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Hi, you love them too, Yes, that's true. For see
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why were you young?
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Welcome to Rockville.
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No, North America's largest rock festival is finally here. It's
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the Pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W
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four c Y Radio. And I'm here with.
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Wetzel and Chris of Attack Attack.
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Nice and you're attacking. Welcome to Rockville.
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We are, we came here, we saw here, we conquered here.
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Yes, yesterday I heard like monster trucks back there, like
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riving up and stuff as rules, And I thought to myself, Yeah,
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that's a tack attack invading. Welcome to Rockville almost. So.
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We were talking about something before about alcohol and interviews.
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So I used to do when the Black End Whiskey
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first came out, I used to do my interviews. They
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asked me and come over to Metallic Black Intent and
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do the interviews so that the bands could taste the whiskey.
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Had some interesting interviews, but by far my best interview
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ever was Airborne, who were so drunk, like so beyond drunk.
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This tracks that they were literally.
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Doing an impression of announcing a Mets baseball game.
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Interesting and they were good.
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Oh and they were good like he's like and Mookie
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Wilson coming around the bag and he's heading for home
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and he's going and oh my god, oh my god,
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here comes the ball and at least safe and they
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no Australian accent, just straight up. Its just like the
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announcer from back in the day. Wow right, you know?
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So can you top that?
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No?
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I don't know what it is about band guys and whiskey,
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but it's like you run into one, you go, hey,
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do you do you like whiskey?
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And they're like, yeah, actually I do.
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Do you like whiskey?
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Ye?
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I love whiskey.
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You go to the next guy.
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Do you like beer?
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Yeah?
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I love beer.
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I don't know what it is. It's just tost together
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a peanut, butter and jelly.
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Did you ever see that meme about the eighties rock
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star opposed to the rock star now? So it's a
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picture on top of a rocker lying on his back
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on the floor, passed out, Jack Daniels in one hand,
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guitar in the other, and today some kids sitting on
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his desk with the guitar, has lap and fingers on
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the keyboards of the computer.
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We're definitely photo number one were it can be both.
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We can do both See, that's the best bands if
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you can go both ways.
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It's all about diversity and investment.
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So tell me about the evolution of your music now
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for Attack Attack too, because it's pretty badass. And when
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I really love about it is it's unique instead of
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sounding like everybody else now and not like you guys
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ever did. But I find a lot of the music
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nowadays like there's this algebraic equation. You can play it
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just like this, especially like in the metalcore and it's like, no,
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I think an arts should just express themselves any way
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they want.
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Honestly, it's a hard thing. And we've put out three
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EPs since twenty twenty. We also went on this quest
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of rediscovery, right and it's really really easy to get
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in your head about stuff. You're trying to figure this
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thing out and you miss the obvious. And so we
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put out a couple of different EPs. We started working
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with different writers and we're just trying to figure out what, like,
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what is this?
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Does this even belong? What are we doing? You know?
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What do we want? Really is what?
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It comes down just like what do you want as
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an artist? And there's a million different things and pressures
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and situations that come from the outside, and then we
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finally hit this point of just realizing and remembering what
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is it about us in high school that made this work?
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What was like, what was that X factor? And what
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it came down to was we started working on dance.
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We got the work tape for that. I got ten
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seconds into that thing and I was like, this is it.
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We did it.
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I found it, and you know what, it was us
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just abandoning everything else and going back to Attack. Attack
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is a chaos brand, right, It's a chaos band. And
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the way that it got that way was in the
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early days. I remember sitting in Caleb's parents' basement writing
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stick Stickley with the other guys, and the entire universe
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did not exist outside of that room. We were just
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writing music that we wanted to hear. And it's a
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very simple thing to say now, but like, it's so
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hard to come back to that. And we finally got
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to this point of our motto for this whole record
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was it's just not that serious, right, and we just
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need to get back to this point of we're in
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our thirties, we've got jobs. None of us need to
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be an Attack Attack, but it has something for us
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and what we discovered was this is the outlet. This
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is the creative outlet for us to just do whatever
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the fuck we want and to write the music that
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we want to hear, and we don't have to explain ourselves.
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We don't have to justify it, we don't have to
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have there. It doesn't need to be a reason. It's
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just this should be fun and we should have a
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really good time and we should be sitting in the
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studio as we do, and.
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We just suck it up.
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Man, We're laughing, we're drinking beers. We rope in other
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writers and we're like, no rules, what do we got here?
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We're grabbing random samples from splice of elephants trumpeting and
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random shape.
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We're like, how do we make this work? Right? And
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so that's just we reach.
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That point of finding that very uncomplicated spirit of because
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that's what we want.
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And I love that you're saying that, because first of all,
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if you're not having fun doing this, you're in a
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wrong business. Okay number one. Number two, I think you
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do have a little different attitude when you do have
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jobs and you do have a way to support yourself
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to where you can sit and say I don't have
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to listen to anybody because I'm doing this for fun
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and whatever happens happens.
