Aug. 25, 2025

David Reece of Bangalore Choir Reveals NEW Album Cover & Title

David Reece of Bangalore Choir Reveals NEW Album Cover & Title
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Bangalore Choir have released the the lyric video for the first single "Bullet Train" off the upcoming new BANGALORE CHOIR album to be released on BraveWords Records in late 2025. The new album is titled RAPID FIRE SUCCESSION: On Target Part II.  

David Reece’s BANGALORE CHOIR “Bullet Train” Official Music Video on BraveWords Records: https://youtu.be/jM4emhtgwUY  

Listen to "Bullet Train": https://smarturl.it/bangalorechoir  

RAPID FIRE SUCCESSION: On Target Part II Tracklisting:  

Act 1
01 How Does It Feel
02 Driver's Seat
03 Love And War
04 I Never Meant To
05 I'm Headed For
06 Bullet Train
07 Swimming With The Shark
08 The Light  

Act 2
09 Prisoner
10 The Beauty
11 Sail On
12 Trouble With The Truth
13 Still The Same
14 Blinded By Fire In The Sky
15 Rock Of Ages
16 Mending Fences  

David Reece: Vocals
Diego Pires: Lead and Rhythm Guitars
Eric Juris: Lead and Rhythm Guitars
Andy Susemihl: Lead, Rhythm Guitars & Backing Vocals
Mario Percudani: Lead, Rhythm Guitars & Backing Vocals
Riccardo Demarosi: Bass and Backing Vocals
Nello Savinelli: Drums  

Guest appearances: Jimmy Waldo: Keyboards
Ferdy Doernberg: Keyboards  

Engineered by Riccardo Demorossi
Mixed and Mastered by Thomas Mergler @Tom's Soundranch  

Fans can join the BANGALORE CHOIR email list where they will be kept informed about the new album. Join: https://m.bnds.us/hGGRHB  

David Reece will be hitting the road later this year supporting Girlschool and his BraveWords Records label mates Alcatrazz. David Reece's Bangalore Choir will deliver a blistering set of hits from both Accept and Bangalore Choir, showcasing one of the most distinctive voices in heavy metal.

This tour is also the debut of his relaunched version of Bangalore Choir  

Tickets: https://bit.ly/4j42NUm  
25/Nov Be - Kortrijk | DVG 
26/Nov NL - Tilburg | Little Devil 
27/Nov DE – Kassel | Goldgrube 
28/Nov DE – Passau | Zauberberg 
29/Nov AT – Steyr | Kulturverein Röda 
30/Nov At - Vienna | Escape Metal Corner 
02/Dec CZ – Olomouc | Bounty Rock Cafe 
03/Dec DE - Leipzig | Hellraiser 
04/Dec DE - Nürnberg | Hirsch 
05/Dec DE – Selb | Rockclub Nordbayern 
06/Dec DE – Mörlenbach | Live Music Hall 
07/Dec DE – Dortmund | Musiktheater Piano 
 
Links: 
https://www.facebook.com/share/1HwR7Kvq48/
https://www.instagram.com/david.reece.official
https://www.bandsintown.com/a/1505934
https://www.youtube.com/@davidreece7832


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Hi, you have done to the censure Onulze Wow for you,

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young Hi and David Rison. I'm really excited to review

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for you the album title re cover for the brand

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new bengl Require album. It's Finnish people. I'm really still

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in the autum for the end of the year twenty

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twenty five. The title is Rapid Fire, our Succession on

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Target Part two and here's the album cover. Tw do

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you nick y'all?

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm very excited

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about our next guest because there's some killer new music

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coming out the end of this year. So let's welcome

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to the show. David Reese from Bangalore. I can't even

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speak today.

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Bangalore quiet, Bengalore quiet.

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I know I'm like ton twisted today.

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That never happened to my brain.

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So greetings to you, and I just want to say,

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right off the bat, I have a question, right off

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the bat. You just revealed a new album cover. Is

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that the same model that was in the original on

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Target album? No to see it looks like it could

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be today's version of that.

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Well, that's a good time that similarities struck you.

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But yep, the colors everything, you know, it all looked like.

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Yeah, I mean I I wanted to do on Target

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Park too, So I studied it top to bottom.

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I love it well. You and you were a guy

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keeping the name of the album a hush hush. And

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now we're out and it's coming out the end of year.

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So how is this is the part two? How would

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you say part two is different from part one or

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similar or both?

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I don't know. I would say similar. And it came

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to me. I was in France last year doing a

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bunch of gigs and strangely enough, I live in Italy, right,

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and I played all over Europe in the world, and

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I've never played France. But in my show I played

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four or five songs from a Target every show, and

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the French were going crazy, right wow. And so I

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get in the car and I'm coming home and I'm

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like thinking about branding and the whole thing. David Reese

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is the soul of artist Dave does. Okay, you know

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what I mean, But branding, you know what? That's all right?

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So I called the manager about halfway home and I'm like,

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I'm going to put together Bangalore Choir again. But I'm

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going to call it David Esus bangal or Choir, but

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I'm going to reach out to the some of the

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original guys. Sadly we've lost one who passed away. But Crickets, yeah,

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thanks Crickets. Curtis doesn't want to tour anymore, just not interested.

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Uh Ian the bass player, he and I did some

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stuff a few years ago. He was he was cool,

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but I just went, you know what, I'm not gonna

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take the dead, get out of the garbage sack, try

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to revive it. So you know, the branding thing. I

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want to compare it to like, let's say, Top of

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my Head Mike Tramp and the song good White Line.

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You know that was it. It was just like, you know what,

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this has gone as far as I can take it.

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I need to bring back the band, the brand, and

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everybody was jumping up and down because it really had

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kicked lookings in the high gear. Things started happening quick.

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Probably didn't say much for me as a solo artist,

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but you know, the brand bro and then similar, I guess.

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I went back to on Target and I talked to

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Brave Word's records. I said, I'm going to do this,

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and they said Okay, if you're going to do Bangalore,

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we got to be on target. We got to get there.

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Can we do that? It's a long time ago, man,

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I'll figure out my head s free. So I studied

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the record, even though I've been playing it live. But

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to go back and put your head back in that space,

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not so Andy. Susamil and I my weapon of mass production,

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my go to guitar player. He and I made an

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attempt three or four songs and it just wasn't clicking.

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And then which will soon be the second single with

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a video. It's called a Driver's Seat. When he sent

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me the rip of that I heard slipping away, I said,

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now we're getting it. So I recorded the vocal and

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then we did Bullet Train, which I'm sure you've heard, Yeah,

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and it just all started coming. The thing is that

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it was, you know, I wanted, you know, going back

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to the album, covering everything. I contacted Simon Zouke and

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I said, this is the first album and this is

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we've got to be similar. So we tried to tie

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the nostalgia and everything together, and I think we did.

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I got to say, dude, this is I'm really proud

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of this record.

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Well, that's always good to hear, because you know what,

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when you've been a musician, as long as you have

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to have excitement about what you're doing after this many years,

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that means it's good.

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Well. I mean, and also people like you. I mean,

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the incredible amount of media that I've done and radio,

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it's tenfold what I was getting for the last ten years.

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I mean, it's just and I And that's an attribute

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to you know, brave work doing a really the outreach.

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I mean, they lectured me like a kid going school. Dave,

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your website sucks. You're not on top of the new game.

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I'm an old dog, dude, I don't understand of this.

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So brand Ball really schooled me. And I've got to

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do to keep it the current, get it out there,

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the mass overreach, you know what I mean. So I

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learned a lot thinking that I was reaching the public.

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Not not even close, you know. So I got schooled.

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Right. It's never too late to learn right, right.

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I mean, you know, he even said it, guys, after

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forty you guys are clueless of what's really happening out

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there for people to get a visual or an audio

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of what's going on with you, because like a lot

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of bands. If you look at their page, you know

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they got a new album out, but they still have

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the album from three years ago on the banner, right,

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you know what I mean. And he's making really good

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points and I'm like, well, at least I'm not that

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negative or lame. But he says, you got a long

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way to go, kid, So he's good. I'm learning as

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I go.

