March 23, 2025

Pipeman Gives Insight to Becoming a Podcast Star

It’s Wednesday on Season 19, Episode 43 of The Adventures of Pipeman. Tune in at 1PM ET on 4/23/25 for the live show on W4CY Radio at www.w4cy.com. Subscribe to The Adventures of Pipeman at...

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Season 19

It’s Wednesday on Season 19, Episode 43 of The Adventures of Pipeman.

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Welcome to outdoors people with me zw guests and her

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Maya mar Zaki. Good evening. It's Wednesday, July twenty sixth,

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twenty twenty three. We've got a blistering ninety two degree

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fair and I actually think it was warmer than that,

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but that's what Siri told me, so I'm going with it.

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What is my computer doesn't see it? Ninety two degree

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fahrenheit fahrenheights. Let's try that again, fahrenheit thirty three degrees celsius.

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What do you have downe there?

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Some Paulo Brazil my own whoa it is warm in there? Hey, whoa?

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I'm impressive.

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Yeah, I had my bikini on all day. I just

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had it has changed for the show, but yeah, it

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is very hot. Oh that's nice, you too, thank you. Yeah,

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the neighbors love me. Yeah, we got done in Brazil.

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In the in Brazil, it is a lovely and warm

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day of winter with twenty four degrees cels shoes and

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for you guys the United States, seventh far degrees fahrenheit.

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You know, if you brought that up here, you would

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be everyone's hero right now. I mean that if you

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could bring seventy four degrees here where I mean, it

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doesn't mentally matter. Our guest is down there tonight is

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in Florida. In fact, our producer as well as in Florida.

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They've got a little weather. They've got a little hot

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weather going out check very entertaining guests tonight. People, you're

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gonna really love this guy, the true rock star. What

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do you call definition of rocks? You did something really

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interesting first this weekend? You did it like and this time?

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Tell us about that quickly.

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Yes, Oh my gosh, I can't stay the whole night

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talking about it, but I will try to make it easier. Yeah.

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So we call the digitals, and it means God's finger.

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It's a really high mountain, really like complicated six hours

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off hiking out all the way up and then more

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like five houray hours climb being a really complicated client.

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So I was exhausted the end of the day, but

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I was happy. We started far am in the morning

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and then we ended nine pm.

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Wow, that's crazy a full day. I mean, that's a

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full day. And good for you. Congratulations, I know that

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was that was a pretty big accomplishment, achievement. That's really awesome.

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Well excellent, thank you for sharing that with us. By

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the way, well, Tonight's episode of outdoors People is brought

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to you by rudebig Apaddle Sports providing time on the water.

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By Kemp ground Views making campaign.

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Easier, by the Loose Pack made in the USA since

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eighteen eighty two, and.

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By Jackson Kayak per Soon enjoy throw Petal Sports.

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Tonight's episode is So You Want to Be a Podcast

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Star with our special guest Dean Piper.

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Dan K.

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Piper aka the pipe Man is an influencer, international radio personality,

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master marketer, publicist, promoter, published author, and public speaker. Pipe

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Man is iHeart Talent's number two ranked podcaster on Apple

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and was recently invited as a celebrity talent on Cameo.

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Pipeman has been featured in news, on radio, and also

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in numerous newspapers, magazines, and broadcast television. Pipe Man is

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the owner and founder of Talkform Media and Pipeman Productions.

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Globally recognized as a top ranked, full service, eco friendly

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multimedia network and marketing firm, Talkform Media produces broadcasts and

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distributes live radio, streaming, TV, and podcasts through its network

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of radio and TV stations and podcast platforms. Talkform Media

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also maintains a strategic media partnership with iHeartRadio, Pandora, Spotify,

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Amazon Music, and Audible, as well as with multiple festival

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and event promoters. What's more, the radio stations owned and

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operated by talk for Media and then ranked number one,

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number two, and number three for multiple topics. And with that,

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welcome to the show, mister pipe Man. C. W.

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Wood Maya, how are you there?

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He is? I feel like Ed McMahon there for a second,

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you know, and.

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You're kind of looking like him.

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You know, I am. I've noticed that. It's like he

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can just maybe need a new mirror. You think that'll

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take care of it.

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I don't know, but It's funny you should mention that

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because I just got a call like two days ago

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from publishers clearing.

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Now, did you win anything or just a call?

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They just called to tell me I lost? Oh wow,

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at least what they called. Yeah, we didn't knock on

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your door because you lost.

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Yeah with the big what is that the billboard check

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or whatever they bring to your door? Did he really

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deliver those checks or was that just it was just

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for television right?

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That they could have been just as studio.

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You know, if you get this giant check it's like

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what six foot long or something like.

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When you go to these like award things where you

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win money, like beauty contests or something like that, they

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do the same thing. That's the advertising moment.

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Yeah, I mean that's the real check. I wouldn't think.

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That's the that's the promo so people can read all

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the zeros on the check.

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I mean trying to fit that through that little tube

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of the drive through, right, Yeah, not happening, man.

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So I just have to say, c W. How I

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just want to know how you're the rock star because

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how did you get somebody? How did you get somebody

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so gorgeous as my your co host, because right, she's

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the only reason I watched the show.

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Okay, there is a reason, right, ridiculous amounts of money

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and uh yeah.

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Actually I also watch the show because of rudabaga paddle

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sports or a cool place.

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Yea, yeah, yeah, did you before we get into this

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mine and I'm sorry, we don't mean to steal your

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thunder here, did you ever get a kayak? And we

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talked about kayaks several times. You ever get one? That's

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your name? Yeah? You, Oh, that's you.

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I said, I've had a kayak for years. I was

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just I got that thing and I sent it to

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you because it was rather funny that for one hundred

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and fifty dollars.

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No, that one, Yeah, I remember that one.

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No, I have an ocean kayak. I take it out

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sometimes and I just go way far out that I

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hope with storm doesn't come in because I coming.

