PipemanRadio Interviews CHLOE STAR

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fucking song and expect the shoots.
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pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
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here with our next too. It's
a pre killer artist and I love the

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concept of her new songs and making
them into something that we're going to talk

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about. I don't want to say
it yet, but let's welcome to the

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show. Chloe Starr, how are
you hi? I am doing amazing.

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Thank you so much for having me. Oh my pleasure, and I just

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want to stay right off the bat. What I was referring to is how

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you know you're playing these three songs
together that are going to turn into like

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a short film, and I think
that is totally badass. Thank you,

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Thank you, thank you. It's
it's different for sure, and it's a

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great way to tell a story in
three different parts, you know. So

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I'm excited for all of them to
like come together so everyone can see and

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understand you know, one, two, and three. So yeah, yeah,

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I love the creativity about because you're
right, it's not something everybody does,

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but I think it's something people should
do. Like, you know,

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it just creates one more thing that
gets people engaged with you as the artist,

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and it's just another way to express
your creativity and artistry. Yeah,

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yeah, definitely. Also it's like
tapping into different worlds of like different creative

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avenues, you know, Like obviously
music is number one, but now we're

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also basically building a short film with
with the songs and it being a three

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piece like a three piece story.
Yeah. So it's been really fun being

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able to want make the music,
but to also act in these videos,

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like tap into the acting world and
be in these videos and then three also

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like creatively work with other creatives and
come up with these ideas and you know

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how something's going to look a certain
way. Like it's been a lot of

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fun. Well what I think is
cool bad too, is you know,

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years ago, you know, people
bought an album and it was a full

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sensory experience. It wasn't just listening
to a song. And I think you're

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taking that same concept and bringing it
to a whole other level. That's a

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twenty twenty three way to have a
full experience with the music. Yeah that

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you know, that's the goal,
and that is the goal. It's also

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people get the visual you know,
where it's not just a music video.

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It's like you get a movie and
you get to listen to the song.

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But on top of that, you
get to fully experience and dive through,

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go through all these different emotions that
I went through with these songs, and

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like in hopes that the listeners get
to relate, you know, and be

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able to match it to an experience
they went through. Very cool, and

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let's let's talk about a little bit
about each part from your perspective as the

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artists, and you know, how
they did affect you emotionally and then everyway

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else and what a little bit of
what it's about so people can get an

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idea without giving away all the secrets
so they watch it. Yeah, absolutely,

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I guess we could go by,
like you know, piece by piece.

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The most recent song, the song
that just went out last month,

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is called Fool. And that song
is like, obviously, if you've seen

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the video, you get the ideas
about toxic relationships, you know, and

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it's well, it's about a toxic
relationship, and the title itself is called

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is fool. So I felt like
during that time when I wrote that song,

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I felt like anything that I I
was doing, like any decision that

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I was making, whether it is
a intimate relationship, friendship, even in

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a relationship with a family member,
it's like I felt like I was just

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constantly making foolish ass decisions, you
know, and me being the one that's

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like I felt like I was always
the one getting hurt or I was always

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the one just like stuck in some
weird ass situation that I couldn't like properly

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figure out how to find a solution
for whatever the argument or whatever it could

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have been. And you know,
that song is just like me being sick

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of playing the fool, Like I'm
sick of being the one that's always fucking

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stuck, and so like, definitely
that was for sure about toxic, being

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stuck in a toxic relationship where there's
manipulation, gas lighting and all these things

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that like that's not love, you
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of like a healthy relationship has drastically
changed since then. So yeah, it

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just kind of takes you through the
motions of the whole thing of like that

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push and pull and that you're fighting
you're not fighting, and you really see

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that in the visuals, you know, and you get to experience that.

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And I personally feel like with the
direct the whole team that I worked with

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on that video, it got executed
to a t. So I was super

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stoked about how the whole thing came
out. And yeah, and now you

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know, my next single called Found
my Piece is dropping on the seventeenth,

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so we're only a few days away, and that is like that song.

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I don't want to give away too
much, but it's it's basically like you

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know what, in full, I
went through all this hard shit. I

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was fucking stuck. I couldn't get
out. I didn't know how to move.

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And then you get into the mid
Now we're in the middle of like,

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you know what, I'm starting to
realize that like I don't need anybody

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to like the only person that can
give that I'm in charge of myself,

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right, I'm in charge of me
and like I'm not gonna have someone's opinions,

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judgments or shit like shame me.
Like like I'm in control here.

