PipemanRadio Interviews Cure Violence Global at Riotfest 2023

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I'm here with yes Quo. Violence is

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in the building CBG CVG nice.
I love what you're all about, Okay,

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because especially in two thousand and twenty
three, there is way too much

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violence going on in the world.
If we need people like you to help

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cure that problem, so to speak, tell us how they came about.

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What made you guys decide to start
this? So kure violence been around over

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twenty some years now. Me and
my brother right here sitting to the right

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of me, Demetrius, we ain't
started. We just a part of the

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movement. And there's something that we
came home to once, and we came

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home for prison. We wanted to
give at get into because we helped mess

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up the community where we grew up
at. We wanted to be able to

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get back to the community. And
he stop this madness all over the world.

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So me and him stop this madness
all over the world, in Chicago

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and all over We interrupt this transmission
every day, every day, changing community

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norms and let people know and there's
somebody out there who care about them and

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care about the violence and the community. That's pretty cool what you're saying,

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too, because you don't always hear
stories of people coming out of prison and

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doing good, because prison is not
a place that they rehabilitate you. Sometimes

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they make you work. In fact, most of times they make you worse.

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Yes, you know, and so
it's always good to hear somebody like

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you that comes out and takes that
experience and takes their own experience. It

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goes out there and tries to do
something great in the world, which is

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what you're doing. Yes, tell
us more about the organization, what it's

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about and how you do things.
So the good thing about the organization is

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that we community base. When I'm
in a community base, we really hire

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from the community. Everything that we
do with this work community is volument from

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the hiring process. We have community
members on the hiring pannel. We hire

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up people just like me and COVID
that's from the area where the violence is

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being escalated, things like that,
and we and we find those people who

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was closely connected to the violence.
That's how you've been those some relationships people

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from that block, don't. We
don't have somebody from New York to come

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to Chicago to work get people from
that block and we do. We train

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them up on mediation conflicts and how
to interrupt the transmission and the things that

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we already have been doing. We
was like locked up stopping fights even on

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the block. Now we just want
to bring it to the community. We've

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been doing it already. So just
because you have an argument, I don't

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mean you have to lead to a
shooting. And that's the message that we

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were trying to spread throughout the communities
that get involved in your community. Like

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now we're here trying to be a
super spread up, super spread up peace,

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super spread up hope, super spread
up the escalation just watch things.

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A lot of time, we can
see here and watch see how far it's

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gonna go. Nowadays we can't do
that because one argument gonna leads to a

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gunfight because a lot of guys not
fighting anymore. So you're really trying to

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get there to stop it from spreading
in the first place. Well, it's

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not like when we were kids,
you know, yet where you got in

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a fight, it was a fight
like now, in two seconds, you

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could be dead, yes, you
know, and that's terrible thing. Even

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somebody like me that was always a
big mouth, like I think to myself,

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Man, if I were growing up
in this world, I might be

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dead because I'd open my mouth and
somebody shoot my ass. And that's something

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like Demetrics that spoke about. You
know, it seem like every incident takes

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place, people got the lead to
violence. Yeah, And that's our whole

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thing is we want people to know
discuss they have a disagreement or have a

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personal altercation, you ain't got the
lead to shooting and killing nobody. Right.

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We understand that we ain't gonna see
out of eye that we are not

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gonna agree on the same thing.
But we ain't got to hurt each other

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though, right, we understand that
absolutely, and that's what's called by it.

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I like what you said too about
the community, because listen, we

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know how it is some certain communities. You're not gonna bring it outside her

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and he ain't gonna he or she's
not gonna help anything because they're not gonna

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listen. You don't know our neighborhood, our community. We don't. You

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don't know what we go through.
And sometimes those people may think they do,

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and even if they do, the
other person thinks they don't. And

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like he say, it's communities,
he base. So people are doing this

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work out from the community. They
are credible messages and they have the relationships.

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Exact relationships is everything. Like I
say, me and my brother Demitrius,

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we walked that life and we know
having point in us to have relationships.

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But we also know having pointed is
not to look down on people to

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judge them. We meet people where
they are because guess what, like I

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say, me and him both was
part of the problem. Now we were

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part of the solution. But one
thing we won't do is give up.

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Nobody gave up on us. And
look what we're doing now. It's never

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too late. Now. Never as
whether there's some moment in time for either

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one of you that it changed from
being part of the problem to trying to

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cure the problem. Right, I'm
gonna just say this an eternal Duali.

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But me and this brother right here
right, once upon the time we was

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at odds with each other because we
can't for different backgrounds but now look at

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us. We ain't at odds with
each other, but we're doing the right

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thing, giving back to the communities
here and all over the world, because,

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like you say, we start programs
all over the world. Cuified,

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it's Glover, it's an international movement. And one of the things that was

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turning the point for me is that
when I was locked up, I was

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on the yard, the prison yard. I was walking and it was like

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two seventeen year old guys talking about
me. They didn't even know me.

