Sept. 15, 2023
PipemanRadio Inteviews Kingdom Collapse at Blue Ridge Rock Festival 2023
On this episode of The Adventures of Pipeman, we’re joined by guest Kingdom Collapse at Blue Ridge Rock Festival. Pipeman and the band talk about what makes Blue Ridge Rock Festival different from the rest of the venues in the festival circuit....
On this episode of The Adventures of Pipeman, we’re joined by guest Kingdom Collapse at Blue Ridge Rock Festival. Pipeman and the band talk about what makes Blue Ridge Rock Festival different from the rest of the venues in the festival circuit. Pipeman and the band discuss standing up for themselves against corporate giants and share stories of rising to the top of their respective industries. The band shares what it was like to perform at festivals before they were signed and the differences now that they have a larger following. Kingdom Collapse discusses the importance of creative control with their art and the hesitation to sign to a major label. You can find more info on the band’s website and social media platforms at KingdomCollapse.com for upcoming tour dates, merch, and new releases!
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Listen to & Watch a show dedicated to motivation, business, empowerment, inspiration, music, comedy, celebrities, shock jock radio, various topics, and entertainment. The Adventures of Pipeman is hosted by Dean K. Piper, CST aka “The Pipeman” who has been said to be hybrid of Tony Robbins, Batman, and Howard Stern. The Adventures of Pipeman has received many awards, media features, and has been ranked for multiple categories as one of the Top 6 Live Radio Shows & Podcasts in the world.
Pipeman Radio also consists of multiple podcasts showing the many sides of Pipeman. These include The Adventures of Pipeman, Pipeman in the Pit, and Positively Pipeman and more. You can find all of the Pipeman Podcasts anywhere you listen to podcasts. With thousands of episodes that focus on Intertainment which combines information and entertainment there is something for everyone including over 5000 interviews with celebrities, music artists/bands, authors, speakers, coaches, entrepreneurs, and all kinds of professionals.
Then there is The Pipeman Radio Tour where Pipeman travels the country and world doing press coverage for Major Business Events, Conferences, Conventions, Music Festivals, Concerts, Award Shows, and Red Carpets. One of the top publicists in music has named Pipeman the “King of All Festivals.” So join the Pipeman as he brings “The Pipeman Radio Tour” to life right before your ears and eyes.
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• Pipeman Radio
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• Positively Pipeman
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Download The Pipeman Radio APP
Phone/Text Contact – 561-506-4031
Email Contact – dean@talk4media.com
The Adventures of Pipeman is broadcast live daily at 8AM ET.
The Adventures of Pipeman TV Show is viewed on Talk 4 TV (www.talk4tv.com).
The Adventures of Pipeman Radio Show is broadcast on W4CY Radio (www.w4cy.com) and K4HD Radio (www.k4hd.com – Hollywood Talk Radio part of Talk 4 Radio (
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Here's your host, the pipe Man. I am not a cool kid,
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never give a fuck. This is
pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man
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w f C Y Radio. And
I'm here with Aaron from Metallica. Yeah,
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I'm just second basis for Metallica.
Yeah, they just fired Rob right
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now, place deal with Rob Kingdom
Collapse. I played bass for Kingdom Collapse.
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Oh see, I thought you were
the guy backstage playing bass for Metallica
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while Rob was just showing off.
That's that's off the record. We can't
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talk about that. Cannot talk about
that on radio. Oh Man. And
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here here you are at blue Ridge
Rock Festival. Say that ten times fast.
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I want you to say that.
I'll say it once. Blue Ridge
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Rock Fest. We are unsigned and
we played main stage today, which we
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are freaking excited about. How badass
was that. It was great because last
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year we played a side stage and
we got John Sly, the head of
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Blue Ridge, threw us on main
stage for this year. So we're super
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thankful, and there was a massive
crowd out there for you. Yeah,
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it was sold out whole week and
sold out. How does that feel like
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early on the first day, you're
rocking to a whole massive crowd, because
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that doesn't normally happen, right,
I mean it was brunch hour. It
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was cool. I had my avocado
toast, but I was surprised there's a
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lot of people out there at we
were on at one tin it was I
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mean the lawn was pretty full.
Yeah, there you go. So it's
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funny you said the avocado toast because
first of all, I'm looking at your
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tat here on your arm, okay. And I lived I moved to California
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in nineteen eighty and lived there through
the whole Sunset strip scene. You know.
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I was into the Venice scene,
which I see on your tattoo,
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and I first of all, tell
me why it's backwards? Is it so
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when you look in the mirror it
looks right? The whole story. I
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used to live in La I was
a hired gun guitarist, lived in North
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Hollywood when I first moved there.
