PipemanRadio Interviews Saving Abel at Welcome To Rockville 2025

0:04 Hey, you love then too? Yes, that's true. W Wow, where you. Your Welcome to Rockville, North America's largest rock festival is finally here. This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four c Y Radio, and I'm here with Hey. My name is Jared Weeks from Saving Abel. And I'm Dave Marna from Saving Abel. Nice. Okay, I have to make one comment right off the bat. I was on ship Rocked doing an interview with Winston from Parkway Drive. Oh wow, And do you know that he. Has a tattoo of wapple House.

0:44 Oh that's amazing. Yes, And somehow it came up in the interview about waffle House out of Lohat I can't remember how Holy Grail and he's like, yes, when we come over to us, we have to go wapple House all the time. And then he shows me his tattoo, like, oh my god. I didn't have the heart to tell him that sometimes the Americans look at waffle House is like, man, that's the place you go when you're highest fuck at two am and there's nowhere else to go. But here's the thing. They're consistent. They will not. Let you down exactly exactly. That's what we love as Americans A consistency. It is, Yeah, there, it is there, it is. So I was laughing while I saw your hat saying waffle house.

1:26 Oh there you go, man, that's I love it. And there's I think fifty two of them just around the raceway Georgia, around the raceway itself. Wow, I know way about every one dollar General. If you drive ninety five all the way north, you'll hit lots of waffle houses. Nice, you have your choice waffle house or cracker barrel off of every. Accent waffle house every time there you go, see time. And see the person taking pictures there. Nicole, she's from Canada and she wants to go see what waffle house. Is all already tells she he's the nicest person I've ever met. Canadians because she's not American. I think that goes because we're a bunch of jerk offs now about it. To be honest, I asked before in the interview, if they could just eliminate all of us, stop fucking around, and get rid of us because we're a bunch of fucking jerkoffs.

2:20 They can just take us all out, or. We're consistent at being that too. So I love it that you got to play in like the hottest state in the United States in direct sunlight. How cool was that? I honestly didn't want to be anywhere else. Man. In fact, in the contract that we signed with Welcome to Rockville, we told them, we requested that we were not gonna play at all unless we were directly underneath the sun. And here we are sweating our balls off out here having a good time. Man. I always wonder when bands that wear like heavy stuff or even like wary, Oh god, how they survive that.

3:03 Welcome to rock Bray. Have no idea because when we just played, when we just it was so hot, It's like walking through a bowl of warm oatmeal, right, Like it's hard to breathe. And I'm like, Jesus, I'm already too. I thought I prepared for that. You don't let yourself really feel it when you're on stage because you're in the zone. And then me, I'm like, surprised you're here for interviews now, because right afterwards I'd be like, fuck this, it's time to die. They did give us a cool down period, so yeah, we're here, dude. It was so hot up there today. Though I loved it though, because all those people just standing out there underneath the sun. They're hotter than we aren't, right, they were so alive today. Well think about that for a second. It's Thursday, first day, you know, it's a workday, school day, whatever or BM and they're fucking hot as shit and they are standing out there sardine at your show and Mash.

3:56 Honestly, that's something that I'm still grateful for you because without this, none of this would even be possible. We love it, dude. I loved the dedication because I'm a decade fan and like last week I was at Sawing Temple and I didn't have to do any interviews because there were no interviews there, so I'm like, cool, I can enjoy shit. And then okay, I'm wearing a shirt that we were talking about before the interview. Exodus A Exus came on and it was midday and the bands before Exodus people are like, you could go in and pay. I'm like, it's too fuck it hot, man, I gotta survived the rest of the day. But then Exus came on and everything's okay, all. Bets are off. Dat Gibson was at our show watching today man, the bass player as so wild. I its human beings I've ever met, dude.

4:37 My best friend, how's that feel when banned? It's not only at your show at a festival, but like gets out of the tour bus at early to come to your show. And it reminds me of being seventeen years old, of having the dream of being a musician standing in front of ten thousand people at one o'clock and welcome to Rockville in Florida. Like those guys that inspired me to be here. I think it's awesome that some of them come and see our shows and pay respect like that. Like Lejahn from seven Dust, No matter where we are, he always comes, man, and I'm seven Dust for life, so it never bothers me that he's there. Man. We love those. Guys, and I do want to say something to people, like it's not like days anymore, but everybody always comes to me. He's like, oh, man, can you bring me backstage and take me side stage? I'm like, it actually sucks side stage. It's like it's cool the first time, but the sounds all you really hear is muffled drums.

