PipemanRadio Interviews Call Me Karizma at Aftershock 2023

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And I'm here with call me Charisma. We're at Aftershock Baby. It feels

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good. Oh man, is this
the greatest festival? I played louder than

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I've never actually been to either of
them, but I played louder than Life.

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And something about the vibes here is
just different for I don't know how

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to explain it. You're like kind
of in the woods. You're like there's

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just a little more chaos and stuff. It's like it is a park.

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It's a real part, so it's
like a typical California state park. So

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it's got that chill vibe out there
yea, and back here, like we

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had a little bit as at Louder, but back here is a way core

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vine for sure. Yeah, got
the open bar, the drip bar,

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and then did you see there's a
chef out there that's gonna be my right

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when we walked in, I'm like, all right, after the interview,

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I gotta get some chicken or whatever's
going on. He makes like tacos,

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pizza and burgers amazing, yes,
yeah, yeah, yeah, so both

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are great, but this is already
I feel like, I don't know,

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this feels more like warm and welcoming
almost, you know, like Louder's a

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little more open, you know,
and this is like you're all like together,

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so it's cool. So you know
what's funny is yesterday I was telling

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Christine, who runs the Median,
ye're about, you know, Parkway Drive,

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and he was wearing something similar to
what you're wearing. And then Jose

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was wearing it, you know,
because he was announcing Parkway dr. Yeah,

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and then I see you. I'm
like, is this the new trend

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of what everybody's wearing. It was
so funny because I was like, we're

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packing for tour, because we just
started the support tour we're on, and

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this is just kind of like a
one off, and I was like,

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God, I don't want to just
pack different outfits every night. So I

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was like, what can we do
where we can just wear the same thing

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and then just worry about our pants
or whatever. So I just packed a

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bunch of underwear and then I went
on Amazon like two days before this quickly

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shipped three bulletproof vestival. They're not
real, but you know what I mean.

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Yeah, And I'm like, all
right, the band, we're wearing

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this, this is what we're wearing
for the next two months. I love

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it. Yeah. Yeah, and
like gray idea because I think about that

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all the time, Like, yeah, what paying acid would be for an

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urse? Yeah, you know,
because especially when you're playing all out on

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stage. Yeah, it's like and
then how much clothes could you really bring

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with you? Like I go and
tour and do all the music festivals and

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I have one bag. Yeah,
okay, I'll you know, I'm just

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gonna recycled. And it's like,
I hate doing laundry, so I have

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like pack like thirty pairs of underwear, thirty socks for as long as I

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can go without doing laundry. And
it's just like if you can just have

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an outfit. You know what you're
wearing. Then you just wear chill clothes

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the rest of the day and you
don't have to worry about like is this

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you're cool at these pants? It's
like this is where I'm wearing every day.

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To take it or leave it?
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, yeah,

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it's even playing somebody I interviewed a
louder. We were talking about the

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last time I interviewed him, which
was like Rockville. Yeah, he was

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wearing the same T shirt and then
I was taught of commenting to him.

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You know, I see on your
Instagram that same T shirt and it's like

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it's almost like that's his gig T
shirt. Yeah yeah, yeah, well,

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especially like we're not in a bus
and like we're packing for into a

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hotel room every night, trying to
save money obviously, and it's just a

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mess when you're trying to put a
bunch of clothes in the back of a

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sprinter, Like, dude, throw
on the same sweats you did the last

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five days. Once it starts to
smell, then switch it out there you

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go. Yeah, yeah, that's
the life right there. Yeah yeah,

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yeah. Where was that point in
life where you decided this is what I

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have to do. Yeah, So
I started. I'm making music in like

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middle school probably, and you know, watching eight Mile and all those you

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know, eminem and Green Day documentaries, I was like, that's what I

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want to be. But I was
also in wrestling, and that's just me

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and my brother were really really good
at wrestling, and I was like breaking

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records in my high school for wrestling
and stuff. But I just wasn't quite

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good enough to go D one for
college. And I did music as well.

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It was kind of fifty to fifty. And as soon as I graduated,

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I'm like, well, I'm not
going to I went to college,

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but I didn't get a scholarship,
so I'm like, you know, I

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got to go full out on something, and I just went with music.

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And then my brother actually went D
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thing. He's like trying to fight
in the UFC and stuff like that.

