July 26, 2025
PipemanRadio Interviews The Dillinger Escape Plan at Inkcarceration 2025
We are at Shawshank Prison aka Ohio State Reformatory for the 2025 Inkcarceration Music & Tattoo Festival. The Dillinger Escape Plan is playing and came backstage in the Press / Artist Lounge to talk with Pipeman Radio of W4CY Radio about what it is like to perform at such an iconic location where Shawshank Redemption was filmed. This closed down prison is known to be haunted so when you go to Blood Prison who knows what will happen.
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Hy you have done too.
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Yes, that's true.
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See Why Crazy.
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Young Incarceration America's rock, metal and tattoo bestory.
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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe
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Man W four C Y Radio, and I'm here with this.
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Has been in Dmitri from the Dillinger Skate Plan.
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Nice here at incarceration.
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First question is are you gonna get arrested here at incarceration?
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Put in the prison for breaking the rules like jumping
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off on the fucking top of the stage or something.
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I mean, we've already been given a lot of rules
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and a lot of restrictions, and you know we're getting older.
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And I didn't even wear my diaper today, So yeah,
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I can't promise that any body of fluids won't touch
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the floor and there won't be any kind of Asthmatt,
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you know, people to come clean.
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But other than that, I don't know what about you.
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I would say, unless it's like an accident, will pass out,
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you could climb a tower, lose your electrolytes.
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It's hot out here, wor old?
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I think that's the factor probably.
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I tell you what, when I was watching you guys
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at Rockville, you weren't fucking old at all man, Like,
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I can't believe the energy that came from you guys
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in that performance.
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I was like, oh my fucking god.
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And I've seen you guys before, but that performance was
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like just I couldn't.
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Really well, thank you very much, but yeah, considering the
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Florida heat and you saying.
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That, that's what I'm saying.
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No, Like I was like, how the fuck are they
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doing this in this Florida heat?
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I don't know.
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Yeah, well, thank you. No, we're just having a good time, man.
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So it's like when you enjoy it, it's like we
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really fully we're not performing, we really are like feeling it.
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That's what I see.
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Yeah, well I'm watching you guys, like you can tell
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when somebody's dialing it in or if they're just having
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fun or.
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If they're like the business side. You guys look like
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this is just like the best time in your life.
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Well, thank you. That means a lot.
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And this music was written, particularly the music we're playing now,
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which is our first music that we wrote in a
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time when we had no expectation of people knowing it
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or liking it, or ever even hearing it.
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So this truly was written for us.
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This music was written to express ourselves, and so it
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brings us back to that time when we were writing music.
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Purely just for ourselves, without a fan base in mind
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at all. So we're very lucky to be able.
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To do it, and that's the way it should always be.
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And to add on, we've been friends since we were
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like eighteen, so that's thirty years. And to what he's saying,
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when we play live, it's really not we're performing. It
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feels like we're still teenagers, feeling it how we did
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when we wrote it all our songs X amount of
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years ago. So it's a beyond a performance for us.
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It's just like a you smell something, you remember something,
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we hear that we perform. It's more of a feeling.
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That's where we're coming from, and it's really good to
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relive that.
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So you guys remind me of the time I originally
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came from, Like when I used to see Suicidal and
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I had long hair and I wasn't allowed to and
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I'd get my ass kicked, but I'd go anyway. I
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was talking before the interview about the first crossover show
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ever and it was at this Elks Lodge in Sun Valley,
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and it was Suicidal on the before they were Crossover,
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it was coc Pree Pepper and it was Descendance on
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the punk side and then Possessed Dark Angel and Savage
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Race on that metal side. There was no security, first
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show ever punk and metal in the same building, and
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they like had a roof that was way higher than
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this tent and people were climbing up to rafters diving off.
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And when I saw you guys at Rockville, like, it
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reminded me of that time.
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That's sick because I play in Suicide Tenz, so so
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that's how that band was a big influence on me.
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tend z's but looking at pictures of Rabbit, r Heo
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and Mike and definitely Suicidal did have an impact.
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On the creation of Dillager for sure.
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So there is a similar thing where the fans of
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both bands are diehards, but it's a gang, you know.
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ours and I love makes sense?
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Yeah, I love that. What do you think.
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About playing at the show Shank Prison.
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I didn't realize we were playing until about a week ago.
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I know, Stephen King writes all his books. All his
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stories are based in New England, so I always thought
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this prison was up somewhere in like Maine.
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But when I.
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Found out it added some juice for me personally as
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a fan. So yeah, it's it's.
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It's trip, right.
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It's not a bucket list thing, but it's definitely like
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I get checked that off of like cool things I've
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done in life, like I played at Shawshank Prison. Well
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not added, but next to it.
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He's my Morgan Freeman anyway, somebody.
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There, you go, Yeah, I can't get him things like poster.
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He gets me things nice.
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One of my favorite movies, and a lot of people
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don't know Stephen King because it's not like a horror.
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Movie, right, but it just was his genius.
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Right. Oh yeah, it's so good.
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Yeah, epic movie. It's funny.
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I do all the festivals all the time, and my
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youngest stores, she'll call me up, so you're excited about
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this festival. I'm like, I love it. I don't know
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if excited is the right word when you do it
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every week. But then when I came here for the
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first time, I called her up and I'm like, I'm
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calling you from the prison.