I went to Venice Beach and I saw
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a cheap painting which was this and
it was yeah backwards, like slash behind
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the sign, like showing the grime
and the dirt of Hollywood. I just
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really loved it, and I want
to get a tattooed. I love it.
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It's a cool tattoo, but it
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of what we're talking about, because
you know, Hollywood is like a king
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of music, you know, and
here you are at the King of All
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festivals, and you know that's my
that's my nickname. By the way of
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the publicist for Adam Splitter pr called
me that years ago because I go on
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tour and I do all the festivals. Splitter Yeah. So she was like,
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you're the King of all festivals.
I'm like, can I use that?
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She's like, yeah, and you
should trade market. So I did.
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So there I I'm I'm a hashtag. I was looking at my text
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because our friend Dave texts me.
He's like, hey, he sent me
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a selfie of y'all, so he
sent me your contact. I hit you.
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I was like, I was texting
Dean. I was like, shit,
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we talked last year because we were
on a dinky stage over here,
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so we wanted to make sure this
year it was like, actually, proper,
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Well, you're lucky this year because
this kind of president was not here
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last year. Last year wasted better. Oh it was a ship show last
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year. Luckily I'm experienced at this. I had to grab interviews from wherever
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I could, so I was like
going backstage and grabbing people I knew.
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I'm like, hey, let's do
an interview, because there was like,
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no, there was a little tent
here with no tables and chairs up here
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on this hill, which was worse
last year because they had to set up
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different so this was a hike for
artists to get here. Was a major
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pain in the ass. So I
went and found them, well dud,
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because last year there was a stage
like yeah, we played this side stage
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whatever over here. Then you go
down the hill to the stage. Then
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there's another one. I was like, way back there, right way down
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the hill. Well dude, so
let me interview you. How'd you get
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iHeart? Have you always been iHeartMedia? You know? Wig? Okay,
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it's so funny, that's the pit
question you picked, And I'll tell you
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why. So when I first started
the network many years ago, our main
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location is in Wellington, Florida,
and we have this festival that we do
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every year called Winterfest, and there's
this dude in our town that plays it
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every year because he's famous, you
know, famous musician. Before he did
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that, though, somebody said to
me, and I'm not saying the name
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yet, okay for a reason.
Wait, we're talking Florida. You said
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Florida. Yeah, like Orlando winter
Park. No, West Palm Beach area.
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So he got somebody says to me, hey, you should go.
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You should interview so and so.
And I just rolled my eyes and I'm
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like why because you'll find out in
a second rock band or a singer.
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No, he's a rapper from the
eighties and you know, I'm a metal
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head and I'm like why. And
so then he goes he does this charity
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of end downtown West Palm Beach.
Go check it out and you'll see why.
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And I went down there. I'm
like, holy fuck. There were
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fifty thousand people there. I'm like, holy fuck. He still has a
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following. I can't believe this.
So anyway, he came to our festival.
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Is here at this festival he is
it is. See I was naively
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to see if you would figure it
out. So what happened was is he
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did this festival of ours, our
town festival, and he brought I was
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live broadcasting, so he promised me
an interview. And every time he came
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and sat down at the chair's manager
whisked him away, same as like you
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were busy last year, you know. Yeah. And at the end of
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the night, manager comes up to
me. He's like, sorry, he
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can't do the interview. He's got
another event he's got to go to.
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And I look and I see Rob
running across the amphitheater, sits down in
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the chair, shoose his manager away. He's like, I promised you an
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interview. I'm giving you one.
You're gonna interview him tonight after his set.
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I'm I'm gonna walk up to him
and see if we're friends now.
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So I'm gonna walk up to him. I'm like, hey, he's playing
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the club stage. Wherever that is
he's playing, it's the after party,
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it's the monsters stage. I think
it is not monster there's the monsters,
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and there's Monster monsters. The main
the monsters is the one way in the
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back somewhere. Ohta. But so
he when you hear what happens next,
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because it all ties together to your
question, Okay, you can tell I'm
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a radio personality because I can tell
a whole story for one little question.
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But anyway, he uh so,
Denny invites me to broadcast live at his
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event, the which is the big
one, Like sure, first thing that
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year. I go down. I'm
unpacking all the radio equipment. He's helping
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me, and because we became real
friendly, and I had slip not blasting,
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and he started headbanging and I looked
at him and I rolled my eyes.