5:31 And honestly, I think it's more about perspective. From the side stage, right, we look from the artist. It is cool, but you're right. It does so. And my point is so like normoy, when I'm out there, like I'm out front, I'm hanging with a bunch of my artist friends, because all the artists love to go in front. Yep, they don't want to be side stage. Yeah, we're fans too, That's what people I realize, And I think that's more true in metal rock and punked than any other. You know, you wouldn't be a metal head. Musician if you were in it for whatever other reason besides metal.

6:12 It's about the craft. It's like when people say to me, like call me people in real life outside here, and they're like, I used to like metal. I'm like, then you did not like metal? Yeah, those words do not come out of a metal head's mouth. Like, I don't care what stage I'm at, what I'm doing, listen. I'm also a motivational speaker, you know what I use to pump myself up to go do my seminar. What's that slayer? Yes, that's awesome, And people think that's weird. I'm like, you have no idea my fucking adrenaline. Like I'm like ready to think I'm the fucking world. Well Death comes in and you're I'm ready to go through any part of traffic period.

6:56 And I just found out something new about Slayer recently, and I went to her first show ever and I've seen him like thousands of times. I was interviewing Gene Hoagland from Dark Angel and Testament and Death Clock and all that. The other day, Dark Angel has a new song. They were one of my favorite bands, as you can see on my battle vest. That's my eighties battle vest. Okay, it looks seasoned. It's better than that. Oh sick Okay. So for some reason, I found right before the interview this little tidbit that. I never knew. And I hung out with all. Those people back then, Like I used to hang out with Don Dodie, which was the original singer of Dark Angel way back when. But I hung out with Slayer, Metallic and all them, like we were all just teenager right.

7:40 And turns out Evil has no boundaries. The first song on show, No Mercy, the first album, he's doing background vocals. Wow, I was like that. I found that out like right before the interview. I'm like, holy fuck. So I had to talk to him a out because I'm like, fuck, I didn't even know that we were hanging out back then. You're talking about Slayer. Dude, you know what song that I used to pump me up? And I can't believe, Like, growing up, I'd never heard of this song. I'm new to this song, but it's Breathing Lightning by Anthrax. Yeah, that's a great song, and that's one of their newer songs. It's one of their newer songs too. It's badass. I love it. It's like you said, it makes you blood pumpy. That song doesn't for me. Bro, there he goes everything. Man, how about you? What song does it for you?

8:25 Oh boy? Oh god, we'll be here for hours. Oh no, probably as at the moment, probably finish him by cattle decapitation. Oh okaynd fun they're a fun show. Yeah they're sick, dude. I love Death not a man. It's a great band when they have a name like that. Yeah, no cows were harmed in the making of this show, of course. Yeah, we have to make sure that let of people know. But you know, it's like back in the day, that's the only way you knew music was either they look cool or I had a cool name. Yeah, and then you went to their show and. Then you get the experience and you're like, whoa, yeah. Oh it happened to me. Okay. So I was into music since I'm little, but when I really truly got into the scene.

9:06 I'm from New Jersey. My dad moved me to California in nineteen eighty. Good year, good year, Yes, sir. So my first club show ever in my life was at the Roxy on the Sunset Strip. Oh wow. It was this band that. They didn't even have an album yet and they were lighting everything on fire to bring satan into the Roxy. It was gone. It was Motley Through before they had an album. Almost said that before they had an album. Before they that's cool. I won't say what I would say after that, but before they became hair metal, glam both they were like horror.

9:50 Punk at the time. Oh cool and oh my god. I remember coming out her. I'm like, I'm never going to a real concert ever again. Man, that club show is such amazing experience show, right, Yeah, the Roxy, the fucking Roxy. Man we were when I was singing with Hinder, we did some Motley Cruse show dates and I it was the loudest concert I've ever been to in my life. It was so loud it had me looking over my shoulder paranoid, like wow, seriously, was like, oh my god, there were so many people. But dude, it's crazy, Like I don't do really well sensory with loud things. Yeah, dude, I had to go back. Might be in the wrong music John by the way, Oh, that totally cool.

10:33 Totally. It was one of the most amazing experiences I've ever got to be a part of. Man, it's seeing Motley Crue league Nick Mars up there, Nikki City. Dude, it was amazing. Yeah. I used to hang out with Mike at the mall. Oh cool, Mick at the mall. And then it's like funny, like I go back to Rainbow now, I'm like, how the fuck did I get in there at fifteen years old? Oh yeah, that's right, the period walk in with Motley Crue and meet up with Lemmy and Ron Jeremy at the fucking Rainbow at fifteen. You know, Ron Jeremy's a character. We met, Oh my god, to man big the. Chicks that were around in Oh my god, I had so much overflowed from Motley grew and Ron, Jeremy and Lemmy back in the day as a teenage boy.

