Sept. 13, 2023
PipemanRadio Interviews Mothica at Rocklahoma 2023
On this episode of The Adventures of Pipeman, we’re joined by special guest Mothica at Rocklahoma. Mothica discusses what it was like growing up in Oklahoma and always standing out against her peers. Pipeman and Mothica discuss the importance of...
On this episode of The Adventures of Pipeman, we’re joined by special guest Mothica at Rocklahoma. Mothica discusses what it was like growing up in Oklahoma and always standing out against her peers. Pipeman and Mothica discuss the importance of writing music from the heart and the significance it can have on the listener. Mothica discusses her ability to write music as if she were writing in her diary and being able to hold back emotions when she’s performing these deeply rooted songs. Mothica discusses the challenges with confidence when she first started touring and how to find comfort in performing in front of thousands. You can find Mothica’s upcoming tour dates, merch, and latest releases at Mothica.com. Check out her latest release “Glow in the Dark” on all streaming platforms now!
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Listen to & Watch a show dedicated to motivation, business, empowerment, inspiration, music, comedy, celebrities, shock jock radio, various topics, and entertainment. The Adventures of Pipeman is hosted by Dean K. Piper, CST aka “The Pipeman” who has been said to be hybrid of Tony Robbins, Batman, and Howard Stern. The Adventures of Pipeman has received many awards, media features, and has been ranked for multiple categories as one of the Top 6 Live Radio Shows & Podcasts in the world.
Pipeman Radio also consists of multiple podcasts showing the many sides of Pipeman. These include The Adventures of Pipeman, Pipeman in the Pit, and Positively Pipeman and more. You can find all of the Pipeman Podcasts anywhere you listen to podcasts. With thousands of episodes that focus on Intertainment which combines information and entertainment there is something for everyone including over 5000 interviews with celebrities, music artists/bands, authors, speakers, coaches, entrepreneurs, and all kinds of professionals.
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here on the Adventure is pipe Man W
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four c Y Radio. And I'm
here with Mofica. Yes here at rock
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Lahome and Oklahoma is like your home
state. It is. Yeah, I
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was surprised a lot of people didn't
know I was born and raised in Oklahoma.
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So born in Tulsa, raised in
Oklahoma City. So when I got
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an email to play, I was
like, of course I have to come
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right back. And yeah, well
you don't necessarily look like what people outside
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of Oklahoma would think of Oklahoma.
Well, I definitely always had a similar
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style, Like I was like the
only girl with blue hair in high school,
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and then I would draw on myself
as sharpies before I could get tattoos.
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Eighteen. That proves that, you
know, when you're like that age,
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people are like, oh, it's
just a phase. But if you're
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doing that, that kind of proves
that that's really what you wanted to do.
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Oh yeah, well I'm glad I
had to wait till it's eighteen to
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get the tattoos I wanted to get
because now maybe I picked better ideas.
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Yeah, but I definitely always was
drawn to rock music, Warped Tour and
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that music in high school. So
playing this is super fun. So have
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you attended Rock Olahoma as attendee since
you're from I've never been to Rock Oklahoma
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at all. Yeah. Ever,
yeah, the first time was opening the
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main stage. Wow, and how'd
that go? It was awesome? Yeah.
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I have my parents here, family, my like old teachers, so
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I didn't even have time to be
nervous. I just was thrown on and
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played real quick. And I gave
a guitar away to one of the people
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in the front rows. Nice.
So I had my whole band sign it.
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And the girl that sang every lyric
is going home. So that's how
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you picked it? Was the one
that sang every lyrics. Yeah. I
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wanted to give it to like a
kid, you know, someone who was
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like learning how to play guitar,
but this girl changed their life, you
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know. Yeah, And I feel
bad the girl I gave it two hous
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to go on a plane. So
she'll have to figure out how to get
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it on the airplane. Now,
I'm sure she will, yeah, but
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it was super fun. What was
her reaction? Oh, she was crying.
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Yeah, so I saw her singing
every lyric and uh, you know,
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I was just like, okay,
she she's gonna get this signed guitar.
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I wish I had the idea to
have like way more guitars, but
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that that's just not right realistic.