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Well, you know what's nuts with
Rob? His original drummer obvious playing
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today, but his original drummer owns
clubs in Dallas like Venus that our band
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is played in the Dallas Deep Ellam
area. Because I thought, I don't
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know if Rob is he from Texas
originally? Do you know? I don't
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think so Clinton his drummer is I
don't know. I know he lives in
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my town now, but yeah,
but no, we have I mean,
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it's weird that we even have ties
to Vanilla Ice, right, all roads
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lead to Vanilla Ice. Yeah,
clearly, that's that's what it is.
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So then okay, I roll my
eyes and he's like, oh dude,
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this is my jam. I love
the metal I'm like, okay, So
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now I had mad respect. They
gave me the interview when he didn't have
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to. But I gain mad respect
the following year because the following year,
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he goes, hey, you can
come broadcast again, And so I did.
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I set up and there's this big
person like a director of Clear Channel,
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walks up to my booth. Clear
Channel for those of you don't don't
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know, it's who iHeart is.
Now they were a Clear Channel, yeah,
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And she was like, you need
to take your booth down and leave.
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And I'm like, what do you
mean you can't be here. I'm
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like, well Rob invited me here. We don't care. We're paying for
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this event. It's our event.
We don't want you here. And I'm
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like I'm playing nice. At first. I'm like, well, you're a
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Clear Channel. I'm just some little
radio station. I'm not your competition she
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and she goes, yes, you
are, because we're Iheartrail and I'm Internet
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streaming. So they had just started
in that arena, so she then I
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knew I wasn't gonna get anywhere where. I'm like, well listen, I'm
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not leaving because you tell me to
leave. If Rob tell asked me to
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leave. I'm happy to leave,
but I'm not leaving because you tell me
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to leave it damn. And she
lost her shit. So you've built,
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You've built something cool. Yeah,
but so wait, we got here to
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rest. I know, I know
you want to get to a point.
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But this is where the iHeart comes
in. Oh yes, yes, he's
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radio. It takes thirty eight minutes
to get to a point. Right,
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you like that? So she goes
up to his stage while he's sound checking,
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and all I hear over to Mike
is get the fuck off my stage
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and leave my fucking radio station alone. Mad respect Like he didn't have to
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do that. They were paying him. I wasn't. I will just left.
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He put me in his meet and
greet and he's like, you stay
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here. They can't fuck with you
here. Next year he kicked them out
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of his festival, brought me.
He says, I want you coming back.
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I kicked them out. I don't
put up with that corporate radio bullshit.
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Here's the answer your question. Then
I get a phone call. This
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is so and so from Clear Channel. We're starting a network of talk.
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There was no word for podcasting then, but that's what it was. We've
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been listener stationed for the past year, and you have great content and we
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want a partner with you for beta
testing our new talk network, Online Talk
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Now, because you just had not
in Flames. You had a band a
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couple of weeks ago. Who do
you interview last month? I was in
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interview. Well, I was just
looking at your at your thing on iHeart.
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It wasn't in Flames. I did
interview in Flames, but but now
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I don't think it was last month. I had like sixty interviews last month.
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But to your point, what you've
built, I mean is nowadays and
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radio it is hard to do and
you have bands who still want to come
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talk and hang. It's like that's
I mean twenty twenty three, that's with
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streaming and everything. Well, that's
like Tech nine was just here. They
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called right there like that guy knows
what he's doing. Yeah, they're smart,
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you know. So the more oldest
story is stand up to the fucking
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big bad wolf and they may end
up partnering with you. Yeah, and
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here, all these years later,
here we are answer your question. The
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long the un the bridge that was
thirty nine minutes, It whenever thirty eight.
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So what's your next question? Let's
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me let me talk about myself.
You got thirty eight minutes. Fuck,
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I got a minute of conversation.
Well so we talked last year. Last
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year we played here. We're on
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then unsigned, still unsigned, but
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had seven straight singles on Serious XM
Octane. Nice tell us about the new
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one un Serious too. Yes,
never be like you that just came out
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last week. Just got the ad
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rotation, but we still as an
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get regular rotation, we tell our
fans, hey go Bombard Octane or radio
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station x y Z. Make sure
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to hear it on radio because they
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thing like, look it, you
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like Serious. But you know what, iHeart We have not had any iHeart
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spin, so this can help with
iHeart you know, we're down and if
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you send me any of your m
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rotation on my station. That'd be
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radio, even with rock nowadays,
it's like to get into FM radio,
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it's a it's tough if you're if
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iHeart a moved the much into terrestrial
aimore. They basically sold all their terrestrial
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stations, but they were brilliant.