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All kinds of paddle sports. You got surfboards and kayaks

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and all kinds of that's cool. Yeah, it's impressive, really impressive.

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All right. From this room we're in right now, there

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there are three paddle boards, a kayak, two surfboards, a bodyboard,

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and a skim board.

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Doesn't look but it doesn't look like you're in your room.

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Looks like you're out at the wharf right now that.

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I know, right, the wharf is my room. I'm homeless.

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How you think I store all these waters.

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Under the pier under cover.

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It's there. I lie down on the surfboard to sleep.

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If I want more comfort, it's in the kayak, you know,

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because I can, like, you know, get.

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A blow up. Kind it's probably comfortable, you.

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Know, it's not blow up. Yes, I do have one. Well,

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I have one blow up one that's resina.

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Are we talking about kayak still or what we.

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Right now?

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I don't know if it's an English problem, you know.

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You know kayaccent brendo English.

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I'm sorry, it didn't mean rupt you go right?

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You got kuta, yeah, because I don't know.

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Yeah, so we speak Portugos.

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Him.

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Altho abricado.

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Yeah, it is part because somebody part. And by the way,

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you are you owe me a visitor here in Brazil

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because we talk it over the phone, right And I'm

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here waiting for like six months already.

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I am, I am coming. I was in Bali and

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I had and that's when I was to come to you.

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After Bali and then what happened was I saw some

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like news if it wasn't really a good time to go,

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so I'm like, maybe I should wait.

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It is never a good time to come, but also

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it is always a good time, so don't bother. Just

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come any time.

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I'm definitely coming out absolutely. I'm just saying it here

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on the air so it's recorded. I lie, you can

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come after me, but you might want to come to

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my island over here too, because I'm surrounded by water.

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Yeah. Literally, just a nice place. I mean one mine's

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from there too, right, both of you guys.

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I live on Singer Island, which is this little Barrier Island.

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In fact, the reef in my backyard is second only

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to the Barrier reef in Australia. I kid you not.

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When I was driving home from an appointment earlier, I

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saw like hundreds of people out there, you know, snorkeling

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and checking everything out because there's one area where it's

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like just like roped off and it's always like tons

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of people storms.

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See when you people are cooking your asses off right

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there down there.

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Now, that's every day, are you kidding me? I mean, listen, okay,

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we have we have two seasons hot and hotter. It

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rarely gets to one hundred believe it or not, but

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it's always one hundred percent humidity. So it literally the

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other day I was listening to the weather and they're like,

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it's ninety four degrees, but it feels like it's one

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hundred and fourteen. I'm like, thank you for that. I

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didn't need to really, I know what you mean.

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I feel the same in here, So you are going

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to fuel home at here exactly.

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That's why, Okay, I love Costa Rica, I love Bali

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because I do feel at home. I go to these

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places and everybody's like, holy crap, is it hot.

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I'm like, yeah, that's that's cool. No big climate change

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for you, man, that's good.

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Well, there could be during the show because like many times, okay,

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so I have lost in the past three months, three

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chairs off of my balcony. How well, because I go

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out to dinner there's one these Florida storms. No, there's

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one of these Florida storms. And then I come back

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and I go out on the balcony to hang out

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because it's really no storm anywhere. I'm like, where's this chair?

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And then it turns out like I went outside in

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a tropical storm. I kid you not to find my chair.

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It was on it went over the building onto the

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other side, like seriously, it flew.

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And when that happens, When that happens, are you liable

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for damages to any one or anything?

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That you're sure? I am? That's I'm sure I am.

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That's why I don't claim ownership to the chair.

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Yeah, l down or something or what do you do?

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You have to bring them in that you know how

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many times I bring my furniture in the house, Okay,

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because I'll have storms every single day and it could

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be like for five minutes and do devastation. And the

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inner Coastal, which is right in the front yard over here, Okay,

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over the road, you know. And uh, and then I

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don't have it that bad down there, because I see

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the pictures and yeah, you got it made. Well, let's

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ask let's best mister pipe man some serious questions and

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let's do Before you do that, I.

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Have one more set before you do that, I have

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one more day to say it. Sure doesn't beat Arlington, though,

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You've never been here, and if you do, trust me,

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you'll you'll come once and you'll go I've seen that

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been they're done that.

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Do you wonder why I haven't come to visit you.

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I've been to where you are long ago.

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That's exactly what I said daily I think of this.

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I wonder why Dean has never shown up?

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Because I got there and I'm like, this Yankee Italian

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I would say that, and then you know and you

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So right, so let's let's get to serious shit orright, why,

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oh my gosh.

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Learned something today? Let's see if we can learn something. Kids.

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I'm a little bit lost right now because I supposed

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to ask you about podcasts, but I don't know if

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they're a top key anymore. But you know, let's try it.

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So first, think first, what does the term podcast actually mean?

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because seriously, though, because everybody throws around this word like

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it's something special, and all a podcast is is a recording.

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There's nothing fancy about it. It's a recording and that's

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not a bad thing. But they gave it this fancy

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name podcast. I actually like it. I think whoever thought

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up the name podcasts are brilliant because like that's what

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everybody says everywhere you go, you know, it's everywhere you go.

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Oh have you heard this podcast? Hey? Have you listened

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to outdoors people podcasts? Oh? My god, stuff like that.

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the the sixty four thousand. Don't think you're old enough

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for this team. But this sixty four dollars question.

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I say that, I say that in my sales pitches.

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People don't what Yeah, I say that in my sales

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pitches all the time. What is it?

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What does it really take? I mean, honestly, they have

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a successful you know, like a podcast. It's just gonna go,

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you know, bang through the roof. What does it take?

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Talk for media?

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Oh, there is a clever quick answer. Kids take notes.

