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This is the pipe Man here on
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Radio. And I'm here with My
name is Lucas. I sing bbacle holding

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absence nice right off the bat.
I love your necklace. Oh, thank

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you so much. It's like a
jewelry company called Parabellum. They're based in

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the United Kingdom. But they do
like they do like band merch kind of

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stuff. Sometimes they've done like sleep
token necklaces and stuff. Side topic,

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but I go engaged quite recently and
he made my ring which was really lovely.

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So yeah, man, but I'm
not a flashy guy, you know

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what I mean. So that's flashy. It's just kind of yeah yeaheah,

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but yeah Parabellum. Yeah, So
where in the UK are you from?

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So we're from Wales, which is
obviously the little guy next to all the

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other countries. But uh, we're
from a place called Pontapriez, which is

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in they call it the Valleys in
Wales. So it's lots of hills,

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lots of mountains, lots of sheep
and yeah, so a little little town.

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But yeah, we're far away from
home right now in Sacramento. It

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feels very different. Is that why
you go into music? Because basically there

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was nothing else? Yeah, I
mean, yeah, escapism is a big

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of that. You know. I
was lucky my parents were very into music,

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you know, so I kind of
didn't have a choice, I think.

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But yeah, you're right when you
come from a place where, like

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I don't know, bands don't come
through very often. Like you've got to

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be the band then, you know
what I mean. If you want to

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go to a show, you've got
to play a show. So do you

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have the same taste of music as
your parents? Yeah, very much so.

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I mean, you know, they're
not into metalcore perhaps, you know

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what I mean. But like I've
got a Pixies tattoo, you know,

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and this is one of my favorite
bands, and it's one of their favorite

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bands. But there'll always be a
generational gap, you know. But uh,

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I'm always staying closer though, because
like there's so many bands that are

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bands because of their parents and sharing
the music, whereas when I was coming

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up in the music, no,
yeah, you would never catch my dad

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or my mother at a metal show
yeah, or a punk sure, or

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any yeah. And it's like the
different versions of things, Like I think

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to myself, you know, I
don't know, like Chemical Romance are one

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of my favorite bands, but then
like I feel like they were kind of

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like twenty years later the qua you
know what I mean. It's like they

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all stand for the same principles and
they have the same kind of effect on

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people. But it's a case of
as music changes, you know, things

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sound different. You know, Well, look at how music evolves, even

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metal. Okay, so I come
from the beginning of it. Cool,

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Now you have all these different parts
to it. Yeah, yeah, you

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know, and influences and stuff that
you wouldn't hear way back when. Even

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the fact of having two singers,
you know, one clean one unclean.

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Yeah, yeah, I love that
cool. But most of the people I

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grew up with there'll be like,
what is that bullshit? Yeah? For

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sure, it's a lack of willingness
to embrace evolution, right, you know.

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And I always say to my parents. You know, they got into

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Fugazi, right, you know in
ninety eight or whatever, yeah, you

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know, and like that was like
the original post hard core. And then

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twenty years later, I'm listening to
the new post hardcore and they're like,

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ah, you know, what's all
this screaming nonsense? And I'm like,

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trust me, you know, if
you were born twenty years later, like

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you'd be bumping this the same way
you did Fugazi, you know what I

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mean. Well, it's funny too, like back in the day, you

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had one band or two bands that
would do to yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, And now it's like everybody. Yeah. I think it's become

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a flavor really of the music,
you know. And and I think it's

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the same way you could say,
like all bands now have back in tracks.

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It's like yeah, because it's essentially
become like the meta, you know.

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But like back in the nineties,
like scream oh wasn't really a thing.