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So we're trying to just chase our
dreams and I think that's all you can

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ask for. I love it.
And you look like you were a wrestler.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, we
were. I was. Yeah,

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I got my name over the high
school walls and stuff. It was.

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It was a great time. But
it's like if you're not going to get

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like a full ride to go to
school, even if you go to D

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one or D two, D three, it's still a full time job.

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And I'm like, I can't be
working out every day and going to college

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and like also doing music. So
I just kind of gave that up and

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it was cool. I miss it. I still dream about it some days,

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thinking I'm still in wrestling, but
it's it's the same that you're on

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stage and yeah, yeah, exactly, You're still like kind of one on

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one and that's what I liked about
wrestling. It's like it's up to you,

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and that's kind of what going on
stage is like, Yo, something

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you fuck up, it's your fault. You you crush it, you get

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all the glory type things. So
it's kind of one of those things.

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See and you're the second artist this
weekend that has made the sports to music

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connection, where it's usually a lot
of artists. Yeah, it's my almost

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like a separate thing. It's like
they're musicians because they sucked at sports.

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Yeah yeah, yeah know, so
it's kind of cool to hear the art

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thing because I played sports. Yeah
yeah, you know, I played hockey.

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I played nine years baseball amazing.
But then music, yeah, became

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like my true love for sure,
for sure. But then I still do

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all stuff now, like I do
all kinds of sports man and I think

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sports. Luckily, music's turning away
from that a little bit where you don't

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have to make it by a certain
age, which is like so refreshing because

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you know, you're like twenty five, thinking your life's over if you didn't

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make it or something. And now
I'm twenty eight and I see you know,

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artists like Ronnie Radkey and stuff and
Papa Roach and they're the biggest they've

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ever been in there in their forties
and I'm like, oh, we got

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this, and with lots of crap
that when they exactly they you know,

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people pounted them out many times,
like they've been like a roller coaster,

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and now they're bigger than ever been. And I'm like, oh, so

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I don't have to make it by
thirty yeor I have to find a regular,

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you know. Like it's refreshing to
see. So it's funny too that

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you bring up Ronnie because to me, he is probably the role model of

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never giving up on your dream.
One percent, yeah, one hundred percent.

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And he's also like listen, he's
very opinionated. But that's what dude,

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we grew up on, you know, easided like eminem rage against the

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machine, green day, like you
know, you might not personally like the

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politics of whoever, but they're saying
what they want. And that's rock and

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roll to me, you know what
I mean. I love that you said

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that, because what pisses me off
is people that are in the oience when

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somebody like you know, like Chad
from mud Vaine, he talks a lot.

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Yeah, yeah, he gives his
views and I hear people yell,

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all right, shut up already and
just sing. Yeah, and people that

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say, oh, you're a musician, you shouldn't do Yeah, that's exactly

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why you should do it. And
most musicians were out time. They were

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the voices. Ye know. You
got the hip beats, the punks,

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Yeah, exactly, the rappers ate
everybody. That's honestly, if you will

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get any profession, that's you know, the musicians should be the loudest of

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you know what I mean, Like
that's you are writing songs about current time,

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you know, and that'll live forever, you know, and you have

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the influence to make positive change exactly
exactly. Why should you shut your mouth?

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One hundred percent? I totally agree
with it, and you yeah,

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exactly like you said anything from system
of down like and you could just name

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all the They've been in trouble a
million times for their views or whatever,

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but they stuck it out and that's
why they're legends, being true to them

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exactly. That's the key. Yeah, And most of those people that are

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the haters, they're the same ones
screaming free speech, yeah exactly, but

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they don't want anybody else he different
than them have free speech. Yeah,

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and I think I think we're finally
moving away from that. When it's refreshing

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seeing people like Ron he have his
own opinion and sell out fucking Arenas.

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You know, it's like that's what
it's about, exactly. And you know,

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I love that you bring, you
know, punk and hip hop and

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everything together because I come from a
time where listen, I couldn't even go

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punk shows because I was a long
hair and you get your ass kick crazy

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and I'm like, this is the
stupidest thing I ever heard. And here's

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a funny story. So there's this
guy that lives close to my studio he's

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become good friends. I broadcast some
of his events. One time when I

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was bringing the radio equipment to his
event, He's helping me take the stuff

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out of the car and I'm blasting
Slipknot and he starts like banging his head

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and I looked at him and I
just rolled my eyes. He's like,

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no, dude, you don't understand. This is my jam. It's no

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ice. Oh my god. You
know, like, stop with the assuming

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what bull should be who they are, what they are, and especially an

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artists. Let an artist just be
an artist, and that means expressing yourself

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no matter how that is exactly.
I hate the boxing in the genre.

