March 4, 2026

A Discussion with Chris Barron of The Spin Doctors at Delray Garlic Fest

A Discussion with Chris Barron of The Spin Doctors at Delray Garlic Fest
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Season 20, Episode 29 of The Adventures of Pipeman. 

Delray Beach Garlic Fest made a  stinky, bittersweet return to Old School Square.
Leading the bill was New York alt-rockers Spin Doctors (“Two Princes”), Garlic Fest’s first national headliner in six years.

Pipeman chatted with Chris Barron about headlining the South Florida Festival plus he shared some great insight of the band's career and told some great stories in the history of the band.

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Hey, you love then too, Yes, that's true.

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For see why for you you.

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Mute before you that's what us princes, you just gods

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doubles his bark is that's I've read now this one

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sitting most about your rockets pain in.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures Pipe

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Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm here with.

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Chris Barron of the world renowned spin doctors, ladies and gentlemen.

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Nice here at Delray Beach at the Garlic Festival. I

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am so pumped about this because I saw you at

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Bourbon Beyond and this is actually my home town and

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I'm leaving for Costa Rica at like six point thirty

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in the morning and I saw you guys headlining here.

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I was like, oh my god, all these years of

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this festival and this is like the best year yet.

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That's amazing. You're going to Costa Ria.

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Yeah, I'll be surfing tomorrow. I'll be here at your

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show in the rain and then surfing tomorrow.

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Surfing in the sun tomorrow. That sounds great.

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There it is there, it is. Well, the rain went

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away for you guys, like it never rains this time

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of year. And then it was like there was this

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major thunderstorm and now it's gone. Yeah, yeah, it was.

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I was in the hotel. It was like lightning, and

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it was very dramatic. We you know, we're spin doctors

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dramatic exactly. So I want to hear the story about

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you at the rental car place and doing an impromptu

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acoustic Yeah. Me and John Hampson, we did a gig

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in Chicago, like a songwriter thing, and the weather was

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really bad. The flights were going sideways. We're getting notifications

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even the night before. So we got to O'Hare at

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you know, like nine o'clock in the morning, and we're

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just in the in the Delta lounge, like we're both

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Delta guys. We're like in the Delta lounge waiting for

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the plane to take off, and the plane just starts,

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you know, delaying and delaying and delaying. And we looked

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at each other and mind you you know, we're going

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to New York. And we look at each other right

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there in Chicago and we're like, let's run a car.

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Let's get out of here. We're gonna drive from New

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York to Chicago. It's sixteen seventeen hours, right, and we

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just made the call and you know, we're both like

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old road dogs, like we did all the math in

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our heads, and we're like, these flights are you know,

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we're not going to take off tonight. We might take

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off tomorrow. Best move. So we go down to the

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baggage claim. I had checked a bag and they were like,

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I might take a while for your bag to come out.

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I was like, can you send it to my house?

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They were like yep, and I was like great, So

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we just you know, just just like left my bag behind.

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And we got down to the rental car place. We

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walk in there and it's deserted, right, there's nobody there,

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and it's just those like young kids, you know, like

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twenty somethings, you know, behind the counter. We walk in

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with our guitars and one of them is just like,

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play us a song and we'll give you an upgrade.

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And I was like seriously. And they had no idea

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who we were. You know, They're like seriously and I

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was like seriously, and they're like, yeah, so pull out

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the guitar, play two princes. John pulls his phone out,

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Their phones come out, you know, play like fully, two princes.

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Finish it. They're like, wow, that was great man, and

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I was like, hey, before we get in the car,

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can I can I use your bathroom? And they're like yeah.

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So I go in the bathroom and John's just like,

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you know, that's the guy, right, And they're like wait,

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what that's the guy. So I come out of the bathroom,

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they're all ticket selfies and we like we get in there,

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they give us an Audi, like they give us this

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beautiful you know suv audi. We know we're gonna be

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driving right into the snow. This it's great to have

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like a four wheel drive vehicle. And we're just like

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putting John John John likes to drive. I like to

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drive to but John's like kind of like, let me drive.