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This is important stuff, and that is true. But what's

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also true is I mean listen. I say that jokingly,

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but you do need something done professionally, okay. You know,

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like even I look at UCW and you got the

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or Alex in the background, you know you're doing it

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the right way. And I'm saying that because you know,

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there's a lot of talk about DIY and you know

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there's there's a lot of things on the internet where

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you can here, buy this my course, or here watch

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my video, or and listen if you were doing brain surgery, okay,

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or if you needed brain surgery, would you rather have

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a brain surgeon or somebody that watched a YouTube video

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start scalping your head? You know what I mean, CW.

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So the thing is is that to me that because

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sound quality is important, you know, and the of just

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making it like a real engaging thing that people are

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gonna have fun with. The podcast should be fun and

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it's not fun if it's just some talking heads, okay.

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And that's number one. Number two, Promote, promote, promote, promote, promote.

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I could say that for the whole show. Okay. It's like, listen,

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I think you saw what happened today. I got tagged

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by you to be on this show here, okay, And

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the next thing, you know, I not only shared it

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on all my stories, but I also shared it on

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like fifteen Facebook pages and Instagram and everywhere I could. Why,

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because that's what you gotta do. You know, you gotta

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put it out there. It doesn't just come to you. Okay,

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people think, oh, I'm going to pick up a bike

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and I'm gonna talk and everybody's gonna love me, because

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it's the world we live in right now, you can

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it's true, right, Like, listen, listen. My daughter's boyfriend, God

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bless him. He's totally into Rubik's Cube. And in one

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month he got one hundred and sixty thousand followers on

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TikTok solving a Rubik's Cube. And I'm like, you gotta

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be kidding me. But but here's the key. Okay, there's

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a reason I'm bringing this up so you can have

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all these followers. And that's all well and good. But

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at the end of the day, he's not doing TikTok anymore.

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You know why.

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What's that?

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Well because that one hundred and sixty thousand followers didn't

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equate to any Oh yeah, yeah, so just because you

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have the followers. But now if somebody was professionally producing

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him and advising and helping to promote it more of

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what it was, and helping to promote it and helping

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to make it something that gets beyond that, you know,

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because you may have done something cool to get one

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hundred and sixty thousand followers, but now what you're going

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to follow that up with. It's it's kind of like

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i'll talk your language and my language, CW. It's kind

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of like you come out with this, you know, debut

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album that just kills it and goes to top of

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the charts. Well, that's sophomore and sophomore album. Well you

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got a chure ahead of you. Am I right to

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keep it going?

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Right?

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Yeah?

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And how does someone get started doing their own podcast?

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Well, I have the same answer as before. You can

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call talk for Media.

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Yeah, it's funny, and we're going to do a break

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here in a second, but I'm gonna mention this too.

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One of the things that I see with what you

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do is it validates you've become basically established. Well, now

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you've got you know, you've got a radio station and

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TV station and podcast out behind you, and you've got

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a professionally produced show as you know, as this show

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is by experts like yeah, I mean everything and it's designed.

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You got people that know what they're doing, they're experienced

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doing this stuff for you. I mean, I think that.

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And honestly, this this show one. I think I mentioned

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that to you very recently. This show would not be

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anything close to what it is if it weren't for you.

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So and I mean that sincerely. Yeah, you know, and

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and Dean do a fantastic job. I said. In fact,

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just earlier today, I said, Dean, we're going to change

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the album cover. We're going to change our promo photo

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because Maya and I had done some photo shoot when

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she was up here recently. And I don't have to

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worry about it. I know it's going to be done.

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You know.

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You asked me some questions and I said, well, here's

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what I like. But you know, I mean I have

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to try because you have great taste.

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By the way, I didn't tell you yet, but I

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decided to crop you out of the picture to make

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it more appeal.

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To Yeah, and I told you I expected that. Don't

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blame you, I actually, but yes.

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Before you go to commercial break, I do want to

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say something about one again as an example, because like

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you've done this for many years, not just with us,

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but you know in terrestrial radio before and you've been

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around the block, okay, and you said one day that

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he's the best engineer you've ever had. Now for somebody

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like you that knows how to engineer, who could probably

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do it, diy, you choose to pick somebody like us

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to produce it for you?

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Because why well if the first reason is this, and

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it's a practical reason, you know, you you divide your

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tension and your focus, you know. Now it's away from

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your it's half on your guest. It's it's you know,

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half a year whatever you're reading here or whatever. And

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I do read stuff. I make no secret, you know,

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there's no secret to that. But I actually believe that

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a guest or a show host owes it to his

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guest to be attentive and of course polite, courteous, but attentive.

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And I can't do that if I'm half focused on

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something else. Secondly, not just anybody can just go bam

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bam bam. You know, one is superb. In fact, I

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can't remember ever and ever make a mistake. I really can't.

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If he did it got passed.

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Well, that's the point right there. If somebody does make

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a mistake, just like in music, and you don't know

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about it.

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It's the carpenter's deal, you know. I mean, you cover

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your mistakes if you're a carpenter and nobody knows you

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made it, so you know that's that's right. And yeah,

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and and honestly wonderful personality. I really can't say enough

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about one. So you know, and you're stacking this Christmas one.

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Yet usually see Dublin Dye makes mistakes and then who

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covers us open?

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So yeah, Ali, on my end, I can tell you, yeah,

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we fail.

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Once, never any help us out. So we are going

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to a little break, but don't go away. We will

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so can.

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You tell us a little bit, but just a little

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bit more about your own show, Pipeman Radio, which airs

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at a A sorry h a m Eastern in you

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as seven days a week.

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Absolutely, And first I want to answer that last question.

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Just say, if anybody wants an information further outside this show,

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they can go talkfomedia dot com request info, or they

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can just call me at five six one five zero

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five four nine. That's good?

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just call eight six seven five three oh nine.

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Do you remember that it's not ringing a bell?

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I was like this yankee that was like, what is

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wrong with these people?

459
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:42.440
Oh well, we didn't have time for that.

