PipemanRadio Interviews The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus at Aftershock 2025

0:04 Hi, you love done too? Yes, that's true. See why for you you? This is a pipe man here on the Adventurers pipe Man w port c Y Radio, and I'm here with the. Red jumpsuit apparatus. Man. How you been, how you've been? I'm good man, Good to see you again. I like your look today, Thank you. I've been working on it. You almost look like you're a musician. Everybody always used to tell me I didn't look like I was in a band, and then I looked like I shop at Walmart. And what I would say is I do there you go? So now I've been in La ten years now, La County. So things happen when you live in La.

0:49 Oh yeah, well now it all makes sense. Okay, get her in La. That's the way you're going to California. Love California. We are today. Indeed, there it is, and here's why I love. Like. I met you at musing years ago, seventeen something like that. I don't even remember. It's like a long time, and. You were a photographer and now you're a badass singer. Yeah we're here, Like, how did that happen? I mean I've been doing both forever, right, Like I've been in bands since I was like fifteen. My first band was actually in Dubai. Really we played one show in a car warehouse that my friend owned.

1:30 It was like a Halloween show. It was like a. Melodic hardcore band called Nightmare. Overdose was my first band. Horrible name, but we got to have them. Yeah. First idea for Red Jumpsy Apparatus was better Scotch enemas. That sounds very blank Win eighty two inspired. But tasty as well. Oh that's anyway. I did a photo video for so long and then you did. And then five years ago or so I started doing photo video for Red Jumpsuit toured with them a bon We went to Australia, which is where I first met them back in twenty thirteen when they came and played there when I lived there, and just kind of kept touring with them, and I would jump on stage for Face Down every now and then.

2:11 And then when they went back to Australia in twenty three, Randy Ronnie's brother didn't go and so they needed a screamer. So I was doing photo video and screams for. The whole time. That's a lot of work, yeah. And since then I that was when I planted the seed and have been just manifesting this since then. And then they did warp toward DC and our drummer asked if I wanted to scream and I said sure, which song? And he said no, the whole set. I said, this is the first warp tour in five years, are you sure? And everyone was like, yeah, do do it. And then Ronnie a few weeks later asked me to jump on an Instagram live, which we had never done before. So I was like, what why we've never what do we talk about? And then he'd straight up just asked me like, do you want to be a permanent member of the band forever? But he said you have to say yes or no right now, and I said yeah, obviously. Yeah, so that's how.

3:02 We got here. So nice Shark Tank. I love it. I took the deal. I took the deal. And my first show as a member of Red Jumpsuit was at Vans Warp Tour Long Beach and that's kind of where everything started for me. And I said that on stage it was Warped Tour DC, right, but not as a member, right, Well, he's an official. Writ and. Granda either way. Either way, it was Warped Tour, which is where I did my first guest vocal ever exactly. So Warped Tour was the first time I ever did a feature vocal spot. Back in twenty eleven, I went to go to Motionless in Whites signing and Chris recognized me from YouTube because I did covers and stuff and he was like, hey, you did Abigail on YouTube, right. I was like yeah.

3:49 He's like, you're coming on stage with us today. Nice figure it out and I was like, oh, so that was my first time. So I shouted Chris out at warp Tour Long Beach because it was it was really like. Full circle and it's the nicest. He's the nicest, and the circles are They're great. And there's so many full circles happening now that it's starting to like spiral. The Halloween Zone, they have a lot of those. No, the one with the were wolves. Oh yeah yeah, oh it's. Called were wolf. That makes sense, A good one. Were wolves. I added, you were closed? You were closed, right, man? I know right. You did better than I. Catch it, right? Yeah, that's great, brob Zombie.