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I like to be the guy behind the wheel, and

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like great, I'm just as happy to ride as to drive.

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Put his foot on the gas, start rolling out. We

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look and just as we're pulling out, just like a

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torrent of people like realizing that the you know what

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I mean, realizing that everything's going to be totally delayed.

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There's a line of like fifty people I'm waiting for cars.

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So you know, we were like decisive. Our decisive action

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paid off, and then our musical talented paid off as well.

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I mean, you made those people's maybe life, if not

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just night, Like that's an incredible experience for them to

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just I love when artists do that, like, you know,

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because you're just real people and you're in that situation

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you're just like, hey, what the hell, I'll play it

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and play it. And I was watching the video and

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those people look like you just changed their life.

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That's fun. I mean, it's fun to be able to

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like just sort of be a mild mannered like person

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and then suddenly just pull out a guitar and people

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are like, wait, what the hell is going on? Because

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you know, I mean, I'm like a highly trained musician.

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I've been you know, nominated for a Grammy and whatever.

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You know, like I can really play guitar, and obviously

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I'm a professional singer, and but you know, I just

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like go around in my life and I you know,

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I don't try to make a big deal out of

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being you know, the guy from the Spin doctors and

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it's sort of a be level celebrity anyway, you know.

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At this point, I mean I used to walk into

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a mall and you know, three hundred kids that's around me,

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and you know, I'd be signing an autograph, trying to

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buy underwear, you know, but you know, at this point, oh,

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thanks dude.

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I appreciate he got to cuig working.

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But like you know, and now I'm just sort of

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like walking around people recognize me. Sometimes a lot of

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times they don't, you know, but like you know, when

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you know and and and you know, I'm the lead

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singer of the Spin Doctors. I don't play guitar with

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the Spin Doctors, but I do a lot of low

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gigs and I play, you know, guitar on the solo gigs.

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And I've worked really hard for years and years and

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I'm a pretty accomplished guitar player. And it's funny because

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you know, I'll take a guitar with me, and if

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I'm in an uber or something like that, you know,

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and I got more than like the ride is more

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than like five minutes, I'll pull the guitar out. And

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you know how uber is, like you don't want to

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get a bad rating or something like that. So before

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I pull the guitar out, I'm always just like you know,

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you might if I play the guitar, and they're invariably

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they're like, no, that's some of them are like okay, great,

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and some of them are like okay.

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You know.

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Then you pull out the guitar and you're sitting there

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and you're like, you know, like they think it's you're

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gonna be like strumming like some weird thing, and you

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pull out the guitar and you know, like really kind

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of playing something and it's funny. Some you know, and

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some people, some uber drivers, you know, like like you know,

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fair across section of the population are really into music.

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So it's fun. And you know, usually they're you know,

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they might be from anywhere in the world and which

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is cool, and they might be, you know, have like

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a completely different musical kind of tradition from where I'm

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coming from. But it's just fun like playing music, and

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then you know, after a while, there's like, holy shit,

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who is this guy?

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Right?

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Right?

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What I gotta think if I were like an uber

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driver and you did that, I'd be like, Wow, that's

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way cool. That doesn't happen every day, you know, Like

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you get lots of rides, when do you get a

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musician that just starts playing for you. I've had drivers like.

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More on more than one occasion be like like I've

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been doing this for a couple of years. That was

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my That's the best ride I've ever given. It's nice,

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you know, because I mean I always imagine that would

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be that could be you know, it could be a

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fun job, or it could be boring. I bet it's

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a bit of both, you know. But yeah, I mean,

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you know, I look, I come at music. I see

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music as a service and a science and an art

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and and like, part of the way I see doing

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this is you're you know, part of it is ameliorating

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the suffering of the world, you know, And so the

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more miserable the people you're playing for, by that logic,

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you know, the better job you're doing. I don't know,

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you know, right, Yeah, I mean I'm like I mean

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this to like, you know, not necessarily, you know. I

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don't know if you can make people happy. I don't

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think that's like a realistic objective. But I do think

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that you can cast your spell and take people somewhere

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that they didn't expect to be, and in doing that,

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you can maybe show them a place in themselves where

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they can find some peace.

