May 19, 2025

PipemanRadio Interviews Everclear at Welcome To Rockville 2025

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PipemanRadio Interviews Everclear at Welcome To Rockville 2025 at the Daytona International Speedway.

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Hi, you love them too? Yes, that's sure.

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W for see why were you you?

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Welcome to Rockville, North America's largest rock festival is finally here.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man W four c Y Radio, and I'm here with.

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Art Alex Suckers from the band Ever Clear.

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Nice here at Welcome to Rockville.

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Like how I said that? All like fancy and perfect, and.

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It reminds me of when you had your radio show

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on Sirius x.

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Ye Freddy here, Freddy from ever Close here and he

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was actually Art, my engineer and sychekick on the show. Nice. Yeah,

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they're still playing it. I love that, And they don't

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pay me. I don't love that at all. Isn't that

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like two so twenty twenty five, like it's twenty seventeen. Really,

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they don't pay any really.

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No, And I'll say it even though I'm on them Spotify,

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Like it bugs me because like I pay licensing and

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I pay royalties and then Spotify pays you guys like pennies. No, no,

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and they can afford it more pennies on the doors

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and they can afford it way more than I can.

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And I'm spending thousands well they're giving you not even

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enough to buy a cup of coffee.

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No, I could tell you, but I won't do it

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on Mike. But I'll tell you later. But I have

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a story about that. Oh I check it out.

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So this is my battle vest from the eighties. Okay,

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And so I gotta say too. We were talking right

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before the interview about the long hair thing. So I

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was a metal head that loved punk. And you know,

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in the day you were long hair, you couldn't go

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to a punk show. There are yeah, you couldn't go

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to either or And here's a funny story posers on Melrose.

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So I wanted to get my spikes there, you know.

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So I took three of my friends that were friends

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with the owners. Fair I'll be okay, we walk in.

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We're not even there thirty seconds my bro comes up

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to me. We gotta leave. I'm like why, He goes,

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we'll talk about it side. We need to leave in

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that we have long hair, yes, And then he tells

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me outside that yeah, because we're friends with the owners,

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they gave the courtesy. But they said that we needed

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to get you out of there or they were gonna

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kick your ass because I had long hair.

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So back in nineteen eighty, Black Sabbath did a tour

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and it with Dio. Mom's opened up for him and

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I went and saw him at the LA the Long

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Beach Arena about nine thousand people. A small arena, but

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when you're a kid, it looks huge. We walk in

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there like we're a little bit late for the opening band,

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and all the lights are on, the band's on, and

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everywhere in the arena. Everywhere it's just fights, full on,

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like fight's going at the same time, like literally thirty

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or forty.

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I believe that.

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And I'm there with my punk rock friends and I

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got long hair and they're like, man, you gotta get

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out of here. You yeah, put your hair back in

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a ponytail. It was just punk against metal. Oh yeah,

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Now it's not a deal. It really likes everything.

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It was stupid then though, because I remember being I

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was at Gora High. There were like three or four

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of us that were metal heads, like two or three punks.

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We were both getting the crap beat out of us

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by the jocks, and it's like, why not band together

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instead of being a part from each other. So that's

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what's cool about today is we're all one big happy family.

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Now I want long hair, have long hair, you want

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short hair? Up.

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Yeah, it doesn't even matter anymore. My grandson over here,

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he doesn't even know what that's like, where you couldn't

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be yourself at all.

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My daughter loves Green Day, loves Descendants, loves Pennywise, loves

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punk rock. But she also like Lama God, Rage Against

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the Machine. Deftones are probably your favorite band of ball time,

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she says. Nice, She says, my band is, but not really.

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Well, she's got to say it to you, right her dad,

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So I got to show you to the other side.

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The other side has a lot of history because its

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got blood on it from climbing up a Marshall stack

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and diving off, and the crowd moved while it was

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mid air, and you could see these patches they've bit

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that that was a metallic capacity I can see. And

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then you got Venom over here way back with Kronos

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in it. But yeah, So I grew up in Jersey

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and my dad one day he came up to me

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and he goes, meet your new mother, and we're moving

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to California in three days. That was in nineteen eighty And.

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What happened to your original mom?

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Did she pass since then, Yes, but I wasn't.

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Not at the time. No, his dad being a.

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Dad, yep, and mom was whatever, you know. But what

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a time to move to La nineteen eighty so I

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was like, I remember the first show I went to

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was at the Roxy on the Sunset Strip. It was

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Motley Crue, but before they had an album when they

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were like horror punk and they tried to burn everything

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to burn down the Roxy to bring satan. And now

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I'm like, I'm never going to a real concert ever again.

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And that started me the whole club scene there in

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the Troubadour, in the country club and reci it.

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I was down the street seeing X and the Germs,

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Nice and the Flush Eaters and bands like that. But

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even though I had the long hair and stuff, I

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knew friends that knew the Motley Crue guys and like

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Motley Krue and they're like, it's metal, they look metal,

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but it's punk. And they yes their first record, and

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I really liked their first record.

