March 7, 2024

PipemanRadio Interviews MASTIFF About Upcoming New Album Deprecipice

PipemanRadio Interviews MASTIFF About Upcoming New Album Deprecipice

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Join me, The Pipeman, on The Adventures of The Pipeman, where we catch up with Jim from Mastiff to chat about their explosive new album...

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Join me, The Pipeman, on The Adventures of The Pipeman, where we catch up with Jim from Mastiff to chat about their explosive new album described as a "Grind sludge molotov cocktail" by Kerrang. Listen in as we discuss the freedom of blending genres and the exciting evolution of metal that Mastiff embodies in their latest work. Jim and I also reminisce about the unpredictable climate of music festivals and how they contrast with the heated performances that bands like Mastiff deliver, regardless of whether the temperature is soaring or plummeting.

In a candid conversation that's as real as it gets, we reflect on the changing faces of rock stardom, with nods to Dave Grohl's down-to-earth approach amidst the glitter of fame. We tackle the shifting values within punk and hardcore scenes, considering how financial success can reshape a band's trajectory and ethos. Wrapping up with aspirations and dreams, we explore the potential for festival performances in the US and extend an invite to our listeners to engage and be part of our music journey. Don't miss this electrifying discussion where music, culture, and raw ambition collide!

EPISODE CHAPTERS
(0:00:05) - Influences, Genres, and Metal Evolution
(0:14:55) - Rock Stars and Realness
(0:24:57) - Discussing Future Festival Opportunities

EPISODE CHAPTERS WITH SHORT KEY POINTS
(0:00:05) - Influences, Genres, and Metal Evolution
Jim from Mastiff discusses their upcoming album, blending genres and the influence of early metal on our generation's music.
(0:14:55) - Rock Stars and Realness
Dave Grohl's down-to-earth demeanor, punk/hardcore ethos, and financial success in music industry discussed in upcoming album pre-order.
(0:24:57) - Discussing Future Festival Opportunities
A musical guest dreams of performing at a US festival and may collaborate with organizer Danny Wimmer in 2025.

EPISODE CHAPTERS WITH FULL SUMMARIES
(0:00:05) - Influences, Genres, and Metal Evolution (15 Minutes)
This chapter welcomes Jim from Mastiff, where we explore the band's upcoming album release and its reception as a "Grind sludge molotov cocktail" by Kerrang. I share my excitement about the band's killer music and reflect on the unpredictable weather at music festivals like Download and Bloodstock. Jim and I discuss Mastiff's hardcore evolution and the blend of genres in their new work, emphasizing the freedom and creativity in music without being confined to strict genre labels. We also touch upon how our generation's wide range of influences from the early metal scene has shaped our approach to music, compared to the younger generation's experience with more defined subgenres.
(0:14:55) - Rock Stars and Realness (10 Minutes)
This chapter kicks off with a reflection on Dave Grohl's down-to-earth demeanor despite his superstar status, contrasting it with how fame can negatively affect some artists. We touch on the transformation of certain '80s rockstars who either became humbled over time or continued to carry an inflated ego. The conversation shifts to the evolving ethos within the punk and hardcore scenes, especially regarding monetization and political stances that seem to betray original anarchistic principles. We also chat about the practicalities and changes that come with financial success for bands. I invite listeners to connect with us on social media and pre-order our upcoming album. The segment wraps up with a light-hearted challenge to pronounce the album's tongue-twisting title, "Deprecipice," and a potential contest idea for fans to win tickets to a show, culminating in plans for an interactive feature in the next live show.
(0:24:57) - Discussing Future Festival Opportunities (1 Minutes)
This chapter, we celebrate the aspirations and dreams of a musical guest who yearns to perform at a festival in the US, a goal they consider the ultimate dream. I express my support and enthusiasm for making this dream a reality, mentioning a contest related to US festivals and hinting at a potential collaboration with festival organizer Danny Wimmer in 2025. Our guest appreciates the platform and the opportunity to share their music, while I extend gratitude for their contribution to the show and the world of music. We end on a hopeful note, looking forward to the possibility of their future performances and the impact they'll continue to have on fans like those of "The Adventures of The Pipeman.

