, I'm gonna be on

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social media for this shit.

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Yeah, It's it's crazy world with everybody watching.

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But I mean that's the nice part about doing music

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now is like, uh, you see those those those true interactions,

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and you see the people who are living in the

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moment at the live shows, man, and it's like meeting

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the fans again, like you know, we're in our thirties

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doing it now, and you still have the phones and

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everything like that, which is cool because after the show's over,

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everybody's tagging you and posting you and doing all this stuff,

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posting the.

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Memories, which is beautiful.

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But like you still get those those great interactions at

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live shows, and no, I don't.

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I still don't think, you know, there's nothing to this

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day that'll beat a live show.

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Like no, I feel like when we're listening to music

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on the radio, you're either in preparation to go to

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a live show or you're recapping leaving a live show,

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and you're kind of just reliving that memory these days.

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Yeah, And for me, back in the eighties, if it

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was on the radio, I'm not fucking listening to it anymore,

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you know, because like back then, metal then get played

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on the radio. So once it did, that means they

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shifted to like hair metal or some shit like that.

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Like nope, you're a supposer, sell out. I'm not listening anymore.

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You're on the radio, you know. But I mean, it

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is it's interesting that there's pros and cons to both times.

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Like you, as a band, it's much easier for you

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to get exposure due to socials and things like that.

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You know, you don't have to do the work sometimes

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that those eighties bands did, you know. But but in

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the same token, you gotta do a lot more fucking

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work on social media.

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Yeah, Frozen cons to it for sure. Nothing like thirty

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years old and dancing for TikTok, right.

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I know, right, And it's like, fuck man, I can't

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even keep up with it anymore. Like now, and they're

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bringing my space back. I'm like, fuck another one. I

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gotta do now. And it's like it's like a full

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time I feel bad for musicians. It is a full

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time job to just do to social media. I don't

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even know when you have time to write music.

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We you know what we.

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Are, our band as a whole, We kind of broke

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everything down to where everybody has a job. There's five

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of us. So Drew, which is our our streaming streamer

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in the band. He's our tech guy. Man, he's savvy.

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He knows the ups and downs left and right, so

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the algorithm and man, if you go on our TikTok,

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I think he posts like three times a day. There's

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posts that we don't even know about.

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Actually for this interview, and I saw a couple of

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post I didn't even see that.

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Yeah, yeah, I don't even have enough time in the

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day to do three tiktoks.

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Man, It's it's we got We got lucky with the

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five people we have. You know, me and Matt do

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a lot of the creative you know, he does a

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lot of the bookkeeping and stuff like that. I do

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more of the ideas for the art and stuff like,

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you know, on that side of it, and then Richard

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focuses mostly on his guitar. He does a lot of

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the emailing back and forth there. And then you know,

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we just signed with uh CB Entertainment and you know

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he's doing the heavy heavy lifting for us in the background.

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You know, a beautiful manager to have, and so.

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He is out to us.

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He is incredible. You're absolutely lucky because yeah, you know,

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there's a lot of people in this business I wouldn't

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say you're lucky about and he's definitely one of them.

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You are, dude, I mean, yeah, for for the day

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that we got that email, and you know, we try

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to do our due diligence, and we we have friends

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in the scene, and you know, bands that have been

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around and you just you talk to people, ask them.

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And yet you know, we've gotten mixed reviews on other

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other ventures we've taken and you know, oh that's good

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or no, that might not be the best path for you, guys,

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And sometimes you got to make your own mistakes. And

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then when Chris reached out to us, we did our

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due diligence again and started asking around and we couldn't

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even We were trying, man, we were trying to find somebody,

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like we were going to give him a hundred bucks say

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something bad about this guy, but like we couldn't find

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anybody to say anything bad about him.

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to like buddies and bigger bands are like, no, no,

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that is he's a great guy.

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Like yeah send it.

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Yeah, so's he's doing excellent in his career.

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And I'm we're stoked to have him part of the family.

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And uh, you know see where this this journey takes us,

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Like we're we're blessed to even be in this position.

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Man.

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You know, we we started off back in twenty twenty

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three of just getting this back together of possibly doing

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a tour of you know, just the songs that we

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did in high school. Just you know, get back together

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and let's let's do some of the old songs. See

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if anybody shows up. We'll just we'll run around California

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and see if anybody likes it, and then we'll we'll

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continue living on our lives. And then we wrote two

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new songs, which were Death Race and Stay Another Day.

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And the feedback they got and the the fandom that

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kind of you know, pulled in from it, which was

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the old nostalgia guys from the my space or the

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you know, the newer fans, which is the younger generation,

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the kids, or you know, some of the metal heads

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that never even got a chance to hear us.

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It was beautiful. So then we just.

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Never stopped writing. We just kept going with it, and

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the family kept kept growing, and you know, the songs

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keep rolling in. We try to try to get a

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new song every other month, and you know, we we

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we just keep rolling.

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Man, good things keep happening.

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Nice. I love that, you know, because it is hard

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when you have the nostalgia people like you look at

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bring Me and how many of their core fans were like,

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and I know I was like that with Metallica when

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the Black album came out, Like I was at their

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first show ever in Black. I'm like, you fuck impose

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or sellouts, you know. But like now you hear like

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the new Bring Me they just released, it's like they

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went back to their roots. And I think that's smart.