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Yeah, before they did the hair and the glam, I mean,

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they were more like punk with the metal, but they

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were to start almost of the crossover.

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Yeah, they were almost like a prettier California, California version

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of the Misfits.

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That's a good way. I've never thought of that, but

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that's like a perfect explanation.

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And without all the muscles.

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It's funny because I am a Jersey boy, so it's

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like they are typical Jersey boys.

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Oh yeah, oh yeah, you talk to Danzig, you barely understand.

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Oh yeah. I interviewed Doyle on the tour bus. Oh really,

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And the publicists warmed me ahead of time of how

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to do the interview. Let's put it that way.

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Were they right on?

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They were right on the money. It took my engineer

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like five hours to edit the interview because I want

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to make an artists look really good. That's my job.

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I'm not one of those people like, hey, I want

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to shock jockey. So there were parts he didn't sound

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that great. So I'm like, you work your magic, do

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whatever you can to make him sound good, and like

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the most intelligent person ever. Did it work somewhat a

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little bit. You guys just did something with the whiskey

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a go go a couple of years ago.

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Right, it was a couple of years ago. You know

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what's weird? So I grew up. I grew up in

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Santa Monica, and I used to take the bus and

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up to the Sunset Strip for like whenever there was

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underage night and because I turned eighteen and eighty.

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Wow, say I was thirteen, twelve and thirteen in eighty

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five six years on, Yeah, I'm fifty eight.

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You're closer to his age. And that was like heaven.

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That was better than Disneyland. I loved disneyl Ant and

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that was way better than Disney at the time because

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it was girls and rock and roll and girls total rugs.

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And if you can remember the eighties on the Sunset Strip,

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you weren't the hair.

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Yeah, I don't remember it much. Once it turned into

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the super spandex heavy metal, like long hair, guys with

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better hair and prettier than even girls.

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I'm like, that's when I was out, Like Okay, So

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I went to slayers first show ever, Metallica's first show ever,

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and then they left us and went to the Bay Area.

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So me and my bro used to hitch up the

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Bay Area to go to the Exodus shows and the

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Possessed shows, and then Slayer was playing up there. Because

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they left us with all the crap we didn't want

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to go to.

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Yeah, the be area. I had a lot of that

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speed metal and death metal. And what's the one Angel

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folic in the park? What band was that? Filipino guys?

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I know, yeah Angel, So the singer of death Angel

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is now singing for Kerry King's project.

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Oh okay, that makes sense, Yeah, that makes sense.

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And remember being a teenager in my life's goal was

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to go to London for the punk scene there. And

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it's so funny now I go over there and they're

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all saying they want to come here for the punk scene.

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It's so wild.

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Yeah. Yeah, that was the thing is like I discovered

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punkin like late seventy seven. It was like the perfect

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times fifteen, right. Yeah.

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You know who played in my high school gymnasium, you

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know in Westlake High and CALLI who Wingo Boingo?

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Oh yeah, man, I love doing going on.

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Like they played in my gymnasium. That was okay. So

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do you remember the first crossover show. It was at

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the Sun Valley Sportsman's Lodge. Do you remember that place?

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It was like an Elks lodge, Okay, And so it's

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the first time you had metal and punk bands playing

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at the same time. There was no security. It's epic.

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Coc played pre Pepper when they were hardcore punk, Savage

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Grace played The Descendants played Suicidal when they were still

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punk they weren't crossover yet. Possessed and Dark Angel was

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eighty three eighty two. I think that one was like

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eighty five or eighty four or something like that. Yeah,

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I think it was January eighty five because I just

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interviewed Gene Hoagland the other day and he said, yeah,

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that was January a five. And remember I was talking

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to coc One, So I'm like, you guys probably don't

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remember this. It was two separate interviews, one with Mike

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and one with Woody. You probably don't remember this, but

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this is the most epic show of my life. And

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he goes, yeah, it was like an Elk's lodge. Right.

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They were like, yeah, that was the most epic because,

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like what you were describing before, there was no security,

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so it was just mayhem. There was no safe place

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to hide like some gigs you can go and there's

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a place to hide from all the mayhem. Now there

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were people diving off the rafters, fights breaking out like

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it was like insane.

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That's probably like a thousand people, right.

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Yeah, something like that.

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This was nine thousand. Wow, imagine that. And there was

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security but they were just they were getting beat up. Yeah,

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the security go to try to break it up, and

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then the punks and the metal guys would turn on

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them both beat them up and get rid of them.

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And then they turn around. It was vicious. Man, there's blood everywhere.

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Wow.

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It was awesome.

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So I love it. And we were talking about before

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the interview my germ shirt here, and you had a

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story about that share that I was.