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Well, and you know, it's great that you can have

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somebody to coaching you like that so you can be

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relevant nowadays, because I think the resurgence of real musicianship

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is actually happening, but it takes veterans like you guys

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to bring that stuff back.

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Funny you should say that, I just said mister an

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European podcast about an hour ago. He said, the resurgence

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is there, but as you guys, you Oldzheimer's are the

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ones that really know how to deliver. But he did

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say he's seen a lot of young bands kind of

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coming along down that road playing what we kind of

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we're all part of.

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There is some new bands like that are bringing back

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that like seventies.

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Vibe, Bring it, man, bring it.

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No doubt. I was just saying that before, like listen

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music nowadays, isn't like back in our day where like

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now it's so programmatic and like a formula I called

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an algebraic equation to make music, especially metal and rock.

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Okay, it's quantized, it's quantized on a grid, and there's

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not a bad note. I mean, you come from the

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school I do listen to an old except one album

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Plants not singing on key and a lot of those songs.

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But he's delivering the goods. No, Page is not, you know,

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doing this neoclassical what are we going to? Blind made

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speed stuff? And he's playing some bad notes, but it's

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the song. It's a vivor you know, rival sons, BlackBerry Smoke.

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There's a few bands out there, dirty Honey that I'm going. Okay, man,

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come on, guys, you know, I mean BlackBerry has been

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around for a quarter century. But I saw him here

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in Italy not too long ago. And to see a

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thousand Italians sing along with a bunch of hicks from Georgia, right,

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that impressive. Yeah, it was. It was like kind of

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like seeing the new Tom Petty, this organic ground swell. Right.

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There were people there that were like fifteen up to

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like seventy five eighty years old, you know.

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That is something that amazes me nowadays. Like I do

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radio coverage of festivals over the US, UK, Europe, and

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one of the things I noticed first of all is

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when I was a teenager, you weren't going to see

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sixty year olds playing metal, you know, But now the

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kids like, I'm like, how did these kids even know

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some of these bands? But then Europe in particular, so

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the first time I started going over to Europe to

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do festivals, I'm like, holy shit, I thought that band

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didn't even exist anymore, and they were just really playing

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in Europe all these years because they love it.

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Bengalo or Choir. You know, when that naughty little band

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came out of Seattle and changed the world. I knew

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it was a temporary band aid on a new movement

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when we committed suicide to you know, the kind of

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rock we were doing in La and that at that time.

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But I had no idea when Warner Brothers dropped us

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that the grunge movement didn't touch Europe for maybe two

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years later, and that Bengalo or Choir were really big

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in the UK, Germany, especially Scandinavia. Even here we're really

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well known so that's why my songs from that record

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people know the words and they sing along with me

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since nineteen ninety two. And the thing about the European

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fan base, which is something I love. You can throw

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out a few stinker records, but if they love the band,

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they're going to follow you. Yeah, they're not going to

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throw the here today, go on later today mentality. Like

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you know fast food McDonald's music. In America, it's a

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loyalty and they have this tribal thing, this community with

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the festivals. That's amazing. I'm hoping that America comes because

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I really want to bring this over to the States,

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you know, in early April, and we're talking about it

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right now. Of course, I use in America a bunch

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of guys because it's retarded with THESS to bring guys

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from here over. Excuse me, but yeah, I know exactly

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what you mean. I go to see you, like I

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went to see Metallica and there were kids that are

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like eight ten years old and people eighty years old. Right,

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it's crazy.

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You know, and it's fun. I thought of Metallica when

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you were talking about the American mentality and post of

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European because I was at Metallica's first show ever in

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LA and I remember say that again, no kidding, yeah,

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and Slayers first show ever awesome. But uh, I remember

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when the Black album came out and then the twenty

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five you know, core fans of Metallica were like, fuck them,

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they're posers, sellouts, blah blah blah blah blah. You know,

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and it goes along with what you were saying. It's like, uh,

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forget it. But at the end of the day, okay,

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still today this is one of my favorite bands because

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of that, you know feeling that you get the feeling

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that Europeans get when it comes to music and festivals.

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Like I was just talking about this with Jimmy was

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my last interview, and we were talking about I just

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came back from a festival Bloodstock in the UK, and like,

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there were bands playing at ten thirty in the morning

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that nobody knew who they were, but they had the

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same size crowd as somebody like machine Head and ten

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thirty in the morning. You would never see that in

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the festivals I do in the States.

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No, and that's the magic. The first time I played Vaka,

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I remember the next morning, I'm an early bird, so

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I get up and walk through the war zone. There's

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like a mud hole, right, and there's people literally it

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looked like where they've been doing. Mortars been going off,

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and there were people down there in the mud and

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water with their best people standing around on the above

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the hole, kissing on them, singing in their language from

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other country. It was like Viking pirates, you know it.

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That's great.

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I'm wandering the grounds and then you hear a fan

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playing and you look forward and there's ten thousand kids

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that haven't slept, their wing covered in mud, you know.

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And then all day long some of them fall out,

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they get too drunk, of course retired, and then they

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go lay down their tent in the camper. And then

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about seven it gets really crazy here they call the

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army of maniacs. And then by the time it was dark,

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it's it's a beautiful well. Yeah.

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that is like one of the most insane festivals ever.

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Like they say Vakin is the Grande, but I think

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Hellfest is taking that trophy. Now.

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got volcanic here, they got help us. They got another

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one too, I'm doing Headbangers next year with Bangalore and

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I'm doing Volcanic Nice. So that that shows you that,

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like grass pop, last year you had. The cool thing

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is the stage is here, I'm looking at you. We finished,

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the crowd turns their back to you and they're looking

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at the stage on the other side, and there's fifty

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thousand maniacs for four straight days, maybe more night, I

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don't know, but anyway, we sy sort you had Steel

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Panther playing. They can't understand a word they're rambling about,

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but they loved the band. Then you had o Limp Biscuit,

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Slip Knot. I mean you had this big palette something

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for everybody. Yeah, and they were there. It was just

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it was the electorate. Man, the energy was electric.

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I was there last year for grass pop because usually

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grass Pop and Heal Fast is the same weekend. I'm

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always doing hell fests, but last year I was like, oh, cool,

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they're on different weekends because I always wanted to check

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out grass pop And yeah, you're so right, And you know,

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it amazes me how into it people are. Like I'll

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tell you what that olymp biscuit pit was probably one

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of the most brutal pits I've been in, and I've

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been in a lot of brutal pits.

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He just played here. My wife's a huge fan and

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my step son and her the slip up shells when

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they Papa roach and they go cuku. My wife is

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a music fanatic, you know, and she's right there. I mean,

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it's like, be careful, honey, you know, don't wear anything

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sharp and watch out for you don't put on your goggles. Yeah,

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I mean, you know. I mean, but I'm not knocking

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my country. I'm an American, Red white and blue. But

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the fact is that there is a bigger range for

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artists in the European.

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Goun Well, you know, you drive around like I've road

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tripped Europe a few times, you know, and you turn

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on the radio and it's like you you're in back

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to the future, going back to the eighties.

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Angel You don't have one corporate controlled radio station that's

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got the big Master disc playing the same song every

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hour and thirty minutes for the advertisers. You've got Virgin

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Radio here in Milan. You've got Germany's got a few,

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Scandinavia's got a plethora stations. But what's really cool about

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America is even though they're Internet station, there's an underground

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And as I said earlier, I have not had the

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airplay that I'm getting now in at least ten years.

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I mean I just got told the nineties in Baltimore

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in the top ten. Still it came out the nineteenth

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of July.

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I love that.

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Yeah, man, I mean it's like something's going on. I

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don't know what it is, but it's rock and roll

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and that's the beauty of it.

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Get back to the basis.