460
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.960
That's another show, but a right, so let's talk about

461
00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:52.960
pipe Man O. Yeah. So the the general whole universe

462
00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:57.160
of the of my radio show slash podcast is pipe

463
00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:59.759
Man Radio. And that's how you can find me everywhere

464
00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:04.079
that that's my uh you know, any socials and just

465
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:06.680
look for pipe Man Radio P I P E M

466
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:10.839
A N R A d I O. But so under that,

467
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:13.319
I have a few shows. My live show is the

468
00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:18.119
Adventures of pipe Man. And that's so true because listen,

469
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:23.400
I've done that show live driving down the road in Texas.

470
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:28.640
It was so funny because I was on e and

471
00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:32.200
if anybody knows about driving through Texas, you can go

472
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:36.720
like a couple hundred miles before you see anything. And yeah,

473
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:39.319
and so I was driving through and literally I was

474
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:43.480
in the middle of nowhere. There was nothing, and I

475
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:45.960
was just saying on the radio like Okay, I'm gonna

476
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:49.599
stay live on the air just in case because I

477
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:51.720
don't think the pipe Man's gonna make it to the

478
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:56.720
gas station. Oh and I kind of like, I kid

479
00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.279
you not. I literally just rolled it. Finally got they're

480
00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.160
rolled into the gas station. And I was live on

481
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:04.519
the air the whole time, so.

482
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:07.559
You were just coasting out the car running.

483
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:11.519
Well, as soon as I got to it was like

484
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:13.640
as soon as I got into the driveway was one

485
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:16.480
of those things, and I just like rolled it right

486
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:16.799
up to.

487
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:20.039
The That's creepy. When it happens, You're like, oh my god,

488
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:25.000
yeah it is, you know, so good for you.

489
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:28.440
Yeah. And so there's been a lot of adventures in

490
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:31.720
the years of the pipe Man, even before radio. Like

491
00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:36.480
I got adventures from like zero years old, you know,

492
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:38.559
the day I was born. I have adventures.

493
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:42.559
And so the thing having adventures in the womb, were you.

494
00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:50.000
I sure hope not, because I mean because I don't know.

495
00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:53.160
I think that was hell. And I came to heaven

496
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:54.039
by coming.

497
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:57.200
On earth because you know, philosophical.

498
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:01.640
There you go. There you have for a moment.

499
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:02.440
I love it.

500
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:08.200
Ye yeah see. And so I've had other adventures, like

501
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:12.440
you know, when my dad's birthday was on the twenty fourth, okay,

502
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:18.880
and he's not around, But I could tell you one

503
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:20.799
story I would tell on the air that I would

504
00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:23.319
never tell in real life. That's the thing about my show.

505
00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:26.680
It's like this alter ego kicks in and all those

506
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:28.960
things are in your head that you would never say

507
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:30.799
in real life. They just come through the mic.

508
00:30:31.160 --> 00:30:33.960
Okay, like me, is that kind of therapy? Sort of

509
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:34.640
therapeutic for you?

510
00:30:34.680 --> 00:30:37.960
Though in some way like that it's just funny, I think.

511
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:41.039
I mean, I mean it's kind of like you're almost

512
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:45.359
your own therapist. Well, the microphone is your your vehicle

513
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:46.559
to get you, do you think they?

514
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:49.240
Well, that is true as a motivational speaker, because I'm

515
00:30:49.240 --> 00:30:52.000
a motivational speaker, which is a different personality than you

516
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:54.759
hear on the radio. And that is kind of therapy

517
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:57.000
because that's where it started. Like I've always been a

518
00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:01.759
very private person and then motivational speaking, I would tell

519
00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:06.160
stories that nobody in my world knew. And it's probably

520
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:12.279
because of a couple reasons. One is like, you don't

521
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:14.400
know the people you're telling it to, so it's all

522
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:20.079
these strangers, so it's kind of doesn't you know. Secondly,

523
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:24.200
because they're all relating to it, and so if you

524
00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:27.599
could use these things to help other people to get

525
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:31.799
through their things. That's what makes it worthwhile. It's you know,

526
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.200
it's not worthwhile to sit there and just bitch and

527
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:37.400
complain about stuff that's happened in your life or you know,

528
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.200
go wowis me to your friends and family, But if

529
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:44.599
you're telling an audience of people that has probably experienced

530
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:48.279
a lot of things similar because listen, as much crap

531
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:51.240
as we have in our life, there's somebody that has

532
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:54.799
more crap. Okay, you know that's the way I always

533
00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:57.799
look at it. There's somebody that has it worse, you know.

534
00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:01.440
And I have been homeless, sleeping on park benchres I've

535
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:05.680
been homeless twice actually, and i've and the second time

536
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:08.480
was shortly before starting this radio network, which is why

537
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:14.599
that's relevant. So basically, you know, the bottom line is

538
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:18.039
life is a bunch of adventures, whether it's the good

539
00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:21.359
things the bad things that you know, it's I always

540
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:23.519
looked at his adventures. There were things when I became

541
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:27.079
adult that family members were like, oh man, I can't

542
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:28.839
believe you turned out the way you did with all

543
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:30.400
you went through. I'm like, when you talk about like

544
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:32.480
I didn't even know it was bad until people told

545
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:37.079
me it was bad like the time that my you know,

546
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:40.240
and they'll never watch this, thank god. But when my

547
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:44.480
brothers and my stepmother had my dad locked up and

548
00:32:44.559 --> 00:32:48.240
he was he was roommates in the looney bin with

549
00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:54.000
Dennis Hopper and and my dad called me from the

550
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:57.880
looney bin and gave me a plan to come break

551
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.519
them out, which I did try to do. I was

552
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:03.640
sixteen years old and I did try to do it,

553
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:06.440
but I didn't. I did not succeed. Wow.

554
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:07.799
Wow.

555
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:13.559
So there's a story probably that nobody has ever got

556
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:16.519
on any show ever that you have gotten proven.

557
00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:18.799
I love that. I mean, I appreciate you doing the

558
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:21.119
exclusive here. I mean honestly, you know, and that's a

559
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:25.759
pretty good story. I honestly that was there.