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Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah,
the genres and nuts and it doesn't like,

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uh yeah, it doesn't matter anymore. People can like you can see

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people go to a you know,
a metal show and then they'll go see

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Taylor Swift and that's cool. Yeah
whatever, Like you know what I mean.

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I don't think you know, people
can like spaghetti and Asian food like

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it doesn't matter. I don't understand
analogy. I don't understand it, you

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know, And it's in the point
of being an artist to express yourself.

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However you're feeling at that time exactly. You know, we all like different

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kinds of music. Like, I
don't care who you are, you could

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be the most strict you know,
wait more gatekeeper metal head. There is

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bullshit. I know you listen to
other genres. I just don't admit it,

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yes, because who wants to listen
to the same thing over and over

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and over? Like you'd get you'd
lose your mind, you know, like

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people might be a horror movie fanatic, but you know they got a soft

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spot for something else, you know, exactly. Yeah, and then like

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the over and over thing from Anora's
point of view, I heard Ali from

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Bringing Me and Bring Me In a
Riza in the interview say, why do

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I want to write the same song
over and over and over again? It

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would be boring as ship as boring, it'd be dumb to play and it

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and it'd be soul sucking at a
point because it's like, well, this

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isn't even how I feel anymore,
you know, And that's the point.

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I was talking about that with somebody
the other yesterday, I think it was.

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And uh, you know, as
you go through different stages of life

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or different experiences or whatever, you're
gonna change. You're gonna evolve as you

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become a better artist. Yeah,
exactly, You're gonna want to do things

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better. Yeah, you know,
whereas you know you're hardcore fans from the

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beginning, they want to keep you
down here. I know. I know.

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Sometimes the hardest core of fans can
be the ones that I almost hold

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you back in a way, you
know, one hundred percent. It's it's

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weird. It's a weird thing when
I make music like this. I'm like,

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well, because I was nineteen and
now I'm twenty eight with a wife,

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it's like a different I'm a whole
different person, you know. Well,

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that's like Rob says, to be
goes like I wrote Ice Ice Baby

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when I was sixteen. Yeah,
yeah, come on, like let me

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go right exactly exactly. So we
got going on after after Chuck. So

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I'm on tour with this artist named
Dubie. He's actually really good. He's

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he did a few tourist with like
Jelly Roll and stuff back the day.

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He's more hip hop, but he
brings that like country rock flavor. So

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we're direct support for that tour.
We played maybe five shows and then we

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fly back to Nashville, where our
van is part because that was the last

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show, and then we drive to
Burlington, Vermont and we have like twenty

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two more of those shows, and
then any day now we're gonna announce our

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Europe tour. We have like fourteen
shows, so it'll be sick. They're

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actually bigger over in Europe, which
is great. I love I don't know

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those festivals too, and the k
festivals yep. And it's funny because there's

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some bands from like well It's a
teenager that everybody thinks and clean I did

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that. They're just gone, yeah, and I found that they've just been

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in Europe all these years. The
fans there, it's the next level.

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It's next level. I don't I
listen. I'm red blooded American, like

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I love my American fans and everything, but you go over there, it's

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just a different world. It's it's
kind of like if you had a favorite

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artist from France and they come to
America, You're going to that show.

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It's not like, oh, I
see them in six months when they come

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back. You know, it's like
you're going You're buying all remrch, You're

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singing every word and it's a it's
a different culture where it's like they want

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to go see the show. They
don't care about your last tweet as much,

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you know, like Gojira, Yeah
exactly, yeah exactly. So since

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you cross like the lines, Yeah, how would you maybe describe the difference

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between different music festivals and different I
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Yeah, I really just do whatever
I want. I don't want to explain

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it exactly. It's just I kind
of make whatever I'm feeling that day.