Yeah, you can't really give out like
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maybe if I'm headlining, we'll do
like you know, Forrey Taylor can do
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that. But oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, if you're
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like just a little sprinkle of a
free guitar. But that that is just
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way cool because I mean that changes
this person's life, And like, how
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does that make you feel when you're
seeing that look on their face? Well,
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I mean it happened today when I
was singing for over fifteen and I
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tell this speech about like, you
know, depression and what I've been through,
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and if I make eye contact with
someone who's crying, I instantly start
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crying. So that happened to me, and I could barely make it through
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the song because I was just feeling
what they're feeling, and so yeah,
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it's it's hard because I'm sensitive and
I like, I like pick up on
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other people's emotions a lot, so
I have to try to not look at
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anyone right And you know that's why
you're an artist, Yeah, I mean,
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and that's what makes a good artist
because listen, you could write a
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song that means something to you,
but it doesn't have to mean the exact
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same thing to the other person.
But when they read the lyrics or hear
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the lyrics, they do relate somehow. When you force it and you're trying
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to do that, that doesn't happen. Yeah, I definitely have learned that,
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Like, you need to be more
specific in your lyrics because if you're
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too, you know, it doesn't
hit as hard when it's generic. So
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I have some like even you know
we're here and like prior Oklahoma, which
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is close to Tulsa where I grew
up. And I have a new song
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on my new album that's not out
yet, and I mentioned I talked about
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Tulsa in it, and like to
write like a diary is important to me
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to make the emotions of the song. And then when I perform it.
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I kind of have to turn that
off otherwise I'd just be crying the whole
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time. Right, Yeah, I've
thought about that. Actually, that's funny
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you bring that up, because there's
some things you sing about that you wouldn't
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talk about in real life, but
you'll get up on stage and sing it.
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Oh yeah. I think a lot
of musicians are better at writing lyrics
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about how they're feeling than maybe even
saying them. And like course you would
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expect musicians to be more eloquent,
but some people just can only put it
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in a guitar chord or in a
metaphor. And the way I look at
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like even as doing radio, there's
stuff I say on the radio I would
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never say in real life because I
just to me in my head, I'm
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just talking into mike. I'm not
even talking right, so I'm just talking
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to myself. So the stuff inside
my head comes out on the mike,
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but in real life, the stuff
in my head doesn't come out there.
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Oh yeah, it's just a mike. So I'm talking to myself. Oh
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yeah, and I and I definitely
know that because you know, I make
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a lot of like TikTok content YouTube, and like that's just me and a
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camera. So it's only when I'm
at a festival or out of show where
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I see, oh, there's actually
like people behind my phone right right,
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I'm just making everything in a vacuum. And then this is the cool moment
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when I get to meet someone's kid
who you know was a fan or whatever.
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But otherwise I'm like, oh,
I'm just oversharing and trauma dumping into
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myself right now. Right Because you
know, even with a big crowd like
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at Rock Oklahoma, when you're an
artist, when you get up on stage,
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like something happens in your brain that
you kind of tune out that you're
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talking to all these people, because
so many artists really are shy, but
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when they get on stage, there's
something that switches in the brain. Same
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for me, Like if I get
up on stage and I speaking or something,
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I look at all these people and
I'm not really thinking they're there.
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It's kind of like I'm just in
this zone. Playing live is probably the
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hardest thing for me, because I
think I had it took me years to
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get over being embarrassed because there's photos
and videos of you sounding off key,
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looking awkward. It's all my early
show videos. You can tell how self
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conscious I am. I'm fixing my
hair, I'm like all closed off,
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and then now I just have to, like, you know, I do
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my little stretches and I'm like,
I'm gonna pretend I'm the most badass right
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now, there you go, and
then just like let it happen. Yeah,
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And you know, I don't know
if you know this, but perfect
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example as James Hetfield Metallica, because
in the beginning he wouldn't come to the
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front. He was not a frontman. Yeah, and like he didn't even
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if you talk to him now,
he thinks he sucked at singing back then.
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So it's like he took a lot
of years to have the confidence in
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his abilities that you know, we're
our own worst critic. Oh yeah,
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And especially when you're playing these early
slots broad daylight, right, you know,
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in the sun, sweating and I
kind of am just thinking, oh,
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I can't wait till the day I
have a fog machine and lights behind
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me. Still little things, right, that's when when you don't have to
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zoom in and circle your name on
a poster because it's big enough to be
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read. You know, those are
like the little you know, highlights.