They smart. Part deal was you still
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got to call it an iHeart radio
station. And then they take the streaming.
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That's your podcast channeling. It says
iHeart and says Dean the Pipe pipe
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man, that's me, Yeah,
but it's Iheart's Yeah, that's right,
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that's right. So, and I'm
also partnered with now they were the original
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partner. I'm also partnered now with
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Audible. So this interview will be
on my live show, but we'll beyond
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two of my podcasts. You saw
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spot by, Amazon Music, Audible, and like one hundred others. Well,
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dude, we just got so we
got serious XM. Like I told
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you. But Pandora added us to
like all the huge rock nic Rocks.
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Is it channels for a Pandora yea, all the Rocks stations, channel stations
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because Chris Paddock, he's the head
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us. And again, no labels, So we're fighting our ass off just
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to get looks. And I think
if you saw what we're doing, I
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think it's better you have no label
as somebody from the eighties sunsets strip scene
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the labels never mind. Well that's
dude, I can talk ahead. I
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mean you lived I so I lived
in la I mean it was twenty seventeen,
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so not in the eighties when you
had Motley and well, Vince Neil's
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playing right now, but I know
right reading all their books about their record
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deals, it's a she was nuts. I live there backstage when the line
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of them signed it. I was
friends with a lot of them because they
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were all my age, just a
bunch of kids playing music. You know.
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Motley Crue was maybe like two years
older than me. First club show
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I ever went to was Roxy and
Motley Crue unsigned Motley Crewe before an album,
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went to first Metallica show ever since. You've mentioned Metallic in the beginning
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first Slayer show ever. Piercy's here
at this festival. You see that all
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the time Armored Saint. I was
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Chrysalis, And that's when I realized
at that point in time, maybe I
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should have fought differently. But I
was at gatekeeper kid. I was like,
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fuck this, I don't want anything
to do with this business back then,
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because it was like, Okay,
well you have to dress like this
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and your music has to be like
this, and blah blah blah, and
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here we'll give you a shitload of
money, a shitload of drugs, and
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a shitload of women and have a
good time. Amen. Brother, Amen.
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So but yeah, that's let's go
back to me. That's where I
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was. That's what the cell was
for. Yeah, for all that like
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not having a label. I mean, yeah, if we have, if
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there's a company that wants to dump
one hundred thousand dollars into us, by
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all means, but until we find
that partner that like really believes in us,
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that we can Yeah, I mean
I got an a job. When
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I'm home, it's like I work, So it's like we're not We're not
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struggling. It's like we're waiting for
the right the right thing. You gotta
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do the right thing because that wrong
decision could change the whole thing forever,
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you know, And you gotta be
true to yourself. To me, that's
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what music's about, being true to
yourself your art. So what question would
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you ask you in an interview?
Why don't you sign a record deal?
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So why don't you? I guess
I kind of answered it, but yeah,
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you did the creative control. Because
our singer so he and I grew
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up together in small town Texas.
He writes, produces like nine of everything.
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He writes. Some by to the
business side, Like after having the
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LA experience highering guitarists been at labels, I geek out on the business side
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and I see the realities of it. So, like I was telling you
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earlier, unless there's a label that
really believes in us, it's not really
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about money with us or ownership.
We just want to know. The partner
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is like, all right, we
want y'all to go number one. We
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want y'all to win. That's what
we're looking for, is just to win.
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It's not like we don't need a
million dollar advance. It's just who
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wants us to succeed. I love
that because if they don't believe in you,
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how can you trust to believe in
them? That's my viewpoint, you
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know, yeah, yeah man,
Well, I mean I appreciate you making
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the time for unsigned ban you know, at Blue Ridge to give us an
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interview. My pleasure. And you
know, listen, you guys are badass.
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You're playing at Blue Ridge and people
need to check you out. So
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how do they check you out?
On socials, on the web, and
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most importantly your merch because you can't
survive without that. Yes, so our
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website is Kingdom collapse dot com.
But then we're on Spotify, Apple Music,
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Pandora, all the above, YouTube, everything's there but merch. Like
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you said, it's Kingdom collapse dot
com. Are you on TikTok? We
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are now on TikTok. As much
as we have fought it, we realize
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how important it is, So we
are we are on TikTok. So is
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there a TikTok you did that?
You're like really embarrassed. No, But
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what pisses me off It is like
our biggest TikTok is a good friend of
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ours cooking burgers South Dakota, stupid
South Dakota. It has like fifty thousand
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views, and it's like, okay, so fuck our music, screw a
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music. It's like, all right, go grills and burgers. Yeah,
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I mean it's so stupid. I
have my daughter's boyfriend got one hundred and
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sixty thousand followers from solving Rubik's Cubes. See, well there, that's way
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more than that TikTok. So you
see now that's what you need to do.
