Pipeman Radio Chats With Bless Your Dead & Horror Scene

0:04 Hi, you have done to censure. For Wow crazy you. Wake up America. It's time for the Adventures of Pipeman on W four c Y I com wes Pond Beach is number one Internet radio station. Here's your host, the vipe Man. Sorry so Sor, this is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four C Y Radio. And I'm here with our next guest, who is uh over on the other side of pond. So we're in like different parts of the day right now. I always love that. Yeah, you know, and uh and they have some badass new music.

1:02 So let's welcome to the show. Jay. How are you? I did Yeah, not too bad. I'm going to say, what time is it for you guys over there? It's nine o'clock for me in the morning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, wow. Yeah, you're automatically the first interview of the day. Amazing. That was a good one, man. Yeah. So I want to start off with the story behind your new project, Bless You're Dead, which is really not necessarily a new project. It's kind of a reinvented project. Yeah, yes, pretty much exactly that. So I met Mitch.

1:48 I think it was twenty twenty twenty four late twenty twenty four. That was when the band originally was, when we were Wolves. They kind of they got back together and we're looking for another guitarist. I put myself forward. I met Mitch. We jeled really well together when we were writing stuff. All of our ideas kind of flowed and connected and I would write a riff and then he would be like, oh, I can do something with this. So from then on we did that. We did a few tours, not last year, year before amazing. It's kind of my first experience doing a big tour and so I kind of got a lot out of that and really enjoyed myself. But we realized when we were writing new music it wasn't hitting the same is what we were, what the previous songs were like, it evolved into something else and with different lineup changes and stuff. So we kind of took a step back and just thought, maybe it's time we just rebranded, new name, new sound, new members.

3:13 And yeah, we spent the whole of last year just Mitch has got its own kind of makeshift studio and we've we've just been in that studio for the last year, just writing, getting everything we can't down. Even if we don't use it. We're like, oh, we'll just take bits from here, put it over here, put it in this song, to filming music videos and just just making a plan for this year really nice. And you know what I love about it is when I first saw the promo for your new single the first and like, before I decide to do an interview, I will listen to the music. Is like I don't get press people that try to do interviews with artists that they don't like the music, Like I mean, especially in metal, Okay, you have to have passion for the music to promote it, like it's not like it's pop, you know it, And an artist can tell too, like if you have a passion for the music. So I listen to your debut single, Everyone's a Target, which I feel that's like so appropriate for today, and you know it was a badass song. Then I read the description in the press release, like I listen to this, which is what I do. I don't want to be tainted.

4:44 I want to just listen to the music and then read the press release and I'm like, oh, I think I interviewed when we were Wolves at a festival, and like, what was cool about that? Is is you know, when you rebrand, like you're doing the main reason you rebrand is because you are kind of going in a different direction, and you don't not that you do this purposely, but you don't necessarily want people to only ever associate you with your beginnings. You know. It's like if Black Sabbath never changed their name from Earth to Black Sabbath, would we have ever known about them? We will never probably known.

5:37 That was something as well. When we were playing shows, we had a lot of the older Wolves fans attend the shows, and they would come up to us being like, Oh, be really sick if you could if you went and played these old songs. And we were just like, when we have no intentions of plans to play the old stuff. Right, sucked in a couple of old songs for the older fans, but going forward we did we kind of wanted to kind of get get those out of the set with and just played the newer music. And I think that was one of the things that made us kind of realized it's time for something new.

6:24 I mean, it makes total sense to me. Some people, like, you know, sometimes the old school fans may not like it because that's kind of way it is, but they they'll come back. It's just you know, when you're young and like kind of gatekeeping kind yeah, you know. It's like it's like for me when Metallica, you know, like I I was going to all our first shows. Ever, so when Metallica came out with the Black album, me and my friends were like, fuck them, posers, We're never listening to them again. There's still one of my favorite bands, but you know, oh yeah, yeah, It's like, but you have to rebrand some some times because like you said, like people are going to want to hear old stuff, and if you are going by the old name, you're kind of obligated to play that old stuff, you know, like just like bands have been around for forty years or songs they just don't want to play, but they have to, you know. Yeah, but by.

7:19 Brand people you said with Metallica, like you're going to hear in the Sanba. Like as much as people don't like the big like core fans are kind of feed up with people staying it's the best metallic song, Metallica will play that song live like they have to. Yeah, they have yeah, they have to. Yeah, Like me, I'd rather than like slip in something like metal Militia and take that out. They played. They played two days at Donard Festival a couple of years ago. I was there covering that, yeah, and. I remember they played a ryot and I was like, oh my god, I never thought I would ever hear them play this. Yeah. I was so happy with like the split sets because I I've just heard a bunch of Metallica and I've always wanted to hear live, and then I've got all the songs I've heard them play like before. But I was like, I'm finding this. This is great.