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I look forward to hopefully totally.
And then it's like, okay, so
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you're you're on stage doing this thing
and you notice all your screw ups,
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but the crowd doesn't, but you
think they all do, and they're looking
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at you and you're thinking, oh, they know I screwed up. I'm
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sure other musicians can tell, but
right, But luckily the things that I
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like, you know, I mess
up one part of the set, but
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I make it up by getting more
energy at the end. So when you
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kind of get used to it,
like I just played in the UK for
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the first time last weekend, so
we didn't get to do a warm up,
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sound check anything. We just went
straight into it. And now I
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know that, like, yeah,
whatever happens happens, and there's always another
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show you can be better and there
you go. So I always tell people
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to reach out to you, check
out all your stuff. Oh yeah,
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buy your merch, all that good
stuff. Well, I'm working on new
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merch because the new album is going
to start coming out in October, so
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matica dot com or at Mathica on
Instagram. And I'm really excited for Halloween
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because the whole album, I mean, it's always Halloween for me and my
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music right, But I'm definitely leaning
into that, and so it's going to
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be a very spooky next few months. So tell us more about the new
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albums. It's hard. I don't
know what to say about it. But
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oh, it's a visual album,
so I'm doing twelve music videos. Nice,
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so it's gonna be like kind of
like a short film or my version
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of one, you know. I
love it. I keep calling it the
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cheapest visual album ever because you can't
compare it to like Beyonce Lemonade or you
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know, these big budget things.
But right, sometimes though, the short
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budgets do the best. Yeah,
And I've just had this idea for so
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long and now I'm really like,
we just shot five of them and then
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we're about to finish it off.
So every song will have a video,
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which is super exciting to me.
I love that too, because I come
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from a time where like the music's
a full experience, you know. Yeah,
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and we've gotten too much to where
people just go through the tracks track
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track track rat I used to sit
with my headphones, look at the album
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cover, all the art, the
lyrics, any inserts like, and just
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studying the whole thing, and my
mind would take off on a journey somewhere
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else. I remember that viying CDs
and that's why I love designing album packaging.
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And I'm already like thinking it's funny
because I'm like most people maybe don't
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even have a record player, but
I'm like, I want to do like
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you know, the custom shaped ones, and like I love visual art,
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make a vinyl in the shape of
a moth. Yes, that'd be amazing.
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Yeah, there's so much fun.
And so I'm just finishing that and
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then so this is my last show
for the next like a couple months,
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and then you'll hear some new music
from me. I love it. Any
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final words you want to leave the
listeners with, I don't know. Stream
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Mathica for perfect skin and health.
Those are good words though, because like
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there's a buzz where I'm just gonna
do that just because I need health.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well
you are amazing artists. I'm so glad
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you were here at rocklaholmak for having
me again. It's always nice to talk
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to you, Always nice to have
you here. Thanks for being on the
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Adventures of pipe Man. Thank you, Thank you for listening to the Adventures
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of plate Man. I'm W four
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Here's your host, the white manka
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cod su This is the pipe Man
here on the Adventure is pipe Man W
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here with Mofica. Yes here at rock
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Lahome and Oklahoma is like your home
state. It is. Yeah, I
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was surprised a lot of people didn't
know I was born and raised in Oklahoma.
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So born in Tulsa, raised in
Oklahoma City. So when I got
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an email to play, I was
like, of course I have to come
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right back. And yeah, well
you don't necessarily look like what people outside
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of Oklahoma would think of Oklahoma.
Well, I definitely always had a similar
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style, Like I was like the
only girl with blue hair in high school,
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and then I would draw on myself
as sharpies before I could get tattoos.
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Eighteen. That proves that, you
know, when you're like that age,
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people are like, oh, it's
just a phase. But if you're
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doing that, that kind of proves
that that's really what you wanted to do.
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Oh yeah, well I'm glad I
had to wait till it's eighteen to
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get the tattoos I wanted to get
because now maybe I picked better ideas.
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Yeah, but I definitely always was
drawn to rock music, Warped Tour and
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that music in high school. So
playing this is super fun. So have
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you attended Rock Olahoma as attendee since
you're from I've never been to Rock Oklahoma
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at all. Yeah. Ever,
yeah, the first time was opening the
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main stage. Wow, and how'd
that go? It was awesome? Yeah.