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But you know, I always said it best, like why

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I want write the same song over and over again?

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So when you go away from a little bit, I

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think it kind of puts that juice back into you

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to do it again, because yeah, poke a little break

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from what the nostalgia was, you know exactly.

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Yeah, I mean, and you know we were sixteen, seventeen

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years old back then, you know, uh, just youngsters doing it.

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So not only do do sounds change and.

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Voices change and bands change, because you know, it's it's

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not the same members or anything anymore.

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But like a couple, yeah, just just a couple original guys.

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But like everything changes over time, and the voices changed,

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and your your feelings change, your outlook on life change.

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Really changes the maturity with it, Like understanding is a

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disagre ring.

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We can find the middle ground going oh you know,

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what let's try. That's rude.

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Yeah not exactly, bro, but I go play except yeah, yeah, exactly.

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And you actually are better at playing, like when you're six.

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Usually you're not really that good yet because you're just

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starting and you know, some people maybe, but you know,

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the more you play, the more you get better at

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your craft. So of course you don't want to sound

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like you're a beginner anymore, which is where you got

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to do that, like walk that fine line between the

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new and the and the nostalgia, because the nostalgia people

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want you to still suck, you know, and you don't

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as an artist, you know. Yeah, so yeah, I think

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it's cool that you realize that too. And you know,

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all I kept thinking about when you were talking about

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that too is when I've interviewed Joe from the Vandals

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several times, and like, he knows, there's certain questions I

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won't ask. So one time he brought one up that

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everybody asked that I wouldn't and he's like, and don't

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ask me, pipe man. When the Vandals are coming out

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with new music, because nobody wants to hear a fifty

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something year old write and punk rock songs, and it's

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like It's kind of true because like Blink one A

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two as an example, they were playing Aftershock one year

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and everybody was leaving because they were all, well, this

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was cool while I was fifteen, but it doesn't really

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apply to me anymore. And you know, it's true, like

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even if you take somebody who's a friend of mine

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who actually is a metal head, you would never believe

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Vanilla Ice, Okay, he lives near me, he's cool ass, dude.

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I never thought I was. He was cool till I

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met him. Like other than that, I was like, somebody

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came up to me and they're like, hey, man, you

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should interview Vanilla Ice, and I rolled my eyes. I'm like,

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why you know? And so it's funny. I was. I

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was doing one of his events and he was helping

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me unload my car all the radio equipment and that

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had slipknot blasting and he was banging his head and

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I looked at him and rolled my eyes on him.

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I'm like, really, he goes, no, man, this is my jam, dude.

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Like I fucking wrote Ice Ice Baby when I was sixteen.

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I'm so sick of singing that song, but I have to,

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you know, And that's what you get or like I

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prevail whatever, Yeah, you Eric all the time, I don't

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know this song product will will not play their cover anymore.

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They they did, they don't want to do it.

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Still fly, they had huge popularity, they love doing it,

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but man, they do not want to do it anymore.

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I don't blame him. It's not there, not their jam anymore,

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you know what I mean?

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They exactly They want to show you what they still

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have and they're still killing it.

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Yeah, And who the hell wants to play like a

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cover as the one that everybody's listening to waiting for

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that you're sick of playing as it is, it was

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probably just a joke to begin with, you know, type

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of thing. And it's it's true. Eric was he's on stage,

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He's like, all right, I guess we're gonna sing the

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song that we have to sing, and I don't want

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to fucking sing. Yeah, And it is a good version.

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They'll get wrong, but you know, I get his point

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of view, Like even with your old songs, your own

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old songs, sometimes we feel that way.

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As new as we kind of are.

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Elody kind of had that happen with a couple of

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songs we got a couple fans that are like every

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show they're costly, why aren't you playing this song to night?

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Or why an't you playing this time? Like because we can't. Yeah,

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we we do have that, you know.

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We we took a different approach when we we decided

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to start playing shows. Is you know, we took the

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entirety of twenty twenty three, which is the year that

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we you know, got together as as our band and

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decided to sit down and write the entire album. We

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we sat down, we started all right, wrote out a

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kind of a game plan there and shot for I

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believe it's seven full songs interlude, intro, and out outro,

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and we were just nostalgia to ourselves kind of thing like, Yeah,

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albums used to have intros, our albums used to have interviews,

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albums used to have outros, And we're like, let's make

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a gift for ourselves. We're here, we have the opportunity. Uh,

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let's write a story. And that's kind of what we

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did with Infinite in that.

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In that aspect, we wrote a story of how we

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were feeling at that time.

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And when you start playing shows and you have that

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many songs, your time slots don't fit that many songs, right,

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We're lucky to get five. And you know our songs.

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We we're not rushing out two minute bangers. We're we're

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writing three to four minute songs. So yeah, we were,

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we were probably pushing about five songs and every show, when.

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Are we When am I gonna hear this song? When

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are we gonna hear that song? Will doesn't help it.

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We're also immediately.

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After the album we started writing writing, Yeah, we already

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have we go back next month. We'll have five new

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songs just this year that are on that album. So

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it's like it just it also goes off the vibe

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of the show. If playing a festival, we don't want

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to play you a sad song. I want to keep

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you moving, or it's like you can't play everyone yeah

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at all times, which so you have.

