April 9, 2026

Paul McCoy of 12 Stones Reveals New Single World So Cold feat. Lyric Noel – PipemanRadio Interview

Paul McCoy of 12 Stones Reveals New Single World So Cold feat. Lyric Noel – PipemanRadio Interview

12 Stones Release New Single "World So Cold" feat. Lyric Noel via Judge & Jury Records Accompanying the release is an official music video, directed by Michael Levine of Levine Pictures, that vividly brings the song’s message to life. The visual...

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12 Stones Release New Single "World So Cold" feat. Lyric Noel via Judge & Jury Records

Accompanying the release is an official music video, directed by Michael Levine of Levine Pictures, that vividly brings the song’s message to life. The visual narrative explores two contrasting sides of the main character. One side is consumed by anger and the other is weighed down by sadness and emotion.

Featuring Lyric Noel, “World So Cold” is a reignited version of the popular 12 Stones classic. Feeling that we had all lost our sense of humanity, Paul McCoy originally wrote the song in 2006 about the inconceivable tragedies of this world and, as he reflects now, the need for a song like this never truly went away. Almost 20 years later, this song is more relevant than ever.

The song is filled with candid lyrics, such as “What kind of world do we live in? // where love is divided by hate?” Heart-wrenching verses build up to explosive choruses, leaving behind a message that is certain to be remembered.

“'World So Cold' is a song I wrote about my view of the world. I wrote this song almost 20 years ago about how messed up the world seemed to me. I can honestly say that I don’t feel like it’s gotten any better over the last 20 years. I remember sitting in the lounge of the music studio messing around with an acoustic guitar while the TV was on in the background. I saw a news story about another person on a shooting rampage, and in that moment, I just started singing the melody that became 'World So Cold'. I realized that all humans can become a byproduct of their environments. The song is about believing in hope in hopeless times,” says McCoy.

Lyric Noel adds, “I was incredibly honored that out of all the singers out there, they chose me to be part of the re-release of ‘World So Cold.’ It’s such a powerful song that already carries so much emotion and history, so getting the chance to lend my voice to it meant a lot to me. Filming the music video was an amazing experience, and the visuals really bring the story and atmosphere of the song to life in a beautiful way. Being part of this new chapter of ‘World So Cold’ alongside 12 Stones is something I’m truly grateful for.”

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you your kind of world.

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This is pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man

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W four c Y Radio and I'm here with our

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next guest who has Oh they just released a new

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single and it is badass, So welcome to the show.

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Paul from twelve Stones. How are you.

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I'm doing awesome man, Thanks for having me taking the

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time with me.

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Oh, my pleasure, And I absolutely I was. Actually, you

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know a lot of times with interviews, I'll watch the

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video like right before the intern you to get myself

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in the zone and pumped up, and.

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It did do that for me.

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Nice.

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Nice the new video and the new version with Lyric

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nol it's just so badass.

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So tell us about how that happened.

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Yeah, we're very fortunate. Song World So Cold. Initially it

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was written in two thousand and six and it was

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on our anthem for the Underdog album. But strangely enough,

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it feels like it's sadly still relevant song lyrically in

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the state of the world that we live in, and

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so we started working with Judge and Jury Records, which

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is Howard Benson, the legendary producer Neil Sanderson from three

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Days Grace, they had their own record label, and they

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reached out to us about doing some songs together, and

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they brought up the idea of redoing World So Cold,

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and I just thought, what a cool thing to have

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a featured artist on there that could bring, you know,

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a new level of intensity to the song. And yeah,

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and that they recommended Lyric Noel, and she was just fantastic.

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It's really cool collaboration. Obviously, I have a pretty pretty

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solid track record with collaborations, so.

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Especially with the females, You're right, yeah, females.

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It seems to work all right.

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Right, And I just have to say that what I

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loved when I saw the press release about this, The

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first thing came my head is like, oh my god,

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I talk about this all the time. It's like, listen,

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I come from the eighties, where like the songs written

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in the eighties from the old school punk and metal bands.

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I was into they could be the same songs today

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and just change the names that are in the songs.

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And it is I'm gonna be brutally honest, it's fucking

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ridiculous like all these years later that we haven't changed

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a bit, you know, And it it just blows my mind.

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And then you have people coming out I won't mention

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who saying that entertainers music artists shouldn't have a voice,

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Like why has music always been It's always been a voice,

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you know. It's always a way to get those things

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out that really are bothering us in the world and

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sharing it with other people that's bothering them too.

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Exactly. I think we all as humans, we all face

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a lot of similar trials and tribulations that you know,

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on a daily basis, and none need to be silent.

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I mean, I know, for me, music is therapy. It's

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my way to write down all the things that are

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happening in the battle between my ears and you know,

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and I find that if anytime someone can relate to

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a song that I've written in any way, you know,

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it makes it all worth it for me to continue

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to do the thing I feel like I'm supposed to

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be doing here this on my short time on this

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little rock.