11:13 Dude, he does it in sweatpants and crocs. It's amazing. But you're right. I saw her on Jeremy and I walked up to him and I said, Man, I believe I've seen yours more than I have mine. I don't think you can miss his. Man. I think his is bigger than Blowthart teenage boys. Man, oh man. So what got you guys into doing this stuff? Because it's certainly not to become a rock star or for money. When I first started, I saw Kenny Wayne Sheppard play. He's one of my favorite I interviewed him. Actually, dude, I'm so jealous. I love coolest shit. I was seventeen years old and it was at the Mid South Fair in Memphis, and I saw like his energy above the crowd, like how he could control them with just the note of his guitar. Right, and being seventeen years old and feeling that feeling and seeing it happened with one of my favorite artists, I was like, that's what I want to do, Like I want to be a part of something like that, something bigger than myself. Because when you got the fans there, they'd put this energy up, but to watch him control it the entire show, it blew my mind, dude. And seventeen years old, I said, I want to do that, and you.

12:26 Know what, I love too. Okay, So instead of what was in the eighties where I remember when I first started again to Slayer and they're like, okay, all my friends were like, okay, you got burn all your Motley Cruise shit. Man, fuck that you can't. You can't listen to any When you were a Slayer fan, you pretty much couldn't listen to anything but Slayer type of things. Yeah, exactly. And you would be a show at the Troubadours or at the country Club in Mesida, and if somebody walked in wearing a Motley Cruise shirt, you ripped it off their back, threw it up to Tom and he would burn it on stage. Oooh, Exodus burns same thing like their shirts and Tom around his hands. Yep, yep, hair metal bands, Yep, totally. That's funny. And so I love to hear you talk about kay Wayne Shepherd while you're wearing a Garth Brooks shirt playing that playing at rock the Rockville Man, I was born in Mississippi.

13:15 Man, I ain't too far out of my own, you know, growing up with Klay Walker and Garth Brooks and all that. But uh, I find that being yourself, an authentic to yourself. Makes it just to ride it for everybody. If you're into music, you're not into just one music. Were so stupid. To hide what you like and as long as a good song, I love that. Today you could be at a festival like Welcome to Rockville and I have all kinds of genres playing here and everybody would be down with it. I'm just glad that they showed up like they did. Man, it was crap. I didn't even have to really sing addicted. They did it like of course I was hot as shit. Yeah, it's like but yeah, but they dude, it was so loud. I could hear it through my in ears, Like you.

13:56 Don't want to have that, Yeah, I can't normally hear it through those things. It got me excited, bro, I'm like, let's do this man. I love it here, dude, So what did it for you? Originally I was about thirteen, I guess, and I don't watch football or anything, but I saw the Who playing the halftime show on Wow. Yeah, who it was Zach Starky. I thought you were going to say, Scott Staff flying in Dallas Cowboy. Oh it's how about they're different. I've interviewed the guests who actually yeah. Yeah, but I saw them play the halftime show and the lasers with the clear drums. I thought that was like the sickest thing ever, like seeing all that stuff.

14:37 And then after that, I just I found that music was just I don't know, it was like my therapeut. Yeah, it was like kind of it is therapy for all of us. I could figure it out. It was like a puzzle. It kept me busy. I didn't get into trouble like I think. That's the reason people are so depressed pits and all from COVID because we had no live music. There was no outlet. There was nothing to get rid of the darkness. Nope at all. All share it. Yeah, no doubt we got through it. COVID was actually a good time for me. I got to look inward and work on myself. It's funny you should mention that because one of the things I said a lot after COVID during their reviews is I felt like COVID was great for artists because you could finally jump off the hamster wheel and get creative again.

15:20 You know. Instead you're like writing a song with a deadline from one gig to another and you don't give a shit because you have to finish it. Get in gig mode and then in studio move For some people, yeah, those people like it's all about the vibe. They are two different modes for sure, yep. And then like you could take your time, like back in the day you made music and you had to literally you sat there and created. You didn't just make something real quick and jump it out, and you had cycles, had cycles. You made an album, you went on tour, You made an album, you went on tour. It wasn't do both at the same time. And you make two albums too while you're at it.

16:01 We had a situation like that with the label when we were first signed for the second album with Miss America. We had two months off to go in a studio and wrap the album, and I thought that was great, but they started booking gigs in between, so it's like hard to switch in and out for us. I get you. I don't know people listening can get this flu but they are two different mindsets, two different vibes, And I think you really do have to focus when you're writing, like seriously writing a song on posted just putting shit out. Yeah, And sometimes if you're just doing shows all the time, like you need a day to coming home and decompress, and if you're decompressed in the studio while.

