Pipeman Radio Discusses The Nocturnal Affair Return to Europe

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0:41 Menother owns a resulting over last the story. You'll hear it up, crack it. Up from tire of the Rotto. It's the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm excited about our next guests because they're like doing some dates with some of the coolest people in metal and hard rock. Man that I'm very excited about. So let's welcome to show Brendan from Nocturnal Affair, The Nocturnal Affair. How are you so you're returning to Europe. I just got back from Europe and I'd like to go with you with us.

1:28 Let's go can make it a party. I know right, we're going back to the UK for the third time, but this is our first time to mainland Europe. Nice and so question you might know why I answer this though? Do you prefer the UK or Europe as far as playing in audiences or is it even. Oh well, like I said, this is this is our first time in mainland. Oh well, that's it's your first time in Europe. So we'll have to find that out after the fact. Then I honestly love the UK. I wish the arrest of America was as passionate about concerts as the people in the UK are. Now I'm not saying people are not passionate in America. People are, but people are passionate for it differently, right, Yeah, there's not a lot of extreme excitement for openers these days. You go out and you see people like if they don't know who you are, they're kinds just doing the like yeah, let's see who this band is.

2:29 And I do a lot of festivals and there's people that complain if like their favorite brand dropped out of the festival, like that's the only reason I was going to the festival, Like that's not why you go to a festival. Good in a concert then, yeah, But with what we found with the UK is not at all. Does it doesn't matter who's playing, if they spent thirty quid for that ticket, they're gonna show up thirty minutes before before door. The door's open, the place is gonna fill up and everybody they're gonna be drunk by the time the first band is on. And that's how worked with us. Man it was, and they're supportive. They buy merch. Yeah, don't ask how the tour is going. They bring you food and water and stuf. It's it's like a whole different culture out there.

3:12 Oh, no doubt, no doubt. I just got back from down Download and it's like, I love it there. And when the publicists I deal with a lot, She's like, you should really move here because you could do a lot all the festivals. And I if it weren't for the bipolar weather, I probably would because the people there and like, I just love it there, the weather, even the. House sound guy in every venue for one of the tours. We used a house sound guy for our first run with Chris Barris last year and back in April, I believe, and I was like, are we sure we're using house sound guys? Because in America you use the house sound guy.

3:55 They're like, great, another touring band, whatever here, can you hear yourselves smoke? You know? And then something goes wrong, you can't find them. But in the UK, there it's like an extreme passion. It's a career that people take very seriously. So we were in good hands no matter where we went. Well, you know, and I even find it from the press end because you know, I'm doing media coverage and it's so welcoming when I do, like bloodstock or download. In the UK, it's like and they even say straight out like I thank them for certain things and they're like, hey, without you, we don't have a festival. And that is definitely not the attitude in the United States. Wow. Yeah, that's talk about respect. That's amazing, right, you know, it preats you like like your person out there, you know what I mean. It's not like, yeah, we we had some McDonald's for lunch, so we left you a few half cheeseburgers in the green room. By the way, the green rooms put a potty out back right right.

4:54 Oh man. Especially I'm in South Florida and you know the place I least like covering shows is in South Florida because oh yeah, because like you're talking about how the sound guys are, well, here the venues they have like one guy he the buck stops with him at the door. I literally one time had my credentials on me. I just got done interviewing a band and uh, I had to actually call the band to come off the tour bus to tell him, yes, let me in.

5:39 It's like people that take their jobs away too seriously, some people no doubt sound guy or stage manager and they act like they're the fucking dictator of the venue. It's like it's it's hilarious, well there, like, yeah, what are you gonna do? And whereas to your point in the UK, like everybody is a cog in the wheel and all respect. It doesn't matter who it is, like all together, everybody respects to each other. And then it makes it easy on an artist like you, because there's nothing worse than being an artist and having a hard time when you're doing load in sound check, because that's where your mindset needs to be good before you perform, you know.

6:24 And I've noticed the difference, especially playing various cities, you know, like LA and New York and various. Now, don't get me wrong, we played La a couple times recently. We actually we went back to the Whiskey twice. We went there with a gentleman named Jagarbonham, which is Jason Bone. Yeah, I've interviewed him. Actually, he's so cool. And we went back with Fozzie and my sound experience at the Whiskey of all places, because people warn you about the whiskey, They're like, all right, this is a whiskey day. It's a throw and go. It's gonna be a nightmare. That's how the whiskey works. We went, I immediately made friends with the sound guy. He knows a lot of close friends in the life and he you know who's he's toured with in various other bands. I'm not gonna name drop, but once we made that connection, he was just immediately extremely accommodating, really took care of us, really gave us that the same feeling that I get when we're in the UK. But I've noticed in America a lot of the time it's who the fuck do you think you are? But the right hey, And in the UK they go, hey, man, you're gonna be somebody like congratulations, like keep going, this is great. It's such a different view on things.

