PipemanRadio Interviews Black Daggers

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the White Man. You take the
brand of what's it topless console? Then

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taking the souls and said you said
it's as the White Man here on the

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Adventures pipe Man W four C Y
Radio. When I'm here with our next

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guest who has some killer music that
I want to share with you. So

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let's welcome to the show. Spencer
from the Black Daggers. How are you

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excellent? Thanks Dean, appreciate it. Thanks for being having us hear me.

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Hey, my pleasure. And so
it's pretty funny because I have a

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friend right now who is in a
Dallas airport. She left early this morning

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from the snow of Alberta to come
visit me in South Florida where we're having

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a weird storm ourself. But it's
not snow. Yeah, it's actually right

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where I'm at. So we're in
Red Deer. There isn't really any snow

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right now, but it woke up
to a bunch of frost so it's definitely

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cold enough, but yeah, the
snow's coming. Yeah. She sent me

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a picture this morning when she was
going to airport and it was definitely a

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lot of snow where she was.
Yeah, so yeah, that would have

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surprise me. So Florida would be
fun. Maybe I'll come down there shortly.

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There you go. And I always
think that's why some of the best

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music comes out of places like Canada
or the Scandinavian countries, because when it

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gets that cold and that's snowy and
that dark, you got nothing better to

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do but to sit inside and create. Yeah. That, you know,

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I've heard that analogy before, like
even going back to like the classic rock

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days of you know, legendary bands
like the Guess Who and you know Backman

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Turner, Overdrive, you know the
Randy Backman stuff. You know that.

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I think that's a quote he said. He's like, what the hell else

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are you supposed to do when it's
minus forty out there? Right, and

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you just get together and you just
hang out in each other's basement and have

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a couple of wobbly pops and see
what kind of noise you can make.

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There you go. I love it, So tell us about your newest album.

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And you know, for people that
haven't listened to you, for how

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you could paint the picture of why
they should listen to it. And for

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those at r RA fans of you
guys, how is it the same?

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How is it different from previous music? Okay, so full disclosure, it's

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it's actually our first record as as
the Black Daggers. So Valentine vandall,

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who's the singer and lyricist. Uh, he and I kind of met and

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then uh we started writing and recording
stuff and and and kind of blossom from

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there. We brought Stan on,
and we brought Mike on to fill in

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uh, you know, another guitar
and bringing the low the low end,

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and it kind of went from there. And but as far as the album

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is concerned and the music, you
know, it's we've we've always kind of

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thought of it as like we're we're
a rock band, We're an alternative band,

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uh kind of thing. We you
know, I what really got me

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into what we were doing was,
you know, for me, it's very

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much a I describe it as kind
of being a bit of a therapeutic thing

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for me as well. It's a
bit of an outlet. So you know,

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we just songs that invoked a kind
of an emotional response out of us

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is kind of what we were after, and that's kind of what we thought

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we were able to throw together with
this record, and it turned into this

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concept thing, right, So it
kind of tells the story that of kind

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of somebody, you know, kind
of given their all in life and then

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eventually, you know, they make
a deal with the devil because things aren't

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going so well, and then you
know they're kind of you know, high

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on life after making this deal.
But then of course it starts to fall

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apart and chaos ensues. So that's
kind of the story behind it. And

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I think there's a lot of practical
things in there that the average person might

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be able to relate to on some
level. Maybe not the entire thing,

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but there's definitely stuff in there that
I think everybody could find something to relate

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to. It definitely, you know, kind of get gives me, you

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know, flashbacks of it's kind of
like my life. Yeah, I mean

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like there's definitely some like really like
lyrics in there that that I can deeply

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personally relate to, right, And
that's kind of what you know, got

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me going for it, because you
know, Valentine was able to construct this

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character who's like, you know,
I've been calling it like an amalgamation of

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all these different types of people or
experiences or people like it's not just us,

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it's like it's people we know,
and he just like brought them all

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together into this one character, right, And and the whole album is just

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the Each song is like a chapter
of a progression through this story of this

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this character's life and experiences and and
the chaos that comes from from living a

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life of chaos, I guess.
And you know what, Yeah, And

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you know what's funny looking at all
in the songs, you know, listening

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to them and what they're all about. It even has which I like because