16:41 Trying to create, it does affect what you're you're out. It's funny you should say that, because I was mentioning the interview earlier. Because I go into where I do all the festivals in the US, UK, Europe, and when I get home, like after Rockville, I have four days at home before I go to Vegas for prop rock Balling, and I'm gonna fucking sec and nobody's going to see me and leave me the fuck alone. But when I'm out here, I'm like, mister extrovert. If people don't understand artists are not extroverts just because they're up on stage nice. And say as a joke, sometimes it's like I'm an introvert. They pay me to be an extrovert. That's a good way to put it. It's so true. And I think people also don't realize when you're up on stage.

17:22 You go into his zone. So it's an out of buy experience. It's not really those people are out there and it's funny to tell me if you've had this. So my daughter, when she was like twelve, we were at seminar where one of the co authors of Chicken Soup books. Was one Soul or whatever. There's all kind for all every soul, andptis sorry, there you go. Mark Victor Anson calls my daughter on stage to promote my book. And it was out of nowhere. It wasn't like plan. And she went up and she was the shyest person you ever wanted to meet. And she went up there and I'm like, holy shield it, where did that come? Oh? She killed it?

18:04 I was like, where did that come from? And so when she came down, like who hurt? Did that happen? She go and she goes because I didn't know anybody here, and that there's a good thing. Like you're looking out into that crowd and maybe there's some people you know, but yeah, you really don't know anybody, know anybody. So it's like talking to a bunch of objects, yeah, in a sense, or singing to a bunch of obisodes. To me, a lot of times you are right, you're in the zone ten minutes before a show. Don't talk to me like I'm in my head focused on and I'm going over the things that we've worked on and things like that. But I told Dave today. I told him last night before we got on stage today and I reminded him, but I told him, I said, do me a favor, And at some point in the show tomorrow, I said, just take a deep breath, and I said look out and absorb what you're seeing and feeling.

18:54 And I did a lot of touring earlier, and I wasn't always present in the moment, like being drunk or high or whatever. And to me these days, being present in the moment is one of the things that. I love to be. I love hearing that. I wanted him to see it because he hasn't he's been with us like four years. But like an experience like this is extreme in the middle of the Daytona International Speedway, you're driving on the track, right, But it was just a really cool experience. And I did that today and just the looks on people's faces to know like we're all here for the same reason. Yeah, and I am you are me. I love You're not the same people. That's it.

19:38 And to me, that kind of connection makes every it don't matter how hot it is on stage. That connection right there is why I do the things that I one hundred percent that reminds me. Like last week, Petfield his new thing nowadays is your metallica. That's right, Like it says that to the crowd, your metallica sin and that's such a That's what you're saying, is people's. A blue collared band. I mean my dad worked in a factory too, Yeah, saying my first job was at Kroger. Like, I just chased my bliss. There you go, and everybody should chase her. I say, yes, absolutely, chase your bliss. But whatever makes you happy, whatever puts that fire in you, chase that. Yeah, chase that, and you.

20:18 Will become more authentically who you are, and so your. Life will completely change. Man, it's no doubt like I've experienced it. But it's been great. Man. I love it. I love you guys being here at Welcome to Rockville. Tell everybody out they can reach out to you on the web, socials, by your merch because it's only way band survive or anything else. You want to tell them. You find us at Instagram at the saving Abel. We do have a Chicksawk it's at the saving Able as well. We are having some more social media networks come around, so we'll have that to be able to plug in dur in just a few days. But we're excited to be back here and we couldn't do it without you guys fans. Like I said, we dropped a new single today live on stage, like we were like, hey that all you have to do is go to saving able dot com and you can download it for free before it's even going to Spotify.

21:06 This is just for you guys, saving a good beers. I don't like what that late those two artists. I hear you. Absolutely. We've been played over one hundred million times on Spotify, and I'm I count the pennies every day. And you know what from my end, Okay, so I run radio stations, we're license I pay all the royalties and everything. Today alone during interviews, I got two hundred emails from Spotify about blah blah blah blah blah blah bullshit almost spam. Yeah, it's like shut up, yeah here, a little. Too much right now, but yeah, You can go to savingable dot com or you gotta do type in your email address and you'll be able to download. It's a brand new single. We dropped it today right here at Daytona, Florida.

21:48 Welcome to Rockville. It's called Dodge Bullet. Yeah. Check that out. Man free nice. I love it. I love you guys. Man glad you're here and thanks for being on the events pipe Man. Absolutely thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipement on w for c u I Radio