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To go all out at it. You have to go

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all out at a festival. You have such a short

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time slot. Now, oh yeah, you can't. There's no time

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for a lull. And I love what you said about

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the intros and stuff like that, because some of my

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favorite songs ever kids today would not listen to because

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they wouldn't wait the ten seconds for the brutality to start,

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you know, and it's like it's weird to me because

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music is an experience, like immersive experience a song is,

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and I don't get the whole concept of I've listened

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to ten seconds of this song and I've heard the

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whole song already because I listened to ten seconds, you know.

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Yeah, No, I completely agree. And it's just like I

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think music is more of.

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You.

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Like like we were talking about how people change and

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age and and things like that. The music that you're

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listening to at that at that time, at that part

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of your life, whether you've been listening to that band

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for one year compared to you've been listening to that

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band for twenty years, it's kind of a stamp on

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on how you were and who you were at that time. Yeah,

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I'll listen to a Data Member, Devar's product, Blink two,

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you know, story so far, Metallica's But you know, I

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can name the world, but every one of those bands

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that I listened to, I think when I pressed play

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that play button, that stamp comes back in my head

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of the first time you listen to them. Where what

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it relates to those memories that come back? You know

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what I mean the first time I seen uh. I

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lived in Reno for a little bit after I graduated

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high school, and first time I seen Devors Prada was

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in a venue called the Aquarium.

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I'm not even sure it existed anymore, does there?

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Eight oh Ways were so loud, dust was coming off

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the ceiling and nice. I've seen other bands there. I've

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seen park Way, Drive a Data, remember, Motionless and White

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back when they were not who.

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They were, And Devilar's Prada is.

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The only band that I've seen the building roof tile

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shaking with dust coming off because their music was so loud.

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And that's what I'm saying.

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You press play on a song, even if it's you know,

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something like sacrifice or something new, that's where that memory goes.

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That's where it goes.

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Yeah, where your punch stample is.

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It's funny you should say that because that's why so

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many people are the way they are. Like when I

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was talking about Bring Me recently, there's some people that

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are just in that death core area era that was

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nostalgia for him. Metallica as an example. My favorite albums

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Kill Them All? Now? Would that be most people's favorite album?

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No?

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Only the people that were there in the beginning because

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of nostalgia. Same with Slayer. Show No Mercy is my

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favorite album. Everybody wants say Rain and Blood, I say

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Show No Mercy. Maiden Killers for sure my favorite Maiden album.

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You know, AC DC, Bond Scott years now. That doesn't

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mean I don't like the stuff after. It just means

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that Dead's like you said, it holds a special place

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in time, time stamps in your brain that brings back

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to these feelings and brings you back to that time,

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and it's hard to let go of that.

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I mean, we're we're all just excuse me, humans at

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the end of the day, and and whether we fight.

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It or not, are our brains.

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I think run on that and that nostalgia button, and

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music is built on that factor of it gets you

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that itch and whether you know, let's let's use Sleep

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Theory as an example. Brand new band blowing up out

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of nowhere. You know they're Their vocals are awesome, instruments

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are awesome. I've only been listening to them for about

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a year. I have a stamp from the first time

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I've seen them live. No clue who they were they

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were opening up for or for plotting You and Bear

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tooth and I was like, I heard good things about

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this guy's voice. I'm a huge fan. Now you know,

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I already have a stamp from them. It only took

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a year, you know, and it's it's it's awesome. I

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hope that one day that you know, we developed fans

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or we get to we get to be that stamp

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for people to where hey, we saw those guys at

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a venue that was less than three hundred people. We

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saw those guys that I mean, our first show that

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we played in Santa Cruz was a bar, and I

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woul think that.

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Was about first show. But our first show in Santa

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Cruz was a bar.

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Oh say, twenty thirty people, but bar turned upside down.

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Yeah.

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We had you know, age ranges from sixty five year

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old guys washing down to the twenty one year olds

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who could just barely get into the bar, you know,

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losing their mind, bartender, barstools were moving around, and you know,

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so that might be a stamp for somebody like, hey,

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I caught them in Santa Cruz and in.

432
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The jury room with thirty other people, like, you know,

433
00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:48.640
fifteen people.

434
00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:52.000
Yeah, exactly. Well that's like for me, I was at

435
00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:54.920
the first crossover show. Ever. It was at the Sun

436
00:21:55.000 --> 00:21:58.319
Valley Sportsman's Lodge, which was like an Elk lodge in

437
00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:02.079
the in the San Fernando Valley, and there was no

438
00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:05.599
security before that. Long hairs can't go to punk shows,

439
00:22:05.640 --> 00:22:09.000
punks can go to metal shows. It was stupid as shit.

440
00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:12.759
But then we had three punk bands, three metal bands,

441
00:22:13.279 --> 00:22:16.559
you know, and a couple of those bands you know,

442
00:22:16.720 --> 00:22:21.200
crossed over after that, but it was there was no security.

