June 7, 2026
Sal of Sworn Enemy at Milwaukee Metal Fest - PipemanRadio Interview
Pipeman speaks with Sal of Metalcore Band Sworn Enemy at Milwaukee Metal Fest. https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-adventures-of-pipeman--941822/supporthttps://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-adventures-of-pipeman--941822/support for PERKS, BONUS...
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Hi, you have done too.
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Yes, that's true.
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Se Wow for you.
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You say, it's the pipe Man here on the Adventures
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of Pipe Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm
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here with so sworn enemy in the house. Nice and uh.
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We were hanging out together, not knowing each other, waiting
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for the publicists to connect us for the interview.
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That was quite funny, wasn't it.
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I know right, It's like and she she was saying
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to me, She's like, uh, I don't know where he is.
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He says, he's by this sign that says must have pockets.
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And then I'm like, oh, that is the dude that
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was standing next to me.
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Having an awkward moment when I'm trying to get up
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on the ledge over here.
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I know that.
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But and I said to you third times a charm,
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and you did on the third time.
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The third time. I got it.
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It is a high. I mean to be fair, to be.
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Fair, that's easy I should have been.
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I'm trying to give you kudos.
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Man.
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You know, I'm trying to save your reputation, not that
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it could probably be saved at this point maybe.
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This point, who knows.
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Oh man, So here we are at Milwaukee Metal Fest.
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How bad. Is this? This is crazy? I love it.
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I mean, I'm having a good time so far. I've
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only been here for four hours and it's been amazing.
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I've seen so many people I know already.
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I just bring around aimlessly and Hey, South, what's up, y'all?
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South's going on? South? Y'all? Sworn enemy? Sworn enemy? What's up?
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You know what's funny about that?
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Okay?
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So your friends walked up while we're staying here, and
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I heard the word interview out of my out of
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my ear. I'm like, oh, I bet you one of
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them is probably the one I'm interview. And so I
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got to listen to see how fucked up other interviews were.
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Now those are just friends, no interview by I know.
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They weren't interview. I just heard the word interview. So
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I'm like tune it in, Like all right, let me
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see what I shouldn't fucking do?
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You know?
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But I do feel that way, like interviews in metal
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should not have a script. They should not, you know,
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like it should be a conversation number one, number two.
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If you're a metal head or a punk and you
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need a script, there's something wrong.
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I agree, I don't you know, you see some people
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who do the interviews, they have a paper with all
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that questions.
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It's like it's gotta be more organic.
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Yeah, and you know what, I watch it like it
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it looks that way like you're reading it, you know,
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And it does start you off, because what if I
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were the artists and I know artists that do this,
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they'll throw you off so that you're like.
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Where am I?
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Where am I? Like this way, I'll give a fuck
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where the interview goes. Well, just let it like take
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a life of its own.
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Exactly. I agree, And those turn out to be the
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best interviews.
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Oh yeah, cause you find out some great stuff. Like
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earlier today I did an interview upstairs and we had
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the backdrop was the hotel across the street.
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That's nice.
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And I made a comment, Now, I didn't put two
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and two together at first, Like yesterday I bought one
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of the shirts up here as Dahmer on the back right, Yeah,
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it's Wisconsin that I put together. I didn't put that
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hotel together. And that's the spot. And so I was
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talking about they had a new song Flesh. I'm like,
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you know, is that about Dahmer? Since we're here, and
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then they brought up that's the hotel right there.
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I'm like, doma hotel.
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Well, an idiot, I didn't put two and two together,
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you know, yep, but that is a trip like that.
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We're right across the street.
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How many people got killed in that place?
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Oh my god? Like I think that's where they have
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artists catering though, I'll pass.
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If that's where I got to go to eat, I'll
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pass on that.
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Oh my god.
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So have you ever played this fuss before?
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A few times?
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Yeah, yeah, back in the day. We haven't played two
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thousand and four. Yeah, a few times before that, Like
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I think two thousand and one we played there, two
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thousand and two and two thousand and four, that would
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be the last time.
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So from your short time here so far, what do
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you think of it with Jamie taking over? How the
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festival is now awesome?
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I mean, if you take a look around, there's people everywhere.
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Everything is running smoothly, there's anything you need, you know,
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they're taking care of the bands.
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There's an artist lounge, just catering.
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You know, it's all the stuff that you would ask
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for if you were in a band you're getting.
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See.
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I love hearing that because, as you know, more than anybody.
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There's some festivals that are like that, and there's some
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that are really a disaster.
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Well, if you notice the ones that are a disaster,
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those are the ones that don't really last long.
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Exactly so, and I also know's they're the ones that
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don't take care of.
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The artists absolutely. You know, Jamie is an artist.
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He knows he's been doing Hate pread since what ninety three,
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ninety four, So he understands the concept of taking care
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of people because there's times when I'm sure when he
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first started out he wasn't getting taken care of, and
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he doesn't want anybody to feel like that, so he
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makes sure that he takes care of everyone. I know
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Jamie for a long time, and that dude has always
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been one of the best people that I know. He
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totally helped us with our career getting started, Like he
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put us out on his record label, still Born back
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in the day.
