PipemanRadio Interviews Josh From Badflower at Aftershock 2023

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Josh from Bad Flower. Yes,
it's been a while since you and I

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talked. When did we last talk? I don't even remember. It's been

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a while, but maybe was it
before COVID. Maybe maybe I don't remember.

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It was so bad. Well,
when you do all this shit,

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it just swirls around your head anyway. Yeah, but I do have to

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tell you something funny is I was
watching on your TikTok's during COVID, and

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god then I caught a TikTok and
I'm like, wow, those are pretty

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cool. So I own a pair
of Bad Flower heeling No you don't,

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you bought some, I swear,
Yeah, good for you. I'm like,

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now that's fucking cool. Merch man. Yeah, so I had to

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get it. That was such a
wild thing. I did not expect that

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to be a thing. I made
a TikTok wearing Heelis that like blew up?

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And Healey's responded, is that how
it happened? Yeah? Yeah?

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And then I was just like I
wonder, like, how sick would it

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be if we had our own like
band? No band has done, nobody's

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done that. I was like,
sorry, I literally on an Instagram message.

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I was like, can we have
her own? Heely's nice? Like

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so crude and they were like,
whoa, we're interested in talking about it

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and I was like talking about manager
and then we made it happen. There

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it is and now I have them. Yeah, and it was a limited

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run, only that one run.
I don't think we'll ever make them again.

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I think you're a Twitter I won't
call it the other thing, but

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your Twitter is also pretty funny.
But who's this band playing today at Aftershot

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called bread Flower? Yeah? Just
some band. I'm not a big fan.

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Yeah, they're kind of weak.
I don't know why people keep booking

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Breadflower. They suck. Nobody likes
them. Oh man, Yeah, tell

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me about your most fun Twitter posts
that you did, because they're all so

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funny. A lot of times my
most fun Twitter posting, Yeah, because

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Twitter is never fun. Well,
I don't sweet that much anymore. I

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used to do it all the time, and now I'm like genuinely less interested

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in social media as a whole.
I just don't care. I just don't

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care. It's old after a while. Yeah, I really I like that

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we have obviously, I'm so grateful
that we have fans and people engaged and

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it just means the world that they're
there. Well, like I much prefer

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to engage with them at a show
in real life, you know, and

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that is who you are. That's
what's great about Bad Flower. I mean,

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your music's great, but your live
show. People have to be at

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the live show. But anyway,
so I used to tweet like crazy,

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and like almost I would say ninety
nine percent of the time if I do

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tweet, it's because I've been drinking, Like I never know that so well

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explains it, right. If you
see a tweet about like something coming up,

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like hey we have a show blah
blah blah, I didn't tweet that.

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One of our management did. Yeah. See that was the latest tweet.

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That's why I said, I that
is that Brett Flower was gonna be

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played at Aftershock. Well see that
was me Okay, see, but there

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was another one I was just trying
to look up right now that I saw

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earlier, and I was like,
that is funny as shit with it.

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So what's been going on since we
talked? You guys are like making all

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kinds of cool music. And do
you think I think that COVID had one

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positive thing to it, and that
is that artists like you got to jump

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off the Hampshire wheel and actually evaluate
their music and get creative and take more

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time. And yes, that was
true. I think if COVID didn't happen

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and we had to release music,
you know, under the first timeline that

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was in place, it would have
been a very different album. For better

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or worse, I don't know,
but it would have been a different album.

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I liked having that extra time,
which we don't have the luxury of

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now. I will say this though, releasing music during COVID sucked. Yeah,

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I think that there was This is
my personal opinion here, but I

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think that there was some potential in
ways that our songs could have reached people

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that we just couldn't reach because of
COVID, Like we couldn't play shows at

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the same time, we couldn't do
this we couldn't have in person interviews,

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and it just seemed like it seems
like we're still recovering from people not caring

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about art. People stopped caring about
art during COVID, even though some of

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the best art was made during it
because artists were stuck inside, but the

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general public was like not they didn't
care. There was too many more important

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things like fair enough, but so
people didn't care as much about art,

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and I I still feel that.
I still feel like sometimes when I'm working

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on music, I'm like, does
anybody even care? Is anybody gonna listen

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to this? Like? Probably me
projecting because I don't care about things that

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like I used to because of COVID, And hopefully I get that back.