560
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:28.200
Yeah, well that was an adventure. Like to this day.

561
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:30.599
I still have like the theme the Mission Impossible in

562
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.279
my head from that day because it was I did

563
00:33:33.400 --> 00:33:35.839
feel like I was like in Mission Impossible, but from

564
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:38.680
the TV Mission Impossible. The movies didn't come out yet,

565
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:41.000
you know, right.

566
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:44.319
Yeah, I love it how you.

567
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:47.000
Look at life, because I do agree. I don't think

568
00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:49.960
that we are alive to be happy or for look

569
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.519
for happy like people usually just say like, oh, I'm

570
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:54.680
looking for my happiness, Like I'm going to be happy.

571
00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:59.400
I think life it is far belived and experience and

572
00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:02.759
do what go to do what you ventury is and

573
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:06.799
leave your life, you know, experience. So that's really nice,

574
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:10.039
and that's nice that you share the real deal.

575
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:16.840
Yeah, that's right, that's right. And you know the fact

576
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:19.400
that about her is it? It is true. Like I

577
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:22.800
told my daughter years ago, she was in high school

578
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:28.920
and she was you know, she always wanted outside influences

579
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:31.880
to make her happy. Oh if I get this clothing,

580
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:34.440
I'll be happy. Oh if I get this, I'll be happy.

581
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.559
I always used to tell her. I'm like, happiness comes

582
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:40.280
from within, not without, because if you focus on the

583
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:44.800
without and the outside, you'll never ever, ever ever be happy.

584
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:48.840
You know. So you know it's all about it's all

585
00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:52.199
about your attitude towards thing and how you look at things.

586
00:34:52.280 --> 00:34:56.079
And you know, like zig Ziggler said, you know, you're

587
00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:59.000
not going to have a more positive life by being negative.

588
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.199
Oh that's I like that a lot. I like that

589
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:05.679
a lot. I didn't remember said that, but I really

590
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:07.320
like that. That makes perfect I love it.

591
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:11.559
Yes, all the answers are inside. It is not outside,

592
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:13.719
So look inside of you.

593
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:14.119
Right.

594
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:21.280
Well, we have some pictures and video. Oh yeah, that's

595
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:22.199
my favorite part.

596
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:28.559
So one I told you not to give the picture.

597
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:31.960
We paid him money for those.

598
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:39.760
Come on, I hope he used to hear off those pictures.

599
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:41.000
Right.

600
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:45.000
This is you doing your thing man on the show.

601
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:49.000
Right, That is me doing my thing right there, and

602
00:35:49.119 --> 00:35:49.880
there's the water.

603
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:51.800
You look great.

604
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:54.960
Yeah.

605
00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:57.280
I saw a picture without your beard, and you look

606
00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:00.199
like a totally different person without that beer. I think, right,

607
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.079
send the picture or video we've got. I think it's

608
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:02.480
got here.

609
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:05.840
Yeah, it's in the video. I know where it is.

610
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:07.079
That's exactly right.

611
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:09.480
I always look at when I look at stuff like that,

612
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:12.039
I'm like, man, I look weird without a beard, and

613
00:36:12.119 --> 00:36:14.519
I always think so, I don't think so. Well, here's

614
00:36:14.599 --> 00:36:18.559
the thing too, Like when I was young, younger, I

615
00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:22.880
start growing facial air, because even at thirty, people thought

616
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:26.199
I was like fifteen without facial air. I used to

617
00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:31.400
get ID for cigarettes at thirty eight years old. At

618
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:33.920
thirty eight years old, I got idd for cigarettes.

619
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:36.679
You know, somebody, you're going to be glad about that.

620
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:38.119
You're going to say, thank god.

621
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:41.639
Oh, I'm absolutely glad about it. I'm fifty six years old.

622
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:47.639
I skateboard, I surf, I rollerblade, ice skate I travel

623
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:51.920
the world and like listen, Balie was brutal with how

624
00:36:52.000 --> 00:36:54.280
much climbing and walking I had to do. Like to

625
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:56.519
get to every surf spot, you had to climb down

626
00:36:56.559 --> 00:36:57.960
the mountain and climb back up.

627
00:36:58.320 --> 00:36:59.840
Yeah, that's cool.

628
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:00.920
Yeah.

629
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:04.280
I do think makes you look like Ringo Star, especially

630
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:06.639
with the shades. I think there's a picture we did

631
00:37:06.679 --> 00:37:08.039
that on the intro picture.

632
00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:10.480
You know what I've gotten too, and especially if you

633
00:37:10.599 --> 00:37:13.599
look at like in my thirties and had long hair.

634
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:18.639
Dave Groll, I get a lot. I even I was

635
00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:22.480
doing a festival that Foo Fighters were doing and I

636
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:24.800
was doing radio press for it. So I was going

637
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:27.360
backstage and security thought I was Dave girl.

638
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:30.840
I can see that. I love that. And you didn't

639
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:31.559
correct them, did you?

640
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:36.039
No? I did. I thought it was funny. I love it.

641
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.960
Yeah, exactly, Brooks Tar.

642
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:44.760
Now there we go. This was last month in the

643
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:49.239
UK at the twentieth anniversary of the longest running, most

644
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:54.159
popular rock festival in the world called Download Festival, which

645
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:58.559
was originally Monsters of Rock. Oh. It's been around for

646
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:02.280
forty three years. It celebrated it's twentieth year anniversary as

647
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:07.199
Download Festival. This dude here I'm interviewing, Oh my god,

648
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:13.199
coolest dude ever. You need to follow him. He's mod Son,

649
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:16.880
m O ds U N. You gotta check out the

650
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:19.119
interview I did with him that I'm doing right here.