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I think that's what music's all about. It's like the

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best therapy ever.

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Yeah, I mean, sure, absolutely there's not a single group

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of human beings in the world that don't make some

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kind of music. That's a maybe one of the most

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intrinsically human things is that we all make music.

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It's interesting too, Like I've researched before, like what was

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the first songs and the first music, And it's kind

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of cool to kind of listen to what happened in

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the very beginning when there were no instruments and they

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just kind of improvise.

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Well, I saw, I saw a really cool I was

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just watching a documentary about early humans, like the Stone Age,

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the Neolithic, and a guy comes on and in the

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middle of like just a thing about you know, early

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human beings, tool making and just different things. It wasn't

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like about music, but he this German guy comes on.

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He's like, he's like, you know, we found is this flute.

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It's made from the shin bone of a sheep. This

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is a replica. This is not obviously the original one

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is fifty thousand years old and if you tried to,

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you know, play it, it would disintegrate. But this is

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an exact replica of the one that we found. And

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he starts playing it and he's like, it's in a

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blues scale. It's in a blues scale. And he's like,

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as you can as you can see, it is in

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a pentatonic scale. And I'm like, forty five thousand years ago,

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these guys were playing the blues. You know, they're playing

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like a blue scale. And I was like, forty five

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thousand years ago, someone definitely played smoke on the water,

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like somebody played Smoke on the water on a on

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a bone fluid made from a sheep bone.

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You know.

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So you know, I think I think that, you know,

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I think human beings. I think that we tend to

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forget our you know, the depth of our humanity and

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how and how many things we have fundamentally in common

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with our with our profoundest oldest ancestors, and therefore with

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each other.

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Absolutely, but that does blow my mind, like a sheep's

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shin did you say, and make it into a flute

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like that? That blows my mind.

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look around today and like American society, like the the

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the the de emphasis on art and culture is so profound.

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And I'm fifty eight years old. When I was a kid,

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like you know, there was a lot of a lot

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of rich people instead of like buying up old folks homes,

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running them into the ground and throwing people out into

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the snow, and like and like and and making like

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an industry out of freaking prisons. You know, people were

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people were funding arts. People were like people were like, Oh,

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you want to write a paper about like Greek drama, cool,

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here's ten grand. You want to build a theater to

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you know, to do Shakespeare, great, here's here's like a

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million and a half dollars. Like, people were like putting

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money into the enrichment of of of like their fellow

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human beings, and and that that's like art is not

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a luxury, you know, people, the more the further we

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get away from that, the more violent and and and

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the more the more we the more we turn against

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each other.

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Well, like what they always say when we're a kid,

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music sues the savage beast. So like, I fully believe

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that the big reason that ever, yes, that's actually a

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bugs Bunny quote. The actual quote is music soothes the

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savage breast, and and uh and and bugs Bunny was

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like music suits the standards savage beast. So he made

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a joke out of it, But it's people always say

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the savage beast, but it's actually the savage look at that.

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I love that.

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That was pretty I didn't even know that. And we're

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in the same age.

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I don't know that with Chris barn And you learn

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stuff there you go.

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And that's the point. Art to me has to be

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an education. When they start talking about taking it out

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of education, I think it makes you a well rounded individual.

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I also think that when we didn't have live music,

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that's why we're all so pissed off because he had

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two years of no live music. I think we need

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that togetherness, the therapy and the music, the feeling and

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like when you go to a show, there's no arguing

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and fighting. It's just everybody's there for one purpose, and

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that is to escape all that In music.