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They have some killer ass music coming
out, okay, number one,

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number two. I have to say
right off the bat that I love something

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that I read that Korng said about
them and described them in twenty nineteen as

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a grind sludge Mulotov cocktail. Like
that is the best explanation ever. So

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let's welcome to the show. Jim
from Mastiff, How are you hi?

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I'm all right? Are you?
I'm good. I'm good. I'm a

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little better than you though, because
I'm in Costa Rica right now, and

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from what I know, my weather
is a lot better than yours. Right

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now, you're probably about three hundred
and sixty four days a year, I

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know, right, So I go, I go out there to cover Download

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and Bloodstock, and you know,
I go and I think it's you know,

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I think it's just gonna be summer. It's gonna be great. And

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then I'm like, what the fuck? How is it this cold in the

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middle of summer, and it's like
bipolar. Like I'll be doing interviews and

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in between interviews, I got I'm
putting the hoodie on, taking the hoodie

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off, because like, one interview
it's hot, one interview, it's cold.

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Although a couple of years ago Bloodstock
it was not cold at all.

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Oh my no, it was pretty
brutal. Yeah, that was we played

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and it was brutal. Yeah,
but you guys were brutal there because I

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caught your set at Bloodstock then.
And I think that was also the same

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year that I did covered hell Fest
and it was like one hundred and four

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degrees. Yeah, like literally I
was doing my interviews outside instead of press

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tent because it was too hot in
the press tent. So imagine that that

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it was nicer outside, cooler outside
at one hundred and four. I mean,

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oh my god, like but that's
why. Yeah, So tell us

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a little bit about the new album. You got the new album dropping on

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the twenty second via m n ark
And I was just listening to it like

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before the interview. It's kind of
how I get pumped up for the interview.

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I just listen to the music,
the new music, in the bed,

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just hanging out doing my fig and
oh my god, it's just it's

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brutal. And it totally went along
with that explanation that Karng gave. Well,

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that's cool. Yeah, it's a
hell of an album. You know,

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even if I do say so myself, is it does? Yeah,

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Karrang have sort of captured what we're
about there with that with that quote,

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I guess. Yeah, we haven't
deviated massively from previous releases, although this

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one does feel a little bit more
hardcore. I think, there you go.

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And I love that you do kind
of like blend genres because you know,

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we're both kind of an old school
and old school you can do that

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crap. And I always saw it
was stupid when I was young. I'm

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like, isn't a musician just supposed
to experiment, not like just go by

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stupid rules. Oh exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

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We do. We do fall between
a lot of cracks, or we

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peek between a lot of mountains.
Or I don't know anyway, we're Yeah,

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we are between quite a lot of
genres, I think, not through

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any you know, we're not trying
to be We are lucky enough to be

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five all the blokes, like you
say, who have got a lot of

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influences over the years, and we
all try and you know, pump them

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out as quick as we can,
or you know, as much as we

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can between us. So it's a
little bit of a doing and throwing out,

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you know, towards what style we
would be on each song. I

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guess on each track. Yeah,
yeah, So we do try to cover

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not try to cover all bases,
but we do cover a lot of bases,

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you know. And I was thinking
about while you're talking, okay,

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And so people from our generation got
exposed to very like so many different levels

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heading into metal, opposed to I
think the younger generation today. We created

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what they have right now. So
there was no like black metal at first.