651
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:22.599
Go on to iHeartRadio or your favorite app, it doesn't matter,

652
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:25.800
it's everywhere. Go on the adventures of pipe Man or

653
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:28.960
Pipeman in the pit and find where I interview mod

654
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:33.039
Son at Download Festival because it was, first of all,

655
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:36.079
was one of the most entertaining interviews. But second of all,

656
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:43.199
this dude is he's it man because his whole thing

657
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:49.039
is about motivation, and so that combines my two passions motivation,

658
00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:56.079
positive thinking, empowerment with music. Yeah, no like that, you know,

659
00:38:56.280 --> 00:38:59.159
because listen, I'm a metal head. There's playing metal music

660
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.760
that's you know, could probably be if you looked at

661
00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:04.599
a certain way, depressing or make you angry or whatever.

662
00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:08.480
It's motivating to me. Actually that's a here's a little

663
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:14.440
fun fact about me. When I do speaking seminars, I

664
00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:19.559
literally place stuff real loud, like Slayer or something like

665
00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:22.880
that to get pumped up to do a motivational speech.

666
00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:23.480
Wow.

667
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:28.119
Yeah, so seeing there, there you go. But this dude

668
00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:31.800
was cool as can be. And everybody's got to fall

669
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:34.320
him because not only is he a great artist, but

670
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:36.719
because of his attitude towards life. If you fall him

671
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:39.679
on TikTok, he's got some cool tiktoks. It's just like

672
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:43.960
the most positive dude. And you guys do some research. Listeners,

673
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:48.280
the listeners and viewers have to do some research to

674
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:51.400
give you what I was just going to say. Figure

675
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:55.559
out what the acronym stands for mod Son m O

676
00:39:55.719 --> 00:40:00.880
D s U N mod son And it's a it's

677
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:03.880
an acronym. We're going to have to Yeah, and I

678
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:06.639
hope it's sun and not s O N And you know,

679
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:09.280
like at fifty six, sometimes you mix those things up.

680
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:11.119
That's what I am on my screen.

681
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:14.280
So my Jans sitting there, he can search on his

682
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.440
phone and correct us if I was wrong.

683
00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:19.679
That's what I got, m O D s UN. He

684
00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:21.920
just sent it to me. Yes, So I think that's

685
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:23.119
that's correct.

686
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:23.679
Dude.

687
00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:26.400
That's pretty cool. Next we get a little we got

688
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:27.440
a little mystery to solve.

689
00:40:27.559 --> 00:40:33.440
Now it's one of my favorite pictures. Okay. So this

690
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:36.199
is a festival I do every year, except this year

691
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:38.679
I didn't do it because they weren't doing the interviews there.

692
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:43.639
But and so like that's what I do. This is

693
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:45.480
Incarceration Festival.

694
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:46.039
Wow.

695
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:49.400
And the reason it's so great for me is Okay,

696
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:52.280
so you know, listen, I go on tour and I

697
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:54.880
do all these festivals. Like last year, because of COVID

698
00:40:55.000 --> 00:40:57.119
and making up for COVID, I was at a different

699
00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:02.280
festival every single weekend of twenty twenty. And so my

700
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:06.079
daughter said, every festival, she'll call me up and she'll

701
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:09.239
be like, are you excited? And I'm like, you know,

702
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:11.159
when you do it every weekend, I don't know if

703
00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:16.639
it excited is the word? Okay, It's more like do

704
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:19.400
I love it? Is it great? And like, im CW

705
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.360
you understand this. You know, it's like when you were playing,

706
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.360
you know, were you excited for every show? You know?

707
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:29.840
Maybe you were pumped up because you're playing, but yeah, exactly.

708
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:36.679
So this is right before I called her from the

709
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:40.519
first time I did this festival. And the reason that's

710
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:43.519
so important is because I called her as soon as

711
00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:48.039
I got there, and I'm like, now I'm excited. I'm

712
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:52.519
calling you from the prison yard of Shawshank Prison. Wow,

713
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:57.960
that's what's behind me. That's just Ohio State Reformatory, which

714
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:02.920
by the way, is haunted because tortureus stuff to prisoners

715
00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:06.360
in there. That is where shaw Shank Redemption was filmed.

716
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:10.320
And right behind what you can't see the picture because

717
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:16.199
it's a felony to have that picture, is another prison

718
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:19.039
because this person is shut down because all the bad

719
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:22.880
stuff that went down. But there's another working prison. It's

720
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:25.639
kind of cool. It's like reminds me of Johnny Cash

721
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:28.880
because while the festival is playing, these prisoners are out

722
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:31.480
in the yard and they're getting a free festival, and

723
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:36.119
I think that's cool as hell. And then so it's

724
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:39.400
pretty cool. You can do the tour and then you know,

725
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:42.239
and then they also have in the basement they have

726
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:46.800
like a it's a haunted thing called Blood Prison, but

727
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:49.119
it really is haunted down there. But they do like

728
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:52.719
the haunted house type thing there. But let me tell

729
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:55.639
you what the pipe man does. The pipe Man goes

730
00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:58.920
in the prison and he finds these like holes in

731
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:02.440
the wall the high and scares the crap out of

732
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:05.719
the people touring through the prison. Like I am some

733
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:07.000
ghost or something.

734
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:10.760
Does that not surprise me? I love it?

735
00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:14.360
And like one year I had my photographer with me.

736
00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:17.559
I'm like here, I gave her my phone. I'm like, here,

737
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:20.239
take video of me doing this so we can put

738
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:22.840
this on TikTok, like be scaring the crap out of

739
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:25.800
these people, you know. And then there's pictures of me

740
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:29.679
sitting on the toilet in the cell, you know, and

741
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.320
I think it's like red cell or something, and I'm

742
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:36.760
sitting on this toilet and me lying on the rusty

743
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:41.320
cot inside the cell because it's really bad shape in there,

744
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:44.719
you know, Like I'm sure it's you know, not not good.

745
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.320
I'm not sure which is worse, the ghosts or whatever,

746
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:53.719
diseases or you know, a little. But yeah, great, great

747
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:57.960
festival and that that picked me. That is totally my personality.

748
00:43:58.039 --> 00:43:59.840
With my hands up in the air like that doing

749
00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:02.519
it was like look at me, the pipe man is here.