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Just play your music with Rubik's cubes. That's the answer. That's it.
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That's how you that's how you're gonna
make it. And then some record
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label it's gonna be all about the
Rubik's Cube and they're gonna be like,
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we believe in you. I have
a college degree. I'm kind of an
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intellect day to a Ruby's qube,
but I can solve math. You know
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what. I never asked that I
should ask artists when you have a day
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job, like you do, what
does it feel like when you go back
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to that day job after being at
a festival? So I say day job,
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It's like I had eight thousand day
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have my degree, but I have
a real estate license. I teach music
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lessons when I'm home. I'm very
fortunate with all the people I work for.
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They know what I'm doing, but
they know when i'm home I work
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for them. Basically, my whole
setup is like nine to five, I
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work on the band and some real
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the lessons. But it's but I'm
smart enough to know I should work when
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I'm home and not just rely on
Yeah, oh my band's gonna get signed.
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We're gonna get a million dollars.
I know right nowadays and how it
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works, and our whole band,
they're not here right now, but all
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of us were at home. We
we make sure we can get by.
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You know, it said listen.
Everybody hates to say it, but Laura's
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was right. They all hated him
for the napster thing, but he was
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right. No, he was.
I mean, and we're not complaining about
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streaming like the bands who don't get
streams are wanting to complain like we do
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well on Spotify. It's like,
of course, we all want to make
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a million dollars, but we're happy
with you, yeah, with our half
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a cent, but we get a
lot of streams. So where there you
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go. Yeah, so it goes
back into the business and we're we're fine
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with it. Like, see,
that's a good perspective on because it's true,
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like maybe you make less, but
if you're getting all these streams you
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would never get in a million years
the traditional way it works out. Yeah,
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and people are exposed to you and
that's what happened, and then they
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love your music and become super fans
and that's key. I think that's better.
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on mainstage where we had a lot
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of shirts lined up at the rails, we were like, damn, we're
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we're doing something right. I know
we're not. We're not up there yet,
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We're not laws, were not metallicity
yet, but there's something something brewing
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you maybe because you guys rock and
I thank you for being here at blue
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Y Well. We appreciate you bringing
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I'm here with Aaron from Metallica. Yeah,
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I'm just second basis for Metallica.
Yeah, they just fired Rob right
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now, place deal with Rob Kingdom
Collapse. I played bass for Kingdom Collapse.
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Oh see, I thought you were
the guy backstage playing bass for Metallica
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That's that's off the record. We can't
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here here you are at blue Ridge
Rock Festival. Say that ten times fast.
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I want you to say that.
I'll say it once. Blue Ridge
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Rock Fest. We are unsigned and
we played main stage today, which we
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are freaking excited about. How badass
was that. It was great because last
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year we played a side stage and
we got John Sly, the head of
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Blue Ridge, threw us on main
stage for this year. So we're super
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thankful, and there was a massive
crowd out there for you. Yeah,
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it was sold out whole week and
sold out. How does that feel like
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early on the first day, you're
rocking to a whole massive crowd, because
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that doesn't normally happen, right,
I mean it was brunch hour. It
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was cool. I had my avocado
toast, but I was surprised there's a
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lot of people out there at we
were on at one tin it was I
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mean the lawn was pretty full.
Yeah, there you go. So it's
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funny you said the avocado toast because
first of all, I'm looking at your
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tat here on your arm, okay. And I lived I moved to California
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in nineteen eighty and lived there through
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I was into the Venice scene,
which I see on your tattoo,
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and I first of all, tell
me why it's backwards? Is it so
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when you look in the mirror it
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used to live in La I was
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Hollywood when I first moved there.
I went to Venice Beach and I saw
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a cheap painting which was this and
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the sign, like showing the grime
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really loved it, and I want
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It's a cool tattoo, but it
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of what we're talking about, because
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of music, you know, and
here you are at the King of All
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festivals, and you know that's my
that's my nickname. By the way of
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the publicist for Adam Splitter pr called
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tour and I do all the festivals. Splitter Yeah. So she was like,
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you're the King of all festivals.
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She's like, yeah, and you
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So there I I'm I'm a hashtag. I was looking at my text
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because our friend Dave texts me.