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There was no death metal at first, there was no you know,

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there there wasn't even like I'm an
old school thrash metal head. There was

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no thrash you know. I was
at Metallica's first show ever and they were

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considered power metal. Because there was
no such word as thrash metal, you

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know, and that's some clips for
them that's start with let alone be yeah

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right, yeah, I guess yeah, the thresh metal thing. Yeah,

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well, all genres, I mean, I mean, I guess it all

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leads back to your your black Sabbaths
and then your judis pre exactly. Yeah,

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yeah, I mean it's all,
but it's it's all irrelevant when you

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know, metals metal at the end
of the day, whether it some box

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or it don't fit somebox, who
cares. We're not We're not tied to

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any genre. Like you said,
we tried to be. Yeah, we

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try to have the idea that we
can play anything with bloody like and if

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if if it sounds masterly enough,
then that's it gets to be kept I

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guess not normally about ninety percent of
town. So yeah, And you know,

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and the point I was getting to
is like you have so many influencers

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as a musician over your years of
being around this genre, where I think

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the younger kids have have different influences
because their influencer more of what was created

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later, you know, And like
I even know people that are snobby now

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days, Like I find snobby to
where oh Maiden sucks, and like before

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all this stuff, Maiden and Priests
were like gods and then yeah, today

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you would look at them and go, man, that was metal. That's

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kind of It's kind of like I
remember back in the day when Venom first

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came out and they there, they
did a gig with Slayer in La and

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Tom and Cronos gone to a fight
backstage because Kronos was like, we're thely

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black metal bend. There's no other
black metal band ba And now you ask

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black metal bands today and they don't
even consider the original Venom as black metal.

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Interesting, it's so interesting. Well, surely having having the first album

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ever called black metal gives you that
we've we've sand sealed and delivered this one

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so exactly. So what was it
for you? The first thing that you

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really sticks out on your mind that
told you I want to be a musician

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and that's it. Well, if
I'm brutally honest with you, it was

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a bet in the pub, I
love it. Yeah. Well, no,

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thirty years ago there was a gang
of us in the pub in the

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boozer whatever you want to call it, the bar, and a guy who

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was with us who not that I
can play new instruments, but a guy

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who was with us who can play
instruments better as a four months in four

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months, you can't play gig.
And we were like, right, who

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sat around the table. There was
a drummer luckily, a very loose bassist,

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a guitarist obviously, and then there
was two singers or two mates who

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wanted to be singers, which obviously
I was one of them and Paul Chris

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at the time, and we were
like, okay, red rag to a

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bull to most of us, And
four months later we were playing our first

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gig. Not not massive that it's
not massive, but it was you know,

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it was the leading into a thirty
year I wouldn't call it Korea,

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but a hobby, a thirty year
hobby, I know, right, Like

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is it cool though that your hobby
can be your career, Like that's the

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way it should be. Yeah,
yeah, it's just fun, you know.

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Case how many people get to sort
of do this shit and get away

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with doing whatever the you know,
doing gigs and other people suddenly buying into

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it and going okay, yeah,
you're you're all right, you're all right,

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Well, I don't mind you.
It is it's and there's so much

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competition nowadays that when you're a band
like you that can still stick out with

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new music today, that I so
to me because there's so much out there,

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you know, it's not like the
tape trading days, okay, Like

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there's millions of songs that anybody can
listen to at their fingertips, you know,

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like me, like you, probably
I had to actually buy an album

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to know what it even sounded like. Oh god, yeah, yeah,

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and luckily you know he's come back
around. I guess for physical copies.

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I love. I love buying vinyl
when I when on as I can afford

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it. But yeah, it's you
know, I still I'm surrounded by the

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stuff at the moment. So yeah, but shuts all the wife too much.

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Oh I love that, And I
love that you brought that up too,

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because people think of musicians and they
have this idea in their mind,

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and really a lot of them are
family people, married, have kids,

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and like, just because you are
who you are on stage doesn't mean people

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know what you are off stage.
And I think you want to get away

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from that, like, especially if
you're touring. Okay, so when you

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go home, I don't think you
want to be in tour mode. You

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want to be in you know,
home recuperating. Chide, Yeah, you

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can't live in you can't live in
rock and roll mode. Sorry, I

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keep doing this, but rock and
roll mode all the time. It's got

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a you know, normality is normality, and the majority of musicians or singers

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like myself, we don't know it's
it's it's just a normal life. And

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then for however long you're touring,
you get to go into tour mode.