443
00:22:21.240 --> 00:22:24.759
It was fucking mayhem. So now one of the punk

444
00:22:24.839 --> 00:22:29.200
bands was coc when they were hardcore punk in the

445
00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:32.960
beginning before Pepper and I've interviewed two of their band

446
00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:38.200
members from then, you know that on two separate occasions,

447
00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:41.200
and I said, you probably don't remember this show in

448
00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:44.039
the mid I mentioned the Sun Valley Sportsman's Lodge. Are

449
00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:47.559
both of them on separate occasions. Oh, that was like

450
00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:50.400
an Elks lodge, right, That was the most epic show ever.

451
00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:53.799
So even for the band, Yeah, that happens. They have

452
00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:56.200
this time stamp of something.

453
00:22:56.119 --> 00:23:00.400
You know, Yeah, like actually that I kind of do that, like,

454
00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:03.519
you know, I never realized it, you know, now that

455
00:23:03.519 --> 00:23:03.920
we're doing.

456
00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:06.519
Music is a huge part of his networking.

457
00:23:06.880 --> 00:23:08.559
So you go to these shows and you want to

458
00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:10.400
meet you know, you have the fans meeting the bands,

459
00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:13.000
but then you know, as a band meeting a band,

460
00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:16.880
you're kind of like feeling the vibe, feeling the human

461
00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:19.119
you know, you already know you like their music, and

462
00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:20.880
you're kind of just seeing if you can make that

463
00:23:20.920 --> 00:23:24.440
connection a little stronger. But from guys that we used

464
00:23:24.440 --> 00:23:27.480
to open up for back in high school, you know,

465
00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:32.519
from all of our different projects back then, we Attack

466
00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:35.000
Attack came back around, you know, and Andrew's still drumming

467
00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:36.880
for them. So we met him after the show and

468
00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:38.880
I was like, dude, you know, it's crazy we opened

469
00:23:38.920 --> 00:23:43.400
for you way back then. And it took like pause, thinking, thinking,

470
00:23:43.480 --> 00:23:45.519
and then the light bulb went off and he's like,

471
00:23:45.599 --> 00:23:49.279
oh my god, bro, that was you know, almost twenty

472
00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:49.880
years ago.

473
00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:55.799
Like that's insane, right, it is wild? And uh, that's

474
00:23:55.880 --> 00:24:00.000
what's cool about metal, Yeah, because we're just one big community,

475
00:24:00.200 --> 00:24:03.359
one big family with a lot of nostalgia. I don't

476
00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:07.559
think there's any other genre besides metal or punk that

477
00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:13.440
could say that, because, like, do you remember who even

478
00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:15.720
the biggest pop artists are. There are some of the

479
00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:18.240
biggest pop artists. If you had asked the kid today,

480
00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:20.440
they wouldn't know who they are, but you mentioned the Misfits.

481
00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:24.039
They know who the Misfits are, you know, perfect example.

482
00:24:24.960 --> 00:24:29.920
And I love this song war Inside too, that.

483
00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:31.400
The new one we just came out with.

484
00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:37.240
Yeah, yeah, that is killer. That is killer, and I

485
00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:42.359
just you know, people view things different ways. But immediately,

486
00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:46.240
without even listening to this song, I was like, oh, yeah,

487
00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:48.480
all of us on Earth right now are having a

488
00:24:48.519 --> 00:24:49.680
war inside our head?

489
00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:55.640
Yeah, you know, we we definitely uh you know, I

490
00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:58.240
think I think pretty much everybody's age you have a

491
00:24:58.279 --> 00:25:01.640
touch of you know, trauma. If you don't, you're you're

492
00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:05.400
beautifully lucky. But we kind of, you know, we know

493
00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:07.279
what the other members of the band have gone through.

494
00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:08.960
And we take a lot of our songs and we

495
00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:11.799
write them together. We send drafts to each other and

496
00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:14.279
see if anything needs to change. And that was one

497
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:17.759
that when I was coming up with it, that song

498
00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:19.799
just came out. What did we drop that about a

499
00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:22.680
month and a half ago. A month and a half ago,

500
00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:28.160
and those lyrics started forming back in twenty twenty two

501
00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:30.119
before we even got this going.

502
00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:32.240
That was something that was.

503
00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:35.359
In the notes of my phone and the process and

504
00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:37.720
you know, you're working with the other guys and having

505
00:25:37.799 --> 00:25:40.000
them clean it up for me, ad lines here or

506
00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:43.319
there and and do stuff like that. Yeah, that's that's

507
00:25:43.359 --> 00:25:45.640
been in the process for about four years. So that

508
00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:49.039
was probably one of my favorite songs to come to Fruition.

509
00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:52.240
And then I don't know if you were able to

510
00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:55.839
catch the music video, but we went entirely DIY with

511
00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:59.319
that entire song. That music video shot in Santa Cruz,

512
00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:03.319
Cruise of the off the cliffs out there, and you know,

513
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:06.519
just the runs. I had a vision of that song

514
00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:09.319
of I wanted that beautiful run.

515
00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:12.160
The every step by tick but.

516
00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:16.039
Devil's product sitting in the back of my head, I

517
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:19.359
wanted Mike. You know, Mike's vocals is what I was

518
00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:21.720
hearing in the back of my head when I was

519
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:23.480
singing it. So I was like, Drew, I want you

520
00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:27.240
to match exactly what I sing and do a run

521
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:31.920
of screams and just blend them to this beautiful harmony.