8:22 That is what's cool about the two day thing that they've been doing that for several years now, because it's like it's almost like each day is themed to a certain Metallica you know, with others sprinkled in, not one hundred percent, but like kind of like one day is for the old schoolers and the other days kind of for the new scores, you know, type of thing that's complete. That's great, Like did you hear what happened that download that year? Okay, so check this out? Was it with the like the traffic and the. No the noise Okay?

9:04 Yeah, that was that was what was just about to say. Apparently it was just so loud that everyone could hear it from like miles and miles and miles out. There were complaints like fifteen miles away, like see great the old school metal head like me, I'm like that's fucking cool man, And like there were people fifteen miles away that could hear it as if they were there, because basically, Metallica design this sound system where no matter where you are at music festival, it's you feel like you're at the front as far as sound does. Yeah, it's great, It's it's incredible, right. I think that if I didn't have Metallica, I would not be doing this.

9:52 Yeah see that? See that, and I'm browing me neither it would neither be neither of us would be here. You know. I owe a lot of that band. And that's what's cool because you know, I look at metal today and it definitely has evolved. And you know, it's like it's interesting because you take bands like Metallica and their inspirations, a lot of them aren't even metal, you know, because there was no such thing. You know, just like while I was a kid, you know, I was still my brother's albums. Who's eleven years older than me, and they're stuff like the Rascals and the Association, you know, because there wasn't like like I think about it now too.

10:40 I'm like, man, Helter Skelter definitely was a heavy metal song, you know. Yeah. I was reading Ossie's first book and he was talking about his influences and stuff, and I just thought, wow, yeah, like the Beatles would be your influence because right, what, there was no metal before before? You like, so hearing what other like a lot of the older bands is main influence as well. It was kind it is interesting compared exact nowadays. Yeah, Like, could you imagine having stuff like your music now back in the sixties, I think people well lost her mind.

11:23 Yeah, we literally people running at us and with like pitchforks and Satan worshipers and stuff. Yeah, totally. But like you know, they like to say that metal died. I go to these festivals like Download and Hellfest and all the DWP festivals here in the States, and I'm like, yeah, no, I don't think so. It's bigger and better than ever. It's because of bands like Metallica that created something new. Yeah, you know, you wouldn't have thought of playing music like it is today in metal back then, because you know, it just wouldn't have made sense in your head even though it did, you know, like even even take I was just watching something recently and Henry Rowlins was talking about why he stopped doing music, and his thing was like, basically, once I couldn't write songs anymore, I'm not gonna just play and be like a legacy band or my own tribute band. Like he's like, it's cool if other bands do that, like they go and you know, they just play their you know, their hits. He's like, that's just not me. I gotta play new music. So that brings us right back around to what you guys are feeling.

12:52 You have new music, you want to play that new music. That's what you want representing you, And I gotta tell you it's freaking badass. Yeah, thank you. Yeah. We are really really proud with how this has gone down. Really, it's like like we really wanted a song to come out and just really like just kind of like hit you in the face. And with the first line of the song is I'm coming out swinging. We That's what we really wanted to do is just kind of be like this is us, this is our sound.

13:36 And what would you and what would you say as the artist? Is the difference between your sound now and the sound before. I'd say, now we're a little bit more. We like we're just trying to think of the word for this. Actually, it's kind of it's kind of hard to like talk about it can like because we were new, were just there was nothing tied to us, so we could really just throw out this is that, this is our sound.

14:17 It's that it's a real blend of heavy, down tuned music with a nice strong modern take. There's a lot of our influences. It's kind of all we do have a lot of old school influences. I'm a big lamb of good guy, so I'll try and get in those really really twiddly fiddly stuff. Our other guitarist Jack, he's really into his death metal. So it's the whole song has like a blend of genres. See I love that about nowadays. Yeah, because there's a certain mellow in everyone is a target which has that death metal take to it where I'm like a real like metal coorter guy, like my five seven eight riffs, that's my kind of favorite thing to play. We all just kind of blend it all into one kind of genre, and that's kind of what we kind of birth really nice. Yeah, it's it's uh, it's good.

15:33 I love that today though, because like you know, back in the eighties, you know, you were either this or you're that, and you couldn't like both, you know, type of thing. You know, that's like we always have when we write music, is we write a verse that is so heavy, and then we'll come into the chorus with something like beautifully melodic, like I'm a bit a big kill switch engage fan, me and Mitch, so we really lean in on those melodic choruses and He'll write this gorgeous local melody and I'll try and compliment that with a really nice kind of fiddley lead line over the chorus. And we seem to me and Mitch have like a nice like routine of we know the chorus is going to be really good, Like the chorus will always like have that real anthemic kind of sound that we want everyone to sing along to.