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I think too, Like the Danny Wimmer festivals. He's tried

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to pattern off of Europe and he's bringing a lot

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of new bands. Like there's this one band it's so funny,

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it's so old school punk, silly Goose. Okay, they showed

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up at a Danny Wimmer festival and we're playing in

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the parking lot, you know, the total old school that's invadeable,

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and Danny was sitting out there watching them, and instead

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of like giving them a hard time and bust them,

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they played on the real stage the next day. And

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now they play a bunch of his festivals.

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Okay, that we lost that you know, for about I

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don't know since ninety five. Yeah, it seemed like that

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kind of got lost, you know. I mean when I

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started out, you know, we would do the five set shows,

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incessantly playing three hundred and fifty days a year, play

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the top covers in rock, try to write some songs,

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and swear to god, I'd never do this again. I'd

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know myself if I have to go back to Rockford

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or oh play Wisconsin, but I would put my balls

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off to do one more grinder like that and a

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stinky vand because you know, we don't know how good

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we happened. I mean, remember those days when you could

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walk out of a club, walk literally down the street

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at after your set, watch a band play and it's

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packed seven days a.

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Week, no doubt. I pretty much lived at the Sunset Strip,

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you know.

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I mean I saw Motley Cruce first gig at the

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Whiskey on Valentine's Day with a band called a La Carte,

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a three piece band opening for them, and we saw

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this marquee of these crazy looking dudes from the VP

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and where crews are on my band, I go look

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at those Francisco see him. We walked in and I went,

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oh my god, this is this is this is earth

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changing something. Something's happening, because they had their street following,

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and I was sitting with Tommy in the hotel them

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doing nefarious things around the theater painter, and I said,

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you know, I'm telling you guy did the whiskey blah

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blah blah and the Valentine's gig with a bank called

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Ala Cart And he like leaves the bed and tackles

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me onto my bed, and I'm like, what said, yeah, man,

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I explained, you know, Mickey liked himself on fire the

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black and white Motley Crue balloons in the garbage shack.

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And he's like, oh, I got and I I knew,

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I just knew. And I saw Mickey brat. You know,

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I saw David Lee Rock walk into a club and

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basically take the place over. Yeah, who's who's his stickhead?

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But you know the thing about him, you believed it,

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even though he thought he was a douchebag. I believe

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that that, you know. Well.

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One of my funniest stories is the eighty three US Festival,

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Van Helen's headlining Metal Day and they're starting to playing,

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talking about loving he's not singing and Eddie's looking over

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at him. There's three hundred thousand people and no shame.

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He just goes over to Mike. I fucking forgot the words,

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and the whole place erupted like it was the best

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thing it ever had except one dude that heckled him,

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and he goes, I'm gonna fuck your girlfriend. Yeah, and

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that is a rock star in my opinion right there.

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Yeah, he just had this man he still does in

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my friend you know, I mean, we all get older,

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but he there's a story about him. It's just classic.

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I forget what band it was before they got van

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Healen got sanged. I think it was quite right. He

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walks in with assless jeans, no shirt, you know, suspenders.

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Barney's grabs the microphone from I think to Bro and

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screams it stops the band and said, my name is

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fucking David b Roth. I'm going to be the biggest

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rock and rolf i'veing star on the planet. And people

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were booing it. Like I said. When I saw him

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sutting around, people are like, that's a dick. But I

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believed it, you know, right, he just had this Jim

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Dandy on steroids is what I always.

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Well it's funny too. You mentioned Crew. Okay, so am I.

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I'm from Jersey and my dad moved me out to

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California in nineteen eighty. What a time to move to La.

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Culture shock, man, Oh, total culture shock. But the first

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club show I ever went to my life was that

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the Roxy and it was Motley Crue before they had

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the album. Wasn't their first show, but it was before

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they had the album. Yeah, and you brought me back

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when you were talking about lighting on fire because they

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were lighting everything on fire, try and bring Satan into

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the Roxy. And I walked out of there. I was like,

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I think I was like thirteen at the time or

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forteen Island. I'm like, I'm never going to a real

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concert again. That was the greatest thing I ever saw.

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And then now you know when I am in La

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and I play to Rainbow and I'm like, man, how

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did I get in here when I was thirteen, fourteen,

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fifteen years old? Oh that's right. I was walking over

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from the Roxy with Motley Crue. That's how I got

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in there.

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Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean I remember the great

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days of Mario and Michael and everybody. You know. Marigo's

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sitting at the bun door. I mean the debauchery. We

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were fricking pirates, man, I mean it was you know,

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I had my wedding party there upstairs, and you remember

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the rooster. The rooster's next at the top, right. All

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kinds of bad things happened in that little room. But

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I mean I was like, hey, Tony, Mike, I'm getting married.

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Can I have my wedding party here? And they're like,

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whatever you want, let's go down. I had the hole upstairs,

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and of course everybody from hell was there, free alcohol, right,

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So yeah, man, I missed that. I think it's inside

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you still, Otherwise you wouldn't be doing this. It's in me.

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It's always, It's always.

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Yeah that magic times dude. Oh my god. I saw

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Zeppelin and I remember the crowd literally started burning wooden

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chairs on the floor in Saint Paul, Minnesota.

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Wow.

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And they were dancing around this fire like going crazy,

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and plant went and twenty thousand people went Island. If

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you don't stop burning and going crazy, the band are

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leaving and everybody's like, okay, dad again, and he stopped

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the crowd. But I'm sitting in the audience going, wow,

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that's Robert planted, and that's Jimmy Page and Bomb and

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that's John Paul. I see with Ted NuGen and Heart

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like three four times a year in the Midwest for

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five bucks right now.

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Oh yeah, I don't even know how kids go to

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shows today. Like it was like two bucks for a

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ticket and five bucks for a T shirt. And you

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were good. And I scraped ship up. I had to

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scrape that ship up. That was like a fortune.

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Yeah, it was, Mom. Can you drop me off at

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the auditorium? So and So's player, Well, it's the only

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for him, Honey. It's not safe, right, But I'll be fine, Mom.

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I'll just find a bunch of knuckleheads like me and

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we'll just hang out into the gates.

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Oll right, Well, check out this story. Okay, So you

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came into this part of the story a little later,

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a few years later, but so and you'll get what

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I mean when I tell you. So, I we were

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going to see Ozzy on New Year's Eve, and I

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told my dad I was sleeping at my bro's house.

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He told his parents he was sleeping at my house.

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And we went and saw Ozzie wit Randy on New

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Year's Eve, Okay, Which that's epic. And then so we

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get home and I lived in Lake Lindero in Agura Hill,

435
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:36.480
so like my backyard went straight down to the lake.

436
00:26:36.599 --> 00:26:38.799
So we were hanging down by the lake so my

437
00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:45.000
dad wouldn't see us. And my next door neighbor comes out, okay,

438
00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:47.960
and she goes, oh, boys, she sees us in the

439
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:50.319
Ozzy stuff. Were you at the Aussie show Last Name?

440
00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:53.079
And we're like, oh fuck, we're busted man, And we

441
00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:56.519
were like yeah, wait right here, I'm getting my husband

442
00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:01.160
and we're like, oh fuck. And the husband invites us

443
00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:04.480
up to the house, into his studio. In his house

444
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:08.759
that was wall thewall cassette tapes. Turned out he was

445
00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:12.480
Ozzie's promoter, so he gave us a bunch of swag.

446
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:15.759
But here's the part that will blow your mind. He

447
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:19.880
hands me this cassette. He says, this band's not in

448
00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:24.400
the United States anymore. I'm yeah, they're gonna be here

449
00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:28.599
in like six months and they're gonna be huge. And

450
00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:31.000
I remember I listened to the first song on that

451
00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:35.720
cassette and I was like, oh my god. That was

452
00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:42.480
the first except album Small World right how Wild?

