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Radio. And I'm here with our
next guest, who we talked to last

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year and we're talking to again this
year because there's some cool shit to talk

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about. So let's welcome to the
show. Jake from of Limbo. That

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is me. You know what's funny
is clean from and of together makes you

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hesitate? Yeah? Or the worst
is when you have to say of Limbo

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is the worst? Yeah, that
would be terrible. But I you saw

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me hesitate there because I was about
to say from a second time. It's

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I said from Oh it's so funny. You know the English language, you

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just never know sometimes yeo. So
I want to talk about something that's really

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cool here, and that is,
you know, basically a California Demon.

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What is that? California Demon is
our play on the old classic song the

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California Dream and song It's the basic
story behind a dude is wide eyed,

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innocent, young upstart that comes to
California with hopes and dreams of making it

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big and whatever different avenue that might
be, and then they sign their soul

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away for the exchange of fame and
fortune. But we you know you can

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take it. You can take it
as the literal sense, which is the

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actual signing on a flesh tablet to
the devil himself and losing your soul at

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the end of it, or you
can take it in the more metaphorical sense,

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which is the way that I would
normally have always believed it was,

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which is to sell away your integrity
like these pop stars do, or now

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now even more common than not,
these rock put togethers that I'm seeing more

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and more are doing where they they
basically sign on the dotted line to some

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record label, and then the record
label tells them exactly what songs they're gonna

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make. They get writers to write
the songs for them, and they put

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them in funding little outfits, and
then they hum and haw over the way

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that their social media posts go,
etc. And they end up being nothing

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but a puppet. So that's always
the way that I've taken that that sort

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of cliche to mean or trope to
mean. But there are people in America

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these days that absolutely believe the satanic
panic thing of it, and the record

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industry seems to be very much feeding
into that, with the Sam Smiths of

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the world doing these crazy satanic performances
at the Grammys. That's getting more and

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more prevalent. So our uncle happens
to believe absolutely that there's a real Satan

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and that everybody that's successful in the
world, be it actors or actresses or

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musicians or whatever, they're all actually
signing deals with a literal Satan. Don't

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know if I believe that, but
I'll tell you what. They're the elite,

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as Alex Jones would say, are
definitely getting up to the pretty weird

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stuff with all their bohemian grove parties
and all the rest of it. So

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I don't know where exactly on the
spectrum of it all island, but I

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certainly thought it was a very fun
topic story to tell in a rock and

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roll song. Yeah, well,
the elite, they're the Reptilians, aren't

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they. Yeah, who knows,
man, I don't know. I don't

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know how far down the rabbit hole
and every person goes. But yeah,

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there's the old reptilian thing, there's
the adren of chrome thing. And the

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reason that Angelina Jolie doesn't look so
good anymore is because her supply of baby

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blood has been reduced because Kay Junior
is stopping the adrene of chrome blood supply

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lines and all that. Yeah,
it goes pretty far down the rabbit hole

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if you want to. But I
would say I'm on the moderate side of

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how deep I dive into that stuff. Well, I go right back to

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the beginning what you said, because
I moved out to California, not of

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my choosing, but my dad brought
me out there in nineteen eighty. So,

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as you're right, you're right in
the middle of the satanic panic right

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there, then, dude, Right, So, as you can imagine,

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I was very evolved with that eighties
metal scene in La And as you can

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imagine, as you were saying that
stuff, I was. I was teleporting

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myself back to sitting backstage when a
lot of these hair metal bands were signing

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with the record labels, and the
record labels were saying I heard it with

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my own ears. Okay, you're
gonna dress like this, You're gonna play

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like this, this is what you're
gonna do, and we're gonna make you

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rich and famous. You'll have more
money than you could imagine. And I

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remember at that moment time I decided
the music industry was not the route I

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was going to take. At that
moment time, like, and my literal

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thing was because I've always had such
a passion for music and you know,

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I wanted to be in that scene
until that, and I was like,

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I am not wanting my soul for
money. And what I meant by that

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too, is like music was my
passion. So then, you know,

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as I became an adult, I
went in the business world and I sold

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my soul there, but that was
different because it wasn't my soul. It

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was you know, I was just
working opposed to trading my passion. Because

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the bomb line is, yeah,
is it nice for musicians like yourself to

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be able to make a living?
Yes, but at what cost? Yeah?