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So yeah, I'd rather be that
way. I think it keeps you,

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it keeps the reality, it keeps
a reality check on yourself as well.

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So no doubt, let's call what
it is. When you're getting up on

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stage, you're entertaining, You're you're
a performer. You know, even in

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radio, like I have so many
funny stories of people that have known me

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my whole life and they listen my
radio show and not and not the serious

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part, because there's like the shock
jock part too, and they're like,

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what the fuck happened to you?
And I'm like, I'm just playing a

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role on the radio man. It's
like even you know, my radio name

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is pipe Man, but that's not
my name in real life. But like

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it's so funny. People walk up
to me and they're like, hey,

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what's up, pipe man, And
then like if they meet Dean, which

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is my real name, like that
they're kind of confused because they're expecting pipe

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man. Yeah, we've got a
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real name is Jim, but I'm
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bad say there you go, and
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of funny too, isn't it.
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all these festivals and do radio coverage
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about that is when I'm sitting out
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friends and nobody knows it's them.
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this like huge crowd, not hiding, and and it'll be like somebody that

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everybody would know if he was on
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they just have no clue who and
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don't understand, Like, especially if
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at these festivals, I'm like I
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like, listen, this is their
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or fanboy out back here. Don't
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and we're all on equal level back
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enough of that out there. Like
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just be themselves and not have to
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so to speak. Absolutely, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean

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I was looking enough to once like
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he's ex I think it's his ex
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were at a festival in England and
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went, oh look it's next year. I was like, oh my god,

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right hella and he was like yea, all right, and that was

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it. And that's you know,
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They don't want the the punishers all
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they They're just we're all humans.
We're all just normal people. We've just

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been lucky enough to write music that
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do like dime Back Diamondbag Bash,
and uh, he's just sitting there barbecuing

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for every boy he did. I
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of stood next to him, But
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as the most normal superstar I know, right he is. He's like the

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most normal dude. So yeah,
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roll, and everybody that knows him
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himself as a rock star, Okay, and that's what makes him cool.

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Yeah, yeah, that's the best
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I think you certainly see people falling
full of the first album superstardom, leaving

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their own bullshit, and then you're
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that you know. There were like
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and so I met a lot of
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a teenager, and a lot of
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and they were like total dicks.
Now fast forward to today, some of

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those people turned into they got humbled
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them haven't had like hit since the
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to music. Yeah, well yeah, how how do you know I was

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on about them? Yeah, there's
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to big hardcore bun shows. I'm
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great thing like hard calls. Not
about that, right, I know everyone's

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going to make a living, but
come on, do Jesus. It is

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mird. It is kind of weird
nowadays sometimes, Like I also found what

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was weird because I'm totally into punk
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that were known for being like anarchists
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all of a sudden became pro government, and I like scratched my head.

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I'm like, that's like the antithesis
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that's that's pretty much everything that you
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wrong there. Yeah, it's yeah. Yeah, I mean, I know,

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people make money and it does change
him obviously, it's going to change

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your your living style and everything.
I mean, Christ, you can't you

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can't live. You can't live like
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rest of your life when you've got
a million dollars in the bank or a

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million around you know. But I
guess you know, there's always a moment

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where you've got to be You've got
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don't don't undermine your own Yeah,
I don't mind somebody having a better life,

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just don't be a dick about it. Yeah, exactly. You know,

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So tell everybody how they can connect
to you guys on socials, how

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they can pre order the album that
drops on the twenty second. I know

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you have a cool link tree that
links to everything, so that if you

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search us on any of the socials
just about we're massive hitch c itchc And

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like I said, there's there's links
to everything, there's pre order links,

