PipemanRadio Interviews Redlight King at Aftershock 2023

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here on the Adventure of pipe Man
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here with Cash Mark Julian from the
rock band Red Light King. And so

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what about your music now, I'm
just playing pipe with them? Man,

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tell us about our music Ghost Bang
Boom. So did you get your band

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name because you were hanging out in
Amsterdam Red Light Hey, it's where we

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should go with that. Well,
let's just go with that. That should

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be your new thing. You know. It's rug District Reli King. Yes,

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you're the King all stuff. Yeah, of okay, fucking Aftershock though,

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man, Okay, last time I
saw you was at this other festival

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I won't name. But how you
fucking love Aftershock though? Oh? Solid?

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Yeah, for sure. It's great, great crowd, great great venue,

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good good staff and also just a
great collaboration of artists. We get

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to see so many people, so
many friends that we don't normally see.

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So and then they're all hanging out
like cause, free drinks, Yeah,

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free drinks, freak drink bar.
And do you know there's a chef to

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be serving food in a little while? Yeah, Mark Knowles. What do

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you can order? They're cooking up
some pizza right now. I think pizza,

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tacos and hamburgers, and they got
like carne of sada tacos, cauliflower

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tacos, fish tacos and chicken tacos
and hungry. Last time, I think

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it's so it's Chris Santo's Yes,
and he's obviously a fantastic chef. Last

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time, yeah, Chopped. If
you know the show Chopped, he's on

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it all the time. Last time
he was doing ribs. What I forget

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what festival we were on, but
he was back there and he was doing

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ribs. Louder than Life, Yeah
it was. Yeah, it's fantastic.

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We're really lucky. We're lucky.
That's all so louder than life After Shock,

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Which one did you like better?
I'm not gonna say which one I

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like better. I'll tell you what
they are all. The dam was warmer,

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that's true. Here was pretty hot. Main stage are louder. Well,

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there you go. That was kind
of fun. But this stage was

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fun too, I'll be honest with
you. It's kind of cool vibe too,

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with the park and the trees and
all that. I like the vibe

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for sure. People there and get
some shade under the trees here. It's

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not just all you know. That's
what a lot of people were doing,

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like on our stage, hiding under
the trees. And you know over vip

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here they have all the trees are
there and picnic benches. You just hang

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out on the picnic bench chill and
you got a great view from there too.

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But I like being in the pit. People watching for sure. Oh

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yeah, people watching it. These
are awesome. You know what I noticed

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the most in the pit yesterday corn
and not the band corn corn. People

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in corn out corn. Yeah,
people in cornering the cob out thing.

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Because you get it with the like
E lookte on it at the end of

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the cheese or the butter. Yeah, I get it. Okay, you

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know it's either corner or banana in
the pit. Yeah, that's yeah,

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that's weird. Yeah, there are
some characters. Yeah, but that's what's

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that, What's that's what makes it
special. It's funny because last night I

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was standing on the stage for Turnstile
and the only thing I could notice was

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the banana in the pit. I
mean like that's that was the only thing

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that stood out? Did the banana
in the pit? Was I'm missing something?

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He had the banana? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Now that

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would have been like, I think
you a moshed that and late afternoon on

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a banana costume and going out into
the pit and they gotta give it up

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for that guy. I've come.
You can always see Waldough at the festival.

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You can't find Waldo in the books, but you can see him manifest.

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Oh he's here somewhere for sure,
definitely somewhere. So what's going on

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after after Chuck? Wow, We're
gonna do some writing and uh we were

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putting out some acoustic versions of songs
that we have, like we put out

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in Our Blood and I had to
heard which is another song on our new

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record that yeah we're doing. We
did like an acoustic things. It's totally

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different the way left field and uh, you know we we uh we like

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it. Sometimes we just look at
each other, and I'm like, dude,

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this sounds like a different song,
but it's it's still true to it.