4:30 What the doublet with were wolves? Yeah, with the were wolf graving down the room, flirt in with. The Okay, can you scream to that saying? So, I want you to scream to it. Let's do. I want to blow you out, go for it. My voice is fucked right. I've been talking all day. I've been talking all day. It is rough like the saying the way had talking all day. Yeah, we're almost there. I veiled, I got scared. You're almost scared. You can do it. I have faith in. You, have faith in me? Do you remember?

5:12 See you get and you can sing too. So I'm like a mid tier singer. I'm a top tier screamer. I think I'm doing my best. I want to do more singing. You you're definitely a top tier top tier singers I've ever met. Is like call Quinn Celine deal. Oh, Celine Dion is incredible. Everybody else we're mid Okay, Well, then. What is under low tier? Lee's top tier? There's not many. Am is the top of the top two. We were just talking about this before. Two. Maybe Maynard Keenan or Freddie Mercury who is obviously no longer with us. Yeah, Freddy was springs.

5:53 How about Halford? Yeah, Michael Jackson obviously Yeah, so s Cornell, Chris Cornell, Chester Bennington. You know, damn all the good ones are gone. Yeah, so I guess you know. The moral to that story is you don't want to be top tier. Yeah, it happened to you. Fucking died exactly. Das, you're the best, CEO. We can't have you here, storry here and fear the reaper all the time. Every time you go into a restaurant. You better start watching your back. Dang, that's crazy, or someone tries to kill you. Selena, Selena, Christina Grimy, Jim Morrison, Jim Morrison, Kurt Ko bang guy from that band. That band, there should be a band called that.

6:36 Ban thank you? That band. That's who I was thinking of. There's so many, yeah, so many like the cream of the that's crazy if you're a musician. I'm not dead is because I'm not the best. Say I told you, you know what. I'll continue not being the best to stay a loud. So we should suck more. Just in case I hold back. There's now and then I'll miss a note on purpose, just to let people know I'm not the best. So I always think about well, I just saw about now. I don't always think about but if you are a musician, you make it past twenty seven or you're like I. Was fu Yeah, I was so scared that that's a real thing. I do remember being turning twenty eight and being like, all right, we made I made it. Now I'm going to think about the rest of my life now. Right until that moment, I was like, hey could go either way, you know, especially with me. I was a bit of a wild man of seven.

7:28 I was skydiving a lot same. I think we all have had those moments. I didn't think I wouldn't live to twenty seven. I didn't think I lived to seventeen. So I remember being a teenager, me and my bro would be like, fuck it, the whole world's gonna blow up anyway, and that hasn't changed. Still tomorrow I was gonna we're still I can't even believe, like you said that, I can't even believe we're still worrying about that all these years later. Will forever and it will only get more and more more fear. But yeah, I'm in space. I can't. I have this idea. I want to know what you think of it. I know how to solve all the world's problems. What we just have one big music festival that the whole world is required to attend.

8:18 You just do live aid but like for the world. Yeah, and because we listen you look at our family out here at Aftershocked. There are no outsiders. There's there's nobody that cares about anybody else in any other way but love. And we're one big family, so it might work. And then yeah, we just The only people that aren't allowed to go to this festival are all the politicians of the world. They wouldn't want to be there anyway. Man, No, they wouldn't have no interest in being here. And also, you're onto something because I think music crosses borders language. But if you're death, they have interpreters like you're still a part of the thing, you know. Like, I'll tell you what I think. I thought you were going to say.

8:58 I want to hear this. You said I know how to solve all the world's problems, and I was like, Okay, here we go. And then you said all we need is one big and I thought you were going to say, big ass. Buwll of weed. Okay, the festival. Let's invite everybody to. The ball in the fog Machines is just well, here's. What I think is funny. In Florida, only medical marijuana is legal. But if you go for your medical marijuana card, you lose the right to. Own a gun. But what yes, but you can drink and own a guy. Now, I'm like, listen, okay, if you're stoned, you're not even get up off the couch to get your gun.