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I at the end of the day, who am I with? I'm with

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myself. So like being comfortable being
alone and being able to you know,

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I found my I finally found my
piece, and the lyric is I found

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my piece when you're away. So
starting to realize that once you remove the

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negative you know, energy out of
your life, You're like, yo,

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holy shit, you are the one
or whatever it is you've been the one

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weighing me down because I feel fucking
great now, you know. I love

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it, you know. And it's
just it's funny too, because you know,

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we all go through that. Some
people admit it, some people don't,

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some people learn, some people don't. I'm an example, like I

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still haven't learned my lesson with that
shit, you know. And it's like

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I love where you said to being
all right being alone because that is where

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I learned and my lesson while I
was always like that, like you know,

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I mean I have a brother as
an example. He can't handle being

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alone and he's like, I don't
know how you do it and blah blah

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blah, and and he almost gets
offended by it because like if I go

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out to dinner with him and his
significant other and I don't bring a date,

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He's like offended, like you need
to bring somebody, and I'm like,

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uh no, I don't. Like
I'm fine being by myself. I'm

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sorry. You have a problem with
it, you know, you know,

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and it's that's what it is.
Everybody else else has a problem. And

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then you stick in these stupid relationships
with people for the wrong reasons, and

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you know, and the toxicity,
like it doesn't go away. And the

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funny part about that is is my
brother is constantly calling me. He's gonna

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be pissed when if he hears this, but who gives a shit? Uh,

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you know, He's constantly calling me
about the drama in his relationship.

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Like ah, literally, I'm like
I keep telling him, I'm You're never

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gonna find the person you're looking for
while you're with somebody else, you know,

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and that that's always been my advice. So I'd rather be miserable alone

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than miserable with somebody. Yeah.
Yeah, It's also like what a powerful

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thing to like for you like you
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different type of strength. You know, once you realize like you're enough,

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you know exactly exactly, and that's
the only way you're gonna be. Ain't

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good to anybody body else either,
because you know, until you're good with

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yourself, how can you be good
with somebody else one. And that's how

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you avoid the toxicy. I think, once you're good with yourself, that's

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the problem. We're so afraid to
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the wrong people. And you know, like when you're I've seen it.

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Actually people think it doesn't exist.
I've seen when somebody's with the right person,

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and man, it doesn't. It
does exist. Yeah, yeah,

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it does. It definitely does.
And it's it's also a learning process,

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you know. You got to,
like you said it, you got to

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make sure that you're good with yourself
first before introducing another person like or else.

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It might just go fucking sideways,
no doubt. And then usually what

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you do, which is what I
do, is your only focus on making

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that other person happy, and then
they don't give a shit about making you

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happy because you don't give a shit
about making you happy. You're focusing on

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them exactly. Then you lose sight
of yourself and then you're just then you're

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just miserable, right, totally.
It's work, no doubt, that's why.

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You know. It's another thing too
that you would probably experience as a

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musician, Like I go on tour
too, doing like radio coverage at festivals,

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and you know, people that are
not doing that don't get it.

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Like That's another discussion me and my
brother have is like He's like, well,

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you're never going to meet anybody if
you if you're always on the road.

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I'm like, it's exactly the opposite. Actually, that's where I am

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meeting the people when I'm at home. I'm not because I'm sick of all

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the people I've met at home.
Fact that is right, exactly true.

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And then you're around your own people
like you automatically around people that are similar

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to you because you're in that environment
exactly, people that get you and understand

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you. And yeah, for sure. So tell us a little bit about

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what really brought you to become an
artist. Was there a moment in life

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that you were like, this is
what I need to do. Bro?

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Was there a moment? Yeah,
there was so many moments. What a

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big questions. Yeah, that's a
huge question. That's like a you know,

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I'm like, that's a whole day
of that's a whole conversation for an

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entire day. Right, So,
Like when I was younger, I struggled

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a lot. I struggled so fucking
much. I struggled just to be alive

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and participate in society as a normal
human being. I couldn't like I don't

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know, it was just a constant
struggle. And like growing up, I

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struggled with a lot of you know, I struggled with depression, substance abuse

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and at a very young age.
And the one thing that really got me

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through when I was I'm talking like
twelve, thirteen, fourteen was journaling.

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So I would journal how I would
feel. That was the only way I

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knew how to express, So I
would journal, and then that turned into

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poetry, and then poetry turned into
songwriting, and then you know, like

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it was my release and it's what
made me feel better and what really got

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me through the day. And basically
like everything kind of just fell into place

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and I was definitely yeah, I
mean I still am, you know,

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the odd one out doing just the
most randomst creative things. Growing up and

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never really feeling like I truly fit
in and no one truly truly understood me

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or saw me. For me,
it was like a battle, you know.

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I felt like I had to constantly
battle to like have people get me.