He's like, hey, he sent me
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a selfie of y'all, so he
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we talked last year because we were
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last year. Last year wasted better. Oh it was a ship show last
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year. Luckily I'm experienced at this. I had to grab interviews from wherever
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I could, so I was like
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I'm like, hey, let's do
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no, there was a little tent
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on this hill, which was worse
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different so this was a hike for
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pain in the ass. So I
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because last year there was a stage
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whatever over here. Then you go
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there's another one. I was like, way back there, right way down
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the hill. Well dude, so
let me interview you. How'd you get
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iHeart? Have you always been iHeartMedia? You know? Wig? Okay,
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it's so funny, that's the pit
question you picked, And I'll tell you
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why. So when I first started
the network many years ago, our main
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location is in Wellington, Florida,
and we have this festival that we do
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every year called Winterfest, and there's
this dude in our town that plays it
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every year because he's famous, you
know, famous musician. Before he did
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that, though, somebody said to
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yet, okay for a reason.
Wait, we're talking Florida. You said
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Florida. Yeah, like Orlando winter
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So he got somebody says to me, hey, you should go.
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You should interview so and so.
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like why because you'll find out in
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No, he's a rapper from the
eighties and you know, I'm a metal
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head and I'm like why. And
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of end downtown West Palm Beach.
Go check it out and you'll see why.
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fifty thousand people there. I'm like, holy fuck. He still has a
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following. I can't believe this.
So anyway, he came to our festival.
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to see if you would figure it
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did this festival of ours, our
town festival, and he brought I was
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live broadcasting, so he promised me
an interview. And every time he came
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and sat down at the chair's manager
whisked him away, same as like you
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were busy last year, you know. Yeah. And at the end of
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the night, manager comes up to
me. He's like, sorry, he
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can't do the interview. He's got
another event he's got to go to.
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And I look and I see Rob
running across the amphitheater, sits down in
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the chair, shoose his manager away. He's like, I promised you an
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interview. I'm giving you one.
You're gonna interview him tonight after his set.
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I'm I'm gonna walk up to him
and see if we're friends now.
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So I'm gonna walk up to him. I'm like, hey, he's playing
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the club stage. Wherever that is
he's playing, it's the after party,
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it's the monsters stage. I think
it is not monster there's the monsters,
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and there's Monster monsters. The main
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back somewhere. Ohta. But so
he when you hear what happens next,
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because it all ties together to your
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a radio personality because I can tell
a whole story for one little question.
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But anyway, he uh so,
Denny invites me to broadcast live at his
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event, the which is the big
one, Like sure, first thing that
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year. I go down. I'm
unpacking all the radio equipment. He's helping
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me, and because we became real
friendly, and I had slip not blasting,
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and he started headbanging and I looked
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Well, you know what's nuts with
Rob? His original drummer obvious playing
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today, but his original drummer owns
clubs in Dallas like Venus that our band
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is played in the Dallas Deep Ellam
area. Because I thought, I don't
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know if Rob is he from Texas
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think so Clinton his drummer is I
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my town now, but yeah,
but no, we have I mean,
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it's weird that we even have ties
to Vanilla Ice, right, all roads
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lead to Vanilla Ice. Yeah,
clearly, that's that's what it is.
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So then okay, I roll my
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this is my jam. I love
the metal I'm like, okay, So
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now I had mad respect. They
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to. But I gain mad respect
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he goes, hey, you can
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I set up and there's this big
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know, it's who iHeart is.
Now they were a Clear Channel, yeah,
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like, well Rob invited me here. We don't care. We're paying for
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this event. It's our event.
We don't want you here. And I'm
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like I'm playing nice. At first. I'm like, well, you're a
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Clear Channel. I'm just some little
radio station. I'm not your competition she
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and she goes, yes, you
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streaming. So they had just started
in that arena, so she then I
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knew I wasn't gonna get anywhere where. I'm like, well listen, I'm
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not leaving because you tell me to
leave. If Rob tell asked me to
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leave. I'm happy to leave,
but I'm not leaving because you tell me
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to leave it damn. And she
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You've built something cool. Yeah,
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rest. I know, I know
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But this is where the iHeart comes
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radio. It takes thirty eight minutes
to get to a point. Right,
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you like that? So she goes
up to his stage while he's sound checking,
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and all I hear over to Mike
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and leave my fucking radio station alone. Mad respect Like he didn't have to
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do that. They were paying him. I wasn't. I will just left.
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He put me in his meet and
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here. They can't fuck with you
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of his festival, brought me.
He says, I want you coming back.
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I kicked them out. I don't
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Here's the answer your question. Then
I get a phone call. This
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is so and so from Clear Channel. We're starting a network of talk.
