May 18, 2026

FROM FAMILY AFFAIR TO HOLLYWOOD ROMANCE KATHY GARVER RELEASES NEW BOOK AS CLASSIC SERIES TURNS 60

FROM FAMILY AFFAIR TO HOLLYWOOD ROMANCE KATHY GARVER RELEASES NEW BOOK AS CLASSIC SERIES TURNS 60
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Kathy’s career is a true Hollywood rarity, stretching from her breakout as “Cissy” on CBS’s Family Affair to her more recent recognition as a GRAMMY-nominated audiobook narrator. It’s not just her range that stands out, but the way she’s managed to stay connected with fans decade after decade, whether through blockbuster animation, bestselling books, or live appearances.

Her most recent book, 'Romancing With The Stars,' continues to draw interest across classic TV and pop culture circles, and the fact that she’s actively working on new film projects as a producer and actress speaks volumes about her ongoing relevance. Kathy’s appearances on shows like Interviewing the Legends and Classic Conversations have been met with enthusiasm from both hosts and listeners, and her stories about the evolution of entertainment, the art of voice acting, and sustaining creativity in such a competitive field keep her fans coming back for more.

FROM FAMILY AFFAIR TO HOLLYWOOD ROMANCE: KATHY GARVER RELEASES NEW BOOK AS CLASSIC SERIES TURNS 60

Classic television star, author, acclaimed voiceover artist, and Grammy-nominated Kathy Garver released her latest book, Romancing with the Stars: Inspiring Hollywood Love Stories, co-authored by Doug Hartline. The book is a heartfelt look at some of the most enduring and inspiring romances in Hollywood history.

Published by BearManor Media, Romancing with the Stars takes readers behind the scenes of legendary love stories, from serendipitous on-set meetings to lifelong partnerships that have stood the test of time.

Garver is beloved by generations of fans as “Cissy” on the classic CBS sitcom Family Affair, which celebrates its 60th anniversary this year. The groundbreaking series remains a cherished part of television history and continues to introduce new audiences to the warmth, humor, and heart that made it a cultural touchstone.

With a career spanning more than six decades, Garver first appeared on screen in the epic film The Ten Commandments and has since built an impressive body of work across television, film, animation, audiobooks, and voiceover. Her distinctive voice has been featured in popular animated series, including Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends as Firestar, The New Yogi Bear Show, and Chuck Norris: Karate Kommandos.

Garver recently received a GRAMMY® nomination for Best Audiobook, Narration & Storytelling Recording for Elvis, Rocky and Me: The Carol Connors Story, with GRAMMY®-winning musician David Longoria.

She remains active on screen, with upcoming films A Mother’s Christmas and Pollyanna’s Wish, which she will also produce.

Romancing with the Stars is available through Amazon, BearManor Media, and as signed copies at KathyGarver.com.

Website: https://www.kathygarver.com/

Socials:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kathygarverfanpage/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kgcissy/

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And so here we have Kathy Garver, who is a great,

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great author.

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But I remember her from Family Affair, I know.

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And do you realize it is the sixtieth anniversary a

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Family Affair this year?

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Yeah, I don't really want to know that because well

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he tells me how old I.

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that's the way. Well I feel like I'm about twenty eight.

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But yeah, chronologically i'm fifty. You know what. It was

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thirty nine and I can't I said, no, no, no, no.

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Anything I can get away with fifty.

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I think I'm still kind of like twenty five. And

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I can tell you that. So with four kids and

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eight grandkids. My oldest is forty one, my youngest is thirty.

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None of them can keep up with me. Like I

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I'm the one that's the zaity, the grandfather, and you

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taking my wats. And it's the generation. I really think

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they're stressed. I think these were that's really super stressed

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live through the childhood I lived through, they wouldn't be

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here today, you know, like they couldn't handle it. No,

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have the coping skills nowadays.

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all the time. Every every generation changes, every ten years. Technology,

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something cool?

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hear it. It's like the funniest thing because Alexa, Oh

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my god, she has me figured out in two seconds.

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No woman has. My ex wives will say like, yeah, I.

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Still don't know you, like nobody has ever been able

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to figure me out Alexa in two seconds. And She'll

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a little bit of sweet but then a little bit

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Yes, well, my Alexa just answered you.

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She heard say Alexa, and she says, I don't know

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how I can help you with that.

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Maybe yeah, yeah, Like it's funny too, because there's times

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I've done interviews from home instead of studio, and I

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They're very lovable, though, I don't know what I'd do

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without them, right, They're very good friends of mine.

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Now, well you know about their romance.

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I don't know what they have, but my my Romancing

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with the Stars is really a fun, fun book to write.

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at computers, etc. And retired, but he's just so enamored

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of celebrities and people in the business, and he's very

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much romantic. He's been married maybe forty eight years. So

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he says, Kathy, let's do this book together. I said, okay,

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I've written five books, so he and this was his first.