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Well, I I kind of agree, I totally agree, But

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I kind of think that the whole reason people like

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you are given the talent that you're given is so

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you can spread that positive message throughout the world. And

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you know, a lot of times people that aren't into

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certain genres of music, they think the message is bad.

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It's really if they listen to the lyrics, it's talking

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about what's bad, you know. And I think people get

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a few confused a lot of times. But you said therapy.

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You hit the key word for me, because the beauty

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of music is it's therapy for you, the artists, and

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it's also therapy for me, the person that's in the

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audience or the person listening. And you know, we all

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have those stories of songs that guys through stuff or

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what we relate to. And you know, I'll hear a

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certain lyric, I'm like, oh my god, that's so me,

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you know, right, and then you can totally relate to it.

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And what's great about is not even a judgmental way

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like there's other things in life. Words, you relate to things,

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but people are judging you or you're judging them. Music

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is to me the non judgmental zone, at least nowadays.

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It wasn't in the eighties, and thank god it's not like.

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That anymore, right, Yeah, exactly.

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You know, So, what was I want to know?

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Going deep and digging way back, what is it that

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started you on this musical journey, way back, way back.

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I was probably twelve thirteen years old. My mom and

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dad got me a classical acoustic guitar one year, and

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I just I love messing around on it and just

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figuring my way around the notes and kind of what

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worked and what didn't. And then some time went by

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and I believe I was fourteen years old. I was

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sitting in Spanish class. Buddy of mine let me borrow

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the brand new silver Chair Frog Stomp album and I start,

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you know, as we did in those days in the

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nineties and stuff. We would go digging through the you know,

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the booklets of the CDs and see who recorded it

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and dig up all the information. And then I found

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out that they were the same age as me at

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that time, and I was like, wait, hold on, why

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am I sitting in Spanish class and these these guys

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are out there making music, touring the world with their

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best buddies. And my entire life changed in that moment,

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because I up until that point, I thought I was

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going to be a professional soccer player and the music

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was a cool thing that I was trying to learn.

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But at that moment, I was like, oh no, I'm

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you know, taking a hard swing here and going to

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try to make music. And then I got our first

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record deal when I was nineteen, so about five years later,

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I somehow pulled off the dream.

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I love hearing stories like that because the part a

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story that the listeners don't hear, though, is what you

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do to achieve that dream. Like they think, oh, how lucky,

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or oh this or man is hard work.

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Uh listen.

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I played drums for nine years, sucked, I switched the guitar,

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sucked at that, sang thrash mellows sucked at that too.

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That's why I'm good at this. But I feel like it.

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If you suck at thrash metal vocals, then you might

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be actually pretty good. That's like a it might might

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actually be a you know, a backwards approach, you know.

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And you know the thing is is that the bands

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that I was friends with back then, which some of them.

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Got really really really really big, they were just so dedicated.

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Like Randy Rhodes, who was one of my idols, Like

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he played, he practiced for eight hours a day, and

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I remember being teenager, I'm like, I don't have eight

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hours a day to practice, you know that? And then

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you know, like I was at Metallica's first show ever

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and I look at them now, and you know, everybody

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thinks they were like this overnight success. No, it takes

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about twenty years to become an overnight success.

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You know.

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I was hanging out partying with them because only twenty

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five people were there at the Troubadour.

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When they're playing. But they were so dedicated.

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Like even the other bands in the thrash area that

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I was all friends with, they all knew Metallica had

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something special, and I think that special was why they're

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here today. Is that, Like listen, they blowney sandwiches with

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no bread and slept on the floor for ten years.

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You know, they did whatever it took and there was

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no other option. Like I'm also a motivational speaker, so

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I'm all about nor does succeed. You have to have

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nothing to fall back on. And I hear your story,

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I'm like, that's exactly what you did too.

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Yeah, we just swing for it. And a lot of

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people don't realize too, Like in the listener, they don't

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realize the struggles that happened to artists after they get

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signed or after they go on the road, Like it

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doesn't just impact the artists impact everyone in their family, children,

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loved ones, uh, you know, friends. You know, you realize

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that your entire life that you thought you had is

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happening somewhere else while you're out trying to pursue something

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and playing in bars and Topeka, Kansas on a Tuesday

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for three people, and you're just like, where's the value

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in this is? It is all the sacrifices that not

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only I made, but you know, kids and family members

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and every all the sacrifices that they're forced to make.

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Is it worth it? You know? And that's it's a

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hard it's a hard life to get up here and

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bury your soul on a stage in a room of

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strangers and even friends and family, you know, to to

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dig deep into your your heart and find where your

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lyrics are and really sing them with passion, and to

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be parent enough with people, and then to go and

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get you know, share five guys in a hotel room

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and you know, drawing straws for the cot and it's like, man,

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we're all adults. We all have you know, families and

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things like that. So I do know that it's not

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all puppies and rainbows. It's not all sunshine. It's it's

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a lot of hard work, a lot of dedication. And

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for us, if we're playing on a tour, like we

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go out with Powerman five thousand later this year, I

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think we get a thirty five minute set. The other

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twenty three and a half hours of the day are

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just brutal, you know, it's right driving, eating at truck stops,

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you know, not sleeping, and then that thirty five minutes

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that we get on stage, I'm like, this is the

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best day of my life. Like, this is what I

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this is what I want to do. And then as

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soon as it's over, we load the van back up

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and head to the next place to play the next

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thirty minutes and yep, you know, the scales don't always

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bounce themselves out.