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I have my parents here, family, my like old teachers, so
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I didn't even have time to be
nervous. I just was thrown on and
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played real quick. And I gave
a guitar away to one of the people
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in the front rows. Nice.
So I had my whole band sign it.
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And the girl that sang every lyric
is going home. So that's how
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you picked it? Was the one
that sang every lyrics. Yeah. I
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wanted to give it to like a
kid, you know, someone who was
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like learning how to play guitar,
but this girl changed their life, you
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know. Yeah, And I feel
bad the girl I gave it two hous
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to go on a plane. So
she'll have to figure out how to get
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it on the airplane. Now,
I'm sure she will, yeah, but
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it was super fun. What was
her reaction? Oh, she was crying.
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Yeah, so I saw her singing
every lyric and uh, you know,
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I was just like, okay,
she she's gonna get this signed guitar.
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I wish I had the idea to
have like way more guitars, but
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that that's just not right realistic.
Yeah, you can't really give out like
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maybe if I'm headlining, we'll do
like you know, Forrey Taylor can do
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that. But oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, if you're
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like just a little sprinkle of a
free guitar. But that that is just
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way cool because I mean that changes
this person's life, And like, how
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does that make you feel when you're
seeing that look on their face? Well,
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I mean it happened today when I
was singing for over fifteen and I
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tell this speech about like, you
know, depression and what I've been through,
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and if I make eye contact with
someone who's crying, I instantly start
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crying. So that happened to me, and I could barely make it through
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the song because I was just feeling
what they're feeling, and so yeah,
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it's it's hard because I'm sensitive and
I like, I like pick up on
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other people's emotions a lot, so
I have to try to not look at
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anyone right And you know that's why
you're an artist, Yeah, I mean,
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and that's what makes a good artist
because listen, you could write a
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song that means something to you,
but it doesn't have to mean the exact
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same thing to the other person.
But when they read the lyrics or hear
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the lyrics, they do relate somehow. When you force it and you're trying
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to do that, that doesn't happen. Yeah, I definitely have learned that,
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Like, you need to be more
specific in your lyrics because if you're
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too, you know, it doesn't
hit as hard when it's generic. So
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I have some like even you know
we're here and like prior Oklahoma, which
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is close to Tulsa where I grew
up. And I have a new song
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on my new album that's not out
yet, and I mentioned I talked about
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Tulsa in it, and like to
write like a diary is important to me
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to make the emotions of the song. And then when I perform it.
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I kind of have to turn that
off otherwise I'd just be crying the whole
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time. Right, Yeah, I've
thought about that. Actually, that's funny
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you bring that up, because there's
some things you sing about that you wouldn't
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talk about in real life, but
you'll get up on stage and sing it.
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Oh yeah. I think a lot
of musicians are better at writing lyrics
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about how they're feeling than maybe even
saying them. And like course you would
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expect musicians to be more eloquent,
but some people just can only put it
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in a guitar chord or in a
metaphor. And the way I look at
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like even as doing radio, there's
stuff I say on the radio I would
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never say in real life because I
just to me in my head, I'm
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just talking into mike. I'm not
even talking right, so I'm just talking
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to myself. So the stuff inside
my head comes out on the mike,
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but in real life, the stuff
in my head doesn't come out there.
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Oh yeah, it's just a mike. So I'm talking to myself. Oh
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yeah, and I and I definitely
know that because you know, I make
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a lot of like TikTok content YouTube, and like that's just me and a
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camera. So it's only when I'm
at a festival or out of show where
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I see, oh, there's actually
like people behind my phone right right,
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I'm just making everything in a vacuum. And then this is the cool moment
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when I get to meet someone's kid
who you know was a fan or whatever.
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But otherwise I'm like, oh,
I'm just oversharing and trauma dumping into
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myself right now. Right Because you
know, even with a big crowd like
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at Rock Oklahoma, when you're an
artist, when you get up on stage,
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like something happens in your brain that
you kind of tune out that you're
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talking to all these people, because
so many artists really are shy, but
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when they get on stage, there's
something that switches in the brain. Same
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for me, Like if I get
up on stage and I speaking or something,
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I look at all these people and
I'm not really thinking they're there.