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this was going to be a very short book because

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Relationships in Hollywood. Turns out it's like four hundred and

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fifty pages. We have twenty seven wonderful couples, from Tony

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Doll and his wife Lauren to Frankie Adaline who's been

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married for sixty years, and Pat Boone sixty five years.

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I mean, and they're still I mean Frankie Avalon. I

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hate to say this is cranky Avlon. It's still really hot.

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me in Westlake.

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I ran into him at a restaurant.

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I live in Bell Canyon, which is like, you know,

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I went to Westlake High and Aga High and Too High.

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Cards go by to go to Lake Sherwood all the time.

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when they're driving by.

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and it touches on why these couples stayed together. And

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I think it's kind of inspiring for anybody to read it,

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because we all have I mean, I was married for

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forty four years until my husband passed, and you know,

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there's the up days and the down days, and I

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think it takes someone to recognize, you know, what your

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mood is and then to do something perhaps about it,

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to bring a rose, or to read a book.

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and the trusting of that, and also there's kind of

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a spiritual bind between the couples that allowed them to

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look at something even higher that say oh, okay, I

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don't know if this was blessing heaven or not, so,

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but you.

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Know it's strong.

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Wow, from all the.

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Couples that we did.

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That's kind of what came out in the book Romancing

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with the Stars, and it is the I think inspiring

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love stories. I think what's cool about it is and

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my co author has just traveled all over the world.

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He said, let's put in a travel guide and we'll

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recreate the couple's most romantic places and their most romantic moments. So,

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for instance, Morgan Brittany and her husband Jack, Morgan Brittany

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was on Dallas and Jack Gill's award winning stunt Guy,

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but their most romantic moment was when they were in

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Africa and they were in a tent on it and

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they were on a safari and they looked up at

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the sky and saw these sparkling lights and that was

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their most romantic moments. So afterwards then we say here

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are different safaris that you can take in Kenya or

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South Africa or this, and the prices and what it is,

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and if that's a little pricey, then we say, well

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then you go to the zoo and we show the

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beautiful zoos like San Diego Zoo where Griffith part zoo

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and see the animals have a romantic moment with a

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little wine and cheese and whatever. If that's too expensive,

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you cuddle up on the couch with some wine and

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cheese and watch Katherine Hepburn and in The African Queen

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with Humphrey Bogart.

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Very romantic. Yeah.

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So that's our book and it's people identify with it

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it is like, Okay, we all see the stories of

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the bad marriages, but then I just think to myself,

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same as this industry I'm in, like, it's almost better

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to be with somebody that has some connection to the

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industry because then they could understand certain things that people

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outside the industry may not. That maybe makes it better

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and a better cohesive thing, you know. And do you

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find that to be true or does that cause even

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more stress because both people are stressed out with the.

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Whole everything that goes on the industry.

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What I found in this particular book, you no, it

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is not good to be in the same one, and

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maybe it is good to be in the same one,

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but I think you know what you said at the end,

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there's a lot more stress because both of them are stressed.

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Almost everyone in the book had someone who was out

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of the industry, like for Rutally her her husband was

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a very successful restaurant tour and Tony daw His his

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long term wife was you know, a mother and painter,

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an artist, but you know, never in front of the camera.

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Frankie Avalon's wife, you know, at the beginning, I don't.

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They may have met, but she didn't continue after well,

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with six children, not going to have had a time,

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you know, to be in front of the camera. So

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I found in these couples, the particular couples, and I

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think it's a great sampling that. And my husband was

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not My husband was a businessman, and I kind of

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put that out there. I said, well, first of all,

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I was getting not desperate, but I hadn't found the

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right person. So I said, the next person I need

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I'm going to marry, and springs and at a music

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industry tennis tournament and my friend was there and she

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was with her partner and we needed a fourth for tennis.

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we're waiting for the fourth next person. This is the

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person I'm going to marry. So the six ft three.

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Guy comes under the tennis court and we start playing

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tennis and I'm going back and forth and he says, oh,

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finally a woman that can play tennis. I'm going to

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get married and I go see he So three years

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later we got married and we're married for forty four years.

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But I was always I had already put in my

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mind I really didn't want somebody as an actor because

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there we're very high on the angs list. One of

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the worst things in the inks list is to lose

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your job. Well, that's what an actor does all the

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time they do a movie, Oh okay, now what do

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I do? Or if they do a stage with what

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that's over? And so you're constantly being a little depros

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because you don't have a job. So someone that has

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a steady job or someone that is steady really kind

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of anchors the blues that are going around them as

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a person.

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You know, And while you're talking, I'm thinking about makes

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so much sense to like you kind of want to

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have an escape from the industry, right, Like, that's I

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think the benefit of being with somebody in the industry.

