Oct. 5, 2026
Senses Fail Talk 25 Years, Authenticity, and New Music at Aftershock 2026
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RSS Feed In this episode, Pipeman is joined by Buddy Nielsen and Steve Carey from Senses Fail for a candid conversation backstage at the Aftershock Festival. They reflect on 25 years as a band, the evolution of their music, the importance of authenticity, festival stories, punk deep dives, and playful band-name trivia. The discussion also touches on nostalgia, upcoming music, and the ever-changing landscape of rock festivals.Main Topics Covered
- Memories and highlights from major rock festivals (Aftershock, Rockville, Rock on the Range, Northern Invasion)
- Senses Fail’s journey across 25 years in the music industry
- The impact of nostalgia and authenticity in modern music
- Comparing festival vibes and the perks of “home turf” shows
- Touring stories and punk/metal fan culture
- Upcoming music releases and what to expect next from Senses Fail
- Band-name trivia and deep cuts in punk history
- Reminiscing about past festivals: Pipeman, Buddy Nielsen, and Steve Carey recall interviews at Aftershock 2023, Rockville, and Rock on the Range, with Steve Carey joining the band in 2018 and experiencing his first festival with Senses Fail 00:33.
- Steve Carey and Buddy Nielsen praise Aftershock for its unique layout, atmosphere, and proximity to their West Coast home base 01:45.
- Discussing the festival’s forested vibe and cautionary tales about fans climbing trees during headliner sets 02:54.
- Marking Senses Fail’s 25th anniversary milestone in February 2027 and reflecting on the challenges of staying relevant in an industry obsessed with the “new and next” 04:14.
- Buddy Nielsen highlights how enduring bands connect deeply with fans during their formative years, fostering lasting loyalty 05:15.
- The resurgence of nostalgia and “realness” in music versus formulaic or AI-produced songs. Steve Carey emphasizes the importance of authenticity for today’s successful bands 06:48.
- Buddy Nielsen on avoiding creative stagnation: new music shouldn’t follow a formula but instead feel inspired and true to themselves 07:11.
- Teasing upcoming releases: a run of shows celebrating the 20th anniversary of “Still Searching” and plans for new music leading into the 25th anniversary 08:15.
- Steve Carey describes experimenting with heavier, more technical styles while preserving the core Senses Fail identity 08:48.
- Buddy Nielsen on taking creative risks: “I’m never going to play it safe… sometimes you swing and miss, and, you know, I think this is a home run” 09:03.
- Swapping stories about legendary bands (Metallica, Slayer, GBH, Suicidal Tendencies, MDC, Operation Ivy, Flux of Pink Indians, Gay Bikers on Acid) and the enduring appeal of the punk/metal underground 11:04.
- Buddy Nielsen shares memories of managing the drummer from Turnstile—an “overnight success” years in the making 10:39.
- Anecdotes about meeting Jello Biafra at Aftershock and interviewing Wadi from The Exploited, plus tales from the ‘80s LA punk scene 12:59.
- Playful back-and-forth about band names and punk “cred,” with Pipeman and Buddy Nielsen trying to stump each other with obscure references 13:00.
- Jokes about which ‘80s band would be “canceled” in 2026, with picks including Mötley Crüe, Poison, and The Mentors 18:02.
- “If you could stick around for 10 years, let alone another, you know, that 15 after that, I mean, I don't know. It's hard to quantify.” – Buddy Nielsen 04:44
- “There’s a perfection to the genre… there’s an imperfection in the way, in what [Ross Robinson] did, that people are latching on to now because it sounds real.” – Buddy Nielsen 06:24
- “It has to feel inspired. Nobody wants to hear music from people who are uninspired.” – Buddy Nielsen 07:49
- “If you don’t like your own music, how are we supposed to like it?” – Pipeman 10:03
- “All roads to Aftershock start with Chubby Girls.” – Pipeman 16:41
- “I always say, in order to become an overnight success, it takes like 20 years.” – Pipeman 10:54
- Senses Fail:
- Anniversary tour celebrating “Still Searching”
- Upcoming music and 25th-anniversary plans
- Band References & Influences:
- Turnstile, Metallica, Slayer, GBH, Suicidal Tendencies, MDC, Adolescents, Operation Ivy, Flux of Pink Indians, Gay Bikers on Acid, JFA, Flipper, Cocksparrer, The Mentors, The Exploited
- Festivals Cited:
- Aftershock Festival
- Welcome to Rockville
- Northern Invasion
- Rock on the Range
- Wimmer Festivals (produced by Danny Wimmer Presents)
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Hey, you're listening to Adventure Mountain Pummeling on W4CY Radio.
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This is the Pipe Man here on the Adventure's Pipe
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Man W4CY Radio, and I'm here with.
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Buddy Nielsen and Steve Carey from Senses Fail. Nice.