453
00:27:43.240 --> 00:27:52.200
Next I was in Milwaukee and Restless Wild was on

454
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:55.920
bloodbed Fine and we would sit around the band house

455
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:58.240
doing bong kicks and this guy walked him with that

456
00:27:58.359 --> 00:28:00.079
record and put.

457
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:04.720
It still gives me.

458
00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:12.680
Yeah, Street the first speed metal band, who spawned Slayer,

459
00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:16.440
who spawned Metallica. I don't care what anybody says, except

460
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:18.440
spawned the speed metal movement.

461
00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:22.440
I'll verify that with you. I'll verify that because one

462
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:26.240
of my best friends is Dan Spit and oh yeah,

463
00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:31.960
and he told me straight out. All of them, Anthrax,

464
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:35.880
all the big four Anthracks, Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer, they all

465
00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:40.039
were like, that was the first thrash metal song ever.

466
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:44.279
When I was in accept we went to Monsters of Rock.

467
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:49.079
Anthrax was playing, David b Rock and Mayden was headlining

468
00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:53.559
this without makeup. We were in the tempt area in

469
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:56.759
the back and a big storm picking of court Germany right,

470
00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:00.319
never had a nice sunny, cold day. And Spit was

471
00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:03.599
there like a little kid looking at Wolf Hoffman going

472
00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:08.160
heuring the die man, you know, and being the studians

473
00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:11.640
going dude, you're Wolf Hopman, you know what I mean?

474
00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:17.359
And he's just send me, you are the reason we're

475
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:20.920
playing what we do and he's like, well, thank you

476
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:24.519
very much, you know, very gentleman. I appreciate timing, But dude,

477
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:26.799
you don't realize the impact that that band had on

478
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:29.599
the metal scene in America and world.

479
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:33.920
What there was nothing that song.

480
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:35.839
You want to touch on, that story, We can touch

481
00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:36.720
on that, you know.

482
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:40.400
I mean, we can tell any stories you want to tell.

483
00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:43.119
It's your world. I'm just living.

484
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:50.000
One second. The weirdest thing about it was I was

485
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:53.319
in La, back to our little stomping ground, got to

486
00:29:53.359 --> 00:30:00.880
get my my ic T excuse me, and and before

487
00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.960
I got an accept I couldn't get arrested. Bro, everybody's

488
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:06.640
a waiter is going to be an actor, and everybody's

489
00:30:06.920 --> 00:30:09.240
a lead singer, you know, standing on the corner of

490
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:13.839
some set, passing out flyers. I couldn't get arrested. I'm

491
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:17.720
a big guy, you know, I'm not the little girly

492
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:21.400
but Brett Michael guy, you know, lipsick, I'm not into that.

493
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:22.039
Yeah.

494
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.599
No, couldn't get arrested. Man. But I had a really

495
00:30:25.599 --> 00:30:28.440
dear friend named Lucy Forbes who had a little thing

496
00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:33.079
called Rock Congress, and her old vision was rock placement agency.

497
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:35.920
You know, I'm going to get guys in big bands

498
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:38.920
or corn bands. Didn't have a clue what she was doing,

499
00:30:39.200 --> 00:30:41.240
but she had a hearted goal. She was a sixties

500
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:44.640
biker chick, you know, knew all the you know, the

501
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:49.079
doors and all that informatic. So I'm homeless, sleeping on

502
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:51.880
a hardwood floor in Santa Monica, and I had reported

503
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:55.400
a bunch of demos with Mitch Perry, the guitarist who

504
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:58.000
played which thanker later and played with Tallis and she

505
00:30:58.119 --> 00:31:01.079
and all this guy couldn't get anybody who listens to

506
00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:06.079
it good songs, you know. But I was twenty three

507
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:09.799
maybe and living in her house. One day I just

508
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:11.359
I just said, you know what, I got to get

509
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:14.640
out of here because the la can eat you a lot. Yeah,

510
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.839
I'm working in factories, I'm you know, starving. I'm doing

511
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:23.319
anything I can, kind of book gigs. One day I

512
00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:26.799
just said, you know what to talk it, I'm out.

513
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:28.599
And she looked at me, she said, where are you going?

514
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:31.079
I said, my mom and dad moved to Colorado. I'm

515
00:31:31.079 --> 00:31:33.000
going to go on the ground and I'm going to

516
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:39.960
go live there. I'm done, So I leave that to set. Miraculously,

517
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:44.079
like a week later, Peter Dirk's, the producer of the Scorpions,

518
00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:48.960
has got scorpions business and he's banging Lucy on the side.

519
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:52.079
Goes to visit her and says, hey, I got an issue.

520
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.559
We get this English guy and then the band, except

521
00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:59.039
it ain't work the Saints Robert. Do you know anybody

522
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:02.160
that would work? I need a singer yesterday. She goes

523
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:04.240
check this guy out and hands him Mike thes un.

524
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:07.480
He puts it in. He goes, that's the guy wo

525
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.039
because he can hear voices, he's a producer, he knows

526
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:13.039
what he's looking for. I'm at the time wholist. I'm

527
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:16.200
just a rock singer guy. And she didn't know where

528
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:19.599
I was. So they go on. She goes, I think

529
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:23.519
he went to Colorado, to Colorado Springs. I'm going to

530
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:26.400
try to find him. He goes, find that dude. So

531
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:28.559
they went. She went through the phone book. I guess

532
00:32:28.599 --> 00:32:32.039
director says there's something. There's only so many. Jack Reese's

533
00:32:32.039 --> 00:32:35.880
in Colorado Springs called my dad and I'm living up

534
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:41.319
on the mountain painting houses, you know, and he says, yeah,

535
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:43.880
I need to find Dave and he's okay, I'll tell

536
00:32:43.920 --> 00:32:48.480
him to call. They give out my phone number to

537
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:51.720
Wolf and one night there's a blizzard happening outside. In

538
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:56.839
the phone ranging and it's wolfowk wow, Hello, I speak

539
00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:59.079
with David new Spee. This is both Palpman. The bis

540
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:01.680
up said yeah, I'm fucking Mickey Mouse, fuck you, and

541
00:33:01.759 --> 00:33:07.480
I hung up. So he calls right back. I think

542
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:09.599
we have a bad dinection, but I'm telling you it's

543
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:11.640
you know, and he starts give me the spiel and

544
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:16.160
I'm like, yeah, I'm on a plane, let's go. So

545
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:19.759
next thing I know, I'm flying the dusel Door and

546
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:24.839
I'm auditioning for except Wow, and this didn't happen. I

547
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:28.079
mean the German way. Guys. You know, it's very particulous.

548
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:31.400
She replaced a guy like Udo. You know, there's a

549
00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:34.920
lot of anxiety. So I mean literally the next day,

550
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:39.359
Peter wakes me up at im I got jet leg

551
00:33:39.440 --> 00:33:42.599
I maybe slept two hours. Let's go, I said, where

552
00:33:42.599 --> 00:33:44.599
are we going? He goes to the studio and I'm like, cool,

553
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:46.960
I get to meet the scorp me. I'll tell you know,

554
00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:49.839
I'm a kid, and he just looks at me like,

555
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:53.079
oh whatever. Because they're finishing Savage Amusement. I walk in,

556
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:56.680
there's Rudolph and Dieter and I go hey man, I'm like,

557
00:33:56.440 --> 00:34:00.160
I'm He looked at me like I was from Mars.

558
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:03.279
I think they're having an argument. So Peter took me

559
00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:06.680
directly into a demo studio in the base, put on

560
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:10.519
a two instroy Tay and this first song was turned

561
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:14.440
the wheel around, had the title, puts the fifty eight

562
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:17.480
in front of my face with a board sitting there

563
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:19.639
and goes sing something.

564
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:22.199
Nice.

565
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:28.119
I mean it's like And so we spent day after

566
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:31.840
day after day writing lyrics and me singing on thisfty

567
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:34.119
eight and what the band would do would coming at

568
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:38.440
night separately and listen to what I've done, Yeah, and Peter.