522
00:26:31.960 --> 00:26:34.799
And that's probably one of my favorite things that we've

523
00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:35.519
written so far.

524
00:26:35.599 --> 00:26:38.359
Man, that that came out so good. It's fun.

525
00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:42.319
Yeah, that's killer, And see I like hearing that too.

526
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:44.799
That's fun as hell to play. I think that's another

527
00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:47.359
thing too that people don't realize it is like there's

528
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:50.839
some songs more fun to play to others for an artist. Yeah,

529
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:55.359
and so some of those songs that maybe they want

530
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:59.359
you to play aren't fun anymore. You know, you play that,

531
00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:02.000
when you play it like a thousand times, how fun

532
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:02.680
is it still?

533
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:06.319
You know, one of our most popular songs that I

534
00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:09.519
loved to sing, he hates it because it's one of

535
00:27:09.519 --> 00:27:11.200
our more difficult songs to play.

536
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:13.400
It's not that it's difficult. I just.

537
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:16.559
At the time, I wasn't in the band when they

538
00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:19.839
started recording that, and I kind of did Sebi records,

539
00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:21.759
but I didn't want to change up too much of

540
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:24.960
the bass on it as was because it was already out.

541
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:28.640
It's just things. I guess you could change it more live,

542
00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:30.880
but I learned it the way it was and accord

543
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:31.200
the way.

544
00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:34.200
It's just I don't know. I wrote the bass on that.

545
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:36.519
When we first formed back together.

546
00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:39.720
I was the bassis. I made it technically myself, and

547
00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:40.640
I don't like to know.

548
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:45.680
And when I was doing bass and vocals, I simplified

549
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:47.519
everything because you know, I had a mic in front

550
00:27:47.559 --> 00:27:49.799
of me, so I wasn't always able to look down

551
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:53.400
and see what I'm doing. And then, you know, as

552
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:57.480
we progress, I was like, I should either get one

553
00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:58.359
of these out of the way.

554
00:27:58.400 --> 00:27:59.920
I'm either gonna move.

555
00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:03.079
On from the vocal side of things and make bass

556
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:05.759
more technical, or i should move on from bass and

557
00:28:05.799 --> 00:28:09.519
make my vocals more technical. And then that's when you know,

558
00:28:09.559 --> 00:28:12.079
we were talking, you know, as a band, and one

559
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:13.519
of our band members told.

560
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:14.400
Us that he was available.

561
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:17.200
He plays bass, you know, he was in organ at

562
00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:20.000
the time when we did that, and so we brought

563
00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:22.079
him in and I handed him my bass guitar and

564
00:28:22.079 --> 00:28:23.000
I said, this is your job.

565
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:30.599
Now, nice, give you mine back. Then, no, that thing,

566
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:32.279
I have every ball you can keep your shatter.

567
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:37.240
And then you guys are going to be a titan

568
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:40.359
Fest on the fifth that's pretty cool. And then and

569
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:44.480
then Iconic Ace of Spades on the twenty first of November.

570
00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:46.559
That's that's pretty badass, bro.

571
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:50.200
We cannot wait for both of those shows. Actually, titan

572
00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:53.200
Fest being the first festival we have. You know, the

573
00:28:53.519 --> 00:28:56.720
best way to describe that is, you know the minor

574
00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:01.480
leagues for for Metal, U're right there next to Aftershock

575
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:04.440
and it's right right near after Shock weekends. So uh,

576
00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:06.400
you know, these are these are the bands that are

577
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:08.880
trying to the locals, you know, all up and down

578
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:12.720
the California scene, trying to to break in or if

579
00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:15.200
you know some we have you know Arsenal skitt all

580
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:19.400
girls who've been massive back in the past. Uh, just

581
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:21.640
California metal scene and.

582
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:23.920
Yeah, and.

583
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:27.680
All all the guys that are working their way towards

584
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:30.720
after Shock, towards Warped Tour, towards you know, all this

585
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.680
and it still has that that that vibe that After

586
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:36.079
Shock or Warped Tour, you know vibe that it's not

587
00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:38.039
just metal court, it's not just death.

588
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:39.480
It's it's a mix of everything.

589
00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:42.680
You know, it's all these different musicians coming together for

590
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:45.960
titan Fest and then Ace of Spades. Man, I mean,

591
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:47.720
what could I say other than a dream come true?

592
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:51.920
Uh to be with the heavy hitters of Mice and men.

593
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:55.960
You know, I have videos being a kid, you know

594
00:29:56.119 --> 00:30:00.279
at Warped Tour, I ditched, you know whatever where I

595
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.680
had to do that weekend at home. Found somebody else

596
00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:05.079
who's going there through you know, ten to fifteen bucks

597
00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:07.839
for a ride to San Francisco and Seene of Mice

598
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:11.720
of Men playing on my probably I don't know where

599
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:15.720
those call the Samsung Chocolate back then, you know, the

600
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:16.799
little sliding phones.

601
00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:22.240
I have a video of you know, rich motor videos

602
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:22.880
of your bands.

603
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.640
You know, Oh yeah, you were wanting to rich people.

604
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:28.799
See I was like I had a flip phone.