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Absolutely, And I think it's still
happening today in that sense. Dude.

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If you listen to the sort of
top metal pop metal charts these days,

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all of them are full of sense, and more and more of these

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bands are using backing tracks and stuff
like that. And even dude, even

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auto tuned vocals is happening. I'm
told by one of our sound engineer friends

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that they not only have backing tracks, they have big rack auto tuners as

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well as obviously having backing vocal tracks
as well. It's like, jeez,

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yeah, where do you draw the
line between it being a live performance and

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being a Milli Vanilli situation? Yeah, and you know, especially when it's

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live, okay. So I can
understand maybe sometimes in a studio to make

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things better, just like we're going
to record this and my engineer is going

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to edit to make it better.
But there's a difference between better and just

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changing it completely number one and number
two to live thing. So I go

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out on tour and I cover you
know, music festivals, and I just

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got back literally yesterday from one,
and this girl I was hanging with she

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says to me during one of the
band's performances, and she's like, is

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it just me or does it look
like his lips are not moving at the

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same time as the music? And
I'm like it's I'm like, it's not

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you, okay. And you know, I come from lead this time that

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you didn't do any of that crap
okay, you know, and now it's

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it's rather acceptable. I've heard a
bunch of artists like sit there and make

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it like it should be okay.
And there was even one scenario where there

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was a band performing a festival and
they literally delayed the show for twenty minutes

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because their backing tracks weren't working properly, and it's like, yeah, or

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Ronnie Radkey, who's always in the
headlines, handled the headlining festival set because

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they had their laptops stolen, right, But of myself, I can't remember

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last time I used my laptop for
live performance. But if they need five

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fucking laptops to be going at the
same time, there's definitely a hell of

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a lot of stuff going on.
But I mean his response to that was

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that they have all these synth parts
and extra parts, and if they were

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to actually do it live on stage, sure they could, but it would

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be twenty five people on stage and
that doesn't make a lot of sense.

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I guess my unless you're slipnot yeah, if you're. If you're if your

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music is infused with that many crazy
layers of digital stuff like sense and stuff

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like that, I don't know.
It's maybe just not my taste, to

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my taste and my cup of tea. But hey, I'm I'm in the

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band of Limbo. I'm not in
the band Falling in Reverse. And I'll

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tell you what, Ronny Radkey and
Falling in Reverse are doing a damn site

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better on the monetary and the things
than of Limbo is right now. So

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I shouldn't be throwing stones in his
glass house, you know, well,

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you know, but I love what
you say because you're altruistic to the music

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and you know, like I was
saying before, So if you need that

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many components in the band, then
you know you'd be a Slipknot. You

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have nine people in your band,
you know. Yeah, I mean,

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I deeply love Slipknot. And they're
not playing the backing tracks. They got

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that what's his name's star scream the
DJ. Yeah, he's he's doing it

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all live. He's triggering, triggering
samples, obviously, but that's what a

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DJ does in a band. He's
doing all his scratching and all that cool

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shit. And the other great thing
about them is that when shit five of

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the members aren't playing a part in
a certain thing, they're doing all crazy

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shit like shirking off their noses and
doing front flips into the crowd and whatever

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else. But yeah, I mean
slip Not is one of the all time

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great live performance Zacson Metal totally so. And that goes along with what you're

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saying, because that person you were
just talking about talked about, you know,

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I'm performing a live show. Well, slip knots also performing a live

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show, you know. But yeah, well slip Knot isn't Corey Taylor.