569
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:44.880
The final audition was a live gime in Cologne, Germany's

570
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:48.119
biggest metal band, performing one night only. That was my

571
00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:52.280
final audition. Was therefter about three months before they said

572
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:57.400
yes or come maybe longer. And of course they invite

573
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.840
all the heavy weights, Gruce Dickinson, all these guys because

574
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:03.159
at the time, Bruce is working for the fencing team

575
00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:06.960
in Bon, Germany. He's in the captain's uniform. Shows up.

576
00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:11.400
I'm good to see well, I'm like, what's he doing here?

577
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:15.000
I wanted to get his opinion. The fuck I'm going

578
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:18.159
home and you look out the window across from the

579
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:20.199
restaurant and there's a line of people standing in the

580
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:25.159
march rain because they know who it is, right, And

581
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:30.199
I was terrified. Did the gig BLAKELM And I fully

582
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:33.039
expected to be sent home. The next day, I hear

583
00:35:33.079 --> 00:35:35.320
them all talking in the guests out, well, I better

584
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:38.280
go face the music. It's been a cool trip, and

585
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:40.159
they reach out their hands said, welcome to it's up.

586
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:41.039
Wow.

587
00:35:42.280 --> 00:35:43.679
Yeah, that's amazing.

588
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:48.519
Yeah, And look, you just never know what's going to

589
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:53.679
happen in life, you know, in it beautiful, Oh I

590
00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:56.800
love it, like see even for me. So I left

591
00:35:56.920 --> 00:35:59.920
LA when all, you know, when it became really bad

592
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:02.880
with the hair metal, Like originally when mattawkan player went

593
00:36:02.960 --> 00:36:04.880
up to Bay Area, me and my bro used to

594
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:07.039
like hitchhike up there to go to shows up there

595
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:10.440
because they left us. They left us with all the

596
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:15.280
glam shit, you know, and all the girl boys, and

597
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:18.199
you know, the scene was not the same. So then

598
00:36:18.320 --> 00:36:20.679
like I went back to Jersey to go to college,

599
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:24.280
and I ended up leaving the whole sand Like It's

600
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:28.559
funny because I knew everybody and it was like I

601
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:34.239
just had this idea, like I went, I was playing guitar,

602
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:38.599
I was singing, and I was like, yeah, I'm not

603
00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:41.719
selling my soul for this shit. Like I'm not because

604
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:44.400
I sat back stage, you know, and saw what record

605
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:48.079
labels did to these bands, okay, and I'm like, yeah,

606
00:36:48.559 --> 00:36:51.239
I'm not selling out for that. So I left and

607
00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:54.159
I ended up in the financial business. And I was

608
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:56.760
pretty big in the financial business. And the Wolf of

609
00:36:56.760 --> 00:36:59.199
Wall Street, I knowew him personally, it was my competition,

610
00:36:59.679 --> 00:37:04.800
you know, and and uh yeah he was a douchebag

611
00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:08.920
by the way. Uh but but that movie is so

612
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:13.079
spot on except for where you're throwing the little people

613
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:16.679
at the dartboard. Everything else is true. And to me

614
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:21.599
it was weird because in that business it was the

615
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:26.679
same type of energy and debauchery as being in metal.

616
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:29.239
The difference was is I traded in my leather jack

617
00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:32.559
and battle vest for a normany suit, you know, but

618
00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:35.960
the same bullshit, you know, the same.

619
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:40.920
Drugs, lies, money, money corrupt everything, Money corrupted music, It

620
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:45.920
corrupts totally. I mean, it's I mean, who doesn't want

621
00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:47.960
and I think that what it what? You know, I

622
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:51.159
don't know about you, but saying earlier rock and roll

623
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:55.280
committed suicide. I mean, what normal guy you can look

624
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:58.280
at a cream magazine to go, dude's got five nickd

625
00:37:58.360 --> 00:38:02.840
Chicks spring whip cream on his dick. You know what

626
00:38:03.039 --> 00:38:05.920
guy living in Portland or Seattle with a single mom

627
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:10.239
and a fucking single wife. Tim relate to that, right.

628
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:13.159
You know, we fucking cut our own head off despite

629
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:16.199
our face. So then you got these bands, you know,

630
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:21.280
delivering something that's heavy with a message to that generation.

631
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:24.519
You know, we all got shot in the head and

632
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:29.360
here comes this new like you said, I mean, they

633
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:32.079
don't want to be corrupted. But then again, Durban and

634
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:37.280
all these bands who were like anti corporations, they went corporate.

635
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:41.199
Mm hm, you know, and what happened there? You know,

636
00:38:41.400 --> 00:38:44.280
all the people that believed in them from the street dates. Hey,

637
00:38:44.320 --> 00:38:47.280
you guys sold out like a black album for you Yeah,

638
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:54.960
so totally. Uh, it's a cyclical thing. But like you said,

639
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:57.480
the Jersey in New York and Wall Street thing is

640
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:00.880
stuck exchange. I can't imagine that I'd be dead. I mean,

641
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:03.440
I thought my habits were bath from what people have

642
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:06.719
told me. They said, it's like fucking pirateships sailing down

643
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:09.760
Thyme Square. Oh yeah, you guys were you guys were

644
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:11.599
killing it man one.

645
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:15.639
And the thing that you had more than you had

646
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.280
in the metal community was money. So it created more

647
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.800
debauchery because you had too much money to blow. Like listen,

648
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:26.760
I was twenty one years old making like fifty grand

649
00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:32.159
a month, you know, and I'll tell you what I

650
00:39:32.320 --> 00:39:35.760
spent every time of it and nothing.

651
00:39:36.239 --> 00:39:38.079
I'm going a load too, I mean a load, and

652
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:41.039
I had nothing to one time there was some money

653
00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:45.039
coming in with a guy like you, and I probably

654
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:48.320
came by you, but for me, you get a two

655
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:51.719
hundred grand. You're not thinking about the irs. You're not

656
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:56.320
thinking about You're thinking about I want that thing, that

657
00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:59.679
toy right now, and I buy it. I want to

658
00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:02.920
buy it. Yeah. And then at the end of the year,

659
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:05.480
I'm thirty first and the next year you got this Nope,

660
00:40:06.400 --> 00:40:11.039
you old blah blah blah. Wait a minute, they taxes.

661
00:40:11.280 --> 00:40:15.800
Right, yeah, you're like and then the people above you

662
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:19.280
in the biz, you know, they told you you have

663
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.039
to do this, Like I remember when I first started

664
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:25.360
in the business, you know, and like what a five

665
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:27.880
hundred dollars suit and the boss was like, yeah, that's

666
00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:30.719
not going to cut it. Here we're going out right now,

667
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:32.519
and I don't care if you have the money or not.

668
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:36.519
You're going and buying an Armani suit and that vehicle

669
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:40.199
you're driving. No, you need to get either a BMW

670
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:43.239
or Mercedes period, because you had to look the part,

671
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:45.400
you know, type of thing you got to represent.

672
00:40:45.559 --> 00:40:49.320
Man, you're working for our firm. You got all them apart.

673
00:40:49.639 --> 00:40:52.840
You're representing us, and where are the big dogs? We

674
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:57.159
don't need some billbilly driving it Volvo that's twelve years old,

675
00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:57.800
right right.

676
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:02.239
You're driving like a fifty thousand or more vehicle, but

677
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:04.320
you have no furniture in your apartment.

678
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:07.119
The same for me, dude. I'm a rock and roll

679
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:11.519
start one time going back and got leave and accept

680
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:16.119
living at Stevie Nix's house. Not a pot to piss him.