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Well, it's funny you should bring that up because I

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talk about all the time that you know, why listeners

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should support artists and especially support them by buying their

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merch and stuff like that, because they think it's just

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all fun games and like I always talk about, when

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you're playing, that's the fun part. Everything else is the shit, yeah,

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like that, and the creating the music and the playing it.

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But they don't realize everything else that goes along with it,

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even doing stuff like this doing press. I always talk

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about it all the time, Like I go and do

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coverage at music festivals all over the US, UK, Europe,

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and I listen to other interviewers and I'm like, sometimes

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I'll listen to them and I'm like, man, if I

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was the artist, I'd be slitting my throat right now

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because they've probably heard that question like thirty times already

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in the past hour.

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does research and who's just like going through their typical

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top ten questions, you know, right, So it definitely it

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definitely it goes both ways though. I mean as many

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interviews as I've sat through that have had the generic,

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you know, top ten questions, I already have those answers.

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Like I've said it enough times where like it's it's

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just the easy off the top. So you know, when

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an interviewer is like this, we're having a good report

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and good conversation, it makes it a lot more realistic

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than you know, where did the band name come from?

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You know what? And it's like those kind of things

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where it's like, yeah, that information is already out there,

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you know what. I mean it's cool to get a

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fresh perspective and a fresh set of questions.

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Yeah, and you know what I think, but I havn't.

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By having conversations, you'll find out the stuff that nobody

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else gets out of them, because you know, music ours,

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they have a lot of passions and beliefs, and you

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know they want to talk about certain things, but maybe

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they don't have that opportunity. Like one of my most

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memorable interviews, and I've done like over three thousands of them,

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was with Lacy Stern and I asked her about the

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whole thing, what her and Sonny do for the teenagers

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and how she was suicidal as a teenager. And it

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was funny because it was a festival, and you know

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how it is. It's like, you know, you have a

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hard ten min's, a hard five minutes, hard fifteen minutes,

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and I'm pretty professional about that. And she was talking

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and her tour mager came over and did one of

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these and she shoot them away and then she talked

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for like another half an hour because she was so

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excited to talk about something that nobody asked her about,

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which I didn't know nobody asked her about, because we

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got off.

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And she gave me a big hunger. She's like, thanks

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for asking about that.

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Nobody asked, And I'm thinking myself, how does nobody ask

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about that? That's like probably one of her biggest passions

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besides music.

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of artists are our mental health advocates. We all come

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from the from the land of autism and creative thinking,

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and we don't really fit into a lot of mold.

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neurotypical type questions, you know, and then you just kind

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of become like numb to it in a sense where

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it's like you you mentioned something that someone's passionate about,

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They're like, oh, hey, all right now. Anyway, you know,

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they able to engage a lot with that. So I

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love I love that Lacy is like that. I'm that's

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that's really great to hear. I always love when other

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artists are finding something relevant to say using the platform

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that provided. You know, I think there's a lot of

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there's a lot of artists out there that are the sex, drugs,

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rock and roll, party music, you know, which is great.

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The world needs that one hundred percent. But I always

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love finding artists that try to have something valuable to present,

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to maybe share a little bit of their experience to

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to help somebody else's struggling. One of the biggest compliments

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that I get is when someone says, hey, man, I

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listening to a twelve sound song and it really got

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me through X, y Z whatever whatever. That is. It

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no matter how small the hurdle might seem, or how

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gigantic the mountain is to move, it's it makes me

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feel like I'm on the right path when something that

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I felt and been able to put into lyrics has

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helped somebody else in their life. And it's someone I

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don't know, you know, someone that yeah, that doesn't owe

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me anything. They don't owe me an explanation or anything.

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They just they found a song and related to it,

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and that gives me a lot of joy and motivation

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to continue.

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That's probably like the best thing of being an artist,

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is it when when you impact somebody like that because

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you changed their life forever and you didn't set out

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to it. I talk about that all the time, like

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artists don't set out to do these things, or they

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don't true artists don't set out to be a rock

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star they just want to get the stuff out of them,

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you know, and it is therapy for the artists, and

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so if it becomes therapy for the listener, that's just

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a super bonus.

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Yeah, exactly. I totally agree. I'm very big into being present,

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especially like our shows and stuff like I try to

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hang out watch every other band. I try to be

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available to talk to just anybody, because I'm still such

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a huge fan of music that I love it and

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I feel privileged to get this honor to be able

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to make music for a living. There is the other

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side of the coin, however, that sometimes it almost feels

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heavy to know that some people are reliant upon your

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words at times, like you don't maybe have the most

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powerful thing to say in this particular song or something.