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You know, you maybe had a
few harsh vocalists. But there's a

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world out there now where like people
can just do this alien technique that you

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never would have imagined would be healthy
for your voice. And you know,

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the music industry has evolved with that, you know what I mean? So

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yes, but for me, it's
like my goal is to just never never

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stop enjoying what's new, you know, always try and understand, you know,

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I think so. And you know, you made a good point about,

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you know, technically knowing how to
because I sang thrash metal. Yeah,

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I can't sing more than a song
right now because I don't. I

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never had technique. So you fuck
up your throat and you don't know how

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to breathe. It's after one song
you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, undercent, you know.
And I think that's that's not to

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be like overstated though, because that's
how most bands playing today will have begun

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their their careers, you know.
So yeah, you know, we learn

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as we go, I guess,
you know, but but yeah, personally,

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I don't have it in me to
do that. You know. Thrash

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vocals, I guess, so you're
a vocalist to me already. See,

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everybody has their thing, right,
you know, And I think too.

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Another misconception that's getting shown to not
be anymore is that some of these people

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that are singing with the growl or
the scream that they can't really sing.

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But Corey Taylor, Ali Psykes,
Yeah yeah, or proof that. Yeah,

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they can sing, they just choose
to do that. I watch Alie

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and he'll be like singing normal and
then he just goes yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's
a different I'd say it's a different skill

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at the end of the day.
It's like saying, you know, you

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can't you can't box and dance,
you know what I mean, because one

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of them is different to the other, and it's like, nah, man,

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if anything, boxing and dancing have
something in common, you know.

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So I think it's the same with
vocals. It's like, just because you

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can scream doesn't mean you can sing. Just because you can sing doesn't mean

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you can scream. And if you
can do both, awesome, right you

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know, but you've got to have
yeah yeah, yeah, exactly right,

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you know what I mean. But
yeah, you're right, it's about embracing

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you know. So yeah, so
what was that one moment in time that

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you knew that this is what you
wanted to do. Oh it's a toughie,

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you know. I don't I don't
know, because when I was a

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kid, there was nothing else to
do in my little village, you know,

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So I was doing it for fun. Really, I was doing it

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you know as a as a social
thing as much as an art. You

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know. But I will say when
I was eighteen years of age, me

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and my bandmates, now all those
years ago, ten years ago, we

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played Download festival, you know as
Iron Maiden, Slipknot and Ramstein I think

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played as well. But it was
like whoa, you know, like this

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is this is what the good food
tastes like. You know, I never

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want to stop eating it, you
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that was the moment I think where
it was like, dude, and do

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you know the mad thing is is
that band split up two years later and

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then this band formed a year later
than that. So I was always trying

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to regain that high that I felt, you know, and un fortunate.

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I think we've played Download five times
now, maybe four times. You played

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this year, not this year,
but we played last year and the year

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before. I was there last year. This year though, yeah, did

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you hear what happened that Download this
year? No, there were complaints from

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fifteen miles away about metal could be
in too loud? Really what out out

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of the festival? Yeah, fifteen
miles away from down you know why because

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they design this new stuff where their
system. No matter where you are in

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the festival, you hear them as
if you're up front. Of course,

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it was windy as the UK get
I get a yeah, yeah, so

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it just whipped over the people fifteen
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The thing is, though, it's
like the UK is like infested with

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like farmers and people who live in
the middle of you know, we've got

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every field you go to is someone's
got a farm or whatever. Right,

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So it's like download in Donnington Park, you know, it's like it's kind

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of in the middle of nowhere.
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these farmers somewhere. All it takes
is a little bit of noise and they'll

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complain, you know what I mean, say they do bloodstock, okay,

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yeah, bloodstock spread where too?
Yeah? Yeah, that's the goal though.

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I mean we I don't know where
we are today, but I guess

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we're probably in the middle of nowhere, a little bit behind the Yeah.

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So yeah, not like that,
no, yeah, you're right. Yeah,

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and you know the weather's a little
better here. The weather is too

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good, right, Yeah. I'm
not built for this. It's not it's

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not drownload, right, yeah,
it hasn't been drownloaded for a while,

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fortunately, I know. But the
weather you're I don't even know. I'm

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from the Northeast and here and I
can deal with cold, but your weather's

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like bipolar. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, like glass here was doing

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download and every ten minutes I was
putting my hoodie on, taking it off,

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and yeah, and now the sun
goes down, like I live in

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Florida. Now the sun goes down
and gets hotter. Okay, day the

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sun goes down and you're freeze dark
and is cold. Maybe. Yeah,

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I know, I know, I
know that being said, though, you

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know, I mean Blue Ridge just
happened, you know, so you know,

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I think, if anything, I'd
rather have cold. Then you know

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all the crazy things that kind of
happened over here. You know how many

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times I've been evacuated from festivals like
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a hurricane, tornadoes, and then
you said Blue Ridge. Okay, So

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I was evacuating and there's this band
Heartsick, and we're walking by as the

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storm's really starting, and they had
a canopy over all their equipment. So

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I ran over there and helped them
to hold the canopy down. Okay,

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that fricking wind lifted us off the
ground and we're just like fucking lego.