9:46 You're like, oh, you're breaking my house. That's cool, Come on, right, exactly, stupid right of idiocracy. That's actually the most insane thing I've heard today. It blows my mind, Like, really, you can drink and own a god and bring it into the bar. Now, in Florida, you can bring that into the bar with you because it's open. But if you got to join on you you can't open carry. That's crazy. You know what the root is behind that, right control? It's racism. Well that too, just so. You know, money, money, money, money. I don't have to unpack it for the listeners, but that's what it is, profiling the communities who like to use cannabis, even though the truth is all communities like to use cannabis, oh, no doubt. But they're doing that so they can take their guns. Yeah, crazy.

10:39 That's you know what. That was a good way of putting it right there. You're welcome, you know, because you go to other countries where they don't have racism like us, and they don't have gun problems either. Exactly. It's unbelievable. Yep, they are creating it. Yeah, it's coming from the top. You don't see a boy or I'm worrying about that. People of course like everything. Which is why they've been telling us that it's systemic, because they're telling us the truth. Yeah, it's pretty simple. It's trickle down racism. To blow anyone's nugget with this, all they got to do is look it up. It's trickle down racism is way. This is from the top down, guys, not from the ground up. Most people are good people. Yeah, and that's what I've been traveling around the country proving. We've been going city by city calling out our fans, saying if you're racist and homophobic, get out of my club. I have done it, night after night. No other sin has done that in the history.

11:36 I love that. Ever, I'm the only. One to do it. That is. I haven't had to kick one person. Out there, you go, one. What I've proven is. It's not coming from us, It's coming from the top. That's why we need that music. Is on them yet, I've made it pretty clear. That's why we need that music festival, because then nobody will have to leave the music festival there it is Weed Fest. Who wouldn't go to that? People that are assholes? I mean, you don't have to smoke it. You can just go to the fest. Yeah, from the air, it's already beginning there. It is. This isn't after shock.

12:17 Let's do it. Let's do it. Danny Wimmerdan Wier twice twenty six. Danny on the phone. It'll be when he's a busy guy. It'll be after weed. Hey man, I got an idea. Three am, I got an idea here. It's a good one. That's great ship. Maybe we should have it in Weed, California. Oh my god, you're a genius. So there we go. That's all it's really. I think you should run it for president personally. Don't do that, of course, because there's not going to be a more elections. There's not gonna be a more election. Because they'll clap his ass. Don't announce it live on your on your podcast. Yeah, announce it, please. I run for president every election.

12:59 Turn Yeah, I have this. I have a commercial pipe man for pres pipe Yeah. Oh, wait's what's happening now here? It is he's making the announcement right here live on the interview. We go, Hey, I'm here with Dean the pipe man, and I decided I am forty two years old, so I'm legally allowed to run for president of the United States. I don't really know shit about shit, but I couldn't possibly be anywhere than the clown that's in there now. So Ronnie Winter vote for me. I vote Ronnie. I also vote Ronnie. I don't really know anything, but. I want to be as run me. I want to be as Runnie mate pipe man, and Ronnie I will. Be the hype man. Just vote for me for the hell of it, to prove how dumb all this shit is.

13:42 You could be the secretary of idiography. I'll be the secretary of defenseless. Right the votes. Think about it. I got Costa Rica all the time. They have no military and they don't have any problems, and people get healthcare career. I got healthcare from Costa Rica for free because I crazy. We have to leave our country to get care. Well, I had a heart attacked surfing there whoa wait mid surf on top of a ten foot wave, and it was from I had a heart attack the year before that, Hawaii's healthcare. Bacon kicked my ass. I have the bacon, I know, right, so.

14:22 You have like scard attacked scar tissue that reheart attacked. Know what they did is they misplaced his stent and it flowd out in my. You live like you're dying. Guy, live like you're dying. Black, You're dying always. But everybody you hang out with because I do. That's the way it should be, you know. And I know that. The doctor called my insurance cupany in and it's like, he needs this procedure right now where he's gonna die. And they're like, well it takes forty eight to seventy two hours to process the claim. You'll just him die. And it's a weekend, so it might take longer. It might take longer. He hangs up. Actually it gets worse, he hangs up. I'm not even in my own country. I'm in the third world country, and they put me in their social security system and treat me one hundred for free, crazy for free.