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It was nineteen seventy nine. I had long hair, but

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I had an ex T shirt on and I was

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at a record store in Santa Monica. I was in

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there looking at stuff and then all of a sudden,

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this guy yells at me and goes take off that

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fucking shirt. You don't get to wear that fucking shirt, hippie.

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And I turn around and starby Craft and I had

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seen them at so this must have been eighty nineteen eighty.

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I had just seen them at I don't know, somewhere

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on the strip, probably Whiskey, and I'm like, no, I

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go just back off, and then we started yelling at

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He started yelling at me, and I'm trying to be cool. Look,

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I like your band.

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Fuck you.

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You don't get to listen to my band. I go,

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why because I got long hair? I go, not a hippie, motherfucker?

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Fuck you?

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And that is what they called you to a hippie,

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like I remember.

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I go, I don't fucking I forget what his real

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first name was, but I called him that. I go,

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and don't lie. Clarence, you had long hair and you

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were listening to fucking metal like three years ago. So

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just fuck you right quickly. Oh yeah, by the way,

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fuck you. And they had the hole us apart.

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Oh shit, I love it.

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Pat's mirrors like in the background, says it. I've asked me,

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he doesn't remember that.

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All these stories? Is that what led you to be

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who you are today?

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Partly? Yeah, I grew up in a housing project, single mom,

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my dad left, My brother died of no overdose. Yeah,

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I was twelve, Lots of stuff like that, beaten and

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raped when I was eight, just like, really bad things happened,

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So angering me go way back. And when I heard

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Black Sabbath and Zeppelin and bands like that, that was

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my thing, right yeah, And then punk rock happened and

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I was like I still like Rush. I still love

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Rush and all those bands, but I love punk at

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the same time. And at the time you're old enough

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to remember you couldn't like both. No, you couldn't. It

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was hard to find it.

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I just saw some of my favorite punk bands in

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the past few years. You have felt like you oh

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most of them too, because we were thrash metal heads,

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so most of them were like were we all like

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punk and we were trying to create that crossover.

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It was six years ahead of you. It was just

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they people were not having it. I wouldn't talk about it.

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The first movie, the original Decline Western Soulo. Yes, barely

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see me at the X show with my hair. That's

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so cool and it's like a second there, I am.

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I refuse to cow down or cut my hair. In hindsight,

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I wish I had cut my hair. Would have had

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a much better girlfriend right right for the middle a

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lot easier because I liked those people because they were

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into punk. Some of them were kind of into metal too,

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but they weren't. They didn't dress like it. You know.

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There was always crossovers, Yeah, but there'd be metal.

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I had to hide it.

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They like punk rock, but they wouldn't say anything. They'd

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be like cool shirt.

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Yeah, I just saw a discharge exploited GBH and stuff

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like that. In the last ten years for the first

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time that I loved back then.

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I can go to our shows, no I know, and

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they're basically metal bands, but faster exactly. Look coc Crows

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in a conformity. We're full on hardcore band. Totally turned

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into a full on metal band. Yeah, like Overnight.

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Dri another example example. So one thing I do want

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to say before we go is I know you went

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through a lot in life. I've gone through a lot,

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and I think it's great. You're such a role model.

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Now in my opinion, we're both still here. Yeah, we're

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still doing because I was thinking about while you're talking

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about your brother, and I knew about it. I was

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thinking about it. But my grandson, his cousin passed away

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in September from odean and it's like they don't know,

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probably heroin.

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Yeah, fifteen, Sorry, brother, I'm really sorry.

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Fifteen.

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Yeah. I lost my brother. I was twelve, he was

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twenty one.

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And then we almost lost you several many times. And

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here you still are a voice.

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I've been defibulated three times, but.

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I love that you're here because you're a voice for

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the kids this age.

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No, I'm gone, but I'm a voice of legacy. Just

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the fact that we're here, we're still doing it.

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Yeah, clean sober.

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I'm cleaning sover, and it's just a testament that if

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I can do it, I'm a loser.

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Man.

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I'm just I'm not that good at anything. I'm good

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at writing songs and playing them.

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But yeah, I was going to disagree with you. That

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you can disagree you are great.

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I can see a softball to disagree with me. But seriously,

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I am so grateful that I get to do what

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I love to do. Look, I'm a guy in my

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sixties and I get to play rock and roll in front.

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Of Welcome the Rockville. Absolutely, I love it. So happy

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you're here. Thanks man, and I hope you keep going

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for another twenty years because you are a badass time. Yeah,

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but you're a badass musician and your music will stand

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the test of time long after we're both gone. So

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thanks for being on the adventure a pipe man.

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Thanks brother. Everybody's art from the band ever clear. I'm

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here with the pipe Man and you're listening to W

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four c Ui Radio, thank your own

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Live, Save Yourself, Thank you for listening to the adventures

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of Pipe Main on w for c u I Radio.

PipemanRadio Interviews Everclear at Welcome To Rockville 2025

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