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Yard of Shawshank. Now I'm excited.
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Yeah, absolutely right. It gives it that juice.
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Yeah, exactly, Yeah, totally.
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So what do you guys got going on after this
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that we want the listeners to know about? What do
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we have next for going on after inc that? We
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want the listeners know about and tell them about your
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merch store because your merch store is badass and they
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can't listen to my show. And let's say buy your merch.
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Okay, our merch store.
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It's if you go to our Instagram page, there's a
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link to our merch store. But thank you for plugging that.
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We're next week. It's what's today, July sixteen, I don't know.
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We're playing Denver next Saturday, and then after that in
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August we're headed to Australia for two weeks.
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And I've never been to Australia period. Wow.
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I'm really excited for that. To go with these guys
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and keep doing this and enjoying the moment, that's what
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we're doing.
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That's the key.
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Yeah, those are our plans. So next is Denver and
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then two weeks in Australia.
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Fucking Australia. We're going west to East Coast I know.
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I love it.
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Man, Australia, that's pretty freaking cool. Have you been to
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Australia before?
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Yeah, yeah, I've been a bunch of times.
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And I'm actually doing that in August with Dillinger and
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then going back in November with Suicidal on Metallica tour.
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I'm gonna be in Australia quite a bit. Man, I'm
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gonna get those damn those play points.
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Man, there you go.
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Shit, what going to Australia? Right? Yeah?
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A little band call maybe you heard of them? No,
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but yeah, I'm not looking forward to it, but I
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am lying. It's a long, exhausting but it's so good,
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so exhausting.
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But oh what are you doing down there? See this
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is now he's going down.
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There speaking of looking for something.
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Check out my battle vest from what I was talking about.
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Yep, shit, it's up.
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You know what's up?
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Look at that's sick. Now, this is a real fucking vest.
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How old is this?
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Nineteen eighty?
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Hell yeah, So if you were the guy that we
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looked up to in the eighties, we're like that dude
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was a fucking badass. Well, thank like my my my
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neighbor growing up in New Jersey, I'm from.
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New Jersey, originally originally North Jersey, Montclair litl Falls, Roselantic,
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but I the last place was down to the shore.
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I've lived all over Jersey.
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Yeah, up in Morris County.
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Okay, so I know it well.
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But I spent a lot of time in Montclair. There
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you go.
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My neighbor across the street to me growing up, drew
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with this like if you see movies today, like the
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typical metal van with like the lightning on it, and
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he always had the sickest eighties metal shirts. That was
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my window to like that guy's a fucking badass. Nineteen
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eighty four, Van Halen's eight nineteen eighty four came out
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and that was it for me.
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So check out what happened to me. I'm like twelve
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years old. It's nineteen eighty and my dad goes, pack
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your bags, we're moving to California. And that was the
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start of my metal journey because I went there. My
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first club show was at the Roxy Motley Crue before
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they had an album, when they were like horror punk,
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they weren't lamb yet. And then I went to Slayers
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first show ever, Metallica's first show ever.
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That is crazy bro right, you're that's crazy.
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I mean, like, like.
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You've seen history. Man, you just seen the.
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Very bigate I saw Auzsie went Randy Rhodes, Like that
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was epic.
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It amazes me now.
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When we're at this festival with so many metal heads
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out there, especially where people are like metals dead.
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Rock's dead.
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Walk the fuck out there and you'll see how not
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dead it is and thank god, it's bigger than it
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ever was and we're one big family now.
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And what's pretty wild is you witness the evolution of
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metal pretty much.
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Yeah, totally wild.
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Like we hopped in a little before the middle of it,
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like early mid eighties for me, mid eighties more. But
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it's man, I must be sick, just like late seventies,
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early eighties.
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Oh dude, it was insane. Like I go now to
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LA I'm like, I'm going to Rainbow. I'm like, how
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did I ever get in there? Like being twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
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Oh I walked in with Botley Crue that's how you know,
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and hanging with Lemmy at the Rainbow shit shit like that.
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And I say to people that tell me nowadays like
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in my age group, oh yeah, I used to listen
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to metal. I'm like, no, you didn't if you used
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to listen to metal, you're not a metal head, Like
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it's a lifelong identity and just a passion, Like, yeah.
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It is on our music. You can't fake you know.
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It's not about a.
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Playlist like or like just a hit or the producer.
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It's about the band, what they mean and what they
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bring to the past, what they bring into the future,
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all of that.
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Well, I am definitely so excited.
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You guys are here at incarceration and I hope you
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don't get your artists past pulled because I would saying
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before it was louder than life. I think years ago
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Joy's Wolf Nick climbed up to very top. Nick from
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Joyous Wealth climbed up to very top, it was saying
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from up there, and as soon as their set was over,
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he got his past pulled and kicked out of the venue. Yeah,
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so let's hope that doesn't happen you. But I don't
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think it will because he got away with it at Rockville.
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So you might hear so that that was no subtle
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pressure at all from you.
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It just means, yeah, well I'll give you the pressure.
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I just talked to Slaughter to prevail. They have said
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that they're gonna have the biggest wall of death ever here.
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