15:12 I have had some experiences I won't go into that are similar, and it gave me a lot of gratitude for the way that they treat people. And I just think a lot of people just k touch it on it earlier today. I don't know if it was in this interview, but just a lot of people just haven't left the United States and we're their hometown. Yeah, we're their hometown. But I say it all the time, you got to just leave the country. Just do it, save the money, do what you gotta do, go see what it's like elsewhere, and then you'll just understand. You'll. I call it a. Big lie because the first time I ever went to Europe, you know, my generation as was grew up like, oh it's scary out there everywhere else, Oh we're the only free country to Europe. And I'm like, what the fuck were they talking?

16:00 I know people gatekeeping, yeah, the gatekeeping everything. I know people that haven't even left or street their whole life, Like, how do you live life like that? I am all into going every culture out there, because every culture out there. You learn something from. Unfortunately, nowadays I learn how fucked up we are. That's as humans inherently, Yeah, we are disgusting, Oh my god, horrifically horrible creatures we are. And the inventory there's good and bad, that's right. I just posted a video today about how I think it's silly that we had to create the International Space Station for the every Because it's international, anybody can go there and do science.

16:44 We had to go away from Earth to come together. I think that's insanity because we should be able to do that here because we are also I don't know if you know this, we are also in space currently. Yeah, right, we're in space right now, exactly. It's crazy. I can't believe how much sense that makes. I know. But all these people, they're freaking stupid. I've been saying it every day and the day Mike head online. They don't get it. I don't know what to tell them. All right, you can really tell them they're stupid two hundred times, and after that you're just like, you know what, forget about it if you're stupid to understand that you're stupid. So I just got well, let it go. You can't fix stupid. That's true, and I don't even mean it in a negative way. That's what they don't understand. It's not meant in a negative way. When we say stupid, we're trying to be kind because what we're actually thinking is worse than.

17:32 That fucking stupid. Yeah, I mean, or worse than that even. But the point is, like, just educate yourself. You have technology, you have the textbooks, you have the ability to talk to the professors, you have the ability to just know what the fuck's going on. So stop acting like you do and actually do your research because guess what will happen if you do. You're gonna wind up on our side by the time you get done. You know why I thinks funny as hell is that they blame the people that have an actual education. That's why they're liberal, because they have an education and they think. They don't want you to know, and they think that's a bad day. I'm like, what that used to be the way, because that's the opposite, that's the opposite of consumerism, you know, capitalism, And they want to keep you here.

18:21 Yeah, oh my god, you take a class called humanities and you actually learn how. To be human? Crazy? What a concept? Whoa, that's so wrong? God forbid we learn anything in life? Ever, Well, you know what we learned, you guys are badass. That's what we learned. We played well today. I think we did well. If you embrace yourself on me. At the last minute, I don't even know where're playing. Somebody, I could show you. This is this was my this was okay, that needs to go away. This was our set list today. And then suddenly after false pretense started playing the intro and I was like, oh, I guess we're doing that now.

19:03 We looked at the amount of time and decided we needed to add a song. And told me, but thank god, I've been at your band for so long that I know all the music. You're bro. I know brace But that's what's great about artists like you is it doesn't have to be by a scripture. Just play what you feel. Sometimes you do what you feel. I think that's the best way to be, you know. That's what people have memories. Like when I see a set of a band that does something that they never do, that's what I remember. True me too. I just saw Carcass last night, and I'd seen him a few times on YouTube. They've been around a long time. Yeah, but they did some cool stuff with like some production that you know, like as an older band, you expect to be a little more low intensity like with the performances, but the singer was just like amazing, like he was still moving around and both guitar players, but they had all these cool like lighted cabs and it's like more technicol technologically advanced on what I'm currently doing. And I'm like half their age.