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That's that's your escape, it is, And.

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I felt with David he was really one of the

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only person I could really be myself with. I could scream,

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I could yell, I can wear sweats. I don't have

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to have makeup on. I don't have to be my

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presentational self. I can just you know, be barefoot.

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I get that feeling totally, because like being under radio,

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you're playing a role too. Pipe man is a role.

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And like I'll meet women and they want pipe man.

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They don't want Dean, which is my real name, you know,

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they don't want that person who is the real me. Like,

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and I'll tell you how funny it is. I'll tell

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you a pretty funny story. So my daughter worked at

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the station for several years, and her mom, when we

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got divorced, said, I really hope you find what you're

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looking for, because you're like the most romantic person I've

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ever met. I'm just not into that, which is weird

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to hear, but okay, So fast forward ten years. She

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calls up my daughter at the station. She goes, I

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was just listening to your dad on the radio, and

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he was never that ob noxious in twelve years of marriage.

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He's such a player now.

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And then she tried to reconcile with me because she

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thought I was a player, and I'm like, oh my god,

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that is.

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So funny and so true.

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You know, because when you first meet someone and maybe

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they're on their best behavior and you don't really know

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who you are. Reminds me of being at a party

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one time. This guy was all dressed up as like

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a hippie and really cool and I'm a little conservative,

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and I said, oh, well, you know this is something different.

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Oh when he's really a nice person. And turns out he.

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Was just dressed up that way that day. But we

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actually after, you know, you tear off then, you know,

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and peeled back the onion and then you see what's there.

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You know, he was a nice gul, but I didn't.

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Worry you well, And you know how it is from

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being an actor, like people think you're the character you're playing.

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It annoys me.

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Like it's it's wild to me, Like sometimes it's funny

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but other times not so much.

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Like I met somebody recently she's like, can you do

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your radio? Oh?

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She goes, oh, I thought you'd have more of a

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radio I'm like, what's a radio voice? All those people

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that's their voice, come on, do your radio voice for me.

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I'm like, this is my voice, no, come on, and

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it was like she was she kept going on. I

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was like, okay, I'm over this now, or or there's

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other people like I'll meet women because I go on

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tour and I do meet radio coverage at music vessels

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all over the US, UK and Europe, and I'm Pipeman

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at these music festivals and I'll meet women and then

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I'll show them Dean and they don't want that person,

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they want the character that they met.

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It's very interesting I find though as an actor, and

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people says, oh, you know, and Sissy on Family Affair,

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she was such a character. And I says, well, actually,

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the way that I act, it's like eighty percent is

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me because you have the same heart, you have the

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same vision of something that you we're seeing. Your body

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will react because it's your body to a situation that's

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scary in a certain way. And it doesn't matter what

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kind of a character you're playing.

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You are who you are, and physically and.

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Spiritually and mentally, you can't change that part of yourself.

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You can change your voice. I can do like one

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hundred different kind of characters.

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And really nice ones.

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Are not so nice ones, or really strong ones, but

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they're all coming from me, and so yeah, it's you're

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basically the same thing.

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That's true.

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It is a part of you too, even if you exaggerate,

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I use that word it's exaggeration of your personality.

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Yes, I think that's a good way to express it. Right,

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that's very good.

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Pipe Mandine so arduring love stories that you discovered while

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you're researching.

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That really surprised you.

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Now rutal Lye is it's just a wonderful actress. He's

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the president of the Italiens which I'm on the board

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of that was started by Debbie Reynolds and Ruda to

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help actors and it's a charity foundation that helps people

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with mental conditions. I don't know if that actors and

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mental conditions are, you know, one and the same, but

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to help actors and also anyone that has mental needs.

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And she was on a plane going back from Florida

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to Texas and she was tired. She had just done

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a Italien thing, and so she saw these Gucci loafers

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walking towards her. He says, oh, those are nice. Oh

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that's a nice looking man. So he just continued to

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walk along, and when they got on the plane, he said, oh,

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is this seat taken? It was the same Gucci loafer man.

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And she said, well no, and he says oh. He says, well,

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I'm web Low and he says, oh, well, I'm rude

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to Lee. If we got married, then we could have

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be rude to Lee Low and we could have a

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Chinese laundry. So they talked for two hours, and two

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years later they got married on Valentine's Day, which was

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the day they met.

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On the plane.

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So that was a sweet story.

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I love that.

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And you know, as you mentioned earlier family affairs celebrating

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that's sixtieth anniversary. I don't even like saying that because, wow,

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who would ever think you'd be thinking of something sixty

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years ago? But you know, what does that milestone mean

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to you? And what would you say is your favorite

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story or memory from that show?