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I mean, yeah, you know, I think music can be

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political and and and can challenge people's uh, you know,

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beliefs about the status quo. And I think rock and

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roll is like one of the central uh you know

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characteristics of rock and roll is that that is challenging

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that status quo. Uh but yeah, but but but but

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but but but what makes it, what makes it, you know, transcendent,

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is the is the is the Catharsis, you know, is

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that is that music inherently creates this effic vescence like

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upwelling of of I don't want to say spiritual, but

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but but but soulful, you know, awakening, and so you're

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not It's not like it's not like a gang fight,

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you know, where you're challenging the status quo and like

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everybody's punching each other. It's like this this exchange of

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of you know, sound waves and rhythm and in in

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in that you know, we're sort of wired to have

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that kind of change the way we think about things

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in a positive way.

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I think. So I agree a million percent.

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And so did you ever think way back when when

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you're like, I don't know when did you start playing

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music when you're like five, that you'd be sitting here,

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still doing here in twenty twenty six.

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you know when we started out the span when when

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The Spin Doctor started, our stated objective was to make

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a living playing music. We knew that if we could

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just make a living, like a middle class living, playing music,

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that we would be in the top percentile of all

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musicians everywhere. Of course, we wanted to be on the radio,

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and of course we wanted to achieve you know, whatever

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kind of achievements we could in music, but our but

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our first objective was just to make a living and

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so to again that's what I'm doing, you know, still

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like that that like level unlocked, you know, that quest

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has been unlocked so far. You know, I luckily we

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got two princes in Little Miss cam'p be wrong and

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you know, or like happily just like chugging out those

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songs and the deep cuts of a well and new material,

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but we got you know, we've got these kind of

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workhorse tunes that keep us in the conversation year after year,

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and we're lucky to have them. We're happy to play them.

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And you know, just a note to your listeners. You

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come out and see us, we're gonna play the hits

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because we're not assholes, you know, and we like them too,

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you know. But yeah, I mean it's just like I

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certainly hoped that I would be doing this at this

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point in my life and glad to be doing it.

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Was there one concert that you went to when you

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were younger that like kind of changed your life, especially

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in music.

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I went to see John Denver. I lived in My

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brother and I lived in Well and my parents obviously

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lived in Australia when when we were kids, I went

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to the Horden Pavilion in Sydney to see John Denver.

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And I guess that holds like eight twelve thousand people

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something like that. And my brother and I were like,

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you know, getting closer and closer to the stage, and

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and later on I got the flu that night, so

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I had like I got home, but when I got home,

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I had like a temperature of like one hundred and three,

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so it's like a little bit delirious. We just loved

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John Denver, like he was huge in our house. And

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I guess I was eight, my brother was six, maybe

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I was nine. My brother was seven, and he was

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up there with with a twelve string guitar and you know,

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it's taking him a while to tune it, you know,

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and he was like, well this, you know. He made

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a joke about like it's it's like twice as hard

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to tune because it has twice as many strings or

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something like that, you know, and like the crowd like laughed,

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and I was like, that is John Denver. He's like

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right there and he's singing like Rocky Mountain Hinds like

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tuning a guitar and making jokes about how like you know,

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he's not like a robot that just like can tune

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the guitar. Like he's having a hard time, like too,

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was making a joke and like just like hit me

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so hard, and like, actually, you know these songs that

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we'd like listen to in the car on like cassette,

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on this new fangled contraption called it called a cassette.

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You know, here was this guy like who was actually

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like he was actually like right there and it was absolutely,

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you know, a transcendent experience. But I've had a lot

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of those. I mean, you know, music hit me really

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hard as a young person.

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I'll tell you what, Like it's funny. I think people

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that aren't as into music they don't understand sometimes because

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like I'll talk to why my brothers as an example,

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and I'll talk about how important music is to me

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and the people that I'm around that they're in music,

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and he's and he didn't get it because and he

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likes music, but he didn't get that immersion into the whole,

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like every part of feeling of music.