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It's kind of like I'm just in
this zone. Playing live is probably the
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hardest thing for me, because I
think I had it took me years to
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get over being embarrassed because there's photos
and videos of you sounding off key,
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looking awkward. It's all my early
show videos. You can tell how self
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conscious I am. I'm fixing my
hair, I'm like all closed off,
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and then now I just have to, like, you know, I do
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my little stretches and I'm like,
I'm gonna pretend I'm the most badass right
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now, there you go, and
then just like let it happen. Yeah,
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And you know, I don't know
if you know this, but perfect
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example as James Hetfield Metallica, because
in the beginning he wouldn't come to the
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front. He was not a frontman. Yeah, and like he didn't even
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if you talk to him now,
he thinks he sucked at singing back then.
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So it's like he took a lot
of years to have the confidence in
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his abilities that you know, we're
our own worst critic. Oh yeah,
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And especially when you're playing these early
slots broad daylight, right, you know,
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in the sun, sweating and I
kind of am just thinking, oh,
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I can't wait till the day I
have a fog machine and lights behind
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me. Still little things, right, that's when when you don't have to
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zoom in and circle your name on
a poster because it's big enough to be
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read. You know, those are
like the little you know, highlights.
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I look forward to hopefully totally.
And then it's like, okay, so
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you're you're on stage doing this thing
and you notice all your screw ups,
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but the crowd doesn't, but you
think they all do, and they're looking
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at you and you're thinking, oh, they know I screwed up. I'm
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sure other musicians can tell, but
right, But luckily the things that I
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like, you know, I mess
up one part of the set, but
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I make it up by getting more
energy at the end. So when you
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kind of get used to it,
like I just played in the UK for
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the first time last weekend, so
we didn't get to do a warm up,
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sound check anything. We just went
straight into it. And now I
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know that, like, yeah,
whatever happens happens, and there's always another
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show you can be better and there
you go. So I always tell people
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to reach out to you, check
out all your stuff. Oh yeah,
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buy your merch, all that good
stuff. Well, I'm working on new
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merch because the new album is going
to start coming out in October, so
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matica dot com or at Mathica on
Instagram. And I'm really excited for Halloween
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because the whole album, I mean, it's always Halloween for me and my
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music right, But I'm definitely leaning
into that, and so it's going to
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be a very spooky next few months. So tell us more about the new
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albums. It's hard. I don't
know what to say about it. But
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oh, it's a visual album,
so I'm doing twelve music videos. Nice,
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so it's gonna be like kind of
like a short film or my version
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of one, you know. I
love it. I keep calling it the
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cheapest visual album ever because you can't
compare it to like Beyonce Lemonade or you
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know, these big budget things.
But right, sometimes though, the short
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budgets do the best. Yeah,
And I've just had this idea for so
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long and now I'm really like,
we just shot five of them and then
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we're about to finish it off.
So every song will have a video,
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which is super exciting to me.
I love that too, because I come
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from a time where like the music's
a full experience, you know. Yeah,
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and we've gotten too much to where
people just go through the tracks track
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track track rat I used to sit
with my headphones, look at the album
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cover, all the art, the
lyrics, any inserts like, and just
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studying the whole thing, and my
mind would take off on a journey somewhere
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else. I remember that viying CDs
and that's why I love designing album packaging.
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And I'm already like thinking it's funny
because I'm like most people maybe don't
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even have a record player, but
I'm like, I want to do like
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you know, the custom shaped ones, and like I love visual art,
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make a vinyl in the shape of
a moth. Yes, that'd be amazing.
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Yeah, there's so much fun.
And so I'm just finishing that and
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then so this is my last show
for the next like a couple months,
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and then you'll hear some new music
from me. I love it. Any
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final words you want to leave the
listeners with, I don't know. Stream
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Mathica for perfect skin and health.
Those are good words though, because like
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there's a buzz where I'm just gonna
do that just because I need health.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well
you are amazing artists. I'm so glad
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you were here at rocklaholmak for having
me again. It's always nice to talk
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to you, Always nice to have
you here. Thanks for being on the
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Adventures of pipe Man. Thank you, Thank you for listening to the Adventures
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