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So it feels a little weighty at times to where

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you're like, I hope this translates to what I'm trying

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to convey.

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It's gotta be a lot of pressure too, when you

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write new songs when you have that in your head

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and it's like oh, instead of like when you're writing

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them when you're a kid in the beginning, where it's

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all about you, you're like, oh, well, how's it going

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to impact people. And I personally, I think the best

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artists I have the most impact. They do not, and

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they do think of it, of still how it affects them,

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and then their tribe will just naturally come to it.

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Yeah, I use I use eye a lot in our music.

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For me, I just it makes it, Uh, it makes

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it real to me. So I can. I can still

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play songs like the way I feel a song twenty

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five years ago, and every time we play it, I

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feel the same way about it. I feel the same

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intense emotional connection to those lyrics and and that that

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work of music that I don't I will never get

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sick of playing that song. You know, there are some

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songs I'm so important, Mike like less. But man, every

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time I see our set list, I'm thrilled. I'm like,

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all right, cool man, I get to this is the

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show we're bringing to them tonight. You know, depending on

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who we're playing with, you might have a a super heavy, upbeat,

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screaming in your face set, or we can turn around

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and like tomorrow night and the next night we've got

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two acoustic shows we're going to go play. So I

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like to be able to just find find what vibe

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fits the room and have at it.

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See that's the way it should be, And that is

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cool because like I always wonder how people that sing

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other people's songs. I'm not talking about covers, but when

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you have like pop artists that don't even write their

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own music, Like, how do you sing those songs without

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the emotion attached that whoever wrote it maybe it was

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their emotion. Like to me, music is like one of

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the most emotionally moving things, and I think to sing

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it you have to like believe what you're singing. Is

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kind of my viewpoint. It's kind of like I'm a

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motivational speaker. If I don't if I'm not walking my talk,

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I can't be talking right right.

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Nobody wants to take advice from somebody that's, you know,

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sad all the time, so it's like, right, you know,

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obviously obviously you're not doing too well, so maybe maybe

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I'll just go ask someone else, you know what I mean.

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But I think the same is true for music. It

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is it is a blessing to be able to do this,

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and I'm very fortunate that I have been able to

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write so many songs that I believe in with some

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of my best friends in the world over over the

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last twenty plus years, and and I try not to

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take any any moment for granted. My dad always says,

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every day above ground's a good day, So I try.

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I try to play every show like it's my last one,

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and I try to live every day as if it's

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the last one I got.

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I love that, and I am somebody that lives life

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to fullest. And it's so funny you said what you did,

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because when I was leaving my place to come to

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his studio today, in the elevator, somebody walks on, I'm like, hey,

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how's it going. He goes, I'm above ground. Yeah, And

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it is like, I think that's such It would be

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so helpful in this world right now, with everything that's

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going on in the world, I think we need to

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be focusing more on that. It's like, even with live music,

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I thought all the complaining would go away, and when

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COVID happened and it didn't take long at all for

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people to start bitching again. And I'm like, man, I

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don't give a shit if some kid is playing the

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recorder up on stage. I'm going to that live show man,

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because we may never have that ever.

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Again exactly. You know, every day, every day above ground,

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every every opportunity you get, make the best of it,

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because I don't want to go to my grave with regrets.

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I don't want to I don't want to have any

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opportunities on the table. And I'm already really scatterbrain. So

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my wife keeps wrangling me in and keeps me on

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the straight and narrow as far as like task to

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be completed and stuff like that. But uh, yeah, man,

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I just I'm very fortunate. And I know for a fact,

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everybody that's ever stepped on stage with me, they know

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that they're expected to give everything they got every single night,

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whether it's five or five thousand. That's kind of like

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we're saying, you've alway said. It's like it doesn't matter

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if we're playing to the bartender and the sound guy.

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Let's go. Let's go make them be like, hey, it

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was still a good show, you know what I mean.

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So absolutely, and sometimes these send up the best shows,

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right like you never know, like and you never know

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who that one of a handful of people could be

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that you know, just basically you change their life or

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they spread the word because you gave it your all

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to them, and they're not thinking like, oh, they're not

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doing it that great because there's only a few of

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us here right right.

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Yeah. See, I don't believe in phoning it in, you

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know what I mean, because I still believe in the lyrics.