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It's a great story. My uncle Lenny owned a jazz

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club in in Marblehead. Message's famous jazz club, but you

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can look up. It's called Lenny's on the Turnpike. Historical

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kind of place, and it was really like the archetype

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of like the bebop jazz club, and any jazz legend

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that you could mention played there. And also like Bette

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Midler played there with Barry Manilow as her like a companyist,

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and Muddy Waters and and Felonious Monk was playing. And

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my uncle Lenny was walking him to an interview at

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the local radio station and they went in front of

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the old Empire department store and there was like a

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Salvation Army band playing. It was right before Christmas and

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snow was coming down. The Salvation Army band was playing.

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You know, those Salvation Army bands are like the weirdest combos.

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You know.

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It was like it was like a trombone and like

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a tuba and like a bass drum and a triangle

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or something weird like that, you know, and.

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That was say like triangle or tambourine.

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Yeah, tambourine and like some weird combo and and they're

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and they're playing some you know, funky old like Christmas Carol,

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and Monk just stops and he like his head tilts

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and he bends his ear towards the combo and he

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goes into this reverie and he's just standing there kind

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of nodding his head to the music, and like, you know,

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minute goes by, five minutes go by, and Lenny's like,

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you know, he talked like hep talking, and Monk, man,

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you know, we're gonna be late for the interview. And

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and and uh, Monk like comes out of the reverie

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and looks up at my uncle and he goes, man,

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those motherfuckers are really playing. And I always think about that,

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you know, because I'll be in an elevator, you know,

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and like and actually yesterday on my flight down here,

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there was like some musaic version of of like some

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pop song, some contemporary pop song of the music. And

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a guy was playing like a nylon string guitar. You

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could hear his a nylon string guitars playing a solo

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of the melody on the nylon streen. It was fucking swinging,

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you know. It was like this music weird, like jankie

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music version but this cot was like swinging and and

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uh I was like, damn, my guy's fucking swinging. This

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guy was getting on the plane and we locked eyes

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because he was like locking and we were like is

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that guy swinging or what? And he was like yes.

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We just started laughing and then he just walked.

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On the plane.

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But we had this moment you know, of connection.

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I love it. That's what music's all about is. And

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then and we're gonna connect here tonight at the Garlic

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Fest here in Delray beach Man. I'll tell you what

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it's been. I don't know about you, but it's been

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exciting me for a year. For me because last year

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we had you at Bourban Beyond, which that was one

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of the best Bourban Beyond lineups of all the years

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I've been there. And then here you are here, so again,

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best headliner of garlic Fest ever.

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Thank you, And I guess I should plug. Like this

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summer we're gonna be out with the Blues Traveler and

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the Gym Blossoms again. Spin Doctors, Blues Traveler, Gym Blossoms

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will be all over the country back by popular demand.

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We were out with those guys last summer and we

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got like a bunch of offers this summer to do it,

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and we were so we're just keeping the keeping the

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line up together and going out the summer. Be a

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lot of fun.

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It is a perfect tour.

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You when is this going to go out?

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This will go out this coming week and plug my

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gig next. You can plug anything you want.

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When I'm doing a solo show at the Bitter End

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in New York City March ninth, seven o'clock, I'm on

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a seven plany solo acoustic and then Aaron Colemus of

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the world renowned spin Doctors, our drummer, is going to

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be doing his solo thing at eight thirty. So the

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two of us are playing back to back.

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See I love that too, because sometimes that's you know,

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in music, sometimes spans they don't want you doing solo stuff,

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and the fact that you're both doing solo stuff together,

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that's badass.

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Yeah.

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We we all, we all have Like Eric's got a

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Wednesday night gig in Toronto, blues gig every Wednesday night.

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Aaron does like solo things. He puts like these really

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cool combos together and does like improvisational music. I play

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solo acoustic stuff. Jack owns a studio Dug Deep Productions

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in Asbury Park, and he's always doing stuff and we're

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you know, we're like the best of friends. Those guys

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are like three of my best friends, most important people

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in my life, you know, hanging out with them all

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these years. We've got our ups and downs, but you know,

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here we are, like you know, in our late fifties

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and early sixties, and we're you know, like all that

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bullshit is behind us, and we just concentrate on playing

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great music together.