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And then we grabbed one of their
other canopies and we're getting pelted by hail

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as we're trying to hold this canopy
down and not die. And it's tough

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because you don't you don't sign up
for that, right, you know what

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I mean? If you lived in
Russia, maybe right, you know,

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But yeah, it is a tough
one. But this is only our second

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ever American festival, so we're very
new to how it is out here,

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you know. And in the UK
we've played every festival we could possibly play,

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I guess. But yeah, it's
trying to get a grips with the

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same with touring America versus tour in
the UK. You know, it's horses

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for courses and there's and there's a
lot of different different beasts you need to

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try and wrangle in different ways,
you know what I mean. And if

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you're going to pick a festival to
do in the United States when you're from

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the UK or Europe, it's a
Danny Wimmer festival because okay, he tries

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to pattern these festivals more like you
guys have cool because most of the festivals

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here suck compared to Europe. Okay, yeah, because they're just huge,

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like there's too much going. Yeah. But and I hear from all the

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arts like it's all organized. All
the artists praise it, and that's my

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gauge. Okay, yeah, of
course, of course, you know how

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it is as an artist. You
have shitty experiences and your sound isn't right,

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things are not organized, or you
have a good experience, which it's

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your job much easier. Yeah,
And I will say today has been really

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great. I will say, you
know, it's like we've got a nice

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little I don't describe a trailer,
I guess, you know, with a

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shower. And you know we've been
on the road for five weeks now,

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so a shower is that's very right? Yeah, And look at this,

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it's just the artist media lounge.
Yeah yeah, yeah. And it's a

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vibe, it's nice, it's totally
yeah yeah yeah yeah and free alcohol ah,

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I didn't know that was the case. Yeah, all that stuff up

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there's free. I'm in singa mode
unfortunately, so yes, I'm gonna be

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after your set. Yeah, then
you could do like that's what the artists

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will come back here after the set
and then and then get it. Yeah,

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it happened. So we we played. We were the first band on

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today. So I'm in the you
know, I'm in the I'm in the

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market. How was it planned so
early? Because normally early on the first

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day is not a great thing.
But you guys have a pretty badass crowd,

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right, thank you? Yeah we
did. You know, We've been

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very fortunate. Our fans are very
passionate people, you know, and and

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the type of people who will come
early to a festival and stuff. But

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it's tough because at the end of
the day, someone has to open the

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day, you know. And I
think, more than anything, if you

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put all the people who saw us
today in a small club, it would

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have felt insane. But because it's
such a gigantic field, you know,

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there's a lot more space than you
know, people, right, So but

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it was great, you know,
and more than anything, we still pinch

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ourselves that we're out here and being
put on these posts with bands we grew

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up listening to. So we'll,
you know, we'll, uh, we'll

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be grateful for this no matter what. You know, Well, I love

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it. Tell everybody how to connect
to you guys on socials, on the

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web, by your merch all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So

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our name is Holding Absence and we
are you know, we're reachable on Instagram,

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Twitter. Our website Holding Absence dot
com is probably the one. But

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yeah, we'll be touring America again
soon, so coming out, you know.

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Nice. I hope you will see
a lot more of you. But

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if not, I hope you're a
download next year. Yeah. Maybe maybe

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you gotta get on bloodstock. Yeah, I don't know about that. It

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is too cool for resenting. Yeah, thank you man, it's a pleasure.

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You guys are cool. Thank you
for being on the Adventures of Pipeline.

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Thank you. Thank you for listening
to the Adventures of Pipemin on w

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