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there's so it's all the rest of
it. You know, we're we're no

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different from most of the bands out
there that way. We're all just trying

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to viuy for the small little gap
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if anyone's interested, there's there's the
pre orders there and we'll we post them

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out personally. Still, so now
I could tell you too, it's a

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little bit of a tongue Twister the
name of the album, and so I've

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kind of I'm like, I want
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I'm going to try to say it
and I know I'm going to butcher it

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right now. So let's see depress
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it's depressor piece. Oh but there
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there too, and then I just
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many letters. I believe, I
know right, it's definitely and I'm sure

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you won't with the last You should
you guys should do like a contest for

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like a free ticket to of your
shows for who can say that ten times

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fast without screwing it up. That's
a contest. Yeah. In fact,

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you know what I'm gonna do.
My live show is tomorrow and then I'll

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give it away tickets to Aftershock that
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I think that's gonna be the contest
for my Okay, I not, You've

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got our ok Okay, I'm gonna
do that. That's gonna be so oh.

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You might not be able to give
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I'll bet you nobody will be able
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I might ring in and sweep the
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you know what I could do?
I could send you a link the same

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like we're doing here. I could
send you a link and you can come.

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We could say time for you to
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can do the contest. It would
be so fun, all right. He

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after the interview we'll talk about I'll
give you all the deats and uh.

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The last thing I want to say
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slogan. Okay, and I'm a
see and I gotta say I'm a very

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motivational, positive person that loves your
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ahead of time because it's a miserable
band from a miserable city spot. I

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mean, you know, if anybody's
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do empty gree so it's uh,

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it's it's our miserable shit. I'm
wondering there's another band I can't remember who

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it is that I interviewed. I'd
either download or Bloodstock that was also from

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Hull and was saying the exact same
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can't remember who it is. It
might have been Blacks. I don't think

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it was that one else could it
have been I'm just trying to think who

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else has played Bloodstuck? What recently? Yeah, within you know, post

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COVID, I can't remember. So
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Okay. My second wife, she
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over to the United States, they
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England, okay, and they She
was no different. She had this hoity

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toity attitude and you know, nose
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this royal and she took advantage of
the place that I had. In fact,

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I had no clue about the town
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after being divorced, I found out
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about that town, what it's about. So you'll love this, Okay,

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she's from Newcastle. Okay. Well, I'm really surprised at that because most

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of us, most of us,
and this is no disrespect to the Southern

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people, but most Northerners are quite
humble people normally you would think, but

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you know, they come over here
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because for Americans have never been to
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the UK is it like highly you
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royal people, you know. I
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that to come and play it off, you know, Otherwise you're not going

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to sing the man you want to
get by acting like white trash. Oh

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maybe you would. We got enough
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need some British girl for that.
Which Oh man, good stuff. I

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love it. I love your new
music, badass, And you guys are

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also going to be on tour in
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countries. You're playing a festival in
Poland, I believe. And yeah,

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well yeah, we've seen we've got
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there. And as we said earlier, there's so many bands out at the

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moment who are just blowing my mind
with what they're putting out. So good

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stuff. So we're we're hoping once
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have heard it, then we'll see
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All right, Well cool, I
love it and and I hope I get

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to see you guys again. Maybe
I have festival in the US too.

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That would be cool. That would
be the dream. That would be the

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dream. Let's make that happen.
See that'll be part of making it happen.

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When you come into my show tomorrow
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US festivals, I'm runing a contest
for that. Then I'm gonna call out

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Danny Wimmer and say he's got to
put you on one or more of the

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festivals in twenty twenty five. I
will quite happily talk to the Manuma a

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lot. There you go. I
love it well, Thanks a lot for

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giving us great music, and thanks
for being on the Adventures of pipe Man.

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Thank you for having me dude,
it's being a pleasure. Thanks again.

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Thank you for listening to the Adventures
of Pipe Man. I'm w for

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