7:35 And the people love new bands, they love new bands and and like and you're right, I'm type of person if I go to a concert festival, whether I'm working or not, I'm in there before the first band plays and I'm out after the final band like And I hate when I go with people and they want to sit out in the parking lot, Like, I didn't come here to sit in the parking lot. I want to go see the bands. We'll wait till the headliner comes. Yep, bye crazy. You know it's like to me, it's the whole experience. I'm a little guilty of this at my old hometown venue. But for two reasons right ay, when I met shows, I like to smoke cigars. So when it's not like the main act, I still like to hear the band. Now, I was very spoiled for a long time out here because we have a place called Vamped that recently closed counts Vamp. Did you ever get ever come to Vegas and check it out? I have.

8:29 I don't think I've been to that venue. I've been to Vegas a lot. So their sound guy was this gentleman named Pat probably one of the best sound guys we've ever worked with, and whoever picks him up next is going to be extremely lucky. He really cared about his craft, and so new bands would come out and they'd open for whoever you know we were seeing that night, and we had the ability to get onto the patio away from you know, where the show's actually happening. It's still have the full show coming through the speakers, right, Smoke your cigar, enjoy a couple drinks, talk to some friends. So I get that. You know, in situations like that, you're able to enjoy the new music, but you know, you want to do your thing, you want to socialize. But it really is a different monster in the UK, it really is.

9:12 Oh no, they take that crep seriously and both the UK and Europe. When I look at these campers, I'm like, now they take it seriously because the campers that are going to these festivals, they walk for like miles with all their camping gear, you know, and smile on their face and they're dedicated, and it's just it's kind of amazing to see. I'm a firm believer that everybody should like tour the world and see how other people live. One hundred percent. It puts things into perspective and it humbles you and it shows you that people can be good everywhere. It's it's easy to be kind, you know.

9:56 And we went to Wales for our first time this last run through the UK, and we played Man, I'm trying to remember the name of the festival. It was an amazing festival and they had us up first band of the day in a tent, you know, at eleven am, barely a sound check. We're exhausted, and I mean there was frost on the grass outside there was It was so cold over there that the grass looked gray from all of the ice that was attached to right, and it was still. It was beautiful. It was like we were playing in the Shire, you know what I mean, the Lord of the Rings. And when I tell you, the tent filled up at eleven am the minute they opened those doors. People didn't know who we were. There were some fans that had seen us with Chris Bears, who we were touring with and he ended up playing later in the evening. But the place stacked up and they were just like, all right, let's go rock out, guys, we're here for you. Most of them were like three beers in at eleven am and it was right, an absolute blast, so supportive.

11:01 And like in the European it like goes all night long. People are just I don't even think they sleep a whole weekend, that's all. But here's what's wild. So I did I do Hellfest. But the year after COVID they had three hundred and sixty bands and I was talking to a bunch of bands and they said not one band went off late, and every band their soundcheck was perfect in five minutes. And they weren't exaggerating. It was like, and they're like, man, that makes it so easy. Then I could just go back and chill out before the set. It was like, can you imagine that five minutes and your sounds perfect from not your sound people.

11:45 That's people that love what they do. Mm hmm. Look you know what we actually we experienced that firsthand with a sound guy we started working with in the UK named Arnie, and he our first day with him, it was it was I'm I mean, obviously it takes a lot to plug everything in and do this, this is and that. But the moment we got everything dialed in, like you know, sound coming out of where it was supposed to, it took him five minutes. It was just you go, you in your ears, all right, let's run a song. See what sounds and like the first song run, I was like, I'm hearing better than most shows I've ever played. So it's just it's it really is when when people don't see it, it's just like a chore, like, Okay, this is what I'm doing for money. It really shows.

12:30 Oh, my head engineer at the station, he passed away a few years back, but he was one of my best friends and he was like that when I first started the network eighteen years ago. We would sit there in the studio and he's like, do you hear that? I'm like no, He goes, we need to fix that. I'm like, okay, you know, like he would hear shit that nobody else heard. But what was cool about it is there are other people that would hear it and make a determination or you know, I see it a lot in my industry. You hear some of these podcasters that they watch a YouTube video and they decide they can just start podcasts, and then their sound quality is so bad that I don't care what you're saying now I can't and listening to it, you know, it's.

13:16 Like a cell phone and a red solo cup and they're like, yeah, so my favorite thing is this and then what do you guys think? Right? Totally? So, Like, it is so important when you're the artists. Even if we don't notice on the audience, it bothers you if that sound is not perfect, because you know you want to perfect your craft it. It gives you an added sense of confidence too, even if you know you're gonna bring it to the table, even though if you know you're gonna melt faces and rock the crowd. When you have that confidence from everybody is having a good time, everything is in check. It's all just like you said, it's all a cog in the bigger machine. Yeah, it almost just the show just plays itself.

14:06 It's great and you don't have to worry about crap at all because you're trusting it in somebody else's hands that knows what they're doing, but more importantly, cares. Yep. I think that's the key. It goes from surfing the waves, you know, instead of trying to endure the storm of oh god, what's going to happen next? You know what I mean? Like, it's no doubt and this is the type of industry. I think, if you're not having fun, this is the wrong industry. It should be fun. Like it's a fun industry. Maybe not for everybody, but it should be for anybody that's in it completely. I mean, this is this industry you are in charge of being the soundtrack to your consumer's life. Yes, everybody sees their life like a movie man, whether they want to admit it or not, In some way, they see themselves as a main character in whatever story that they're making up up here, and to create the atmosphere to enhance their experience in life, that's your job totally.