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That's the way it should be, because like, if you're

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not friends doing this job, that can be hell.

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It's really hard. I see other bands, you know that

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have a ton of ton of friction, a ton of

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like unworked, unresolved kind of shit. And I'll tell you

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what one thing that we do. We have what we

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call morale dinners. And early on we were, yeah, early

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on in the band, like a first out of town

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gig we did in Ithaca, New York. We're going up

455
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to play a little bar called the Nines, and we

456
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stopped somewhere and Aaron, you know, all these guys has

457
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been in a million bands before the Spin Doctors, and

458
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I'm this is my second band, third band, you know,

459
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if those guys have been in a million bands. So

460
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Aaron was like, hey, what about the band pays for

461
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this meal and then we take the money, take it

462
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out of the money at the end of the weekend.

463
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And our manager Jason Richardson was like, uh, oh, I

464
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suppose that would be good for morale. And then from

465
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then on every meal we're like, is this morale? Is

466
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this morale? But now we have like a corporate you know,

467
00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:42.279
now we have a you know, a credit card, a

468
00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:45.359
band credit card, so we you know, like any opportunity

469
00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:48.240
that we get, you know, if we got a night

470
00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:50.759
free somewhere or something, the band goes out to dinner.

471
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We you know, we just like any We just order

472
00:24:54.599 --> 00:24:57.599
anything we want. We get like an expensive bottle of wine,

473
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and we have cocktails. We just hang out. We like

474
00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:02.200
shoot the ship and just like buddies, you know, really

475
00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:04.920
good friends in New York City. Like on my birthday,

476
00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:06.759
we had a big morale dinner with all of our

477
00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:10.640
spouses and you know, kids came out, and my daughter's

478
00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:14.440
boyfriend and you know, we just like we we and

479
00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:17.119
you know, we spent a lot of money around count

480
00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:19.480
is like, what the hell is this? What is this

481
00:25:19.680 --> 00:25:22.799
like three thousand dollars dinner that you guys spend, you know,

482
00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:25.359
and but you know it's like an investment.

483
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You know.

484
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We always joke like, you know, we we you know,

485
00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:30.400
sometimes you're not sure where all the money's going, so

486
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you might as well eat.

487
00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:34.440
It, right And you know what what good is if

488
00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:37.519
you make the money and you know, enjoy life, right, yeah,

489
00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:41.720
and enjoy each other exactly. And it blows my mind too,

490
00:25:41.839 --> 00:25:45.519
probably blows your mind even more that you're still like

491
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playing with Popper, you know, all these years later, like

492
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I mean, a whole.

493
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Career for your listeners who don't know. I went to

494
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high school with John Popper. One day, I was trying

495
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to kind of figure out how to play the harmonica.

496
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And I could play uh love me do, I could

497
00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:06.119
play the rain I couldn't figure out the end of

498
00:26:06.119 --> 00:26:09.319
the thing that rain e mean, Nanine, I couldn't figure

499
00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:12.759
that out. And it's only playing it in this little

500
00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:15.759
vestibule in our high school. And uh, and out of nowhere,

501
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:19.079
this guy in a fedora with like you know, like

502
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:22.039
this great big guy you know that comes out of nowhere.

503
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:24.599
He plays the second half of the thing place part

504
00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:26.799
I don't know how to play with a lot of finesse,

505
00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:29.319
you know. And then in the in the in the sunlight,

506
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:32.640
like there's a window, like in a glint, He's like

507
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:35.000
flipped the harmonica, caught it and put it into it

508
00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:37.640
like a little pocket on his jacket. And I was

509
00:26:37.759 --> 00:26:39.480
just like what the hell? And they walked down. I

510
00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:41.000
ran after he was showed me how to do that,

511
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:43.319
and he's like she refused to. But we became really

512
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good friends, and you know, we've been friends ever since.

