PipemanRadio Interviews Jami from Code Orange at Riotfest 2023

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with Jamie from Code Orange. Nice
here at Riot Fest. Man. I

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gotta show you something real, question
that's real. I want to see if

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you know what this is? Oh
no, oh, now, I gotta

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find it again. I'll wait till
that. Okay, find it again,

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but I want it'll be like a
trivia question. I'll try. I think

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you might figure it out. Okay. But anyway, So you guys are

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hitting all the festivals. Have you
had one recently that is your favorite?

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You know, We've had some awesome
ones in Europe. Uh. We did

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this amazing one in the UK called
Outbreak Festival. That was awesome. This

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is really an honor to be here
at Riot Fest. We've been wanting to

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play this for a long time and
we finally got in the door so yeah,

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it is a cool festival and uh
man, fucking you guys bring it.

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Thank you every time I see you, like I like clear my interviews

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to have to see you guys,
you bring it. And basically for those

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that have never seen you live,
why should they come to a show?

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In your opinion, what are they
gonna experience? I think we do a

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good job at stringing a lot of
different forms of alternative music, but through

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the threat of venomous performance, you
know, we we've ever die up there.

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We put it all up there,
and I think we bring it on

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like a physical level, but I
think we also have a lot of dynamics,

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like there's it's not all just ra
ra, you know, it's a

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mixture. So I think something for
everybody who over the last you know,

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twenty thirty years has really likes alternative
music. You know. So if you

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went back to the beginning of doing
this, would you ever imagine what has

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happened now in twenty twenty three.
Oh, I don't know. I don't

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think I would imagine it in a
specific way, but I know that we

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always have strived for as much as
we can. We try for more.

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We try to push ourselves internally to
be the best we could be, and

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we hope we can get to as
many people as possible, so, you

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know, without sacrificing any of the
art we want to put out there.

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So that's kind of our methodology,
and I think that that hopefully it might

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not take it to the highest plane, but at least so we have a

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look in the mirror and be pleased
with the results. See. I love

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that most of all, because,
like I come back and go back to

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the eighties sunset strip scene and but
the thrash metal scene that left LA because

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of exactly what you're talking about,
people not being true to the art.

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Yeah, and I'm one of those
people, Like I can tell are you

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really into it or are you just
up there going through the motions? And

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that is key is like what you
just said key to me a good band.

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There's a lot of motion goers,
you know, Like I feel like

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rock music in different time periods had
one thing that was in common amongst most

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of the greats, which was like
intensity and performance and venom, and I

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feel like that's disappeared a lot.
So that's our kind of goal to try

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to push that back into the forefront
through different kinds of songs. But it's

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not really about that. It's more
about how you present it and how real

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it gets, you know, Like
it's funny. I always laugh about you

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know, some of the metalcore bands
now, it's like they put an algebraic

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equation to making their music instead of
just being true to the art. I

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don't really like any of that stuff. I feel like a lot of that

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stuff is really processed and has really
stifled rock music because a lot of the

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kids have grown up thinking that that
is rock music. And so there's a

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big subsect of them that which is
great for the bands that support these bands

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and raise them up. But then
people from the outside see the bands that

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have been raised up and it's unbands
there You go, well this sucks,

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and so you know what I'm here
to. You know which band is which.

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When you're doing that, it's like
I remember, Okay, the Big

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four of thrash. None of them
sounded the same. Yeah they're from quote

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unquote the same genre, but that
they all did it their way, opposed

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to putting people like you and artists
in box. And this is exactly how

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you have to sound to be this
and that's bullshit. You should just be

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an artist. Yeah, we take
a lot of heat for a lot of

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the artistic decisions we make, you
know, because in one set we kind

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of go from songs that are really
extreme to a song like the song I

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played on drums that's really smooth and
almost like kind of trip hop and very

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alternative. So when you do that, people are gonna get mad at you.

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But you are best as long as
it's quality. So time tells if

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things are quality or not. But
I love that, and that's what's gonna

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make you last long time, because
look at like a lot of bands from

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the eighties that had that same thing
of just putting in a formula what the

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record label said to do, and
they didn't last. Who lasted the ones

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like Metallica that did what the fuck
they wanted and even somebody like me that

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when they did the Black album because
I went to their first show ever,

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I'm like, the fuck they're posers
now, But they were right, and

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they created a whole thing of being
metallic instead of a thrash metal band.

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I agree, And we obviously currently
on a much much micro Scott smart Away.

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That's our goal at all times is
to be the only band that really

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sounds like Code Orange. There's parts
of songs and songs that maybe could sound

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like this or that, but the
whole thing in one package there. I

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really don't. I really believe there's
nobody that sounds like us. That's right,

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And that's what I like about you
guys. So now I found this

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video here. They don't want you
to take a look at Okay and tell

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me if you can tell me what's
gonna be one of our shows, it

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definitely is. When is that what
show is that from? Oh that's from

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the one recently? Yeah, yep, that was awesome, right, yeah,

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there there you are sure right?
Oh man, oh but that's your

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that's your thing. Well listen when
you're up there on stage. I think

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it's kind of like, Okay,
So I'm doing all the festivals now.