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But well, when you see all
the people out there today that ye,

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maybe they'll see they care. Yeah, And you know what, it does

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help. We've done we've done obviously, we've done a did a massive tour

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with Incubis, We've done a handful
of festivals and all kinds of stuff in

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just in the last year. And
it does help to be reminded of the

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people who were actually in front of
you. Well, that's what the bummer

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was about. No live music because
maybe you got that feeling because you didn't

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have that experience to actually see people
caring, you know, and like those

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live streams also cool for whatever.
Yeah, okay I didn't do them.

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People enjoyed watching them. We also, we thought we did a handful of

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them during COVID. We went all
out. So when I say they sucked,

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they didn't actually sucked. Ours were
dope. But the concept of the

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live stream was not. It's not
the same for the live show. It's

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just its own thing. The only
thing I thought was cool is when artists

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and I think you did it,
Lacy stormed it really well, where you

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just did this like impromptu thing on
each and it wasn't like a live show,

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like replacing a live show. It
was just playing live And say that

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was kind of cool because it's like
a different vibe, but not a replacement

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for a live show, not even
close. I remember I was like,

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I don't care if some kid playing
a recorder gets up on stage, I'm

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going to that concert. Yeah.
I remember the first time, the first

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show we did back, which was
a quote unquote socially distanced show I remember

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playing and it was our headline show, playing the Jester and hearing the entire

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audience sing it for the first time. Everybody was crying. Wow, just

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because I remember that were there,
Yeah, because you you started crying too

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on stage to you, Yeah,
you were like I couldn't handle lost it

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because I just I like being secluded
and alone, like I lived secluded and

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alone. But for all of these
people who had been secluded for this long

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to finally be in a group of
like minded at least on the subject of

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our band, right, they all
had something in common, like they wanted

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to they like these songs, they
wanted to hear these songs. And everybody

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singing in unison for the first time
after years of that not being a thing

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was so like, knock you off
your feet powerful. It was crazy.

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You know what else I remember is
when you lost your voice but you performed

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anyway. Yeah, it didn't sang. Let me tell you something. The

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amount of positive talk about that particular
gig was amazing. You know, most

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people, you know how they are, They loved to complain about something.

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Oh blah blah blah blah blahh.
There were plenty of people complaining. I'm

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sure I'm giving you the positive side. And back back in media everybody was

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like, raving about what you did. That's so cool. So yeah,

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it was. The people who were
negative were like, why don't they just

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cancel, just cancel, let some
other band take the bill. And what

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they don't know is, guys,
this is post COVID. We're broke.

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We can't cancel shows. We can't
survive. We need to play these shows.

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And so that was if anybody's curious, the reason that we didn't cancel

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is not because we thought it was
cool to go play like that, but

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we needed to crew people to pay. And you know, yeah, that's

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the other thing right there. That's
what people don't realize is it's not that

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those the artists that was affected by
that whole thing. It's every single piece

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of the puzzle, all the crew
members. Every crew members were affected worse

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arguably because artists at least like in
some cases, we get publishing and there's

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other ways to make money. Crew
members do literally make zero money if they

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can't be on the crew making you
know, and I know you're one of

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those artists that you totally care about
your crew absolutely and that's what's cool.

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Yeah, like see that to me, that makes you cool more so than

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the music and even that show.
In my opinion, that made you cool

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because it was like, you're gonna
take lemons and make lemonade. Yeah,

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you're gonna make something, and it
was. It was badass. And that's

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for people that were there like me. That's a once in a lifetime thing.

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Yeah, we're never talking about years
later. It's one of those type

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of stories. So that's cool.
Yeah, anything else you want to tell

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the listeners that we haven't covered yet
that they need to know. I don't

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think so. I'm good. All
right, I gotta hit a bathroom soon.

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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking about. Let's get you to a bathroom.

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It's right over there. Hey,
thanks all convenient, Thanks once again

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for being on the Adventures of pipe
Man. Thanks for having me. Oh

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always a pleasure. Thank you for
listening to the Adventures of pipe Man.

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