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He got us tours. We played so many shows with Hatebreed.
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He put us on so many Stillborn fests, and even
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to this day, he's still hooking us up, blessing us
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with the Milwaukee Metalfest. He blessed us with the thirty
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years of Hate preed last year in Hartford, we played
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that the Oakdale Theater. I mean it's a forty eight
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hundred capacity plays and he is asking a band like
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us to join him in my celebration of the thirty
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years that he's been playing.
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So and you don't find that a lot, do you?
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No? That dude is a hard worker, a great guy.
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Good for the scene, and any any other good words
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that I could think of throwing there, because he deserves
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all those.
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Adjectives absolutely, And like his first time, I'm doing Milwaukee, Malifess,
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I go on tour and I do festivals all over
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to US, UK and Europe, and this always overlapped with
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something else I was doing. But I'll tell you I'll
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do this every year because just the way the vibe,
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the way it is, it's like it's old school.
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Yeah.
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I was at the Violin show last night and I
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sent I send videos to my door because it was
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it was old school crazy like CBGB's crazy. Yeah, And
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I bet and I sent it to my door. My
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door is like, oh, is that how you knocked out
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your front teeth? Because all the people are stage. Because
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I did like in La way back when climbed up
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until Marshall Stack went full swan, crowd moved hit the floor,
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and I was having flashbacks to that last night, but
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in a good way. I wasn't gonna do it, but
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I was watching, like this is the way it should be,
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you know, like a lot of the festivals you do,
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you're like this far apart from the stage and the
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band is separated from and it's like Sean Wents just
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having the best time as of his life because he's
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interacting with the crowd, which is great.
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And that's how it's supposed to be.
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You know, it's supposed to be intimate atmosphere like that
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where you could go like this and say yo to
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the guy in the front right in front of you,
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just give him a pound or whatever. You know what
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I'm saying, give him a fist bump or whatever.
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You know, it's all that's how it's supposed to be.
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That's part of what the fun is, and that's what
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hooks people like you and I in even when we're young. Yes,
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you know, like one of my interviews later is with
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my longtime friend Joey Era have armored saying and basically
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that's how I got so into it because I was
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one of the first club shows I ever went to,
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and it was like, all of a sudden, you know,
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they're hanging out with you. You're a teenager there hanging
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out with you. And then it becomes this thing that
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where you're part of something, yes, and all of us
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are the people that weren't part of something well, and
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now we're a family.
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That's one correct that I mean in this scene, it
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is so as huge as it is, it is so
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small because everybody it's a community.
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Everybody knows everybody. Yeah.
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You know, like even if you don't know somebody, that
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person knows somebody and you're friends with that person. They
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introduce you and you wind up knowing that person. It's
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like everybody knows everybody.
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Yeah. And what's cool about nowadays, and I'm sure you
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have noticed this too, is I was a long hair
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back in the eighties. I couldn't go to hardcore or
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punk shows. I get my ass beat, but I wanted
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to and vice versa.
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You know what's funny. I was a metal head back
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in the day. I had long hair. Used to have
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to be careful of some certain shows. If I went
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to see the Chrome Eggs, I would have to stand
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in the back right now.
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I remember, back in the day before Suicidal crossed Over,
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they would be in the pit with switchblades to suey boys.
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Wow. See that's crazy.
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And it's like fuck that, you know. Or like I
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was telling this story yesterday, there was this place in
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the valley on Melrose called Posers and that was like
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the best place to get your spikes. Metal Heads couldn't
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go there though, because punks owned it. So I took
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a couple of my punk friends. I'm like, hey, bring
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me to Posers, and we go, and they were friends
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with the owners. I'm there for like thirty seconds and
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my friend comes up to me. He's like, we need
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to leave, and I'm like, what do you mean. I'll
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tell you outside. We need to leave right now. Wow,
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it's like that, and he said. The owner pulled them
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aside and said, the fuck are you doing bringing that
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long here in here? Because you're a friend of mine,
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will let you take him out. If he's not out
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of here in like thirty seconds, we're gonna.
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Beat his ass.
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I always thought that was so stupid, Like the jocks
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were kicking our ass in school, band together, and we're
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just similar type of music, and that's what we have today.
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We're banded together, one big family. It doesn't matter song, hardcore, metal, whatever,
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big Melton pot now exactly, and we all get along
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better than everybody else in society.
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I agree, especially nowadays, I agree with.
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So anything you want to talk about that we haven't
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discussed already that you have coming up on the horizon.
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Well, I'm super stoked. This summer we're gonna go to
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Europe at Bilehozard No. So we're gonna spend a couple
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FM Music Management for hooking that.
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There you go, Jeff Buttermark, dude, Chris Canela, great dude,
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