16:45 And that that you know what that is what makes great music, even if it doesn't matter how heavy you are, there has to be something that gets you, like where it's stuck in your head. Yeah, and that that's the point, and you know, the blending of genres to me, I love that today also because I find that a lot of bands, especially like in metalcore, use like this formula, right, Like there's a formula for making metal music. And you go back to the days of Metallica's beginning in the Big Four. They were thrash metal, but nobody set out to be thrash metal, so they didn't really sound the same, you know, like like but now it's like you have these bands, if they're all on the same page, they all sound the same, you know, Whereas if you bring in other influences, that's what makes you stand out and be unique and create the new music. You know. Like you take a band like Slayer, two of the band members were metal heads, two were punkers, and that's how you created the crossover scene before that, you know, Like I loved punk. I couldn't go to punk shows. I would have gotten my ass beat because I was along, you know.

18:03 Yeah, it's the same with like metal now, like you've got like the hardcore scene where I've gone to some of those shows and I'm just like I'm going to stand at the back because I feel safe. At the back. Yeah, it's yeah, like we just love blending just all of these different genres that I've I like to write, write like a nice, dirty, mean breakdown in the song. So I kind of when when we're when we're writing, we'll all throw our ideas together and I'm just like, let's just try this a second, and we'll all look at each other and be like, yeah, that's that's that's that's it.

18:52 And that's where it should be too, because like, okay, so I used to play guitar. I sucked. But you know in the beginning, my dad would you say to me and hear me, He's like, oh, you should give that up. You suck. And what it was really just doing was I wasn't playing anything. I was just experimenting. I wanted to see what sounds I could make. And I think that's part of being an artist, is like experimenting, because otherwise you're just regurgitating what everybody else has already done. So you gotta try to do things differently. Again, going back to the Sabbath model, would we have metal today had Tony Iomi not had to change the way he played because of his accident, you know.

19:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah, like, yeah, I think whatever happened. One of the bands that do it beautifully is Bring to the Horizon. Oh yeah, they're my top five by the way. Yeah. Yeah. I think if you're a modern musician now and you're in a band and you've just started, I think everyone would probably say bring me the as in a kind of one of their main influences. Like every album they just smash it. Just they're so smart at what they do. And well I and I thought of them with your story because basically they didn't rebrand, but they rebranded how they were playing music, and yeah, people got pissed off.

20:24 And Ali said in an interview, yeah, Allie said the interview though, he's like, wow, I want to play write the same song over and over again and like that. That's so insightful of what an how an artist would feel. Hm, you know, like just every album they've released, it's just it's something different, but it's incredible. Yeah. Yeah, I'd love to just go into the mind of mind of that band and just how do you do this right? And I don't fly on the wall in the studio.

21:05 It's like it's going to just take notice a second. And I consider myself lucky because I came in late to game for Bring Me to Rise. And Okay, so you know, because I do coverage at music festivals all over the US, UK and Europe, and I remember they were playing a festival one year. I think it was like fifteen years ago. It was right when That's the Spirit came out. Okay, so I had never heard their stuff before, weirdly enough, and because of that, I feel like I love all their music and all their transformations. Whereas if I had originally just been one of those original Death Corps fans of Bring Me, I would prob maybe I would think the same way as they do. Like, but you know, as an artist, you have to grow, you have to change, you have to you know, as you're game better. You know, when you start off a lot of times with a band when you're a teenager, you don't really know what you're doing, and so you learn the craft and you want to get better and expand you don't want to stay a teenager learning how to play your instrument.

22:16 M Yeah, yeah, I just make weird noises. If I'm honest, I love it. There's really like dissonant notes and like how can I make something sound really horrible and just like unattractive? I love it? So yeah, yeah, we we do experiment quite a lot with some weird, weird sounds and stuff. Yeah. So you know, it's funny because that goes back to what I was saying. What when my dad was saying that I sucking all but see me? To me, that's part of the what I was talking about. Being an artist. You want, you want to just do whatever the fuck you want to see what you can come up with, you know, And.

22:59 It's just taking about what you like. It's about what you like. If you make the music you like, you'll you'll get your people that like your music. You know, if you try to fake it. If you try to fake it, you won't get anybody. You can't be you can't appease other people, appease yourself, and then you'll you'll gather your tribe for sure. Yeah. So what's uh, what's next for twenty twenty six for you guys? New music? Lots of new music. We're playing our first show in April Noise Fest.

23:39 Yeah, I saw that. I have to check that out. Yeah, it's run by an incredible bunch of people. It's just full of fantastic talent as well, So we are really humbled to be beyond the bill, considering that we didn't actually have a song out when they announced us for the festival. We started dropping the teasers for the track when we were getting like announced for the festival, so we're really hoping that when we play, people would have heard of the track and wanted to check us out, like here some more stufferboils nice. So yeah, it's it's exciting.