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I'm saying so, and a lot of the a lot

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of my lyrics are introspected, a lot of them are

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like a song we have called save Yourself, and I

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always joking and say it our acoustic shows. I'm like,

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this is a song I wrote about myself from myself,

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you know. It's just like it's called save Yourself, and

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it's basically before I got sober. There was a night

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that I felt that I single handedly started the apocalypse,

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and I was just like, man, you gotta, you gotta

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get it together. And I remember just sitting in that

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hotel room looking in the mirror and being like, you're

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an idiot, man, you gotta you gotta, you gotta reel

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it in here. And so that song kind of just

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wrote itself in that moment. And so every time I

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sing that, I can sing it full with my full

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chest because I still want to look at that man

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in the mirror and be proud and not be like, man,

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I want to be able to come and say, man,

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look how far we've come. You know, did you ever

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think that when you were sitting in that hotel room

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in Memphis that you we're gonna one day be you know,

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trying to help other people survive, you know, sobriety and

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mental health issues and things like that. So it's you know,

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making the strides to try to bring a little positivity,

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not just through the music but just through everyday life.

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And see stories like that are what I love most

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because sometimes when we're in those mental states, which we

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can all be in, like you know, the biggest fallacy

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is that the most optimistic people never get bummed out

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or anything. That's not the case. We're all human. But

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when you're in it, you can only see the tree.

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You can't see beyond the tree to the forest, and

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you can't see where you're gonna be down the road.

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You're just so focused on that.

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So when I hear a story like yours, it just

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makes me feel good, Like it's like now you can

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look back. You know that moment in time, when you

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were in that moment in time was probably taking forever

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and now it's just a blip. In the history of

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your life.

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Yeah, a lot of times that uh that seemed life

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ending are I don't even remember anymore. It's like I've

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been able to just let go of those those things

444
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that were kind of holding me back. And I still

445
00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:25.799
obviously struggle every day with lots of things, but I'm

446
00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:28.440
able to realize that I'm smart enough to know I

447
00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:32.200
don't know anything, and I'm able to to open up

448
00:24:32.240 --> 00:24:35.119
and be receptive to to what the universe has to

449
00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:37.920
offer and and and what the people around me. And

450
00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:40.400
I try to surround myself with with the right people

451
00:24:40.440 --> 00:24:43.480
and the right enview and uh and if I can

452
00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:46.119
do that, then then I'm a happy man. I don't

453
00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:49.119
have to be the class clown, you know, dance dance,

454
00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:51.759
monkey dance, make everybody laugh at the party guy anymore.

455
00:24:51.799 --> 00:24:55.160
I can. I did my time, and I feel like

456
00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:58.359
I was pretty good at it. But uh, I feel

457
00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:01.359
like sobriety is where where I'm best suited.

458
00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:05.359
Well, you know what I find from a lot of

459
00:25:05.359 --> 00:25:10.359
people I've known in my life that you know, it

460
00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:15.759
took being you know, that drug addict, alcoholic that is

461
00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:20.160
out of control for them to appreciate this sobriety, Like

462
00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:24.720
and really appreciate what it's like with your head thinking clearly.

463
00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:27.440
Yeah. And then the other thing a lot of people

464
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:30.920
don't realize is like with sobriety, the things that you

465
00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:35.519
were trying to drown out and mask and cover up

466
00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:38.720
or whatever, they never go away. Now you just have

467
00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:40.920
to face it with it. Now you just have this

468
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:43.160
mountain in front of you with nothing to lean on,

469
00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:46.119
nothing to fall back on, nothing to be all right,

470
00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:48.839
We'll just take a little edge off here, like no,

471
00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:51.680
I'm I'm headfirst into a brick wall. And everything I

472
00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:54.559
do in my life and that's just how I'm wired.

473
00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:58.279
So when I do something, I do it all the

474
00:25:58.279 --> 00:26:01.400
way until I can't do it anymore. And uh, that

475
00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:04.480
was that was true for drinking and partying, and it

476
00:26:04.559 --> 00:26:08.079
was this. I became a way of life and a

477
00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:11.720
way of like everything I liked to do in life,

478
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:14.759
it involved being able to get wasted. So I used

479
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:17.759
to love golf, but no, I liked going day drinking

480
00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:22.000
with my friends right and hitting hitting balls into the trees.

481
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:24.319
I was never good at golf, but it was a

482
00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:27.200
good excuse to, you know, make a vodka drink it

483
00:26:27.319 --> 00:26:31.160
at eight am on tea box one so yeah, I

484
00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:34.279
like golf. I used to think I loved golf. I mean,

485
00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:36.759
I like it. I haven't played in years, but you

486
00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:39.920
know what I mean. So I have to relearn why

487
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:43.599
did I like these things previously? Like why did Why

488
00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:46.279
was this the path I was on? Is it because

489
00:26:46.319 --> 00:26:48.440
I could be like, well, I can always find a

490
00:26:48.480 --> 00:26:50.119
reason to party, you know what I mean. I'm like, well,

491
00:26:50.119 --> 00:26:52.599
it's Tuesday, man, you know it's taco Tuesday. We can

492
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:55.920
go get some Martarita's. And that's just the kickstarter. So

493
00:26:56.599 --> 00:26:59.400
you know, my brain is always looking for the excuse

494
00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:01.920
of like, oh, yeah, we can get It'll be fine.

495
00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:04.160
But I know, like I said, one hundred miles an

496
00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:07.200
hour into brick Wall, I'm never gonna have one drink.