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it's type of person. I have
this like positive overtone to it, you

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know. At the same time as
what you're talking about, it's also giving

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like some you know, for lack
of a better way of playing motivational positive

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influence to people. Yeah, Like
it's I mean, if you look at

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it right on the surface, it
might come across as as more on the

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darker side, which I wouldn't dispute, But if you if you really dig

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into what the message, if you
can call it a message is and there

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it's actually positive. It's it's you
know, it's it's it's really kind of

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a hey, don't you know,
try not to let things get out of

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control and and you know, you've
only got one life and you know,

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try to make the best of it. And you know, really, at

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the end of the day, it
is you know, like the last song

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Carpet DM is like a retrospective from
Beyond the Grave, is how Valentine wrote

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that. It's just kind of like
thinking back about you know, the lessons,

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the would it could have should us
right, you know, as they

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say, yeah, exactly, and
don't we all kind of do that?

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That's why listen that one. I
love the name of that one because I

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live that every day, you know, and I've always since I'm young,

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I felt like you got to live
every day as if it's your last,

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because you just never know. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean

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I wish sometimes I could take my
own advice, and I'm sure there's a

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lot of people that could relate to
even that feeling. Yeah, you know,

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it's easy to preach, it's harder
to live it, right, So

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absolutely, but you know, at
the end of the day. We you

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know, our goal with this record
just like was we we wanted it to

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be authentic, right, Like what
you're hearing is authentically us, you know,

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it's we recorded it at my house
in my basement, the entire thing.

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I engineered the whole thing. And
then you know, we worked on

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the songs together collectively, like Valentine
wrote the lyrics and most of the melodies.

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But you know, we all brought
like Stan, Mike, myself and

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Valentine all brought different aspects of you
know, the songs together and then that's

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what we recorded. Like it's all
recorded. You know, we wanted it

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to sound like a band, is
what I'm trying to say, right,

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Like it hasn't been like that was
the goal. Make it sound like we're

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authentic, We're a real band.
It's got that human element and the emotions

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are raw. So that was the
whole goal behind the entire record, was

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just make sure it's real and people
can relate to it and it's yeah,

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it's it's just it's us humans playing
music and projecting emotions. That was the

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goal. There you go, And
it is so important that music be authentic

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because listen, it's obvious when it
isn't. And really that music is invokes

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emotion and the only rate and the
way you're gonna invoke emotion is by being

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real and authentic. Mm hmm,
yeah, exactly so, and that was

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the goal. And I hope we
achieve that. I can safely say that,

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you know, even if only two
people ever heard this record, I

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can safely say, hey, my
bucket list item is checked off, like

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I put something out that I'm proud
of, and nobody can take that away

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from me. I can stand behind
this. So you know, I'm super

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proud of what we've been able to
achieve. And that's coming from, you

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know, an introvert who doesn't like
to, you know, say anything nice

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about himself because you know, I'm
introverted. So it's like I hate everyone,

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but mostly I hate myself, right, yeah, right. And it's

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so funny you bring that up because
people don't realize, like most musicians are

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introverts, and they think because they
get up on stage and do what they

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do that they're extroverts, and actually
it's quite the opposite. And when you're

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on stage, you are, and
people don't understand you kind of are being

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an introvert. You're in your own
world, even if you're performing to one

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hundred thousand people. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I mean getting up on

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stage is yeah, like it's you're
right, you're supposed to go out there

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and you're supposed to engage the audience
put on a show, and they're there

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to be entertained at the end of
the day, you know, so you

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kind of got to do that.
But you know, for I could just

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see why so many musicians like get
burnt out from touring and doing shows after

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a while, because I mean,
if you're like, that's that's a lot

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to go out there in front of
a lot of people people right right,

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you know, and could fool yourself
into thinking that you're going to entertain them,

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right. Yeah, So that's that's
I can certainly understand that. And

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I'm also somebody I'm big about album
artwork, so I think it's really cool.

