PipemanRadio Interviews Holy Wars at Aftershock 2023

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Yes here at after Shock. Oh
my god, is this like the most

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amazing festival. It's incredible and this
is ending the year for us, so

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we're in it. Oh here,
that's a great way to end the year.

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Have you guys ever done after Shock
before this time? Wow? Well

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you think of this media artist area
and like no other festival has this right,

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it's incredible. I mean you guys
have everything set up too, like

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it's like living rooms. And did
you see their cooking food out there?

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And no I did not. Oh
yeah, that's a chef out there cooking

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food. There's a drip bar,
there's free alcohol. They didn't hold back,

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that's for sure. Later in the
afternoon, this place will be packed

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with artists and nobody will be doing
their interviews because everybody will just be hanging

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out party. We'll be here partying. There you go, we will so

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tell us what we're in store here
from you guys at after Shock? How

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badass are you guys? Live?
We love playing live. We literally put

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everything into it. I'm humping the
stage, stomping around, jumping on people,

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so I guess they can expect that
from me. Yeah, we like

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playing live. I think that's maybe
one of the better things that we do.

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You know, he's like, he's
a very soft spoken, doesn't say

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much until he gets on stage.
By stage, it's like an animal comes

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out. Well. Most people don't
even realize that. Most artists off stage

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are total introverts. Yeah, and
then it's just a role you play,

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just like on the radio. Like
I play a role. It's funny how

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people believe that role sometimes too,
Like they think it's real life, just

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like reality shows. I mean,
I've had I'll tell you a funny story.

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I had an ex wife of mine
called my daughter who was working at

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the radio station. She goes,
what happened to your father? I was

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married to him for twelve years.
He was never that obnoxious. He's such

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a player now, like I'm the
same guy totally. And then she wanted

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to reconcile with me because of that, because she thought I was a player,

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not like just like did you fuck
no leave it in the past.

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Yeah, No, you gotta always
move forward, always move there's always a

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reason. You ever notice that with
an ex, if you ever even like

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think about getting back with them,
you just need to spend a short amount

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of time and you remember the reasons
why you're not with it. Yeah.

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I years ago, I my ex
and I broke up, got back together,

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broke up, and it was like, yeah, this is always this

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is gonna fail right in the end. I don't. I mean, I'm

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gonna remember what I hate about you. And even I change you, you

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know, like that's your journey.
It's not my job. I'm not trying

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to think I need to change it. You just live your life. But

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maybe we're not compatible exactly. And
you know the fact is, even if

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people try to be on their best
behavior, like you tell them things and

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then they change, it only lasts
like two weeks, yeah before because you

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gotta be you. Yeah, And
if they and if they're on a path

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of change, it's it's their own
like it's their healing journey, you know.

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And I think that's what's true of
music too. To be a good

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band, you have to be you, not what the record labels say you

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should be, not what the fans
say you should be, not what I

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say you should be, what you
say you should be. Really, that's

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what's going to create the longevity whenever
you try to change for all these other

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people. Yeah, maybe you get
a little success for a little while,

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and then it fades out and it's
gone because people can see right through that,

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yeah, authenticity, And you're right
like, yeah, people are a

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lot smarter than you give them credit
for. They can see. They may

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not know what it is that they
don't like, but they smell rats.

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Yeah. If I look at a
band up on stage, I can tell

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if they're just totally passionate having a
great time and camaraderie, or if they're

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up there like I can't wait to
get off because I hate these people I'm

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with, or you know, you
ever see those bands that that shouldn't be

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together anymore. I've seen some bands
that look like maybe it's like they're trying

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to put off like this like mystery, this cool factor, but they look

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like they're not really having fun up
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in the crowd, no doubt.
Oh yeah, I think goddings can tell.

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Yeah, so what was the moment
in your life that you knew this

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is what you needed to do?
Yeah, because yours you want radio,

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and then something happened. I was
going to be on the radio, but

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on your side. Yeah, it's
our bass player over there. Nice.

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This is the only thing I've ever
done. So I don't even know that

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I am consciously aware of a moment, because it's I haven't really ever stopped

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to think about it, so maybe
I forgot. There was definitely a moment

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though. Yeah, you've been playing
guitar since you were a kid, and

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you would lock yourself in your bedroom
for like ten hours a day. Yeah,

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that's a true guitarist right there.
Introvert doesn't need to see the world.

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What is sunlight? That's nick.
I grew up on the stage in

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other forms. I did a lot
of theater on the East Coast. There

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wasn't a lot of punk bands where
I grew up, so it was like,

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all right, you want to be
a singer, you want to be

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a performer, this is where you
go. But it wasn't until I moved

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to LA and I saw I was
doing music before. But I think when

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I saw the band Savages play and
they were playing in Los Angeles and seeing

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Jenny Beth up there in the way
she just was thismbodiment of just power,

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I knew, like, I want
that and I want I want to be

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that too for somebody else. I
feel like it's all about energy and that

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got me out of a place where
I had the most insecurity, and I

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want to be able to maybe pull
like get that to somebody else, pay

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it for it. And the people
on the other end, they need somebody

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like you because they can relate,
you know, post if somebody just there's

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a difference between somebody telling you how
you should do things and somebody that shows

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you by being that you know and
what they went through and where they can

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relate. That's where music is so
key, because it is best therapy for

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you the artist and for me the
listener. Yeah, I mean music has

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been nothing but therapy for me personally, especially in this band. It's all

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very cathartic. I went through a
loss with my parents both passing away,

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and this band kind of started because
of that because it was an act of

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It was about healing and then that
music, we just put it out not

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expecting anything, and then while we're
here today, so it's affecting somebody in

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a positive way. I love it. What do you want to add to

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that? Yeah, that's true.
I mean we're always surprised when people tell

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us how much the music we've made
has meant to them. And we get

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emails all the time from people that
can relate to Cat's story and her personal

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experience, and that is really amazing
because we work on the music and we

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make it and we don't always think
about the effect that it's going to have

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on people. And it's really cool. You know. I love it.