497
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.200
I'm never gonna I'm never gonna just be like satisfied.

498
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:14.720
If there's something that I like that I enjoy that

499
00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:19.759
brings me even delusional happiness, I'm gonna I'm gonna run

500
00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:23.119
into it every time. So I just realized that again,

501
00:27:23.160 --> 00:27:25.200
I'm smart enough to know I don't know anything. So

502
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:27.519
I'm just gonna have to stay away from all the

503
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:29.720
things that I don't have control over.

504
00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:34.200
That's where you are smart. For sure, because there are

505
00:27:34.240 --> 00:27:36.960
so many people that have that attitude you were talking about,

506
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:41.880
you know, like even you know, smoking cigarettes. It's like,

507
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:46.440
I don't get Like I quit smoking. I had a

508
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:50.160
heart attack surfing and so I quit smoking. And I

509
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:54.440
didn't quit surfing though, but I quit smoking. But the

510
00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:58.799
thing is is like, I don't get people. There's some

511
00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:03.079
people that will like I could take a hit off

512
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:07.839
a cigarette, or I'll smoke one. I know, one hundred

513
00:28:07.839 --> 00:28:10.279
percent for a fact, if I took one hit off

514
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:13.640
of a cigarette, I'd be back to pack of Marlboro

515
00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:16.119
Reds every day within a day.

516
00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:18.920
Oh easy, Yeah, you know.

517
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:23.000
So it's like you can't I know, I can't take

518
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:28.440
that one drag because that will be the end, you know.

519
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:33.599
And I think that's the hardest thing people have to learn,

520
00:28:33.720 --> 00:28:36.319
I think when they're going through whatever it is they're

521
00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:37.000
going through.

522
00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:39.680
For yeah, I've had I've had friends in the past

523
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:43.279
that were right when I was getting sober, they'd be like, man,

524
00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:44.759
you don't have to have a drink, just come hang

525
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:46.400
out with this. We're at such and such bar. And

526
00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:49.559
I'm like, yeah, how miserable that would be for me

527
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:51.960
to know that I'm not going to be in a here,

528
00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:54.319
in a bar with a bunch of drunk people that

529
00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:58.559
I normally would be drunker than to deal with those people.

530
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:00.440
And now you want me to come and see here

531
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:02.720
and stare at the thing that they would make it

532
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:05.240
all feel better in the moment, but not be able

533
00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:07.160
to do it and still have to listen to you

534
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:10.759
drunkenly battle about stuff that don't care about, like no, man,

535
00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:11.839
I'm good.

536
00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.359
And when you're in that, you know, as a musician,

537
00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:19.720
you don't even realize how it's affecting your musicianship. Like

538
00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:22.319
one of my best friends who was the head engineer

539
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:23.440
at my station here.

540
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:26.720
He passed away a few years ago, but he was.

541
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:28.759
In a metal band in the eighties and then he

542
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:33.160
was in country rock duo and he used to I

543
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:34.880
used to I was just talking about this in the

544
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:36.400
last interview came up.

545
00:29:36.400 --> 00:29:38.160
But I had to go out.

546
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:40.799
I don't drink, but I go out with him pre

547
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:45.240
grant and pregaming because he would have you know, even

548
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:47.799
after being so comfortable and so good at for so

549
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:52.839
many years, he had stage fright every time because he

550
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:56.039
was used to drinking while he was performing. So we

551
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:58.680
would pregame and it would be funny. We had this

552
00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:01.400
joke about him. His name was Chad, and they would

553
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:04.519
have two sets and we would always say Chad is

554
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:07.799
the first set and Brad is the second set, because

555
00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.200
by time, by time the second set, Brad was in

556
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:18.640
full yeah, entertaining drunk boat. But it's like I always

557
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:21.920
had to babysit them a lot of times because like

558
00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:25.519
one example, one story, you'll laugh because I'm sure you've

559
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:29.839
seen a lot of this. His partner in crime. She

560
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:34.279
couldn't perform that night, her voice was gone. So I

561
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:36.559
was hanging out with him and I ended up having

562
00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:40.480
to go home. And I get home and she calls me.

563
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:46.039
She's like, Deanie, you need to go back. Chad is

564
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:50.559
standing on top of the speakers and he just sang

565
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:53.440
sweet Home Alabama four times in a row.

566
00:30:55.920 --> 00:31:00.920
Hey, you know, And I like, right, I show no Chad.

567
00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:04.119
And he was fun.

568
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.160
It was fun to be with, but like, you don't

569
00:31:07.240 --> 00:31:12.160
really realize that stuff is going on right there, and

570
00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:13.400
you think it's funny.

571
00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:19.559
Yeah, yeah, And I realized only recently, As sad as

572
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:24.559
it is to say that my amazing drunk experiences that

573
00:31:24.640 --> 00:31:27.319
I had, some of the times that I thought were

574
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:32.359
the most fun I've ever had were only fun for me, right.