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The way that falling in reverse is
Ronnie Radkey. So that he had the

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twenty five people on the stage,
I think he wouldn't like that very much

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because any extra people on the stage, the necessary is another person to look

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at other than him. And I
think he's pretty into the eye all eyes

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on me kind of scenario. Well
that's probably that's probably true of a lot

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of those hours out there too,
right, And and you're so right,

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Corey Taylors. It's pretty humble actually, you know, which is why he

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does all. Yeah. I do
I not to shit on Roddy rad Key

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at all, because I do love
that the guy has opinions about things and

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he's not afraid to express them.
But I mean, Corey Taylor is also

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one of those those guys too that
will abundantly clearly state his opinion displikee who

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it might upset and yeah, yeah
let him let him rip boys. That's

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my favorite, no doubt. So
yeah, I was loving when I saw

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this song. I was just loving
the whole concept of it because it just

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goes about everything I believe in and
don't believe in all at once. Yeah.

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I love that. It's very much
a spectrum of different uh reactions from

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people. We sent it to our
to our conspiracy theory uncle, and we

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thought he was gonna love it because
he's like I thought he'd be like fall

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finally, finally, you guys are
exposing the elite. But it was actually

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the opposite reaction problems. He goes, you guys are you guys are headed

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down a very dark path? And
know that I love you. I love

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you both, but know this,
I love Jesus Christ infinitely more. Come

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on, now, you come on
right, That's that's not what it's about.

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It's about us, us telling a
story involve blah. And he's like,

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okay, well, let me focus
group into twelve of my friends.

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And my brother's like, oh wait, the twelve apostles. So that's the

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twelve of his buddies that are on
the on the Christian pal Talk or whatever

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the hell it is, and uh, we get. He sends us back

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screenshots of their reactions and some of
them were absolutely hilarious. It's like,

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oh wow, just another another shitty
grunge band. I can't even understand the

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lyrics. And one of them was
actually very positive. They were like they

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sort of got it. They're like, wow, finally someone's exposed. Someone

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in music is finally exposing the Hollywood
pedophile, satanic luciferian elite or something like

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that. And then my uncle,
of course, I lead them down the

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Is that really what you think?
Or is it maybe that they are trying

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to fan the flames of it?
And I'm like, well, god,

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whatever, you can't win them all. But hey, if if people are

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having a strong reaction to it one
way or the other, then that's exactly

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what we want exactly. And you
know what, when this song makes it

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big, your Uncle's gonna be even
more convinced, yes, exactly that,

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then I will. It'll be a
self fulfilling prophecy we were we were gonna

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go go through with like a photoshoot
of doing all the like Illuminati hand signs

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and six six over the eye and
all that kind of stuff. I was

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gonna send them those, but we
did end up having too much ship going

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on with this crewmador show we had
and this big massive release party we did

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for the for this first screening of
it, So that's that's a cool story

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itself. We have this bar next
to our house, which is a bit

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of a blessing and a curse.
But out front of the bar there's this

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gigantic billboard that's only about maybe ten
feet off the ground. So on the

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premier Your Night, we climbed up
that mofo down the back of it with

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a big old ladder and we hung
a couple of huge white curtains down.

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It's got ourselves an l chipa projector
from Amazon for like one hundred and sixty

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bucks, brought out our PA system, and we had all a friends rock

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out as we pulled up the van
illegally onto the turf in front of it.

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All our friends come out and we
had a big old screening of it

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for the first time, blasting it
on the illegally taken over billboard. It's

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pretty rad. That does sound cool. That guerrilla marketing. That is what

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the whole music scene is about,
right there. That's what I loved about

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the LA scene, you know,
beck, when before I didn't love it

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was that kind of stuff and you
know, flyers on every telephone pole and

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just you know, fans just going
out there and making a name for themselves.

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Absolutely taking control of your own desk, and that's that the way to

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do. We certainly have gone that
route for a while, but yeah,

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you know, things have shifted more
and more into the social media game.

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Unfortunately, old Zuckerberg, Motherfuckerberg is
taken more and more control of it all,

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and he's very aware that yeah,
pain pain for eyes on your stuff

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is the name of the game now
and that's how they make all their revenues.