605
00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:30.440
But you know what I mean, like just being a

606
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:32.319
kid and seeing the guys in the Mice of Men

607
00:30:32.440 --> 00:30:35.200
and then now being in communication with him and Aaron

608
00:30:35.240 --> 00:30:39.079
Paul's uh you know producing our uh sorry, mixing and

609
00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:41.000
mastering our music now, nice.

610
00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:44.000
Dude, beautiful beautiful souls.

611
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:46.440
In that band, and for them to give us this opportunity,

612
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:53.599
we are putting our full heart and our whole foot, arm, leg, head, voice, finger,

613
00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:55.359
everything into that show.

614
00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:56.079
Uh.

615
00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:57.880
If you want to see the best version of us,

616
00:30:58.359 --> 00:30:59.200
come to that show.

617
00:30:59.519 --> 00:31:01.720
If you can't make it that show, tell somebody to

618
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:04.960
record it, because yeah, we're giving that show everything we got.

619
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:06.160
Man, you know thirty minutes.

620
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:09.799
They are killer dudes. They are killer dudes too, like yeah,

621
00:31:09.960 --> 00:31:15.519
as human beings.

622
00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:15.519
Only like to give us the opportunity of being on

623
00:31:15.519 --> 00:31:16.640
the show with them and open.

624
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:18.480
At Ace of Spades. I never thought I'd get to

625
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:18.920
play there.

626
00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:21.680
It's one of those places I've always under play, but

627
00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:23.680
also being as open as they are to be able

628
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:25.200
to reach out and ask questions.

629
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:26.039
Communications.

630
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:30.400
Okay, you know like our drummer, he talks to their drummer. Okay,

631
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.400
I got a question, and he's so quick and honest.

632
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:34.559
It's great people.

633
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:37.279
That's cool to hear. That's cool to hear. And I

634
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.960
went doubt if Wimmer would be at titan Fest looking

635
00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:43.880
for some new bands to bring to the Wimmor festivals,

636
00:31:44.119 --> 00:31:45.279
because he does that ship.

637
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:48.880
You know, you know we are if we know, we

638
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.799
know who you are, Danny. So I mean, all we

639
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:54.559
got to do is get that twisted right of the

640
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:56.440
way around and let him know who we are. And

641
00:31:56.799 --> 00:31:58.759
the only way you could do that is by putting

642
00:31:58.759 --> 00:31:59.279
on a good show.

643
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:02.680
We got, uh some plans for that show.

644
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:06.319
Yeah, even if people have seen us live, they're not

645
00:32:06.359 --> 00:32:08.480
gonna be ready for a couple of things that that day.

646
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:12.319
Oh yeah, we had to scratch the plans for the

647
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:14.759
T shirt cannon because we didn't know how expensive they were.

648
00:32:14.839 --> 00:32:16.720
But uh yeah, we we we pivoted.

649
00:32:16.920 --> 00:32:21.599
So oh man, that's the only reason I was going

650
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:22.359
the T shirt.

651
00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:25.160
Hey, I got it, I'll throw I was gonna say,

652
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:26.440
I'll get one of my friends and used to play

653
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:28.079
football or something, just come and start throwing.

654
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:30.559
I just played bass. I can just stop.

655
00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:38.279
Right. I want. I want to see you throw picks,

656
00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:41.720
guitar picks as far as the T shirt cannon. Can

657
00:32:41.880 --> 00:32:43.880
that flick it? Yeah?

658
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:45.599
I can think I can flick it further than I

659
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:46.079
can throw.

660
00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:48.839
It depends on if you maybe uh uh.

661
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:56.880
Car throw. Yeah, you're gonna get stories guitar pick throws man.

662
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:03.119
Okay, so I'll give you a trivia question. Okay, speaking

663
00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:11.519
of guitar picks, why is Hetfield the greatest downpicker ever?

664
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:21.440
What's the strategy? Mmend, go ahead.

665
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:25.319
It's gotta be something about the strings, right you?

666
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:26.359
No, Nope.

667
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.839
The I feel like I actually heard this before, and

668
00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:33.759
that's what's killing me right now because.

669
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:36.240
Think about what we were just talking about.

670
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:41.680
Clicking oh, because you play a lot of poker now.

671
00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:46.359
He calls the guitar pick with three fingers instead of

672
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:52.000
and I'm thinking about when I heard that, and I'm like, yeah,

673
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:54.440
that would fucking do it, because you're doing with two

674
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:57.599
and sometimes it flies out of your hand, but with three,

675
00:33:58.279 --> 00:34:00.559
you have such a stronghold on that pick.

676
00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:05.000
Yeah, being a bassis we used. We used three fingers too,

677
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.640
so yeah, because I will. I mean, he uses.

678
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.639
Guitar picks when he plays bass, so he's basically just

679
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:11.920
more like a guitar pick.

680
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:14.760
But I used the like Ernie Ball version of it. Yeah,

681
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:16.880
I used to the one I did it. I used

682
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:18.599
the bigger bass picks that Ernie Ball ones.

683
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:22.480
Well, I also use the thinner ones because occasionally I

684
00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:23.199
don't use to pick.

685
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:25.480
I'll go to fingers sometime on like a softer part

686
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:28.079
or something, so I can easily not catch the pick

687
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:29.599
when I'm playing. He keeps on him to slap the

688
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:32.960
bass man. He's just like eleven bas.