20:05 So I was like, damn, I need to get on this, you know what I mean, Like I was watching them last night, So like that's a good example because every other time I saw and it was just kind of the backdrop and the normal lights, which is more kind of what we do, which is the traditional rock band look, right, But if even they're going that route, I thought, it's time. It's time. So there's a good example of what you were saying, Like when a band that you have seen before, whether it's YouTube or live, that was my first time seeing them in person. But you know how it is now that YouTube's out, you can see any band live. Yeah, you can see. Any band one hundred times live in one hundred different cities. So if you get into a band, the first thing I do is go check out a bunch of their live stuff, no doubt. Hopefully try to find the one that's not a shitty audio recording, which is hard, but eventually you'll stump on the one that's labeled like good audio and you're like four K, you know, you're like, this probably still sucks, and then you click on it and it's freaking great, you know what I mean, and you're like, oh, this is what they sound like. So everybody's been there.

20:58 I love it. And there's about them like a live show, like and especially if an artist is really good live, that tells you a lot about them as a musician. Plus, like us, like a lot of other artists including us, we extend songs, yeah, and we add parts and change things, so the song is literally like cooler than the record, right, and we don't do it on every song, which makes it even more cool. So it's like you hear a couple songs that are just like the album, and then you hear one that's just like the album with like this whole coogle like completely new section that then finishes like normal, and then back to a song that's just like the album, and then one that's all acoustic, which isn't on the like that on the record, you know, So we kind of try to just pull them each direction with the same songs in a different arrangement, even in the live set. Yeah, to make a better show without having to use smokes and mirrors.

21:52 I love that. Yeah, and that's just literally using the instruments that you have. I'm a big believer in that. Yeah, you know, like R two musical building on that. We're about to bring in some percussion. So we're gonna have like, we're gonna have like a new element because it's gonna be like a mini drum line. We're all marching band kids, Ray. Kay and John all know how to play marching drums. I mean, I haven't played in like twenty years. But we'll figure that's okay. So anyway, there'll be another evolution for us soon. You know, you never stop. I played percussion in the school orchestra, so I'll join you. Get in, Get in. I think I like. The tympany, I like the temple work. I like so because I could change the tuning.

22:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah, my favorite two. Oh man, it's so much fun. Bomb everybody plays. Let's add timpany to the red jump through that bread. The last time I played marching snare was two thousand and seven. And our show that year was James Bond. So here's what you do is sick twenty twenty seven? Do you need to bring it back? There it is? It was sick, dude. Yeah, No, it was so fond, dude. I love it. Well, keep going. So many times I'm like visualizing the intro. Classic song, Let's do it. I have to like it doesn't matter of country you're from. Everybody knows. Everyone knows it.

23:19 Yes, yes, I know, right totally. I'm gonna hold you to it. We're gonna do this in twenty. Twenty seven, and apparently I'm running for president. We'll see what happened there it is. You got a couple more years still then, No, I'm forty two till. The next it's around the same time. Yeah, you could play your inauguration. You could play you could play your inauguration with the new percussion section. I think that's a wonderful ideas. Do want to live in the White House? I want to live anywhere but the White head row. That's probably a good idea. Yep. What a cool way to be president, cool way to be the people? Right, Yeah, what a concept. Like it's how it's supposed to be.

24:00 Go go figure. Theirst thing I would do would be fixed to row. Yeah, there it is. I think. And I talked with some of the guys in our van yesterday about this. I was like, you know what, I think we should stop importing goods for like a second completely, just to teach Americans how important immigrants are and how much we actually rely on the rest of the world. We need to be taught a lesson because right now everyone's just talking shit. Well not only that, but okay, what I don't think That's what I was gonna say. I don't think there's one person in this pres tent that's not an immigrant. It's crazy from the top down, the top.