575
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:35.119
I go back and hear everyone else's version of the

576
00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:39.960
same evenings and they're like, it was not enjoyable. You

577
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.839
were not fun, you know what it was like? Oh no,

578
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:44.519
but remember I did that thing? And they're like, yeah,

579
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:46.960
you thought it was hilarious. The rest of us were like, man,

580
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:49.759
ritt chili, it's four pm. What are you doing?

581
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:54.400
Right? And that's what we talk about right there. It's

582
00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:56.759
the perspective of the people around you.

583
00:31:57.240 --> 00:31:58.599
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

584
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:04.640
But now, wow, you're better than ever. And man, this

585
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:08.160
remake of this song is badass. Everybody has to check

586
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:12.319
it out. World so cold, and man, I can relate totally,

587
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:14.160
not just because of what's going on in the world,

588
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:16.440
but I live in South Florida and this place is

589
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:19.599
fucking cold, man. And I don't mean temperature wise, Okay,

590
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:22.079
d as hell with a bunch of cold ass people.

591
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:28.319
And I keep saying, man, we just need to stop

592
00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:31.359
palling for the oldest trick in the book, Divide and conquer, unite,

593
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:34.559
love each other, love each other for our differences. We

594
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:38.279
don't have to be exactly the same, and stop the arguing,

595
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:43.039
attacking over stupid shit that like, we shouldn't be arguing

596
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:45.799
about we should all just be caring about everybody else.

597
00:32:46.480 --> 00:32:53.599
Yeah, Will Ferrell said in the movie Tropic whatever I

598
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:56.240
forget the name of the basketball semipro. He was like,

599
00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:58.680
you know, el e, everybody, love everybody, you know what

600
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:01.920
I mean. So it's like this sound sounds cheesy and trivial,

601
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:07.240
but I realized that most people don't understand that nobody

602
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:10.799
knows anything. None of us know and we're all arguing

603
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:13.759
and nobody knows what they're talking about. And I don't

604
00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:20.640
mean and I'm not talking about left, right, up, down, black, white, green,

605
00:33:21.160 --> 00:33:23.640
It doesn't matter. No one knows anything. We all just

606
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:27.000
woke up on this floating rock in outer space. Maybe

607
00:33:27.079 --> 00:33:29.960
maybe maybe it's maybe it's real. I don't who knows.

608
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:33.640
But everybody is so confident with with their with their

609
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:36.440
like directives and their leadership ability that oh, I know

610
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:38.720
where the treasure is. It's this way, and it's like,

611
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:41.200
oh no, no, no, it's actually this way this way.

612
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:45.079
So until we realize that no one knows anything and

613
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:47.640
we're all just guessing our way through life, then then

614
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:50.160
we're just gonna be doomed to repeat the divide and

615
00:33:50.160 --> 00:33:54.160
conquer mentality. It's like, yeah, if we were all the same,

616
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:57.000
it would be it would be a different type of nightmare.

617
00:33:57.119 --> 00:34:00.559
It's never gonna just be like I would be boring, right,

618
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:04.920
I mean, it's just we are we then are the machine? Right,

619
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:08.480
we are then AI for all just carbing copies of

620
00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:11.960
each other and nothing, nothing's new and exciting. Then then

621
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:14.880
what are we working for? What does everybody wake up

622
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:16.199
for every day? You know what I mean?

623
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:21.079
It's just as I have a brother that like he

624
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:24.880
if somebody doesn't think the way he does, or uninformed

625
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:28.760
and uneducated, and I always say to him, or they

626
00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:31.920
grew up in different geographical location, or they had a

627
00:34:31.960 --> 00:34:36.159
different upbringing, or they had different experiences in life, or

628
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:40.079
ten million other variables that make them think differently than you.

629
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.559
Yeah, a sponge can only soak up the liquid that

630
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:45.760
it's in, you know what I mean. So like you're

631
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:48.719
totally you're a child and you're learning. You're gonna learn

632
00:34:48.760 --> 00:34:51.920
what you're what you're presented, whether it's in textbooks, your parents,

633
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.440
or family members, or your peers, whoever it is. You're

634
00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:58.840
a product of your environment, and not everybody is as

635
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:02.480
blessed to have the same up bringing environment and family structures.

636
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:06.800
So when you feel that someone's ignorant and uninformed, maybe

637
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:08.960
even if it is the case, it's not their fault

638
00:35:09.320 --> 00:35:11.599
and it's not and it's not your place to tell

639
00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:14.679
me that I'm uninformed when it comes to things like politics,

640
00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.519
I don't know anything. And I'm okay knowing that I

641
00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:19.800
don't know anything because I'm not a political guy. I'm

642
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.440
not one of these guys it's gonna blast you over

643
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.239
who you vote for. I mean to me, I'm just

644
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:28.239
like I man, I just want to go and live

645
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:30.360
my life today and I want to hope that everybody

646
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:33.400
around me is able to do the same. And you know,

647
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:36.519
I know it's wishful thinking, and we live in a

648
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:41.440
in a cold world ironically, you know a pun but uh,

649
00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:43.760
you know, I do. I do know that. It's like

650
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.280
I my goal every day to wake up is just

651
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:48.119
try to be a better version of myself, try to

652
00:35:48.159 --> 00:35:51.679
be a better human, you know, try to hold doors,

653
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:55.760
yes sir, yes, ma'am uh, and try to leave a

654
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:58.840
legacy of kindness and motivation.