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Well, I look at it is a milestone, and I

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look back at a legacy. Now. I just received an

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award at Oscar kind of viewing party award for the

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Golden Era Award, and I got a Life Achievement Award,

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and I'm getting another legacy award.

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The Margaret O'Brien.

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Legacy Award, and I was up for a Grammy this year,

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and that isn't because of age, but you know it

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makes a good title. This year old you know, up

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for her first Grammy. But I look back and makes

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you look back at your career in some ways, all

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these these pinpoints. Is seventieth anniversary of Tank Commandments in

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sixtieth anniversary of Family There, forty fifth anniversary of Spider

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Man and his Amazing Friends, where I played in the

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character of Firestar, And I said, you know, this is

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good because I'm very proud of almost every single thing

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that I've done. I've not ever done violent things, and

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I haven't done X rated things and why and because

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I think that's just a part of my personality. And

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I have a very strong faith in believing in some

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spirit that's guiding me. And spirit has not guided me wrong.

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He's guided me into things that I've really had to

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deal with I wasn't real sure about. But you know,

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the next couple months, Okay, here's here's a Grammy that

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you had no idea you and everything because I sing

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love Key and different things happen. You know, your house

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can burn down. My house is burned down. But you

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know around the corner is something better.

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Absolutely, And so you know, I think to myself, of

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I don't know, I missed those days of television, probably

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because I had a really bad childhood and shows like

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Family Affair, Make Room for Daddy, Leave It to Beaver

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and all those shows. They were my role model of

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what I wanted when I became an adult, and I

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created that as an adult, you know, and with something

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I have. And I look at TV today and the

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shows today, and man, I think I would be real

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messed up if TV works the way it is today

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the way back then, because back then it was giving me,

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teaching me values and family values and all that.

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Well, yes, and that's you know, goes back to our

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previous discussion. That's one of the reasons that kids are

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so stressed today. And my own son, you know, when

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they played those video games and people are shooting everybody

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and it's not reality, you know, and they think it is,

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and and they get more realistic and morely, oh well

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you shoot somebody, but then they just get up and

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play again.

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Well you do that in real life.

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They don't get up and right, Yeah, So it definitely

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you know that definitely has a large impression television and

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any kind of media and watching it.

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That's why it's.

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You know, giving giving you something that you have to

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treasure and not I want to inspire people. I don't

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want to harm them in any way. Yeah, I want

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to make sure that I'm helping them out, not putting

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them down.

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So what d are you hoping that romancing with the

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stars inspires others.

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To respect their mate and if they have something that

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is not getting a divorce right away, if they have

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some kind of breakup but talking about it, you know,

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respecting each other and bringing each other a rose every

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now and again.

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Yep, sometimes that's all it takes, right or listening or

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just listening paying attention right. You know, I think a

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lot of us we get into relationships and we kind

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of forget a lot of those things, and that kind

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of what makes things go a little sour. Because I'm

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a firm believer like you should be just as much

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in the honeymoon phase from day one as you are

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day sixty years later.

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It doesn't matter.

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Yeah, that's that's right, and praerish every day. Every day

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is new and you find out something new about your partner.

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Every day too, absolutely, So how can people check out

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all your books, but specifically this new one.

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They can go to Kathy Garber dot com, which is

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my website, and they can order any of my books

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they're Romancing with the Stars, and you get an autograph

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copy of it that way. You can get it on Amazon,

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but you don't get an autograph copy that way. So

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it's k A T H Y G A r V

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e R dot com, Kathy Garber dot com, Romancing with

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the Stars, and I'm on Facebook and Instagram. But that's

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the way to get the book is to go to

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my website.

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Nice and do you have any other words of wisdom

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or anything you want to share with the listeners?

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Believe in yourself and follow your heart.

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Those are like the best words ever. I don't even

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think we can talk that at this point. So you know,

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let I want to thank you for everything you've done

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for all these years, like going all the way back

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and still doing it. See you inspired me because you're

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still doing it now, because you know, it's just it's

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great to see creativity to continue to flourish.

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And it makes people feel good.

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I think if any you know, anyone you know, let's

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let's plant a flower and watch growth. That that's a

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little bit of creativity there. I think creativity helps keep

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you young and a thirty five year old.

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That they bring to the.

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House, right, yeah, well you you have the spirit of

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a thirty five year old. And I think everybody needs

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to read your books, especially the new one, or they

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can't listen to my show if they don't.

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But everyone should listen to the pipe Man.

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Well, thank you and thank you for being on the

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Adventures of Pipe Man.

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I really enjoyed it.

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Thank you, Hi, Uncappy, Garver, Sissy from family up there,

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and Spider Man and his amazing friends. And you're listening

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to the Pipe Man.

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On W four c Y radio.

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Thank you for listening to the Adventures of plate Man

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on w flour c u I Radio