24:40 Down, top cecuitus. We like circuitus. That's why we need you to be president, Ronnie. Change things from down there. It is get there, time to I'm now eligible campaign trio. All right, let's do it. It was either going to be the EMA Bachelor or President. You could do both. All right, well, do them both. There it is, do it all, do it all. I will host EMO Bachelor, and then I will take whoever. I'll be your press secretary. There you go, perfect, right, mouthpiece, Stay tuned. It's coming first episodes. Eric Soon. Come into a country near. You, International, coming to an encampment near you, coming to Portland next week.

25:25 It's badass. You guys are at Aftershock and and you guys are like an inspiration to the rest of the world, of course except Ronald Rump. Yeah, well some people don't think that. But I appreciate hearing you. Said, we want this Ronnie, not the other Ronnie. Thank you. Well, you know what I think that I. Call him resident. I didn't say it. I will. Point The point is there has been an infiltration in the rock world of anti trans homophobia. And if you're listening, then you already know what we're talking about. So fuck that.

26:12 And if you support that, fuck you. Can I get any more clear than. That, That's pretty clear, and it's pretty right on because my philosophy is, you do you like most of these people can most of these people complain doesn't affect their life in any way. Attacking those people they are doing them, Yes, so they're getting to do them, but no one else can. Right. They get to do what they want, but we can't. And that's why it's. Bullshit, right, look at that said at the same time, but it is true. I want. Hi. Me and Ronnie are both from Jacksonville.

26:52 I just wanted to say, that is a beautiful shade of blue green shirt. The blue almost matches what my hair used to look like. It's like a really pretty like that is. How would you describe that color? I would describe it as my. Hair like a like a like a like a it's more like his shirt, but it's like a green. But the shirt is beautiful. The shirt is. Describe the color of that hat because it's beautiful. But I don't know green blue. There's like blue in it. I think it's just like there's Maybe it's just because your shirt's blue and it's like it's far.

27:34 It's very pretty because he's farste oh a. Lot of walking. This is a good friend of mine. We go way back. We're glad you were here. Yeah, he's actually the guy who introduced me to Danny really way back in two thousand and four. Wow. Name is Jason, and he was working with another band at a time that I was absolutely obsessed with because they were so bad ass. They didn't wind up making it, but they killed it in the Jacksonville scene. And he was managing that band and we've been friends since then he's a good guy. And what was the name of the band Inspection twelve? Okay, freaking amazing band. Nice, but I think Red Jumps to Apparatus is an amazing that we and.

28:21 I agree with you. You guys are badass, and you're badass for humanity, and that's why we need to vote you for pres I'm going to run a new commercial. Usually I have a can you make it. Like really low quality like they are? Yeah, okay, let's do it. Let's do two crappy, take it down another five notches. Yeah, niceous in a bad way. This is it. You heard it first here and the Adventures of Pipe Man. I hope I get elected. You'll be my campaign manager. There you go. I'm down first. Policy weeds free. Oh well, they're going to get in on that a lot. Why anybody thought of that yet?

29:01 Free guys, because it's from where the earth go. Figure elect me and you could just grow some weed. You're gonna be okay, and you could be whoever you want to bitch a little bit, all right, I know, right. His campaign slogan will be it gets better there it is. If you're for running get green, Get green. Green is the new Black. That's what happens when you do an interview with the pipe band. There it is. You know where you're gonna end up, and here we are, and I thank you for being an interview. Am I seeing you at any other festivals this year? Are you gonna be at Warped in Orlando? Brother? Right after we rechalk a rainbow crosswalk, we will be at Warped or we might get arrested.

29:45 But oh yeah, like went outside the Pulse nightclub. Ship like that down del ray all of them. We just made a video about it. We're gonna go. There because God forbid I exist. Mike Drop. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Patmin onwfur CUI Radio.