681
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:20.239
I mean, not a diamond in my pocket. But I'm

682
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:26.199
now famous because of accept good and bad. Where I

683
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:29.480
couldn't get arrested in LA before that, I walked into

684
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:33.119
all the clubs and like, and I'm all of a

685
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:38.360
sudden hopvin with you know what it's like. And all

686
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:42.719
these super rich rock and roll people who I didn't

687
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:48.559
I don't think they were ever poor and I'm literally pennyless,

688
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:53.360
living in a studio apartment, regaining my career with Bengalo

689
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:55.440
or choir. But you know I had the full Mountain

690
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:58.320
team like you did. I mean, you're you're not dressing

691
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:00.639
like that, You're not doing this. I mean how Kauflin

692
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:05.280
is managing me. I'm they've got white sneak heart. Henley

693
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:10.760
Nick's Irving Azoff signed me to his new label, Giant

694
00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:16.159
Fun Intended. You know, Warner Brothers, Moe Austin's son. The

695
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:19.320
only reason he got Irving got the deal. This is

696
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:22.400
how you are on Wall Street, right, who's shaking the

697
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:24.800
butter and who's bread? And he said, give my son

698
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:26.800
Kenny a job and I'll give you the two hundred

699
00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:30.000
mil to start a label. Okay, Kenny's a fuck up

700
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:33.119
who grew up with Moe Austin from Warner Brothers in

701
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:35.280
w A. He's never had a job in his life.

702
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.000
He's got a job. He's in charge of my A

703
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:42.960
and R. I'm running around with these maniacs. You know.

704
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:48.719
It was insane, you know, I mean, they treated us good.

705
00:42:48.760 --> 00:42:50.440
They put us on a salary. They you know, with

706
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:53.599
job the top studios. We went through the whole thing.

707
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:56.320
You know, the big shows, the big tour plans, and then.

708
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:03.440
Yeah, you know Timon and here we are twenty twenty five,

709
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:08.119
new album coming out. I love it, and the album cover.

710
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:11.119
I would buy it, just like in the old days

711
00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:12.880
you bought from album covers.

712
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:15.599
Okay, I'm going to tell that when you air this,

713
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:20.480
I want Simon zut. Here's a band called Goo Got.

714
00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:23.400
Some of the guys are Russians, some of the guys

715
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:25.480
are Dutch, some of the guys are Italians. And I

716
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:28.920
got to say they wanted me to sing on their records,

717
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:33.639
and COVID destroyed us all. You know what. I used

718
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:36.480
to do a lot of records to eat eat my family.

719
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:39.760
But I got to say that some of the sweetest

720
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:41.679
human beings I've ever met in my life, and what

721
00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:44.360
they're going through. Those Russian guys, they can't even talk

722
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:48.079
like you and me. They're completely controlled. Yeah, so they go,

723
00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:50.639
they are routed around. I can't really say much because

724
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:52.719
I don't want to get in trouble. But I was

725
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:55.119
talking to Simon, the bass player, and I've seen that

726
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:57.400
he had done their album covers and I gave them

727
00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:02.079
the reference. And when he hears his name and their name.

728
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:02.480
Good.

729
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:05.280
You should see those guys. They get a boner the

730
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:08.960
size of New Jersey when they hear me saying good

731
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:11.079
things about it because they're good. They're good at what

732
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:15.440
they do. Check it out, goot and Simon Zouts is

733
00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:18.559
his name. He's an Italian who did the artwork. I

734
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:21.199
gave him the idea and he gave me a few roughs.

735
00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:23.559
But he's gonna love that. He said that, because I

736
00:44:23.559 --> 00:44:27.519
think he.

737
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:30.159
Did totally, because it not only captures today, but it

738
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:33.719
gives you that nostalgic of the original album. That's why

739
00:44:33.719 --> 00:44:36.360
I said, right from the beginning of is that the

740
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:37.719
same model?

741
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:38.159
You know?

742
00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:41.000
Just years later? Does it kind of look that way

743
00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:44.360
into the same colors? And you know how it was

744
00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:47.599
in La Listen. He's good to this little record store

745
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:51.039
in the valley, me and my friends to get our music,

746
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:53.920
and there was a historic record store clerk there that

747
00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:56.159
every time we walked in and he's like, oh, you

748
00:44:56.199 --> 00:44:58.719
gotta check this band out, and we would buy it

749
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:01.360
just because he said so, because the album cover looked cool.

750
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:06.760
That was Brian Slagel, you know, And I told him

751
00:45:06.760 --> 00:45:09.360
like a few years ago, I'm like, dude, that was

752
00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:12.159
the most brilliant marketing plan ever. He was like I

753
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:15.239
was just a record store clerk, you know, but he

754
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:17.639
had us all like we'd go in there all the time,

755
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:21.840
and every band that I ever saw in LA, every

756
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:25.360
album that I ever bought, was because we would go

757
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:28.079
in there and he would say here and they were

758
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:30.960
all his bands, which was what was I thought was

759
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:31.880
brilliant about it.

760
00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:38.039
You know, yeah, I love him. He's uh, he's he's

761
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:42.440
gonna be around for past Hill outlived Keith Ridgards. I mean,

762
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:45.840
he's been doing it forever and God bless you know

763
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:46.280
what I mean.

764
00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:49.360
Oh yeah, you know, my hat's off to him because

765
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:53.679
Metal Blade is still around, still big, and like you

766
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:56.599
have never thought that back in the day, you know,

767
00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:00.239
would you ever imagine that Metal Blade would still will

768
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:03.400
be around in twenty twenty five, you know, like you would.

769
00:46:03.920 --> 00:46:07.840
It's It's amazing. It's a testament to the profit. I mean,

770
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:11.199
you've got a good a good lump between his shoulders.

771
00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:13.840
You know, he knows what he's doing. What works like

772
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:16.519
shoving it in your face. You got to buy this record,

773
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:19.360
look at that cover, this band rules. I'll take it.

774
00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:22.639
You know, you go home. But what you're gonna turn on,

775
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:25.960
but when you listen, you go it is great. He's right,

776
00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:31.119
Oh my god, right, I mean yeah, I wish we

777
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:31.840
had people like.

778
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:34.960
That now, no doubt, no doubt him.

779
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:39.880
And we go to we have one guy in hold

780
00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:44.719
of and it's called Media Marks in Germany, and they

781
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:50.920
pretty much sacrifice all of the CDs, uh in the stores,

782
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:52.079
the chain of stores.

783
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:53.360
But not him.

784
00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:55.800
I mean he put me in an in store. He's

785
00:46:55.840 --> 00:47:00.280
a fan, he loves rock and roll. He knows everybody does.

786
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:03.280
These giant posters when you're there, and I remember like

787
00:47:03.320 --> 00:47:06.719
two hundred kids won that Autocrats like the old days,

788
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:10.840
you know, yeah, the old record stores. Like you said,

789
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:14.960
tour bus pulls up. You know, there's a crowd of

790
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:16.920
kids waiting out there. Record day.

791
00:47:18.679 --> 00:47:22.599
Yeah, I missed the good old days. Camping out to

792
00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:25.480
get your tickets. I remember I saw Black Sabbath with

793
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:28.679
de O. I camped out for my tickets and uh,

794
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:32.039
this dude, I was like first in line. This dude

795
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:34.000
comes up to me, Hey, if you give me my ticket,

796
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:36.800
I'll smoke you out at the show. That's all he

797
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:39.000
had to say. Like I didn't want any money, right,

798
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:41.920
They're like, sure you know, and then he had this

799
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:46.320
like nowie wowie at the show, like he he meant

800
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:48.679
it because he was sitting right next to me. And

801
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:52.280
I remember when Dio just first started talking over to

802
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.280
Mike when they first came on, I thought Dio was

803
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:59.280
God because I was so high off of this stuff.

804
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:04.519
He smoked me when I was like, holy ship us.

805
00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:09.280
It's god spelled. It's an Italian literally it means God deal.

806
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:14.599
So and you are correct, So I mean, uh yeah,

807
00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:18.840
that's the cosmic experience. And I remember my first concert

808
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:26.679
was Peter Frampton Comes Alive Tour. Jay Diles was the second. Wow,

809
00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:31.360
Peter Wolf take my ass what the front man? I mean?