689
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:37.280
Okay, there's another trip. There's another trivia question for it.

690
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:40.679
Who's the most famous bassist in history that started off

691
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:44.360
as a guitarist and basically drew the short straw to

692
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.800
be the bassis in the back? Is it nope?

693
00:34:48.679 --> 00:34:48.920
Ship?

694
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:53.519
He had one? Yes, that was a good guess. Katie's

695
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:54.599
a freaking god.

696
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:59.760
It's nothing different tool, is it Nope? You gotta go

697
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:05.960
further back, rush I said, Getty. Getty is Rushy can

698
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:08.960
tell you? You know, I know there's good ship there

699
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:13.320
in Santa Claus but I'm trying to think we're back.

700
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:15.360
Fleet.

701
00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:18.480
No, no, no, gotta go further back.

702
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:21.000
See that. That's the problem I'm having in my head

703
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:22.000
is the timelines.

704
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:27.280
Yeah, he lays out, let's play well, all right, don't

705
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:31.159
give you a hint. This artist still is around, still

706
00:35:31.199 --> 00:35:35.920
plays live. It's not but he was a guitarist in

707
00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:42.360
the early sixties before he had to play bass. Did

708
00:35:42.360 --> 00:35:46.119
you just say Queens is stone age? Yeah, they're not

709
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:47.800
from the sixties that.

710
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:48.519
They hang up on it.

711
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:51.440
I'm telling you That's the thing is like I I

712
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:56.000
hold weird knowledge, but like years, I don't hold that.

713
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:57.519
That is the one thing that's going to escape me.

714
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:00.159
I would tell you Rush is from the eighties if

715
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:00.920
I had to get.

716
00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:01.280
You know what I mean?

717
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:02.000
And I know it's not.

718
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:04.880
Russ is way older, but like you know what I mean,

719
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:07.000
I can't relate a band to a year.

720
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:13.480
All right. It's uh Paul McCartney.

721
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:18.880
Oh damn, Beagles thought Beatles but didn't go Now.

722
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:21.800
If you go listen Beatles now and just listen to

723
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:24.280
hear him play bass, he's playing it like a guitar.

724
00:36:24.960 --> 00:36:26.920
Dang. I would have never even went that far. That's

725
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:30.320
like a leaf versus me. Yeah, he plays bass.

726
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:32.880
But he's originally guitarist. Watch him, it's kind of the

727
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:34.880
same thing. He does play a lot like a guitar.

728
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:39.079
Yeah, because that's a habit already, you know. So I

729
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:41.480
think if you start at bass, it's different, but if

730
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:44.760
you go from guitar to bass, it's like you can't

731
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:48.079
help but bring the guitar element into it.

732
00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:49.679
Yeah, that's funny.

733
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:52.639
Yeah, I mean I've only been a bassist when I

734
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:56.239
when my music journey started by becoming friends with musicians

735
00:36:56.280 --> 00:36:59.000
and they liked me as a person and they were like,

736
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:00.840
you want to be in the band, And I was

737
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:02.159
like I would, man, but I don't know how to

738
00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:02.760
play an instrument.

739
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:04.400
And they're like, you sound like a basis. All right.

740
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:09.400
I got the same thing. I was a singer and

741
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:11.880
then a Jordan that with Jordan, and I'm not gonna have.

742
00:37:11.840 --> 00:37:15.079
Sing over Jordan Blake. Yeah, he's like, grab a bass,

743
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:17.800
yeah all right. I was doing keys for a second.

744
00:37:18.679 --> 00:37:21.039
So that that's where the music journey started for me.

745
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:21.280
Man.

746
00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:22.480
So that's what I've stuck with.

747
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:26.920
Well there you go. Well you guys kill it. Tell

748
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:29.760
everybody how they can reach out to you. Buy your merch.

749
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:31.519
They can't listen to my show unless say, buy your

750
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:35.519
merch and uh, you know anything else we haven't covered

751
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:36.280
that you want to know.

752
00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:39.719
I mean, thank you everybody who's listening. We are ourselves

753
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:42.920
among others. You can find us at ourselves among others

754
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:49.440
on everything TikTok, Facebook, Apple Music, Spotify, and Instagram seem

755
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:52.119
to be MySpace soon to be MySpace coming soon.

756
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:55.719
You know, I hope my profile is still there.

757
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:56.960
Profile is still there?

758
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.519
How wild would that be? Like they turned a lot

759
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.639
back on and it's like your same profile. I'd be

760
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.360
really curious to see what's on my fucking profile.

761
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:11.920
That's what I got it when I think justin Timberlake

762
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:14.599
bought my space for a minute, and so everybody was

763
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:18.119
going on and reactivating their profiles. But the one thing

764
00:38:18.159 --> 00:38:20.440
I heard everybody's feelings, they didn't back up your pictures,

765
00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:21.960
so all your pictures were gone.

766
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.360
Oh well yeah, so no fringiness.

767
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:28.360
Then maybe I wouldn't even know the email.

768
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:30.800
I'm sure it had something to down Park back in

769
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:35.119
two thousand and six, So oh yeah, I don't. I

770
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:36.480
don't remember my email.