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And like i'd for sure like there's
some songs that my fans is don't like

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because it's a totally different thing than
I would normally do. But I love

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I grew up on hip hop music
and then I really got into the my

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Chemical Romance era, you know,
and then then the little bit of the

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Warped Tour era, and then you
know, I just kind of mash it

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all together. I'll make a rap
song and then I'll put out a completely

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different song, you know, and
and whatever. That's It is hard though,

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when people are like, what kind
of music do you make? And

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I'm like, I don't really know. Man, Like it's rock, but

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there's for sure rap in it,
but it's not quite twenty one pilots,

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but it's you know, so I
love it, Yeah, yeah, which

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I think is great, Like we'll
get post malone. Like you would call

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him a rapper, but when was
the last time heard him do just a

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rap song? You haven't he made
Indian now? Yeah exactly, He's like,

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do an indie pop and then he'll
do a country album and he's just

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an artist and that's how I and
those are the artists that live forever.

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He was just an artist, you
know, so adds a rapper and a

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fan of a rapper. Yeah,
going back to Ronnie that song, Yeah

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yeah, does that blow your mind? Is rapping skills in there? Watch

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the World Burner? Yeahh oh.
I mean I think that's amazing. And

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you can tell that he's influenced by
some of those like two thousands rap stuff

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and he and and it's amazing that
he can do that and he performs it

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live and crushes it. Oh yeah
percent. So like it's I woke up

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to that a lot, and I
he's for sure one of the people I'd

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love to work with. You know, obviously he's massive and it would take

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a lot, but I'm always I'm
always liking his shit, always been like

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that'd be sick to open Nie out
there. Yeah, we're putting out into

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the world, Ronnie. If you
hear this, well, he dev's like

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to comment a lot on TikTok,
So maybe, yeah, throw some comments

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on the TikTok. He might not
respond if it's a positive. Yeah,

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I know, I'd be like,
fuck you, Ronnie kidding, bring me

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on tour please, right, that
would be actually funny. Yeah, yeah,

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she might respond to that. Oh
I like that kid, you know,

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right, Oh that would be cool. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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So anything else you want to tell
the listeners that we haven't discussed that

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they need to know about you.
No, I mean, I'm just I'm

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just a kid from a small town
that is chasing his dreams. And I

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think that gives motivation to a lot
of people. You know. I'm not

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I'm not out here living in La
not that that's a bad thing, but

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I'm just I go back home to
the home of seven thousand people, and

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I make my music and then we
go play it for regular ass people in

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the world. And I think a
lot of people need that right now.

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You know. Thing so glitzy and
glamour and Instagram makes everything feel bigger than

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life. But you know, come
meet me at a show and I think

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they'll they'll realize that they can stick
around forever. Nice. Yeah, And

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then so tell everybody how to connect
to you on your socials on the web,

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everything is quale your charisma C A
L L M E K A R

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I Z E M A call me
Charisma anywhere, call me Charisma dot com

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and every social is that so nice? Well? You rock? I'm aftershock

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and I like that you have a
mic I can hold. It feels nice,

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I know a little power. It's
funny because, uh, it's right

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you say that because I was looking
at you in another interview. Yeah yeah,

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yeah, I was like, how's
that sound even good when the MIC's

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that far away? Yeah? I
know. And that's and the sound is

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very important, especially if it's no
camera, so you gotta see what audio

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is in the here too. I
know my sound guy he does guitar for

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me as well, but he would
love that. Oh this thing does freaking

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everything, Like I could use this
in the studio. It's got a limitar

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gain compression. And here's the wild
thing. Yeah. If I fuck up

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on my levels, yeah yeah,
it mixes it and fixes it. That's

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beautiful. You need it, especially
here with all the noise and everything.

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First time I used it, okay, I listened back in the thing,

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I'm like, oh fuck, that
sounds like shit, and I'm all about

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sound quality. And then when I
moved it off the card onto my computer,

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I saw it had all the individual
tracks I hit on the mix.

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I'm like, how does that sound
perfect? That's so good. You need

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it especially, and it seems like
you can maybe drop it and it might,

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you know, not explode into a
million pieces. Bring it places,

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and it's important. So yeah,
exactly, and I want to. I

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used to bring all that crap,
bring that all of sudden you break your

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laptop and everything's done. Well.
Thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe

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Man. Appreciate you. Hope to
be back soon. I hope so too.

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Awesome see y'all. Thank you for
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