750
00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:05.960
And by way, one last thing before we get to

751
00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:09.760
my book. Here. Yes, that early in the morning, I

752
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:12.119
was taking pictures in the prison. Then there was this

753
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:14.559
other dude taking pictures of prison. Well it turns out

754
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:16.960
he was one of the people in one of the

755
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:20.519
bands playing at the show that I interviewed later, and

756
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:24.800
he's like, hey, dude, can you take my picture of me?

757
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:27.159
And I'll take a picture of you. He goes, look

758
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:33.159
at us. We're fanboying over Shawshank Prison. So who said

759
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:35.440
life doesn't come with an owner's Manuel?

760
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:36.039
You know?

761
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:38.639
I always heard that when I was a kid. I'm

762
00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:41.440
sure you did c W two from like my grandparents.

763
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:44.639
Life doesn't come when an owner's Manuel. So I'm like,

764
00:44:44.760 --> 00:44:49.039
screw that crap. Life does come with owners manuel. Just

765
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:50.360
nobody wrote it yet.

766
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:53.960
So here's that's very cool that you did that, honestly.

767
00:44:54.079 --> 00:44:59.480
Yeah. And so basically it's a self help book that

768
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:06.599
is almost all my beliefs and how I lived my

769
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:11.360
life and how I went from a horrific It doesn't

770
00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:15.440
talk about it, I'm saying, but it's the coping skills

771
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:20.320
that I use to go from a horrific childhood and

772
00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:25.639
living on the streets to becoming a huge success in

773
00:45:26.280 --> 00:45:31.719
multiple industries at this point, and all having to do

774
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:36.400
with mindset and attitude and of course actions you have

775
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:39.119
to take, because, as Tony Robins says, you know you

776
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:42.679
have to take massive action. It's not just you can't

777
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:45.679
just show up to a seminar and exspect. Somebody pump

778
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:47.639
you up, and then the world's going to fall into

779
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:51.639
your lap. Listen, here's the thing. You know, everybody looks

780
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:54.840
at others and thinks it looks easy. It's never easy,

781
00:45:55.159 --> 00:45:57.760
no matter what level you're at. Okay, and you got

782
00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:00.599
to you know, the people that are the most successful

783
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:03.719
put the most into it. Okay, that's the bottom line.

784
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:06.559
And you know, I know we're getting close here too.

785
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:08.920
But the good thing is is you got the owner

786
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:11.400
of the network on that can say, well, if we

787
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:12.519
need to go a little longer.

788
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:17.000
I look, you know, it's funny because that it did

789
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:19.159
cross my mind. I go, all right, we're out of

790
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:19.679
time kids.

791
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:23.519
You know that. I know, right, So you know, basically

792
00:46:23.840 --> 00:46:26.000
it's an easy read too. That's why I did too,

793
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:29.320
because like I'm one of those people. I've read every

794
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:32.119
self helped book there is. But I'm not really a

795
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:35.400
fan of reading. I read more than most anybody does,

796
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:38.119
but not because I enjoy it, because I really kind

797
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:40.880
of don't, you know, Like I'm not one of those people,

798
00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:42.679
Oh I want to sit with a good book, Like

799
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:46.079
fiction books are not my thing. I am all about

800
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:50.199
nonfiction if it's something and I'm a big believer if

801
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:52.000
you read a whole book, I don't care. If it's

802
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.440
a thousand page book and you only got one thing

803
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:57.599
out of it, it was worth it because that one

804
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:01.519
thing can change your life, Okay, And that is the

805
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:05.320
key point. Is we're living in a world right now

806
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:08.480
where things are so negative and polarized, and people are

807
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:11.320
attacking and angry and this and that, and you know what,

808
00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:14.079
we need to just throw that all away. You know,

809
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:18.119
all these people that are making us like this, they're

810
00:47:18.119 --> 00:47:20.679
all on the same team, and they're not. It ain't

811
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:25.079
my team. My team is we're all one united world.

812
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:29.199
We're one race, the human race, and let us all

813
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:34.159
be supporting each other, pumping each other up, and all

814
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.400
have this attitude of mindset that anything we want to

815
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:40.079
have this lifetime, we can have it, and we can

816
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:42.880
have it today. There's no reason to wait till next year,

817
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:46.039
next ten years. You might not be here as somebody

818
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:48.960
that had two heart attacks surfing and I still surf.

819
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:53.079
I might not wake up tomorrow. So live life to

820
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:54.880
the fullest today. And there's my book.

821
00:47:56.920 --> 00:48:01.199
You have to ask you this, why would you define

822
00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:05.599
I mean? Is your biggest success been something you've achieved

823
00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:09.559
in business or or is it something maybe just give

824
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:15.400
us small little in a nutshell, what's been your biggest success?

825
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:18.119
Would you say the biggest success is I'm still here?

826
00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:20.880
What does that mean? Yeah, it's not because of things

827
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:23.519
that have happened or what have you. It's because my

828
00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:31.320
biggest success is my outlook on life, because otherwise I

829
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:32.079
might not.

830
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:36.239
Be here because you could have given up, could have given.

831
00:48:36.119 --> 00:48:40.480
Up or many or made things a lot worse. You know,

832
00:48:41.480 --> 00:48:43.519
we all have choices. That's a big thing with me.

833
00:48:43.639 --> 00:48:46.800
We all have choices. People think they don't have choices. Well,

834
00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:50.119
they may be crappy choices, but you still have a choice.

835
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:53.480
It could be two crappy choices, but there's still a choice.

836
00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:56.519
And those roads that we picked to go down, well

837
00:48:56.559 --> 00:48:58.280
we have to live with those roads, but we can

838
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:01.280
always check off those roads to go somewhere else. My

839
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:05.800
dad always said, make a decision. If it's wrong, change it.