810
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:36.239
And Ruby Starr and Great Ghosts from Black Oakcarpon So

811
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:40.320
was the first back. And I remember being in the

812
00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:43.920
Saint Paul Minnesota Civic Center and the lights are still

813
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:47.519
on and you can see the curtain and Frisbees were

814
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:53.599
flying across and beach ball and joints are coming. When

815
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:56.599
there's like this bluish white haze over the audience, right

816
00:48:56.800 --> 00:49:01.639
and I'm here, I'm home. What is this? What is this?

817
00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:05.199
My mom dropped me off for right, lights go out

818
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:10.679
in this roar. Remember that and the curtain drops and

819
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:14.280
there's Ruby in a miniskirt strutting around, and then Jay

820
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:18.199
Giles comes out and do their live record they did

821
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:22.239
for twenty years NonStop, and then Peter Frampton comes out

822
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:24.920
with this you know, oh baby, I love your way.

823
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:29.320
But it was a hit. And I remember just leaving

824
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:34.039
that place a different person. Yeah, you know, I it

825
00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:37.719
was mind chan. Then I saw Alice there, Errol Smith

826
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:40.280
at bazillion times. I mean I'd be right there with

827
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:43.639
Tyler spitting in my face because in those days, like

828
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:47.760
you said, five bucks wasn't easy to come back. You know,

829
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:49.880
I didn't buy a pack of cigarettes or something. I could,

830
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:52.599
you know, I could go see meet my friends and

831
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:56.480
see Nugent and all those guys four or five times

832
00:49:56.519 --> 00:50:02.239
a year totally, And it's it's a different animal now.

833
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:07.440
I mean, working on shows, it's a what do they

834
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:10.440
say to me? The other day? Guys said, it's not

835
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:13.360
that the bands are so competitive they're abut to destroy you.

836
00:50:14.000 --> 00:50:20.559
It's that they're only thinking of themselves. Yeah, good point.

837
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:23.280
It's kind of the same thing. He goes. They're not

838
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:26.599
out there shit talking you, but they're only thinking about themselves.

839
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:29.480
There used to be a hang of a camaraderie with

840
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:32.079
rock and old bands. Yeah, I'm and open with us.

841
00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:34.840
Come out and tour with us. You know we're not

842
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.039
going to charge you five hundred bucks a day and

843
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:38.920
make you sleep in the van, so you're paying our

844
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:42.000
road crew with your buy on. You know what bands

845
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:45.679
would say, Oh I fucking love your band man, come

846
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:48.559
out and open for us thirty days. Everybody, quit your

847
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:52.480
day job. We're leaving. You know, get your strip with

848
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.199
girlfriends and throwing a kiddy so we can rent a

849
00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:57.800
vand you know, I'm get a U haul. We're going out.

850
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:02.840
You know it's different now, you know it is?

851
00:51:03.159 --> 00:51:08.119
It is? I miss those days. It was like there's

852
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:10.760
so many stories we could tell, we could tell for

853
00:51:11.119 --> 00:51:13.360
days and days, Like, I don't think it's have the

854
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:16.800
same stories nowadays. Even when it comes to backstage, you know,

855
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:20.719
like I'm I do all these festivals and friends of

856
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:23.960
mine are like, hey, can you get me backstage? I'm like, dude,

857
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:26.760
it ain't what you think it is, Okay, there's nothing

858
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:27.920
going on there.

859
00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:32.480
Photo the photo of like what they think backstage is

860
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:35.159
naked chicks and drugs and what it's really like a

861
00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:37.840
bunch of people starting at their cell phone waiting for

862
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:38.599
the stage call.

863
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:41.480
Right, Yeah, not like the good old days when I

864
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:44.119
would go to Metallica shows and clean the first one

865
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:46.840
and everybody would go back to their house afterwards and

866
00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:49.239
party all night long. I picked my friends up out

867
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:55.000
of the bushes outside and wherever they ended up passing out.

868
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:57.920
I don't even want to git well, we won't even

869
00:51:57.960 --> 00:52:01.199
go mean, but those were the days. Clark Street, that's

870
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:03.920
to the whiskey. Is that what it was? Clark Street? Yeah,

871
00:52:04.360 --> 00:52:10.639
walk up the hill. It was madness. People falling out

872
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:15.199
of windows, people no front door in an apartment, all writers,

873
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:16.800
all weekenders.

874
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:19.480
I mean, I was at that party. I was at

875
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:21.880
that party where Vince killed Razzle.

876
00:52:24.159 --> 00:52:27.679
Like that was that's ironic. Maybe you know some of

877
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:28.639
the same people I do.

878
00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:31.480
We probably do. It's funny. There's some people have mad

879
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:33.880
I'm like, I don't remember them, but you know what

880
00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:35.639
they say, if you were at the Sunset Strip in

881
00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:37.719
the eighties and you remember it, you weren't really there.

882
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:42.559
Well, the guy that I know was with them. The

883
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:45.800
call was made to get more alcohol and blow, and

884
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:48.199
they were going to a guy's house that I know

885
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:52.000
that had to blow and he didn't show up. But

886
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:54.079
the story that I was told was he could hear

887
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:59.079
the sirens and thought, uh oh, what something's happened. He

888
00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:02.840
didn't bother calling him going out, But I knew a guy,

889
00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:06.519
knew a guy that was waiting for them after they

890
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:12.159
got more alcohol, and sadly what happened happening. Yeah, but

891
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:14.239
I know they were down in the beach area right

892
00:53:14.280 --> 00:53:17.199
there in the South Park party that had been going

893
00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:19.719
on for a few days. That's what happened.

894
00:53:20.519 --> 00:53:20.760
Yeah.

895
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:24.079
You can only you know, swing the sword at the

896
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:28.360
dragon so long before you do something stupid.

897
00:53:28.360 --> 00:53:31.800
And oh, you know, like because they were all so

898
00:53:31.960 --> 00:53:34.400
high all the time. Like what I loved about being

899
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:37.039
a teenager then is I would go to those parties

900
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:39.719
and I'd get the overflow of what Montley Crew couldn't handle.

901
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:45.559
As far as women, I'm like some kid laid hot

902
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:48.079
chicks because they didn't get laid by Motley.

903
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:51.400
Crue I got. I went out with their dope dealer

904
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:55.199
on the Theater Pane tour with this stupid idea in

905
00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:57.719
my head. I'll bring some of my demos and get

906
00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:00.280
them to listen. I'm going to get a record, But

907
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:03.760
I'm with one of their multiple drug dealers, and they

908
00:54:03.800 --> 00:54:07.039
had an entourage of them, trust me, oh, following the

909
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:10.599
band around, flying around picking up drugs in different cities

910
00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:13.920
and bringing them to the band. And really, I'm just

911
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:17.800
sitting in a room with these maniacts so out of it,

912
00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:23.159
and I'd always ask myself, how do they play tomorrow? Yeah? Right,

913
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:26.559
and it's like and they remember they had armed guards

914
00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:29.559
at the door Vince because it had just happened before that,

915
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:32.960
so they would open the door and Vince would be

916
00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:35.119
passed out and make it on the floor with a

917
00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:37.239
bottle of tequila. And he had figured out how to

918
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:39.880
get the hotel staff to get him drugs and alcohol

919
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:42.159
and looked it through the window on a sheet and

920
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:43.960
they were like, how is he doing this? You know,

921
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:47.400
an attict wuld go to the end of the earth

922
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:50.280
to figure out a way to get eye. But it

923
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:53.239
was it was debauchery that I've never seen on that

924
00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:57.519
scale that you know. They had a car of lookalikes

925
00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:03.400
leave the venues right and the fans and chicks would

926
00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:06.880
chase that car and then another limo would drive from

927
00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:09.679
under the arena with the real can to the other

928
00:55:09.760 --> 00:55:13.199
hotel in town. And I'd be like this is jeeves

929
00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:15.360
that the kids caught onto that too.

930
00:55:16.079 --> 00:55:18.519
Yeah, yeah, you follow that car.