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Here at Aftershock. Yeah. Oh, my God. Last time I
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talked to you at Aftershock was 2023. Yes.
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Yeah, which is not too long ago. It's nice. Good
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to be back.
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I know, right? It's hot this time, though.
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I don't like this. It's too warm. I've talked to
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you in Florida, too.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably Rockville.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I think we did something at Rock on the
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Range or something. That sounds about right.
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Yeah, yeah. Rock on the Range.
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That's going back.
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2018.
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Yes. Yes, 2018. Spring 2018. Yeah.
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I had just joined the band.
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Your memory is good, man. Because it swirls in my
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head sometimes. Like, you do all these festivals and, like,
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you guys talk to so many people. It's like, you remember,
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but you can't pinpoint it.
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Yeah, that was probably, like, my first Wimmer Festival in
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the band playing drums.
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I think that's why I remember that.
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Nice.
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Yeah, we had done, well, didn't we do, after we
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did Northern Invasion?
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I was there, too, but I don't think we talked there,
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but I was at Northern Invasion.
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Played perfect circle on that one and avenge for the other.
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Yeah. Nice. So, so what do you think of all
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the Wimmer festivals? Which one's got the coolest vibe to
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you guys?
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Dude, it's, it's got, I'm swear to God.
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It's not because we're here, but it is aftershock. I,
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it's one of my favorite, especially the one stage with
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the overpass over it.
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Oh yeah. That's pretty.
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Anyone can come and kind of watch the, watch the
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show as it's popping off.
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You know? Yeah, I just saw that the first time
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today because I didn't get to get out of here yesterday.
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I walked down there, I'm like, now that's pretty cool.
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I saw people at the Overpass.
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Yeah, it was cool. We headlined, last time we played,
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we headlined that stage. It was great.
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It was like, I don't know, one of my favorite
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festival moments that we've had. Because we got to headline
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the stage at a Wimmerfest, which was just awesome. And
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there were construction workers watching us and people watching us.
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So it was super fun. I really like Aftershock. It's
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the closest one to where we live. Because we live
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in Vegas and we're West Coast based.
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There you go. now. Um, and it's the one that
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feels like I drove, I drove here.
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See, that's cool. You know, I feel that way about
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Rockville cause I live like three hours from Daytona. So
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I drive, I'm like, Oh good. I can drive in
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my own vehicle and you know, chill. Uh, but what
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I do love about aftershock is the vibe with the
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trees and everything. Like Go ahead.
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No, it's nice to just have that. It feels like
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you're in a little forest.
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Right?
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And actual sun coverage, too.
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That's nice. Yeah, and have you noticed, like, for the headliners,
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there'll be people, like, sitting in the trees. It's pretty wild.
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Yeah, which is kind of not.
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Well, no, not with what happened.
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Yeah, I don't want to discuss that, but no, you
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don't recommend that.
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Don't sit in trees.
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Yeah, especially if you're drunk.
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Don't sit in trees if you're drunk, or period.
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I mean, I don't really even let my kids climb trees.
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Well, my daughter, okay, she was climbing a tree in
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our backyard when she was like eight or And she
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fell and ruptured her spleen and almost died.
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Did they have to emergency take it out?
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No. The doctor, the surgeon was great. Saved it. Didn't
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have to take it out, but Like, if she didn't
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have such a great surgeon, they probably would have.
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Wow, that's terrible. Yeah, don't climb trees.
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Yeah, there's the moral of the story.
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Yeah, don't climb trees.
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Maybe that should... You guys are going to come out
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with some new music. Maybe that should be a new
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song right here now. Yeah, yeah.
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Don't climb trees.
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Yeah, right. I get it. Yeah.
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It's self-explanatory. Right.
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Okay, so... We got a lot of stuff going on now. Like,
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I can't believe 25 years.
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Yeah.
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We've been a band as February next 2027. It'll be
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25 years for the band.
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Does that blow your mind or what? I don't even
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feel like I'm over 25 years old. No. Yeah.
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It's a long time to do anything, let alone be
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in a band, you know?
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Right.
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I feel like this industry in general is always trying
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to kind of push you out.
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Just not on purpose.
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It's just sort of a, you know, what's new, what's
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next type thing. All kind of pop culture is. So
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if you could stick around for 10 years, let alone another,
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you know, that 15 after that, I don't know. It's
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hard to quantify.
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That says something about your band, though. For real.
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To withstand the valleys, you know, the peaks and valleys.
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Oh, no doubt. We were just hanging out with the
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drum tech of Limp Bizkit last night and he was
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talking about how Limp was way up. Then he was
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way down, then he was way up again, then he
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was way down, and now he's playing all the festivals again.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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If you give up or leave, if you don't do that,
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especially if you have records that people love from their youth,
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It's always something that's going to be there, you know,
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for a section of people. If you're lucky enough to
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like connect with somebody, an artist or like a fan
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when they're in their like formative years, that kind of
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never really goes away. And you kind of are hopefully
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can always communicate with those people.