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That's what it's all about it and
we need it more than ever nowadays.

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Cuse man, outside this festival,
it's kind of a fucked up place out

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there. Yeah, it's a lot
of hats stuff happened in the world today,

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especially, but yeah, I feel
like it's healing, you know,

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And there's so many ways you can
you can be a part of change,

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and you know, I think there's
more than one way. So this is

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one of our ways. And look
at this, we're gonna have one hundred

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thousand people here after shock that nobody's
an outsider. There's no outside problems.

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We're just all here as one big
family, enjoying the music and escaping everything

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else. Absolutely, and that's why
I'm here. Yeah, hey, you

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know right, what you got going
on after after Shock? Well, we're

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working on a record. We did
just drop two songs and we have an

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EP coming out in November. But
we also have another album that we're working

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on too, So as soon as
we get back, we're gonna go right

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back into the studio. I love
that. Yeah, new music, that's

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kind of the next thing that's coming. We're preparing some stuff for later this

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year is already ready to go,
and then the more stuff for next year

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is what we'll be focusing on.
You And how about the new music?

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Would you say, as you've evolved
as artists and things have gone on in

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the world, how would it be
the same, How would it be different

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of previous music? Definitely different.
I mean it sounds like us. But

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we noticed when we started touring that
the recorded music that we had prior to

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touring, because we didn't start touring
until twenty twenty one. We played a

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lot in Los Angeles, but we
didn't actually go on the road, right

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and we notice in every city we
would get the same response from people I

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checked out your music because we were
always opening for the headliners, so I

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checked out your music and yeah,
I liked it, but live like you

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blew me away, or they'll say, like, your music is so much

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heavier, more aggressive live, but
the recordings are they don't really represent what

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you guys are like live. So
we took that to heart, and we

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also felt the same way. We
were like, you know what we do,

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see what you're seeing. So we
were made sure that all the new

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music we started to put out this
year and forward really embodies what we are

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like live, so there is no
disconnect. So it's gonna get heavier and

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more aggressive. So yeah, and
I love that personally because I like heavier

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and more aggressive. But I like
most of all about what you said is

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the live aspect, because to me, if you're not good live, it

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doesn't matter. And there's bands one
in particular that played yesterday that I didn't

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like him until I saw him live
and then I was like, oh,

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my fucking god, they're so good
and right. And then there's other bands

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that I really like and I'm like, I could just go home and listen

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to music, you know, and
it makes a big difference because then that

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makes me like it even less.
And the band I'm talking about from yesterday

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is Godsmack. Oh yeah, so
Like I just remember the first time I

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saw him, I was like,
what a great live show? And then

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I love how Soy gets up there
like he did yesterday. He's like,

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hey, guess what, you know
what we do? We actually play our

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instruments. It's well, yeah in
this day is right, so laptops and

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no doubt. But and that's cool
too if that's your thing, but you

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know, way to do it right. I think every artist has to be

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true to themselves period because that's the
only way they're going to really connect with

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the audience. Speaking and connecting.
Tell listeners how they can connect you on

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socials on the web, check out
your new music when it drops, tour

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dates, and most importantly, buy
your merch because that's the only way you

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survive. Yes, everything's at holyworsmusic
dot com. All of our socials are

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at Holywors Music. Merch is great. We're dropping brand new merch that's going

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to be in support of our EP
called Cult Classic on November tenth. And

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yeah, I have no live dates
to share yet, c but next year

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we will be having a lot of
live dates. But I hate where I

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can't say it yet, which is
why they have Well that's why they have

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to connect on social so they could
get updated when it happened. They connected.

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I talk so much crap about social
media apps, but it's the only

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way we can stay connected. So
follow us, you know, tak a

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bitch about the internet together. It's
funny though, cause social media, like

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I'm the same as you. But
then there's also the other side of it.

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It's like for bands. It sucks
for bands because it's a lot of

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work and a lot more to do, and you know, it's not about

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it's the business side of it,
which is not fun for an artist.

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But on the other side of it, there's so many more ways to reach

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people. Yeah, I mean there's
like everything is good and a bad and

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yeah, definitely you get a lot
more, uh that exposure that maybe you

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wouldn't be able to do except for
plan live. But I have to say

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the touring has always been the best
for us too. You've gotten the most

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follows dms by even doing that than
trying to do it just TikTok, trend

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or something I know right, especially
a festival like this, because you reached

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so many people that probably would never
find you exactly you know. So I

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love it. I love that you're
at after Shock. Thank you, thanks

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for having me. Oh, thank
you for being on the Adventures of pipe

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