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There was no word for podcasting then, but that's what it was. We've
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been listener stationed for the past year, and you have great content and we
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want a partner with you for beta
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Now, because you just had not
in Flames. You had a band a
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couple of weeks ago. Who do
you interview last month? I was in
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interview. Well, I was just
looking at your at your thing on iHeart.
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It wasn't in Flames. I did
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But to your point, what you've
built, I mean is nowadays and
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radio it is hard to do and
you have bands who still want to come
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talk and hang. It's like that's
I mean twenty twenty three, that's with
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streaming and everything. Well, that's
like Tech nine was just here. They
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called right there like that guy knows
what he's doing. Yeah, they're smart,
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you know. So the more oldest
story is stand up to the fucking
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big bad wolf and they may end
up partnering with you. Yeah, and
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here, all these years later,
here we are answer your question. The
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long the un the bridge that was
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So what's your next question? Let's
talk about my band. Now let
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me let me talk about myself.
You got thirty eight minutes. Fuck,
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I got a minute of conversation.
Well so we talked last year. Last
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year we played here. We're on
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then unsigned, still unsigned, but
this year we were main stage. We've
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had seven straight singles on Serious XM
Octane. Nice tell us about the new
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one un Serious too. Yes,
never be like you that just came out
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last week. Just got the ad
today or yesterday. So like in regular
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rotation, but we still as an
unsigned band, we go. When we
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get regular rotation, we tell our
fans, hey go Bombard Octane or radio
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station x y Z. Make sure
they know that y'all want to hear it.
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to hear it on radio because they
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of the band. So it's it's
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thing like, look it, you
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station. No other station does that
because you know, well, I fucking
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like Serious. But you know what, iHeart We have not had any iHeart
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spin, so this can help with
iHeart you know, we're down and if
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you send me any of your m
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rotation on my station. That'd be
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radio, even with rock nowadays,
it's like to get into FM radio,
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it's a it's tough if you're if
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iHeart a moved the much into terrestrial
aimore. They basically sold all their terrestrial
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stations, but they were brilliant.
They smart. Part deal was you still
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got to call it an iHeart radio
station. And then they take the streaming.
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That's your podcast channeling. It says
iHeart and says Dean the Pipe pipe
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man, that's me, Yeah,
but it's Iheart's Yeah, that's right,
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that's right. So, and I'm
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partner. I'm also partnered now with
Pandora, Spotify, Amazon Music, in
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Audible. So this interview will be
on my live show, but we'll beyond
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two of my podcasts. You saw
one of them on Ihart, Pandora,
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spot by, Amazon Music, Audible, and like one hundred others. Well,
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dude, we just got so we
got serious XM. Like I told
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you. But Pandora added us to
like all the huge rock nic Rocks.
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Is it channels for a Pandora yea, all the Rocks stations, channel stations
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because Chris Paddock, he's the head
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us. And again, no labels, So we're fighting our ass off just
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to get looks. And I think
if you saw what we're doing, I
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think it's better you have no label
as somebody from the eighties sunsets strip scene
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the labels never mind. Well that's
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mean you lived I so I lived
in la I mean it was twenty seventeen,
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so not in the eighties when you
had Motley and well, Vince Neil's
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playing right now, but I know
right reading all their books about their record
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deals, it's a she was nuts. I live there backstage when the line
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of them signed it. I was
friends with a lot of them because they
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were all my age, just a
bunch of kids playing music. You know.
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Motley Crue was maybe like two years
older than me. First club show
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I ever went to was Roxy and
Motley Crue unsigned Motley Crewe before an album,
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went to first Metallica show ever since. You've mentioned Metallic in the beginning
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first Slayer show ever. Piercy's here
at this festival. You see that all
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the time Armored Saint. I was
backstage with Armored Saint when they signed with
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Chrysalis, And that's when I realized
at that point in time, maybe I
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should have fought differently. But I
was at gatekeeper kid. I was like,
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fuck this, I don't want anything
to do with this business back then,
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because it was like, Okay,
well you have to dress like this
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and your music has to be like
this, and blah blah blah, and
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here we'll give you a shitload of
money, a shitload of drugs, and
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a shitload of women and have a
good time. Amen. Brother, Amen.
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was. That's what the cell was
for. Yeah, for all that like
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not having a label. I mean, yeah, if we have, if
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there's a company that wants to dump
one hundred thousand dollars into us, by
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all means, but until we find
that partner that like really believes in us,
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that we can Yeah, I mean
I got an a job. When
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I'm home, it's like I work, So it's like we're not We're not
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struggling. It's like we're waiting for
the right the right thing. You gotta
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do the right thing because that wrong
decision could change the whole thing forever,
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you know, And you gotta be
true to yourself. To me, that's
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what music's about, being true to
yourself your art. So what question would
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you ask you in an interview?