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But the album artwork was shot at
the abandoned Riverview Hospital. Yeah,

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that was super cool. I actually
lived in the South Story White Rock area

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when I was a oh my elementary
school days, and I had no idea

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that that thing was there, and
I had never heard about it until we

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started doing like this record and working
on the artwork, and I was like,

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oh, no way, you know
out in Coquitlam there, which you

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know, lower Mainland Vancouver area,
And yeah, seeing the pictures, I

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was even watching videos on it and
the history behind it, and I was

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blown away, and I'm like,
yeah, this is totally it totally fits

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for what we're doing. You know, It's nice. I love it.

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Like one of the songs I'm here
is the story of him being in a

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mental institution and trying to break out, and part of the Riverview Hospital was

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effectively a mental institution. Yeah,
exactly. And there's a lot of a

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and then ones in the US by
the way, you know, like I

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used to live across the street from
one that's closed down now and it used

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to be pretty creepy. Like me
and my bro would just sit out on

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the front porch and there would be
like mental patients a walling and bet hiking

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on the road in front of my
house. Like yeah, whoa yeah,

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yeah, some things, man,
no doubt, no doubt. So tell

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everybody how they can connect to you
guys on socials on the web, how

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they can get the new music check
out everything you got. Yeah, okay,

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So we are in the process of
Okay, so the basics, we're

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on most of the socials or I
mean the major ones, I mean uh

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TikTok, Twitter or x as it's
now called from Facebook where all you know

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all those just look up Black Daggers. It's virtually all Black Daggers or Black

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Daggers music. Our website is Blackdaggers
music dot com. You know, you

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can kind of every thing is kind
of connected through those channels. Music.

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We're on all the major streaming platforms, and we have physical copies coming out

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here. There's gonna be a limited
run of one hundred physical copies of the

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album with the hospital artwork on the
front, and then that's it. After

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that, there's gonna be we will
re release it, but it's gonna be

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different artwork. So we're working on
getting that the logistics behind that sorted out,

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so you can see that that'll be
coming down the pike here pretty soon

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in the new year. Will be
probably when we re release with the other

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artwork, and there might be some
additional b sides because we've got a ton

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of music in the in the Warchester
in the vault that we wrote. We

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only pulled out the eight songs that
we thought fit the best for what we

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were trying to achieve for this album
and also for timing, right, you

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know, there was you know,
we took on, like I said,

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we did this whole project by ourselves, and there was you know, only

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so much we could handle going day
in, day out for two or three

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months before you start to go crazy. Right, So yeah, right,

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yeah, yeah. So we ended
up capping it at eight songs and felt

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that that that got the entire story
and message across we wanted to and and

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so we'll re release it and there
might be one or two additional songs included

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in the re release that aren't on
this one. Nice any other things you

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want or final words you want to
share with the listeners that we haven't covered

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already. I think that's most of
it, you know. Valentine might have

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a few other things. He's usually
the one to He's he's been spearheading a

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lot of the marketing and promotion of
the record as well. So I'm sure

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there's something I'm forgetting, But follow
us on the socials and you'll see kind

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of what's going on. We'll have
announcements of what's coming up, especially with

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the hard copies, with with the
Riverview Hospital and and you know, any

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any additional news and future releases.
I think we're gonna be doing some more

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streaming on TikTok. We got a
lot of interesting feedback. Uh. Valentine

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and I were re recording or transposing
a song last week that we had recorded

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in standard tuning because we're recording it
down to sea, and we were just

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streaming that whole process, and we're
like, well, all two people might

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like this, but apparently a lot
of people liked and want us to do

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it again, so we might do
some more of that. You know.

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I just kind of seeing the creative
slash recording process of us beginning to work

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on some of these other songs we
want to release in the in the new

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year. So you know, some
people might find that interesting, some people

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might find it boring as hell.
Well I hope they check everything out because

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you guys are badass. And thank
you for giving us your art and thanks

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for being on the DRAMs of Pipe
Man. Yeah, thank you for the

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kind words, thanks for having us
really appreciate it. So yes, thank

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you, and thank you to everybody
who's taken the time to listen our music,

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because it really means a lot We
put our heart and soul into it.

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So if you listen to it and
you're able to take one positive thing

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away from it, our job is
done as far as I'm concerned. So

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love it. Yeah, that's great
and I look forward to hearing a lot

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more from you guys. Yeah,
I appreciate it. Thanks Dean, Thank

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you for listening to the adventures of
fight Man. I'm w for CUI Radio.