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So we've had to play that game
a little bit more recently as well

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to get to get eyes on stuff. But you know what, it's at

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least at least getting them the right
way. It's an unfortunate reality that we

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have to give Zuckerberg anything more than
a penny, but yeah, we have

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to run those ads through Facebook et
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and d drawn new eyes into us
otherwise just not happening in any other way

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these days. Well how about now
that for both Facebook and Instagram you pay

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to be a celebrity. Oh yeah, I mean that's exactly the same thing

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to a much lesser extent. But
I mean, if you look at the

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the machine Gun Kelly's of the world, and you look at any any big

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movie that's coming out, you don't
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movie or a clip of the music
video or something. It's just all of

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a sudden, one day you're just
blasted with machine Gun Kelly, this machine

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Gun Kelly, that, oh him
and whatever her name is, Megan Fox

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might be breaking up, oh him
and Megan Fox like Kinky Sachs. Oh

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what the world thinks of machine Gun
Kelly, blah blah, And you know

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what that is, dude, it's
not it's not because oh, all at

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once, there's all these really interesting
stories about machine Gun Kelly that the algorithm

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thinks I'm interested in. No,
it's a fucking pr company has been paid

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ass loads of money to do a
huge media buy for machine Gun Kelly and

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just get his name out there so
that people are thinking about that little dick

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head again, and then sure enough, two weeks later, Oh Machine Gun

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Kelly released as this new single,
and the fucking public has been primed waiting

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for whatever is next from him to
sell to us, no doubt, no

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doubt. Yeah, well, you
know it's good that we still have ultruistic

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musicians like you that are making just
badass music. How do people connect with

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you guys on socials that we're talking
about that and anywhere else the web,

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buy your merch all that good stuff. So we're not one of these elitist

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bands or artists that don't respond to
fans. We absolutely love interacting with people

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in the comments section, the dms, whatever. But our new greatest way,

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because of like I said, Mark
motherfucker Berg screwing us on the algorithm,

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the newest best way is we've started
a mailing list. We call it

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the of Limbo Party. So if
you want to join the of Limbo Party

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kind of like a political party,
slash one tandra of having a rock and

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roll party with us. If you
want to join that, just hit our

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website of limbo dot com and there
should be a pop up to join the

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mailing list and you'll keep up to
date with all of the new and wonderful

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things that we are gassing into this
world. Nice, and you guys are

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so real that you literally did actually
set Luke's guitar on fire while we played

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there. We actually literally did let
his guitar on fire. Yeah, that

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was the only way to do it, dude. If you if you did

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some kind of special digital effects on
that, it just sort of looked lame.

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So we Yeah, we bought a
PLS guitar from Facebook marketplace for thirty

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bucks and we spray painted it black
because it had all these lame kmart roses

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with barbed wire all over it and
stuff. Spray painted it black, brought

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it out front of our house,
he held it. We doubted it in

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some some lighter fluid, did a
couple of test runs. We're like,

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Okay, this shit's gonna work.
But the first place we shot the video,

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there are like absolutely no flames under
any circumstances. So I had to

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dip into the old back pocket and
find my buddy who I used to work

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with years ago as studio out in
Santa Anna. He said he was going

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to be away that weekend. We
had car Blanche to do whatever he wanted,

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so We went into the back of
his studio and let shit on fire

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over and over again until we got
enough takes of it. But the final

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take of it was like, Okay, we're not doing that again, because

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every time I would I would do
a take with him, he'd like he'd

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be like, Okay, that was
good, but more ghastly in this time,

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more lighter fluid, more lighter fluid, and I was like, oh

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god, this is getting pretty sketchy
now. And then the final take of

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it, he asked him to put
so much of it on him that it

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started creeping up his suit jacket arm
about to hit his hair. I had

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to run in with a wet blanket
and cover him. We didn't do a

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full stop dropping roll situation, but
it was pretty close. Wow, let's

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see that's metal. Yeah. I
love it. I love it. I

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love the new song. Everybody's got
to check it out. And thanks a

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lot for being on the Adventures of
Pike Man. Hey, thanks for having

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me brother. Thank you for listening
to the Adventures of Pike Man on W

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four CUI Radio.