Why don't you sign a record deal?
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I kind of answered it, but yeah,
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you did the creative control. Because
our singer so he and I grew
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up together in small town Texas.
He writes, produces like nine of everything.
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He writes. Some by to the
business side, Like after having the
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LA experience highering guitarists been at labels, I geek out on the business side
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and I see the realities of it. So, like I was telling you
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earlier, unless there's a label that
really believes in us, it's not really
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about money with us or ownership.
We just want to know. The partner
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is like, all right, we
want y'all to go number one. We
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want y'all to win. That's what
we're looking for, is just to win.
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It's not like we don't need a
million dollar advance. It's just who
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wants us to succeed. I love
that because if they don't believe in you,
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how can you trust to believe in
them? That's my viewpoint, you
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know, yeah, yeah man,
Well, I mean I appreciate you making
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the time for unsigned ban you know, at Blue Ridge to give us an
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interview. My pleasure. And you
know, listen, you guys are badass.
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You're playing at Blue Ridge and people
need to check you out. So
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how do they check you out?
On socials, on the web, and
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most importantly your merch because you can't
survive without that. Yes, so our
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website is Kingdom collapse dot com.
But then we're on Spotify, Apple Music,
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Pandora, all the above, YouTube, everything's there but merch. Like
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you said, it's Kingdom collapse dot
com. Are you on TikTok? We
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are now on TikTok. As much
as we have fought it, we realize
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how important it is, So we
are we are on TikTok. So is
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there a TikTok you did that?
You're like really embarrassed. No, But
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what pisses me off It is like
our biggest TikTok is a good friend of
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ours cooking burgers South Dakota, stupid
South Dakota. It has like fifty thousand
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views, and it's like, okay, so fuck our music, screw a
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music. It's like, all right, go grills and burgers. Yeah,
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I mean it's so stupid. I
have my daughter's boyfriend got one hundred and
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sixty thousand followers from solving Rubik's Cubes. See, well there, that's way
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more than that TikTok. So you
see now that's what you need to do.
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Just play your music with Rubik's cubes. That's the answer. That's it.
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That's how you that's how you're gonna
make it. And then some record
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label it's gonna be all about the
Rubik's Cube and they're gonna be like,
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we believe in you. I have
a college degree. I'm kind of an
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intellect day to a Ruby's qube,
but I can solve math. You know
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what. I never asked that I
should ask artists when you have a day
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job, like you do, what
does it feel like when you go back
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to that day job after being at
a festival? So I say day job,
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It's like I had eight thousand day
jobs. But I told you I
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have my degree, but I have
a real estate license. I teach music
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lessons when I'm home. I'm very
fortunate with all the people I work for.
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They know what I'm doing, but
they know when i'm home I work
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for them. Basically, my whole
setup is like nine to five, I
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work on the band and some real
estate stuff. But at night it's like
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the lessons. But it's but I'm
smart enough to know I should work when
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I'm home and not just rely on
Yeah, oh my band's gonna get signed.
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We're gonna get a million dollars.
I know right nowadays and how it
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works, and our whole band,
they're not here right now, but all
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of us were at home. We
we make sure we can get by.
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You know, it said listen.
Everybody hates to say it, but Laura's
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was right. They all hated him
for the napster thing, but he was
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right. No, he was.
I mean, and we're not complaining about
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streaming like the bands who don't get
streams are wanting to complain like we do
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well on Spotify. It's like,
of course, we all want to make
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a million dollars, but we're happy
with you, yeah, with our half
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a cent, but we get a
lot of streams. So where there you
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go. Yeah, so it goes
back into the business and we're we're fine
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with it. Like, see,
that's a good perspective on because it's true,
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like maybe you make less, but
if you're getting all these streams you
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would never get in a million years
the traditional way it works out. Yeah,
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and people are exposed to you and
that's what happened, and then they
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love your music and become super fans
and that's key. I think that's better.
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Yeah. Do Even today first band
on mainstage where we had a lot
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of shirts lined up at the rails, we were like, damn, we're
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we're doing something right. I know
we're not. We're not up there yet,
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We're not laws, were not metallicity
yet, but there's something something brewing
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you maybe because you guys rock and
I thank you for being here at blue
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Y Well. We appreciate you bringing
us on. Hey, my pleasure.
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Thanks for being on the Adventures plate
Man. Thank you for listening to the
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