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I was at Bloodstock and then uh
wait and call it Roklahoma, and then

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and then last week's that I won't
mention, yeah, and this week and

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then I'll be at Louder next week. So I'm like washing my clothes like

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every day because I'm like, okay, I'm just breaking these yeah, and

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I'm just gonna keep recycling. I
love it. I like to once I

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find something that fits and like makes
me feel ready to go, and I

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stick with that. You know,
there you go. Have you guys ever

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played right fest before? I know
this is our first time. Yeah,

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how cool? Do you like this
festival? I hope we made some new

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fans, you know. I know
it was really hot. It was hard.

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I was I was struggling, But
I hope we made some new fans.

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You know, open some people up. I'm sure you do it.

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I find this to be one of
the better festivals because it's just kind of

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like the atmosphere and it's really organized, and I kind of like to find

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out how it is for bands,
because there's some festivals that's not easy for

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bands and others that aren't. Like
when I did hell Fest last year with

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three hundred and sixty bands, every
band was saying to me they did sound

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check in five minutes and they were
perfect. And yeah, not one band

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that three hundred and sixty went on
late. Like wow, you as a

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bed, I'm sure you deal with
a lot of shit that makes it harder,

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more stressful. It was really stressful
today. We didn't have our ship

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together till like the intro hit.
Oh wow, so things weren't working right,

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and but we did our thing.
We did what we do. So

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and you have a new album coming, right, yes, we do.

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Let's talk about that. Let's go
tell us a little bit about it.

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How it's different from previous music.
Hat you know, how you've evolved,

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because as an artist, I'm sure
you always want to evolve. It's called

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the above. It is definitely the
biggest reach for us in terms of style.

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You know, it kind of traverses
everything from uh, you know,

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like I said, trip hop,
alternative rock, a little bit of even

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like shoegazy stuff, too extreme hard
stuff, extream heavy metal, hardcore,

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hip hop. So it really is
something I think really unique and special,

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and I think it's our magnum opus
and the best presentation of ourselves we've ever

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been able to put together. I
love it. And you know, the

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combining and blending of all these different
influences and genres is I think what makes

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me music great today. In twenty
twenty three, I come from the time

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of the fucking gatekeepers, and it
was stupid, like I couldn't go to

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a punk show because I had long
hair, yeah, you know, and

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it's like, man, artists should
just be able to do what they feel.

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It's like I remember starting to play
guitar while as a kid in my

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dad was like, you better give
that up because you don't know what the

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fuck you're doing. All I was
doing is experimenting, And I think that's

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what an RS is, not just
playing what they tell you play, but

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like using your creativity, experiment and
hear different sounds and what you can do

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with it. Absolutely, I couldn't
agree more. That's what we try to

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do every waking breath. That we
have literally craziest story in your whole musical

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journey. What is it? I
don't know, hard one. I mean,

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we've I've come through the mud.
So we've played everything from basements to

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crack houses, BFW Hall, so
we flipped our van and trailer. You

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know, we've done it all.
So we've been doing this since we were

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in middle school. We all met. That's cool. We are twelve,

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thirteen, fourteen, So and you
know what, I love that you said

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all that stuff because people on the
outside they look at band like you and

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they're like they're thinking, this is
where you started, Like they don't even

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really lives all the shit that you
have to go through to get here.

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I always say it an overnight success
takes about twenty years. I mean,

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yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's
still hoping it becomes overnight one day.

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I know, right it will because
you guys kill it and like I can

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tell your hearts in it every time
I see you on stage if we are

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like, don't do If I don't
perform to the level I want, it

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feels like a knife in my soul. You know, it sits with me

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every day. So favorite tattoo do
you have one that? Yeah, I

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don't know. I like this little
centipede one I got going on, this

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bug one that's kind of skull bugs
free. I did that right now.

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Prequel. It's anything you want to
share with the fans that we haven't talked

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about already. No, just I
think if you're out there and you're searching

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for something alternative and alternative music,
whether it's you know, metal, rock,

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hardcore, whatever, I think that
you check our album out because I

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think we have something really new to
offer and I thank a lot of people

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will enjoy it. And how do
people connect you on socials, on the

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web, and most importantly buy your
merch because that's the only way you survived.

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Yeah, at Code Orange t O
t H. Sansford, Thinners of

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the Herd, Sarmato Matto and UH
Code Orange cotch dot com Go pre order

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the record, Go get the record. Nice well. Thanks for being here

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at riot Fest. Thank you and
thanks for being on the Adventures pipe Man.

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Hey, you rock. Thanks pipe
Man, you rock too. Lest

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so Yo. This is Jamie from
Code Orange and you're listening to Pipeman on

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