771
00:38:36.199 --> 00:38:38.760
But I just thought of something too real quick before

772
00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:42.320
we end here, Like you meant you mentioned the band.

773
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:45.360
I'm thinking, what a cool tour name that would be

774
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:50.320
ourselves among us among others versus b That would be

775
00:38:50.360 --> 00:38:51.679
such a killer tour name.

776
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:56.119
Yeah, I don't want to tour those guys.

777
00:38:56.480 --> 00:39:00.199
I love that those guys are definitely the boys.

778
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:10.119
Just goes together. You know, you could tell I came up.

779
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:14.599
You can tell I came up with it too. I

780
00:39:14.719 --> 00:39:17.679
reviewed them recently, but I've been at so many festivals

781
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:20.199
I'll even remember which one it was at this point.

782
00:39:20.360 --> 00:39:22.760
Was probably Incarceration, But I can't.

783
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:25.679
Just played Incarnation and them. Did they play this walking

784
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:27.400
to Rockfield? Yeah?

785
00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:30.000
I did both. I probably I think I talked to

786
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:32.440
him and I've talked to him a few times, but yeah,

787
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:32.719
I did.

788
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:36.880
But those guys from top to bottom are just great

789
00:39:36.880 --> 00:39:37.519
people to talk to.

790
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:39.119
Yeah, so there we.

791
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:41.679
Go, that message on we we trust me that tour

792
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:45.639
will happen before we hang up any any sort of.

793
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:49.159
Don't that's just how you name it, just like that.

794
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:52.559
You know that would be me. It just goes together

795
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:56.920
like people. I'll bet you there's people that won't even

796
00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:00.199
figure out that the two band names are, like, I

797
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:03.360
wonder what that means.

798
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:10.320
We'll get out of the like wait a minute, but yeah.

799
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:12.599
If you're looking for merch, you can find it on

800
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:14.239
the link tree at our Instagram bio.

801
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:14.880
Uh.

802
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:17.000
If you're looking for limited edition merch, you gotta catch

803
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:19.840
us live. We try to do limited edition stuff just

804
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:24.199
for the live guys. So two different experiences. We appreciate

805
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:27.119
anybody who listens to a song. We respond to d

806
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:28.760
ms if you want to talk to us. If you

807
00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:31.400
want to hang out, you know, come to a show.

808
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:34.599
We're titan Fest. If you're local to the Central Valley,

809
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:38.000
you're playing Modesto. What's the dame for the one right

810
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:40.639
after a week out?

811
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:41.880
We suck right?

812
00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:48.360
You guys should play at have been in November. You

813
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:51.119
guys should play at I don't even know if it

814
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:53.840
exists anymore, and it's not a venue. But I used

815
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:57.360
to live in Brookdale, and you guys should play at

816
00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:00.599
the Brookdale Lodge. You know, the brook you know, but

817
00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:05.800
it's in the Sana Cruz Mountains. But it's like it's

818
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:10.199
that town where the Brookdale Lodge. To do that works there,

819
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:12.519
Like you see in the movies, changing the hat, he

820
00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:15.719
runs the lodge, he runs the restaurant, he's the police department,

821
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:21.039
he's the postmaster, he's the fire person, he's everybody. Like, yes,

822
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:24.320
that's all there is in that town or then. I

823
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:26.920
don't know about now, but all I know is then,

824
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.159
you know, all my friends living there all had sawed

825
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:32.920
off shotguns signed their house because you didn't walk on

826
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:37.639
their property for the obvious reasons back then. Yeah, you know,

827
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:41.880
like especially during harvest season. You know you didn't. You

828
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:44.440
didn't walk on property there except me. I'd go up

829
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:48.000
there during harvest and my friends would have like hefty

830
00:41:48.079 --> 00:41:51.320
garbage bags full, and they're like, hand me a baggy,

831
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:55.840
go ahead, fill it up, take your pick, the good

832
00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:58.000
old days before the government got involved.

833
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:02.079
Right, Yeah, you're trying to get us to go on

834
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:03.599
another rant again, aren't you know?

835
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:09.320
Right Well, you guys do rock, though, and you have

836
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:12.360
enough of a rant in your music, and that's what's important,

837
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.679
because music is the best therapy there is and the

838
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:19.599
best solution to all the bullshit we have in the world.

839
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:23.400
Right now, so hey, I'll say say how it was

840
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:25.320
told to me. Man, If my music can change one

841
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:28.800
person's life, that's all that matters. I'm already seated that expectation.

842
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:31.199
So now now we're just enjoying the ride.

843
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:34.159
So uh. This song coming out soon.

844
00:42:34.639 --> 00:42:36.599
No release date yet, but it will be within the

845
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:38.840
next month called make your Own Luck.

846
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:41.599
And if you would like to hear our new song Rusted.

847
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:43.639
Halo, please come and see us in November with the

848
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:45.639
mice and Men and that is the day we are

849
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:46.599
going to be dropping that song.

850
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:53.159
Nice. Well, you keep fucking rocking and thanks for giving

851
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:56.559
me a war inside inside this show.

852
00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:00.599
Great day, brother, Thank you so much for having us you.

853
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:02.920
Got thanks for being on the Adventures of Pipe Main,

854
00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:03.679
Thank you.

855
00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:09.639
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipemin on

856
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:13.079
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