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And so you know, it like
definitely stemmed from from journaling how I

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felt. And uh, I got
a guitar. When I got my first

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guitar, I don't remember how old
I was, like fourteen maybe, and

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just like played around, you know, and I was always like when I

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was just I don't know, a
little kid, like eight or something like

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that, I was always sitting my
parents down being like can I just like

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dance for you and like perform for
you, you know, and it'd be

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like a Britney Spears song or something. And it's just that's just what brought

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me like joy in life, you
know. And and I've noticed it's like

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during COVID, during the lockdown,
obviously, like that was a tough time

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for everybody, and I me struggling
being alone, you know, was a

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death big challenge. And I got
into like art, and I was making

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a lot of art and like painting
and messing around with resin and doing all

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this stuff and I took a break
from music for a while, and you

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know, I was still in my
creative zone and it was great for me

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because I was able to like truly
find myself as a creative. But even

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then I didn't feel completely whole.
You know, I didn't feel like I

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was walking in my purpose because I
wasn't doing music. So whenever I am

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doing music, I feel like I
am my most authentic self and I feel

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like, you know, I am
on my path. And I just at

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this point, as cliche as it
sounds, as like I don't know what

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I would do without it, you
know, I truly don't. I would

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feel so lost. And you know, there's been moments where I've always felt

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like I'm doing this for this person
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At this point in my life,
nah, I'm doing this for me,

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you know, like I have to
do this for me. This feels like

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my commitment to myself. And you
know, the hope is that people will

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relate and you know, find that
like universal understanding and like that's just like

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a short version of why it's I
could go so deep. And then this

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happened, and that happened, and
then I got that you know, but

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like, yeah, like I have
to, I have to do it.

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I love it because that means you're
a true artist, because that it's there's

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artists that do it for the wrong
reasons, and there's artists that do it

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like you for the right reasons.
Because to me, music is the best

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therapy, not only for me the
listener, but you as the artist.

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And so I love where you're saying
about the journaling because that is how it

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kind of starts to get the stuff
out and even to learn yourself. It

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must trip you out to like if
you look at songs like maybe that you

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wrote a long time ago, or
journals and you're like where you are now

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compared to them, It's it's kind
of reflective because we don't always remember things

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exactly how they were, So when
you read the journals and stuff like that

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and you're like that fills in all
the blanks. Oh absolutely. I have

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this box in my closet. It's
just like a regular like moving box,

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you know, just like a cardboard
box, and it's full of journals and

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like, I like, all the
journals are full, you know, like

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there's like no empty page in these
journals. And I avoid that box because

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it's like if I open up that
box, I could feel that it's like

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heavy energy, you know, it's
like it carries so much weight. Where

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Like I have had moments where'P
been like you know what, fuck it,

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let's just dive in and like let's
take a look at what I was

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up to, like thirteen years ago. What was I thinking? You know,

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And it's like damn, like holy
shit, Chloe, Like are you

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good? You know, like were
you good? Like but like you said,

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like that's where all that's just where
it all came from. Like yeah,

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you know, and like music is
therapy and I'm personally I'm in therapy.

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I work with a therapist, but
that is not enough for me.

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Like music is an every day like
this is my all, my everyday therapy,

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you know, so like I have
to do this for me just to

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be also just to be fuckingsane,
you know. Right, Well, what

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a great example you are too with
that, because you know, so many

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people struggle with mental illness and they
try things that may or may not work.

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And basically the message I received from
what you just said is you can't

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just use one tool. There's multiple
tools, and they all need to work

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together with you like, just going
to a therapist wasn't enough for you.

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The music, it adds to it
and whatever else adds to it, and

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it's all part of the recipe for
feeling healthy and staying away from those toxic

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relationships. Absolutely exactly, that is. Yeah, So tell everybody how they

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can reach out to you. Connect
you on socials, get your music,

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check out when the short film comes
out and all that goods stuff. Yeah,

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so you can. My two biggest
platforms are TikTok and Instagram and my

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You can follow me at French toast
Killer. All my my music is on

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all streaming platforms Spotify, Apple,
Muse, all of them. And the

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music videos are being released on YouTube. So the next video and song is

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coming out on November seventeenth, and
it will be the video will be on

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YouTube and the song will be on
all platforms. So yeah, definitely,

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you know, stay tuned because they're
after this one, there will be another

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one and the short film will come
together nice. Well, you're definitely an

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example for a lot of a lot. You may not even realize it,

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but just being the artist that you
are and putting yourself out there, you

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know, because that's really hard.
People don't realize like how hard it is

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to like put the real you out
there. And that's what you do sometimes

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when you're an artist, and it's
interesting, like the stuff you can put

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into a song or like I'll put
in on the radio or things I don't

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really necessarily do in real life,
and artists don't necessarily do in real life.

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It's like they can put in the
song, did they sit there necessarily

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and talk with with people about But
then your example for others that you know

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there there is things that they can
do to feel better and that that they're

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not alone. So that more than
anything, I thank you for helping people

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doing that. Oh, thank you
so much. I really appreciate that,

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and like that means a lot because
then that means that you know, the

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message is coming across the way that
I had hoped for. There you go.

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Yeah, I love it. Well, you rock, your music,

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your message rocks. And thanks for
being on the Adventures of Pipe Man.

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Yoh, thank you so much,
and thank you so much for having me.

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It has been a blast just chatting. Absolutely anytime. Sweet well,

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I hope that you have a good
one and we will will stay in touch,

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my guy, absolutely all right,
thank you for listening to the adventures

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of plate Man, I'm w fur
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