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It's like, man, when I
go home, I'm gonna be on the

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ship that he was on. Dude
was doing this and I'm looking like I

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didn't. I didn't infect it in
the generation. They don't even know me.

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So my mind click, like I
really got to get back to my

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community. So I started with my
own family. And once I was aid

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to get my family to stop the
none since the day was doing that,

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stopped like six percent of the shoots
in the community. So that's how I

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really was gotten involved in things.
I knew I had to do something,

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but I didn't know it was going
to be this work, right, And

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I've always said violence just breads more
violent, contagious spreads like a disease,

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its catagious breaks more of itself.
Yes, everybody, right now, I'll

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just give you, like your example, like Wally, give your example,

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like Wally might not like me.
Me and him don't see how that.

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So if I go in his neighborhood, his friends homies don't even got to

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know me. Now they know that
he don't like me. Now they don't

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like me. Dot's ask spread.
It's quick like that. I see it

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all the time. Oh yeah,
listen, I'm fifty six. I've seen

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alive in my lifetime. And you
know it's sad because I look back to

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like certain movies like Boys in the
Hood, like Hit Me Hard, because

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when he went, when he was
sitting in front of that billboard and talking

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to Trey and the other and dough
Boy, and they're sitting there and talking

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about how they're doing it to their
own neighborhood and their own community. And

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the key would be to stop all
that, which is what you guys are

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doing. And another thing I want
to see next year in July, I

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got a book coming out called Interrupting
Violence. So and talk about violence as

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its these has spreads and different things
like that. We try to make a

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difference every day when we wake up, because we know it's important not to

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get off with nobody. Yeah,
we're not gonna give up on everybody.

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We know we can't save everybody,
but we're not gonna give up. And

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that's the key. Like people,
you know, if they know somebody's not

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giving up, they have some hope
left. When they feel everybody's giving up

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on them, they have no hope
and then they have no care. Yes.

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Yes, So since you're doing this
all over the world, would you

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say, based on you know,
the media hype stuff. I want to

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hear the real stuff, would you
say that we have more of a problem

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here in the States than we do
other parts of the world. Well,

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I haven't been in the other parts
of the world, so maybe you can.

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I mean, guess what, we
have the same issues all over the

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world. Man. Yeah, I
saw some places that make Chicago look like

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it ain't nothing I'm talking about comparing
to violence. Yeah, Keston, Jamaica,

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different places, trend the Tobago,
we rants, Mexico, Hondarrant said

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different things like this. So what
I'm saying this, this violence is affecking

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the country as a whole and everywhere. So it affects everybody, so guess

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what, we got to do something
about it. That's why que Violence Global

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is taking the approach to deal with
this violence. We focus on stopping this

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shooting and killing on the front end
before it happened. Once it happened,

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then brothers like wilding myself, stopping
the back end where you stopping the retaliation.

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Tell me your viewpoints on that.
Okay, So I have a viewpoint

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that I think guns make people more
fearful than what they they think. It

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protects them and they feel secure.
But I remember I had a gun at

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one time. I don't know a
gun now. I don't like guns,

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but I remember normal things I would
do I wouldn't worry about when't think about

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now all of a sudden I had
a gun, like this, fear went

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into my head and then all of
a sudden, I'm like looking for that

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for protection and really ain't protection.
The only thing I'll say on that,

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you know, you know everybody got
thoughts about this, thoughts about that.

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Yeah, but that's what makes use
you need we stay in our lane.

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We just focus on what we're doing
to make a difference every day, and

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uh, you know it's you know, it's it's a big it's a big

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fight out here. And when I
say that, it's a big fight where

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we're doing what we can to do
our part, so we can't too much

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what this person should be doing with
that person been doing all that. But

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we want to be super spread us
as pure violence workers to spread the message

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that violence affects everybody and everybody got
to do something to have stopped this madness.

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Do you have a story of somebody
that was probably a very violent person

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that things differently now because of you
guys, Oh of course, uh huh.

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Well, like when they say,
we trained all over the United States,

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And I was just talking to one
of the sites the other day.

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I was talking about a young man. He used to be a participant,

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meaning he was a high risk individual. He was allegedly involved in the street

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level activities and things like that,
and the guys was able to grab holts

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on him and talk to him about
CONFI mediation and change and stops behavior about

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shooting in the first place. So
he was on the caselow for a minute.

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Then he became a volunteer. Then
from the volunteer became a violuce interrupter,

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and now he runs his own site
in DC Wow, his own site

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because he was part of the problem. But now he's have his own Votus

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Perventions site and he's doing good.
What do you think is it that changed

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that for him? The person who
was talking to him. Influence. We

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have influence. We just got to
know how to use it. And that

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influence, of course, like you
said before, it comes from listen.