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Right, And that was it.
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It was just rediscovering that spark of we're doing this
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because we love it, just we're passionate, we care, and
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it was just really cool. The whole album process, we
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weren't even we didn't even want to make an album, like,
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we didn't even get that far into thinking we were
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just making songs. Like he said, we simplified it, started
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making songs. Dance came out. He looks at me. I
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look at him and I'm like, dude, I think this
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is it, and he's like, it's time.
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He goes, we.
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Should do a record, like and then this is a
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big deal because Attack Attack has not done a full
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length album and at thirteen years so we're in we've
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all done EPs, we did EPs, and we're like, I
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think it's finally time.
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And then it was go time.
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Then I'm flying to Nashville every other weekend and we're
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hammering out songs.
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We're throwing the elephant horns in. You know, we're doing.
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Shit that we love, we really love, and some of
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it's it's silly, it's goofy.
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It should be right, it should be that way. Yeah,
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I'd fine. Like back in the eighties, record labels made
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it too serious and it killed metal for a while, right,
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you know, by make it too serious and too bullshit too.
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The same thing happened when attack a Tech put out
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its first record in two thousand and eight.
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Metal core was really silly at that time.
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Right, and it was brand new, and it like, honestly,
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the whole genre for the most part, is just high
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school aged guys just like making music, just be fucking cuz.
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And there were tons and tons of really cool things
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that came out of it. And the style, the culture,
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the music, all of it was very not to be lofty,
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but it was very avant garde, and that's what made
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it interesting.
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So we made it entertaining it. So we made it
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like fun to participate in because it was.
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Just this whole third space that anyone could just walk
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into and I watched it happen. It's kind of the
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same thing you're talking about is once it starts to
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make money, then that's when the outside influences come in.
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And then you also you get in your own head
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you're like, oh, this did really well.
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How do we top it? And that's the wrong question
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to ask.
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And I really watched Metalcrep have this identity crisis of
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trying to be something it's not instead of just accepting that,
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like it doesn't have to fucking matter, right, And then
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it got boring for a long time, and then we
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kind of went through that same thing where you know,
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I don't want to say that some of our newer
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music is boring, but it was an important discovery process
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for us to try things and to try to fit
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in different places and just go, that's not right.
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That's not who that's not what we do, that's not
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who we are.
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Like we're dumb and we like making stupid jokes, and
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like maybe I want to dress up like a fucking
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cowboy and tell everything say basically, just say I'm gonna
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ruin the band and bait everyone into it and have them.
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Fall for That was brilliant. I just have to say
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that was fucking because even I bought it. Okay, even
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I bought it, and I'm like, fuck, they got me.
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What's really funny about that, too, is when we finished
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dance and Chris and I just got to this point
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we just looked at each other, and we just go
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we can't just give.
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This to them. They can't just have it all right.
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There needs there's a hoop needs to be jumped through,
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a barrier needs to be gotten over. And we start
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talking and he just goes, I think we need a villain.
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We need a villain, and I was like, you know what, Yeah,
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I'm just gonna take all that. It's exactly what we
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did in the early days when people called us Crab Corp.
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That was meant to be bad, right, they would making
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fun of us, and we made T shirts out of it.
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See I love that too, you know what I mean.
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And we owned it and we were like, that's cool.
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That's a sick brand, thank you, and then basically just
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printed money off of it. So we get to this
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thing now where it's like, you guys are just all
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the negative things, and so we just look at each
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other and we're like, let's gass it up. Let's make
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them believe it, right, Let's just confirm everything they think
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they know.
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About it, and let's take it. Yeah, let's take it
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to a thousand and just see what happens.
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It's almost like, instead of letting you know, the haters
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kind of dictate what we're doing.
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They're almost helping us write the story. I know, you
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know what I mean. So they say something and we're
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gonna run with it.
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That's better.
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We're gonna run with it, and we're gonna make it
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really funny and entertaining. And that's exactly what we did.
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We threw him in a cowboy hat and we got
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them up there. He's throwing money in Los Angeles at
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the and everyone's mad.
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They're like, how could you do this? You're destroying the brand.
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What I've played the cun song for the audience.
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I only ended up doing about twenty seconds of but
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there was this kid in the front that was so
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he's screaming, fuck you, like and I just see the venom. Yeah,
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he just like he wanted me dead right there, and
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I'm a cowboy boots, I got the hat, I got
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that dead, the dazzled boot, bolo tie and shit, and
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I'm throwing money out there and it was like. It
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also was funny because half the audience caught on immediately.
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They're just dancing, and then the other.
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Half I just see this insane look, yes, just bewilderment
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And then I stop it and I'm like, all right,
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we got the content.
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Do you guys want to hear the actual song because
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it's nothing like this, and we got Will Ramos on it,
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and I want to see that fucking pit open up
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