15:06 So how did it feel when you got the call that you were joining Wednesday thirteen and Drowning Pool. When I got the call for Wednesday thirteen, I immediately called my drummer, Kyle, because he's best friends with all those guys I love Wednesday thirteen. We were actually for a short period of time under the same management a few years back, and I got to I got to see them live a few times in Vegas, and I've always been so blown away. And the guy, literally he's I've never gotten to really talk to him after the show because when he goes up there every night, there's their singer. He leaves it out all up on the stage. Oh, this guy was coming off the stage and I was watching him just like drenching sweat, exhausted, like, but people trying to talk to him. He's like, Okay, yeah, cool, this guy works his fucking.

15:58 Ass off and so does the right Oh, no doubt. So I would I would always kind of keep mind, you know, there's there there will always be another time in place to maybe meet him and gets another guy and pick his brain about stuff. But I've always wanted to talk to him about his process and and and where he gets these ideas from. So hopefully we'll have a few moments like this on tour. But it's the rest of the guys I got to I got to meet mostly at the most recent sickn World in Vegas, because, like I said, my drummer Kyle knows them, and they're probably one of the like sweetest group of dudes I've ever met, super cool, super professional. This is gonna be a lot of fun. I'm I'm really excited for this. And then when we got the call for Drowning Pool, I asked three times for them. I didn't believe it because I mean, that's that's the music from my childhood.

16:45 Like I said, before, you know our industry is creating the soundtrack for people's lives, no doubt. When I was a kid, that was my soundtrack. That me getting ready for school every day, either getting on the bus or getting a ride for my pay, thinking nobody understood me. I've got Drowning Pool's first record in my ears, going like, nobody better mess with me at school today, nobody gets me off whatever. You know how it is when you're you know, a young teenager, but you know, feeling like I was the coolest thing in the world listening to you know, that whole first record. And now we get to tour with them, and they are so cool too, like as human beings, Like I'll be interviewing them at incarceration next week, but I've interviewed them before and they're like I love doing interviews with them because they're they're just cool dudes and nice dudes, great human beings and just just chill, like no attitude whatsoever, just having a good time.

17:45 I've never seen another band as heavy as them, except maybe for like slipknot somebody else, you know. I mean, we can debate heaviness all day, but that has their song bodies has become like a household name household. Right. Maybe people don't know the name of the song, maybe they don't even know who's playing it, right, but when they hear it and the count happens, you know, before the chorus, everything everybody knows it. I've seen old people that don't listen to metal hear that and go one, nothing's wrong with me too. It's everywhere, and so to be able to have achieved that type of just like I don't know, being known like that, it's extremely impressive.

18:32 And see what I love about hearing this, It's just like, Okay, so Ozzie just has his last performance and what was said about him, which is so true. He's always always just been the biggest fan. And you talking like that again, going back to the soundtrack of your life. Any great artists that I've ever met, they're a fan first musician second. Yeah, absolutely, So what else do we want. To tell the listeners about the Nocturnal Affair and what you have coming up? Or also give out your socials web how they can buy your merch all that could stuff.

19:13 Are we recording? We're recording, but we're gonna be live, so we'll. So whenever this this airs, either this is going to happen or this already happened, but we are dropping our latest single for the summer. We have covered Hadaway's song what Is Love, and we've we've spiced it up a bit. So we we did a music video with our friends in Killpop Media and Hintson Media in Vegas and we're dropping it Wednesday or Thursday, depending on your location in the world. And uh, that's that's exactly what we're touring on this summer. So it's it's nice song of the summer what Is Love? And you could You can find everything about us on our website Nocturnal affair dot com.

20:01 The Nocturnal Affair is how we go by on Instagram, and. I mean, yeah, nice and any other things you want to share with the listends that we haven't covered al ray that they should know about your band, and you know why they should come see you alive and listen to you. I mean, I think they should determine if they should come see us. They should go listen to our music, go check out our latest singles. We've got our single cross Me Out that just got finished doing a radio campaign. We landed number twenty eight on the Billboard Rock charts. In America with that badass song by the Way, and. Then we've got a little bit of a heavier song that we didn't do a radio campaign on called Benefit of Doubt, which we released shortly after Little Bit Heavier.

20:44 It's definitely got that old school kind of new metal influence coming out of it, a little more high energy. So go give those you know a listen. If you like what you hear, come hang out with us, and if you don't like what you hear at least come out to see Wednesday thirteen and Dragic Pool because they're amazing. Well that is definitely going to be amazing, all three of you, And thanks for giving us great music, you know, because that's the best therapy there is. And you are providing us with the soundtrack to our lives, So thank you for that, and thanks for being on the Adventures of Pipe Main, Thank you for having me. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipemin on w for CUI Radio.