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They're gonna listen to you big or
somebody like you in their community because they

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feel they can understand. Like if
I were just good somebody here in the

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intern City in Chicago and say hey, you shouldn't do that, They're gonna

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be like, you don't know what
the hell you're talking about, and for

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no other reason, but I'm not
from there. Plus, we don't,

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like Koby said, we don't use
We don't use a judgment or approach.

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Right. We don't look at it
as good and bad. We look at

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its behaviors. We know that behaviors
can be changed, and behaviors can be

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changed by obtaining new information and new
skill sets and a lot of young means

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we deal with. They have skill
sets. They just need somebody who they

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can trust and they can be with
to pull it up out of them,

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just to show them their potential,
put them in that space where they can

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excel. And that's what we do. That's what we do. And to

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your point, a lot of hate
violence is taught, you know, and

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it's not like the people are born
that way. They're taught. And whether

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that's taught from the environment or in
or from somebody else or from experiences they

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had. And so that I think
it's cool that you guys do what you

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do because that can be untaught.
Yes, and when we say definitely,

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and I'm glad you said that,
but we know violence is a learned behavior.

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Yeah, you early at the early
age. This is what you see

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every day when people see stuff in
their household. Every day you see violence

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your big brother, your father,
your cousin, your sister and all like,

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this is what you see every day. So sometimes this is what you

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become sometimes. So then that's why
I say that judge mental approach. That's

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why we don't judge nobody, because
we never know what people have been through

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or what they're going through. All
my life, I wanted to be like

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my father. He was selling drugs. Here's a street organization. He went

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to jail for a murder. I
wanted to be like him as a kid.

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So I mean a lot of times, like you say, this stuff

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been taught. We learned a lot
of this at the early age. And

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that's why we do what we do
because most of us was part of that

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problem, right And sometimes what I've
known this is you don't see any anything

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else but that you know, Yes, when you walk out your door,

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this is what you see exactly.
People think't like his normal to hear a

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gunshot. You usually growing up as
a kid, we used to hit gunshots.

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We used to hit the floor,
we used to try to hid,

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take cover. Now it's just a
normal thing. So we wanted to get

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unnormal door. Yeah, I love
that. Tell people how they can reach

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out to your organization, how they
can help. We definitely needed all the

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supportive help. We definitely need people
to fund this movement. We definitely need

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help. We need people to get
the word word out every day. Cure

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Violence Global dot Org CVG dot org. We need everybody to do. We

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need anybody to be super spread us
or spreading this message, to reach out

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to cure violences and support us anyway
they can. We're here to fight this

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problem and we don't continue to be
here, We'll continue to make a difference

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in the community and all over.
We know violence affects everybody, yeah,

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and they hit everybody's doorsteps, it
does. Yeah. And I love that

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you tell your real story because not
everybody does you know, and like like

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you said, we all go through
stuf if we've all lived certain things.

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And I think that's the only way
these kids or anybody else that's gonna relate

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is if they know that you've walked
in Their shoes are similar shoes. The

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reason, man, will he be
able to be able to I say,

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demitrians, but his nickname Wiley.
Only reason we can stop violence only because

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we've been there. Yeah, we
had that relationship. But we're not judging

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them though, right. They know
we ain't looking down on them. They

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know we ain't talking bad down on
them, and we ain't glory finding our

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past though we ain't just saying oh
we did it, that's a good point.

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We ain't bragging on that. We
just want to know. Man,

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you can't change brother's sister. And
that's why we're here to be not no

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role model to him, but a
real mother to him. I love that

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that's that's a great way to put
it. Yes, what else would you

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like the lands know that and to
know that we haven't covered already, just

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to re animate, like Kobe said
Man CVG dot org. It's bunch of

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information on there on how you can
support. I really want you to get

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involved. Become a super spreader.
I'm a super spire to find out how

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you can get involved. Sometimes we
might need your time. You never know

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who's your story can touch. Yeah, be involved, Just get involved.

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I mean, if you don't know
what to do, go to the website

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and guarantee you we've had something for
you to do. Well. I love

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what you guys are doing. I
thank you for what you're doing because I

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have eight grandchildren. I have to
grow up in this stuff, you know,

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and like you, why my grandchildren? His father, you know,

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did things that he could model himself
after, and I'd rather him model himself

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after people like you. And that's
what it is. It's seeing an example

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and seeing somebody that understands you instead
of judging you. Because we've all done

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stuff, we've all been involved in
stuff, and sometimes it would have been

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great to have somebody like you guys
for us when we were younger and the

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last thing I'll say, always remember
this. It ain't how you start,

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it's how you finish. That's right. I love it well. Thanks for

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all you do. Thanks for being
here at rian Fest, and thanks for

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being on the Adventures for Ryan Fest. For having you buy this globe,

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William Nice. Thank you for listening
to the Adventures of plate Man. I'm

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W four CUI Radio.