840
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:12.000
Yeah, yes, that's nice. My mom is to just tell

841
00:49:12.079 --> 00:49:18.559
me that too. Anything is forever. You can change everything

842
00:49:18.679 --> 00:49:22.039
in any point so wrong decision, okay, run away for

843
00:49:22.159 --> 00:49:26.119
that and do something else. Well, thanks for thank you

844
00:49:26.239 --> 00:49:30.679
for sharing and where can people find you and contact

845
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:35.360
Pipeman Radio and also to get InTouch with you about

846
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:37.400
starting that old podcast.

847
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:40.639
Okay, So first of all, they can't really find me

848
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:43.480
because I always check in the places after I've left,

849
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:50.280
and you never know where I am. Even my kids

850
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:52.679
sometimes will text me if you're like, Dad, where in

851
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:57.599
the world are you right now? But I love it.

852
00:49:58.079 --> 00:50:03.320
Wh Wait, you were just here yesterday? How are you there?

853
00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:10.519
But yeah, it was yesterday, that's right. Listen, I'm the type. Okay,

854
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:14.559
I just did it recently. You know. Let me make

855
00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:17.039
a longer layover so I can check out this town.

856
00:50:17.119 --> 00:50:19.519
So I was in the UK doing download and on

857
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:24.039
the way back, I made a twelve hour layover in

858
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:26.599
Istanbul so I could just check out the city. So

859
00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:29.039
I went, got off the plane, checked out the city,

860
00:50:29.199 --> 00:50:32.039
came back and flew home. You know. So like that's

861
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:36.159
how I roll. But you can follow pipe Man Radio anywhere.

862
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:39.519
Pipe Man I'm on everything. I'm even on the social

863
00:50:39.599 --> 00:50:42.199
media sites that don't exist anymore. Like you can find

864
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:44.039
me on my Space. I can tell you I didn't

865
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:47.239
take it down and I think it's still I'm actually

866
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:50.519
posting there or something. And if you want to get

867
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:54.639
information about starting your own podcast, radio show, TV show.

868
00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:57.000
I think the best bet is that we have a

869
00:50:57.079 --> 00:50:59.920
personal conversation. I know that sounds weird in two thousand

870
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:05.360
twenty three, but you know, hey, but seriously, it's not.

871
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:07.400
I don't believe in cookie car. I used to be

872
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:09.800
on the other side of this fence. I was. I

873
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:12.239
was a host, So it's on the other side of fence.

874
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:17.519
And basically, you can do whatever you put your mind to,

875
00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:20.239
and you can call me at five six one five

876
00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:23.599
zero six four zero three one, or you could go

877
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:27.320
talkform media dot com and request information there on our

878
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:31.079
contact page. We'll have a conversation, we'll customize something to

879
00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:34.119
fit your needs, and you too can be like the

880
00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:34.599
pipe man.

881
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:37.360
Well, before we close this show out, you know, I

882
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:39.920
just have to say, I really think this is just

883
00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:43.000
me now consider you know, maybe because I'm an old dude,

884
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:45.880
but I really think it's cool that people can call

885
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:47.480
and talk to the.

886
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:51.039
Owner a human man. Can you believe that a human being?

887
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:52.360
And you get a phone number. A lot of places

888
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:54.519
there is no phone number. You can't even call these people.

889
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:58.320
I know this from believe me. You get a phone

890
00:51:58.400 --> 00:52:00.840
number and you get to talk to the man in church,

891
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:05.159
the boss. That's right, and that's pretty damn impressive. So yeah, well, Dean, listen,

892
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:06.639
we want to thank you for being our guest here

893
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:09.880
on Outdoors People this evening. Always a pleasure chatting with you,

894
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:11.599
and it was a pleasure having you on the show

895
00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:12.320
this evening with us.

896
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:14.639
I want to thank you, we even more both of

897
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:17.440
you for honoring me with bringing me on your show,

898
00:52:17.519 --> 00:52:19.960
because like most people might not want me on their show,

899
00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:24.239
but listen, I am totally honored that you asked me

900
00:52:24.360 --> 00:52:25.760
to come on. One hundred percent.

901
00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:28.599
Yeah, well I appreciate that. I appreciate that I would

902
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:31.400
just say I would just throw a deliverance is at

903
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:33.280
them and they don't know nothing.

904
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:39.000
It was kind of maybe I should have had a

905
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:41.159
script because it was kind of hard to concentrate with

906
00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:44.199
you having a co host like that. There we're on

907
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:44.679
the show.

908
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:48.000
I love it. There you go my backdoor.

909
00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:50.159
Thank you.

910
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:52.639
We bring it. We bring it right back to rond

911
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:54.159
circle the beginning the group.

912
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:59.079
Yeah, it's a full circle. That's why we're one taking

913
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:01.960
me out of screen when you are talking, and then

914
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:04.480
you can see yourself and focus on the answers.

915
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:06.400
That's why we do.

916
00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:09.239
That really comes down to Brazil and you spend a

917
00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:12.199
few days with He's going to be a blast. You're lovely.

918
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:14.280
I may never leave, all.

919
00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:18.239
Right, probably, yes, Cub did not want to leave.

920
00:53:19.039 --> 00:53:22.400
No, No, it was I was ready to stay. I'm

921
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:23.599
coming back, you know. Yeah.

922
00:53:25.440 --> 00:53:29.159
Well was a pleasure having you here. Thank you very

923
00:53:29.239 --> 00:53:33.239
much for your time, and I wish we had more time,

924
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:37.760
but we don't, so thank you very much. And we'd

925
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:41.039
also like to thank each of our sponsors for bringing

926
00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:46.360
you tonight's show, Rudabaga, Patish Ports, Campground Views Thatlluth Peck

927
00:53:46.920 --> 00:53:48.599
and Jackson Kayak.

928
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:51.280
Be sure to tune in for next week's episode What's

929
00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:56.960
going On in Canada with our special call blog with

930
00:53:57.039 --> 00:53:59.519
byam Marzaki. This is c W you get saying thanks

931
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:01.960
for tuning, Get into Outdoors people see you next week

932
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