931
00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:20.719
We'll follow this car. We'll call you if we got

932
00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:21.280
the right band.

933
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:24.519
And the idea that Mustaine got kicked out of Alcoholic

934
00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:27.360
for being an alcoholic really always blew my mind to

935
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:27.880
this day.

936
00:55:28.760 --> 00:55:32.199
There's always a sacrificial lamb. Look at Steven at right,

937
00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:35.760
I mean exactly, there's always that guy. I mean, I'm

938
00:55:35.800 --> 00:55:38.920
a recovery drunk. I got seven years this September.

939
00:55:39.079 --> 00:55:39.599
Good for you.

940
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:41.679
I've made a bunch of dumb things. I've done some

941
00:55:41.800 --> 00:55:45.239
dumb shit, you know, fighting with bands. That's where I

942
00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:47.519
was fired from Mixed Up. I slapped Peter in the face.

943
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:50.320
I got drunk. I thought he deserved it, you know,

944
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:58.360
wrong choice action, but you know, to fire, you know,

945
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:00.639
especially when you get like we go back to that

946
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:06.239
brotherhood thing. There's no democracy. Yeah, you know, Adler is

947
00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:08.320
probably the nicest guy I've ever met. In the band.

948
00:56:09.519 --> 00:56:13.679
They throw him out, you know, and I've seen that

949
00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:19.960
in Bloomer Times. Oh yeah, ah, you're disposable. I'm I'm

950
00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:22.280
the reason people are going. And part of the part

951
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:25.800
of that's true, right, the in fact or you know,

952
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:28.519
it takes over our guy's mind that. I'll give you

953
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:32.559
an example of Guns n' Roses. My guitar player Andy

954
00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:38.119
on this record and writer with me. Hudo was the

955
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:44.119
second act on the first Guns and Roses to Theaters

956
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:47.920
and Sweet Child of Mind. It not broke out. They

957
00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:50.760
were going to dump the band. Deafen was it's not working,

958
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:55.159
but Andy said, every night there were just I couldn't

959
00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:57.599
take my eyes off Axl. You know it's so easy

960
00:56:57.639 --> 00:56:59.800
that it opened with and it was just something about him,

961
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:02.480
blah blah blah blah. And he said, every night all

962
00:57:02.480 --> 00:57:04.679
the bands are being in the dressing room borrowing cigarettes

963
00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:08.480
and they had no money, drinking together party. He said.

964
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:12.199
The day that Sweet Child of Mind hit, he goes,

965
00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:15.519
I'll never forget it. I'm walking down the hall backstage

966
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:19.280
and Axel had the two tour managers against the wall

967
00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:21.599
stream and I want my own bus, I want this,

968
00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:25.920
I want that, I want this, or I'm going home. Wow,

969
00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:28.719
And he stopped talking to the to Udo's band. He

970
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:33.239
stopped talking to Alita, and Slash watched into dressing and

971
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:35.760
he said, what happened? Man? What I don't know? Man?

972
00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:41.199
This is mine He's lost overnight he sold like ten

973
00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:45.639
million records. Yeah, and they were the MTD Darling, they

974
00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:48.440
were the new thing. But he said, literally in a day,

975
00:57:49.400 --> 00:57:50.800
he was like, I'm leaving the band if I don't

976
00:57:50.800 --> 00:57:52.079
get this, I don't get that. No no, no, no, no

977
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:55.039
no no, I'm done. And the couple of weeks before

978
00:57:55.079 --> 00:57:57.119
that actual with mom and cigarettes off.

979
00:57:57.039 --> 00:58:03.440
My friends and drinks. It was so it was well.

980
00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:07.559
Now here you are years later, clean with great new

981
00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:10.119
music coming out at the end of the month, thanking

982
00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:12.559
the end of the year. Here and everybody's got to

983
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:15.960
check it out, get the new album and support you

984
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:18.559
because you're a badass and the music is better.

985
00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:21.519
Great, great conversation. I really loved it.

986
00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:23.000
Well, I love.

987
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:29.000
Yeah, it's your really cool, great great, great interview. I

988
00:58:29.159 --> 00:58:36.199
like this relaxed formata exactly. We come from the same cloth, right,

989
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:41.800
So Braveboards Records. Reese is on Facebook, He's on Instagram,

990
00:58:41.960 --> 00:58:44.239
so you can find me. I love to talk to

991
00:58:44.280 --> 00:58:49.000
the fans. Thank you for everything. That's all I can say.

992
00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:52.679
Thank you for giving us great talent and music all

993
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:55.719
these years and continuing to do so here in twenty

994
00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:58.440
twenty five, and thanks for being on the adventures of

995
00:58:58.480 --> 00:58:58.960
pipe man.

996
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:03.199
I'm still riding the rhino with the pipe man. Let's

997
00:59:03.199 --> 00:59:05.719
go back to the strip. Let's go back in time.

998
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:07.039
We should do a movie, right.

999
00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:10.880
I know, right, imagine back to the Sunset Strip.

1000
00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:16.039
I mean with with the real stuff that happened, not

1001
00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:19.639
some kids trying to make it. It went down. Then

1002
00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:23.679
you can graduate from Wall Street. Well, all your friends

1003
00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:26.480
are still in Frisco, you know, hanging out in the

1004
00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:30.960
rainy streets, trying to get in at okay, the Paradise

1005
00:59:31.039 --> 00:59:32.039
loungeer wherever they were.

1006
00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:33.519
Playing only I don't even remember.

1007
00:59:35.960 --> 00:59:38.519
And you're in Wall Street being suited, you know, and

1008
00:59:38.639 --> 00:59:42.960
fitted for a five thousand dollars money. You know exactly,

1009
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:46.000
here's the piece, here's you new seven to fifty. But

1010
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:47.480
next year and you got up grade.

1011
00:59:47.519 --> 00:59:53.480
Okay, come on, exactly exactly save debauchery, just different animal.

1012
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:56.960
People don't even realize there's not there's a fine line

1013
00:59:57.000 --> 01:00:01.679
between the metal heads and the suits. All right, well

1014
01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:05.280
you rock on, my brother, and look forward to it again,

1015
01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:08.320
and anything you need you let me know.

1016
01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:11.079
We know what we should do. I want to make

1017
01:00:11.079 --> 01:00:16.599
this clear. The album is sixteen songs we did. Act

1018
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:19.119
one is eight songs. Act two his songs. I had

1019
01:00:19.119 --> 01:00:22.559
about twenty four to twenty five songs, and Giles Lavery

1020
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:25.079
and I whittled it down with brand Ball down to

1021
01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:28.400
the sixteen tracks. What I'd like to do maybe when

1022
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:31.119
the album's out, if you're interested, we can do a

1023
01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:35.519
chat about act one. Yeah, absolutely, maybe, like because you

1024
01:00:35.559 --> 01:00:36.880
know how it is, you know what you all have

1025
01:00:36.960 --> 01:00:40.800
promoted for a record and everybody says, buy the album,

1026
01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:44.039
blah blah blah. The album comes out crickets for six

1027
01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:48.000
weeks prior, everybody's buzzing, you know, Let's talk about it

1028
01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:49.320
after it's out for a month or so.

1029
01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:52.400
Let's do it, you know, and be honest.

1030
01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:54.239
I really like this or I don't like that. Let's

1031
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:54.800
talk about this.

1032
01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:58.599
I'm down for it. Let's make it happen. Tell Michael

1033
01:00:58.639 --> 01:00:59.400
to make it happen.

1034
01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:02.800
I'm on it, brother, all right.

1035
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:05.159
Rill.

1036
01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:09.320
Then until then, have a good night or a good

1037
01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:13.079
day wherever you are. I'll go to bed and we

1038
01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:14.679
will see each other once again.

1039
01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:16.000
You got it, brother.

1040
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:22.039
Thank you for listening to the Adventures of Patement. I'm

1041
01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:25.239
w for CUI Radio.