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Well, that's it cool as an
artist to like be able to do

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something different for change, you know, and like mix it up a little

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bit. Yeahs as like sometimes you
think when you record a song, that's

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it for the rest of its life
and its existence. But you know,

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basically what inspired is that when we
play live, we call a lot of

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audibles. We changed sections, we
change arrangements. We've lengthd in solos or

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moved songs around sometimes play them in
different keys, different tempos. And I

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thought, well, let's just reimagine
a bunch of songs on this record.

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It also shows the strength of the
song itself because you can you can rap

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a song any way you like it, in different genres, different sounds.

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The song is fundamentally solid and has
a good melody and a good lyric and

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it's it's definitely got a chance to
be well presented any any way you like

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it. I often right now,
just with either a piano or a guitar,

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And if it doesn't stand up,
why put anything around it? Yeah,

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under process where we're at, and
maybe I'm doing it wrong. I

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don't know. I know, I
think you're one hundred percent right, you

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know, because and I think too, like, as an artist, don't

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you want to express yourself in different
ways? Like why do you want write

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the same song over and over again? And I think it's the reinvention is

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interesting. It's an interesting play because
like hip hop guys remixed their own songs.

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Yeah, they get a DJ or
a different producer to put a different

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beat behind their shit. So I
was like, well, that's that's also

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kind of what inspired like why not. Yeah, generally Rockeyes will do an

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acoustic version, but our our newer
versions aren't just acoustic. It's a different

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arrangement. Is it's got different sounds, different field, different vibe, And

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you know what you were talking about
the live aspect. That's what I like

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in watching live band. There's bands
I could watch a million times, and

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then there's other bands that I like
them live, but doing all these festivals,

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I'll see him like ten times in
the year and I'm like, I

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was just out there there night.
I won't say which band, but one

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band, the girls with I kept
saying what the guy was gonna say on

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stage? And you know, a
band's like that script, right, script,

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And she's like, how do you
know? How do you know what

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he was gonna say? I'm like, it's the same thing I've heard for

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five years now, so I know
I actually know what you're talking about.

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I'm sure I absolutely do. Uh. Here's the thing though, with with

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our good friend cast here, you
never know what's gonna come out of his

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mouth. I love that, seriously. Sometimes we'll walk off stage and be

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like, did you just say that? Like not a bad way, It's

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just like every day he'll tell stories, he'll be up there, you know,

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give him background as a song.
What's funny about that? When I

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was interviewing Jordan from Bringing Me to
Horizon, he was like, yeah,

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we're kind of scared sometimes because we
never know what Ali's gonna say right exactly.

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But that's part of the fun.
Yeah, you know, because I

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get it. I get what happens
after you know, if you've been on

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tour for a long time, you're
playing, say the same set, or

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maybe you try to switch it up
a little bit, and eventually you fall

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into similar pattern. So like all
that worked or that didn't. So I

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kind of get it, and that
makes sense to me. But at the

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same time, there are other bands
that have it like Scared, Like it's

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almost like it's on the prompter.
Oh yeah, I don't ever want to

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be on authentic And that's that's it. Like I just like, I have

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an idea of what I'm gonna say, but then that usually changes during the

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stuff. Well that's keeps it,
keeps it real for me. You'll never

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see me with script or notes or
anything like, because it takes a life

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of its own. Every experience is
different, right, Yeah, so today

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today I wasn't perfect, but I
I didn't say anything. I didn't mean

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you know what I mean. I
felt it felt good, like but you

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I think our music is speaks for
itself, and so a lot of times

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I'm trying to get out of the
way. I don't want to confuse the

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message. And everyone has their own
message and experience with our music. A

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lot of people were at a certain
time in their life or you know,

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a lot of people play like old
man at their dad's funeral, or they

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play pulling my hand because they got
out of recovery, or there's there's a

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something people share in it. I
don't want to ruin that for him either.

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Yeah, because that's the key to
a good song, by the way.