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Well, and what I found too, well, what we were
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talking about and he says like we were talking about this.
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I think with all the new bands doing this formula
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for making music, that there's been a resurgence of the
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nostalgia of going back to that time. Like your band,
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like anybody else that was making music for real back then.
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No AI, no music. None of this other stuff.
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There's an imperfection to the genre, even in Limp Bizkit.
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They influenced me, and specifically the guy who recorded all
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that stuff, Ross Robinson. I mean, there's an imperfection in
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the way, in what he did, that people are latching
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onto now because it sounds real. And that's what younger
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people are like, oh, I want real. Whatever that is,
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I'm going to go look for that versus... it's just
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everybody's getting fed everything to your face and you don't
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really have as much control over what you like and
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I think a lot of people are pushing back on that.
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Yeah, it's benefiting bands that lean on authenticity.
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Yeah, and I love that because it's been bothering me
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for a while. it's almost like they take an algebraic
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equation to make a song to me and that's weird. Like,
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you go back to like when you guys first started,
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you just experimented and made what sounded good to you,
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you know?
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Yeah. I mean, that's still sort of what we do.
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And I try to, I try to keep that as
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much the center of it.
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Like I don't really want to do anything that doesn't,
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that I don't feel inspired by. So I try to
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retain as much of that in the way that we
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continue to make new music, which is why with a
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new song sound a little, they don't really sound like
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a formula. Like you're going to hear these songs and
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you'll be like, They don't sound like we did because.
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You can't redo what you did.
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And why would you want to?
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Why would you want to? And that's not what even
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our fans want.
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No.
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But it's got to feel authentic to the band and inspired.
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It has to feel like inspired. Nobody wants to hear
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music from people who are uninspired.
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Right. Exactly. And I heard somebody in an interview say
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something about if you want so-and-so album go listen to
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that album like and so and speaking of which like
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so you can go listen to the 20th anniversary because
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you have a 20th anniversary that's wild too.
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Yeah yeah this is our 20th anniversary of our biggest record,
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Still Searching, and we're doing it.
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We're traveling all around the country. We're going to Florida.
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We're going to St. Pete playing... Where are we playing?
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Janis Landing. And it'll be awesome. And then we're going to.
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It's like our last hurrah and our nostalgia for a minute.
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And then we're going to celebrate our 25th anniversary by
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releasing a ton of new music.
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I love it. And so how can we compare the
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new music, more so than you've already said, to... What
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you were still searching for at the time.
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I mean, we're dabbling in a lot more heavier technical
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styles of music, but it's still Senses Fail.
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Right.
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Buddy's always going to be Buddy, no matter what type
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of music that you throw under it, you know? But yeah,
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there's some chances on there that we're taking.
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Yeah, we took a lot of chances, because it's like,
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I don't really want to... I'm never going to play
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it safe. I've never done that. And sometimes you swing
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and miss. I think this is a home run. I've
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done this enough to know when we make a record
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that's going to work versus when it's not. And sometimes
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that record doesn't work, and that's fine because that's the
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music I wanted to make.
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But this is not that time.
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I feel like it's the music I want to make
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and the music I know people want to hear.
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See, I think that's more important than anything also. And
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then going back to the point you said, like, Isn't
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that what you did in the beginning, 25 years ago?
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It's like you're not doing anything different. I think that's
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how you still get the juice for doing it. Well,
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it's obvious.
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You can tell music that's made for X reasons and
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music that's made for Y reasons. And generally the bands
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that really succeed and succeed over time are the ones
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who make music. that is the music they want to
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be making.
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Right. Because, listen, if you don't like your own music,
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how are we supposed to like it? I mean, it's
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a transfer of emotion. We can tell.
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Of course. You know?
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And then when you're going to play live shows, like,
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If you're not playing what you want to play, it's
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not very fun. And that's supposed to be the most
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fun part of the gig.
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Never assume the listener can... Well, you'll just put one
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past them. They will tell if you're not authentic.
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And I always say, you attract your own tribe then.
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If you're just being yourself, you'll get your people.
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Yeah, it might take a long time, but that's generally
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the bands that are like, where'd this band come from?
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Everybody's like, what's this turnstile band?
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I'm like, dude, I've been.
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I used to manage the drummer in another band. They
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didn't just come from anywhere. They've been doing this for
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You know what I mean? But sometimes it takes 10,
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I always say, in order to become an overnight success,
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it takes like 20 years.
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Yeah, exactly.
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And you think of bands like Metallica, okay? I saw
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them from the very beginning. Like, for ten years, they
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ate bologna sandwiches with no bread and slept on the floor.
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Yeah, I mean, even Injustice for All was, like, clubs.
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