513
00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:49.680
And here you are on tour again, like so good

514
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:52.519
together that they want you do a repeat for this year.

515
00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:54.599
That's really unusual. You know, you go out and you

516
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:57.400
do a you do like a lineup that's not in

517
00:26:57.480 --> 00:26:59.720
my career, that's never happened. We've never like gone out

518
00:26:59.759 --> 00:27:03.559
and on a tour all summer long and then doing

519
00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:05.759
the tour again the next year with the same lineup.

520
00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:09.160
It's like, that's really it's really unheard of. And and

521
00:27:09.279 --> 00:27:12.119
we've added a show in so far, we've added a show,

522
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:16.720
uh in Virginia. In Vienna, Virginia at a wolf Trap

523
00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:19.480
is a great venue. We like added a show because

524
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it's the best selling pre sale of the of the

525
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:25.680
summer so far, and so yeah, this you know, when

526
00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:28.200
you when it goes on sale, grab your tickets because

527
00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:30.519
the tickets, it's they're going fast.

528
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:33.519
Anything else you want to plug that's going on this

529
00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:36.839
year while you have the mic and tell everybody how

530
00:27:36.880 --> 00:27:39.960
they can get spin doctors merch and all that cool stuff.

531
00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:42.319
You can get, you know, all kinds of cute merch

532
00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.160
through our website. And you know, I just like to

533
00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:49.559
say that there's a lot of a lot of hate

534
00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:52.960
in this country right now, and you know, the only

535
00:27:53.319 --> 00:27:56.839
the only constitutional rights you can depend on are the

536
00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:01.640
constitutional rights that are afforded to the weakest and the

537
00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:07.400
most reviled people in the society. You let them take

538
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:10.599
the rights away from the people you don't like. Believe me, baby,

539
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:12.920
they're come a fewer rights too. They're not gonna stop

540
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:14.720
with the people you don't like. That's just a dress

541
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:18.000
rehearsal to take away everybody's rights. So just you know,

542
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:21.880
just try and think about think about the bigger picture here.

543
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:26.160
It's about more than you know, dunking on the people

544
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:28.319
that you don't like. Let's try and think of ourselves

545
00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:29.079
as a society.

546
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:33.920
I love that because I missed todays when we were kids,

547
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:38.440
where like you didn't talk about certain things, and then

548
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:40.720
you didn't argue about it, and people could learn from

549
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:43.799
each other. You talk to each other and had differences

550
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:47.519
of opinions without being assholes to each other.

551
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:50.799
Basically, we used to value the differences in our page.

552
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:53.799
We used to value each other. You know, and believe me,

553
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:56.799
there's a place for everybody. And anybody who tells you

554
00:28:57.160 --> 00:28:58.880
that I'm from New York City, I know every scam

555
00:28:59.000 --> 00:29:02.039
there is. Anybody tells you to hate somebody, they're just

556
00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:05.319
ripping you off. Man. It's the oldest trick in the book.

557
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:09.440
There's no trans person or some like immigrant. Look look

558
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:13.160
how they have no power over you. It's the people

559
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:15.759
who are telling you, people who like own these media

560
00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:18.559
companies that are telling you over and over again who

561
00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:23.319
to hate and who's coming after you. That's the the

562
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:25.720
people who are telling you that. That's the people you

563
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:28.119
should that's the people you should be looking out for.

564
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:31.000
The worst saying ever happened once twenty four hour News

565
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:33.559
because now it's not a public service, it's a business.

566
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:37.440
That's right, But we got to spin doctors and there's

567
00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.200
nothing better than that here at Delray in Delray Beach

568
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:45.720
at Garlicfest. I can't wait. And thanks a lot for

569
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:50.359
being here and still making great music after all these years.

570
00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:52.559
Thank you for having me. I really appreciate it. You

571
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:52.880
got it.

572
00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:54.599
Thanks for being on the Adventures pipe Man.

573
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Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Pipe Man

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on w fur c u I Radio

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