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You know, you write it authorically
from your perspective, but when somebody

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else in the crowd can put their
own perspective to it, you know,

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I think generally these days, I'm
we're all pretty light hearted. We we

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we know, we've been doing this
a long time. We were doing this

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because we love it. We're not, you know, in it for money

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or you know, well, you'd
be an idiot if you didn't like it,

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you were doing it for money.
Nowadays, well, I think I

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think there's a way to monetize music
in a way that it becomes the focus,

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especially now in a digital age.
There are like I don't I don't

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spend a lot of time on socials, but a lot of people say that's

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the only that's the key, and
that's the only way to become something in

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this business. And that frustrates a
guy like me who comes from the heart

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and finds that experience for me a
bit. Uh, well, nothing's real

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on social it's not real. Redundant. Yeah, now I want to,

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I would love to. Sometimes I
find something very authentic and I share that

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on social media, and then it
becomes real for me. So I'm still

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trying to find that thing that I
connect with so that everyone can connect and

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find our music. Do you mean
you're not doing tiktoks? I'm not,

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but I'm not afraid to do it. I just haven't found my thing.

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Like I don't dance, but I
know, like I put our song up

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me Ryan and Old Harley with Cold
Killer playing, and it got some views

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on TikTok because you go a lot
of guys like Harley and I got a

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lot of guys like rock and roll. There it is. I don't know.

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I think the key like on TikTok
as an example, is just doing

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stupid shit that maybe isn't even related
to your music type of thing. You

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never know what's gonna work now.
It's like you have no idea whether or

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not somebody's can connect going to connect
with one thing or the other. So

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you just try to stay I don't
know, just as honest and uh,

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just focus on what you want to
hear and what do you want to do.

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I think more than any other industry, you need to be honest.

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In this industry. People can tell. I can see on stage whether somebody's

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being authentic and if they're loving it. And that's their passion, or if

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they're just up there doing it,
oh for sure, for sure you can

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see immediately and I'll walk away.
I want a good live show, and

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I like when you mix it up
different arrangements because then I'm like, oh,

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I don't want to miss this set. Who knows what's gonna happen right

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where? It's like some it's like, well, yeah, I'll hang back

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here, Mabia. I already know
what's gonna happen, you know, And

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I don't think there's any rules about
I agree with you, first of all,

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but I I mean, you see, there's lots of bands, any

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band that can get out and be
on stage night after night, day after

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day. However they do it whether
or not it's you know, they have

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a script that they don't or you
know. I tend to gravitate towards the

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more authentic performances. But I don't
give anyone any shade about being up.

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Just the fact that they're doing it
alone is hard enough. I agree,

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because it's hard. I just respect
all the bans that are able to make

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a living or just go out and
sleep. A whole business is hard,

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you know, Like my heart goes
out to every artist because man, especially

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the new ones, especially younger bands. Man, it's it's a different world.

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But you got to do today.
Like you know, it's not like

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some record labels saying here, exactly, go party fellas, We're gonna make

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you rich exactly exactly. You gotta
work your ass off and that's what I

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respect about you. Guys. Are
any artists nowadays? You're you're doing it.

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You're working your ass off, and
man, you guys rocking. I'm

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so happy you're here it after show, Oh, we appreciate you. Man,

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that's awesome. There any other final
words? You need to leave the

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listeners with our stuff? You want
to tell them we haven't covered yet.

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You know, we're thankful after all
these years I've known Kaz, I've been

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playing with Kaz for over twenty years
now. Wow, the fact that I'm

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still out here coming to festivals like
Aftershock and being able to play to people

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and see people sing along, that's
it's insane, And you know it's it's

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hard, right, but it's it's
not an easy gig. But you know,

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to come out and be able to
do it again and continue to do

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it to blow your mind too,
that you like been doing it for twenty

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years, I don't I don't like
doing right. That does I'm sure like

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twenty years, but sometimes it feels
like forty. Love it well, Thanks

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guys, and thanks for being on
the Adventures of pipe Man. Thank you,

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