655
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:03.400
Well, that's what makes you a human being, and that's

656
00:36:03.440 --> 00:36:06.559
what makes you, in my opinion, a great music artist too,

657
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.639
because I think that is a necessary component to be honest.

658
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:15.119
So I love what you've done for a long time

659
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:18.880
now and I can't wait to see more of it.

660
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:21.400
And everybody needs to check you out. Tell everybody how

661
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:24.079
they can reach you on your socials on the web,

662
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:27.159
get the new song, check out tour Day.

663
00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:28.239
It's all that good stuff.

664
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:32.280
Absolutely. Our website is twelve Stones dot com one two Stones,

665
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:36.320
and all of our socials are either twelve Stones or

666
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:40.079
twelve Stones Band. I believe TikTok is twelve Stones band.

667
00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:43.320
And we don't have a team of people. I don't

668
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:45.800
have a manager, I don't have a record label, I

669
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.079
don't have anything. So if you're reaching out to someone

670
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:51.760
on social media on one of the twelve Stones pages,

671
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:55.360
it's a ninety nine point four percent chance you'd be

672
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:59.719
speaking to me directly. So I handle all these social

673
00:36:59.719 --> 00:37:04.280
media accounts myself. So Merchan is available on the website.

674
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:06.400
All the tour dates are up there. Like I said,

675
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:08.400
we're about to go on the Summer of ninety nine

676
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:12.079
Creed Cruise in a little over a week now. It's

677
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:15.480
gonna be fantastic time. And then after that hitting the

678
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:18.280
road with power Men five thousand and makes my blood dance,

679
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:21.199
So really looking forward to those those two runs.

680
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.639
Absolutely. And those cruises are fun, aren't they?

681
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:27.119
They are awesome. My wife and I love cruising anyway.

682
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We do a lot of a lot of travel like that.

683
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We've played a couple of the other cruise Ship Rocked,

684
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we've played that one before. This is our first time

685
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on the Creed cruise and I'm stoked. It's gonna be

686
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a big family reunion. We got our buddies in Daughtry

687
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and Creed was one of the first bands to ever

688
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take us out in the early two thousands, so they're

689
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like big brothers to us. So yeah, I mean, it's

690
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just so many people on this cruise. It's gonna be

691
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a big, big old family reunion. I can't wait.

692
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I love it, and I love how aris are on

693
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those cruises because it's different than when you're doing like

694
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a festival like I did ship Rocked and the artists

695
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:03.280
weren't even eating and catering. They were eating out at

696
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:07.599
the buffet with everybody else because they were on vacation too,

697
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and now they was messing with them. Like because if

698
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:13.960
you're going on these cruises as like a patron. I

699
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:16.880
think you treat the artists a little differently because you

700
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:20.320
know you're there with them. They're gonna be there, you know,

701
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:23.159
it's not like you have this limited window and like

702
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I'm ship rocked. I don't know about the other cruises,

703
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but you know, every band does a meet and greet,

704
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so you have that opportunity too that you wouldn't have elsewhere.

705
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Yeah, we're we're all doing meet and greets. We're hosting

706
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:40.280
a cornhole tournament and I had some custom twelve Stones

707
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:43.559
cornhole bags made by this company called Nola Bags here

708
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:46.159
in New Orleans that we're gonna give away to the

709
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winners of the contest. So we're very accessible. I know

710
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:51.559
the other bands feel the same way, and a lot

711
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of the people that come on these cruises have the

712
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:57.960
understanding that we're all human beings and like if we're

713
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in the bathroom or if we're eating or something, and

714
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:03.039
you know, like that's maybe not the time for the

715
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:05.760
photo op. But most people are really cool about that,

716
00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:08.840
you know what I mean. But I'm hopefully speaking for

717
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:12.400
us for twelve Stones, we are very accessible. We'll be

718
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.079
at the buffet, we'll be in the fool hot tubs,

719
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.960
we'll be cheering on the other bands when we're not playing.

720
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So yeah, man, we're super excited to have the honor

721
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to be on this boat and we're going to take

722
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:26.199
full advantage of making as many new friends as we can.

723
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:29.639
Well, you keep doing it and I look forward to

724
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seeing a lot more of you. And thanks for being

725
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on the Adventures of Pipe Man.

726
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Man. It was my pleasure. Thank you so much.

727
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:35.679
You got it.

728
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What's up, everybody. This is Paul McCory from twelve Stones

729
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and you're listening to pipe Man on W four CY.

730
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Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man.

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I'm w for CUI Radio.