24:24 We've got a few other bits lined up. We need to get your blood We need to get your blood Stock. To play blood Stock. Yes, I'd love to play blood Stock. Your band would fit perfectly there too. Yeah, it's a strong line up this year. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's We've got a lot of stuff planned it. It's pretty exciting. We've we've spent a whole of last year planning for this year, so now everything is in like right, all gears go, go go, that's like this, so yeah, we've all well what's great about us as well is we've all got our own areas of work that we like to do in the band. So I'm off sorting out like potential merchandise and stuff. Like that, making sure everything's like up to date, so everything is coming.

25:29 And with the reception we've had on this first single, it's really like made all of us really like, Okay, yeah, let's do this now, like let's really put everything into we do. I love it. Tell everybody how they can reach out to you guys on socials, check out new music and and speaking of merch, how they can buy your merch because they can't listen to my show and let's say buy your merch. Oh yeah, that'd be great. Yeah, we are on all streaming platforms, so like Apple Music, Spot, Fine, Amazon, it's just blessed your dad again with all the socials, it's blessed your dead on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok because yep, we're cool.

26:16 We do TikTok. Do you have an embarrassing TikTok one that you're embarrassed about? People do? So you do if you don't. Mitch did make an incredible TikTok on his personal account of him buttering his crumpet, and I think that sparked a few weird ideas for him to implement on the band. TikTok. Well, there you go. That's what everybody's got to follow you on TikTok that to look forward. I'm sure we'll do a funny dance video at some point, so everyone loves those, right right, Yeah, we've are. Yeah, we've got some really exciting stuff coming up. Yeah, we like the next couple of songs really like, if you liked this one, you'll love the next the next couple of tracks.

27:14 Nice, Well yeah, I bet I will then because I did love this one, and I think everybody else will too. Do you have any final words you are and say the people that we haven't covered already. If you do love the track, like, share it, like, send it to your friends, post it online, just let us know that you like it, because with the messages we have been getting in the comments on the posts, we do appreciate every word that has been said because we've put so much passion and love into this. It's nice to see like the hard work we have put in because it's kind of being paid. That's the love we've been getting on the track.

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28:53 This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe Man W four C by Radio. When I'm here with our next guest. It has some badass music and so let's welcome to show horror scene. Hey, how's it going. Thanks for having me on, appreciate it. Hey, great to have you. And so what I love about your music is not only the appearance. Wise, I do love, like you know, people that go way above to call a duty. When it comes to creativity. Anybody can just get up there and just play and stand still, but it takes a whole nother level to give a performance, because that's what a live show is, a performance. Oh sure, you know, but I also love even more that your music.

29:43 I talk about this all time too. It blends genres. Like, to me, the best bands nowadays, specially in the metal area, is when they blend all types of metal genres or other genres, because if you're only very specific, like they have these genres, they are so stupidly specific that it's you know, the music is just formulas at that point, there's like no uniqueness about it. So it does you know. They used to say when in the eighties that it all sounded the same, but it didn't. Now the people I argued with about that, I'm like, yeah, you're right, it does kind of sound at the same, you know, the ones now not then. But then bands like you don't because you are bringing other influences in and it's not just oh, we can only do this type of metal, you know, right, So tell us a little bit about your creative process and how things work with the band on blending these genres and bringing everything together to make horror scene.

30:50 I mean, our process is pretty easy for the most part. Like some of people come come over with a guitar riff and everybody will just kind of work off for that, and sometimes like, well, you know, we'll come with a chorus, the pre chorus, get the verse down and then sometimes while we're putting things together, like, hey, what we played here in the verse is cool, but it doesn't really fit this. Let's pull that out, but we can use that somewhere else. And that's pretty much how that all works. Like, you know, we'll just blend it all together, and then you know, using the keys and synth and that techno and and and dance stuff that we throw in there. It's just it's just fun, like messing everything together. I like the keyword fun because if you're a musician and you're not having fun, this is the wrong industry because a lot of it is a bunch of shit.

31:39 So if you're not having fun in the creative process, right, where are you having fun? Absolutely love that. Uh what was that moment in time that you thought to yourself, this is what I need to do. Like what was that one thing that hooked you in when you were young? I just music in general, you know, growing up my parents listening to you know, Billy joel and and Elton John, you know, bands like that, and like I was always fascinated with how music just came together. So you know, as a young young kid, I started up playing violin. Then I went to trombone, and then I turned to drums and I haven't moved back since. So yeah, I mean, for me, I mean that that aha moment, if you will.

32:26 I was started at a very very young age. It's just the whole creative process behind it is what really lashed me on to it. I love hearing that you went from trombone to drums. And I say that because you know, like I was in school, band, school, orchestra. I played drums for ten years. So I was in the percussion of the orchestra and I played everything in percussion, and then I used to look over at the other kids that were playing trumpet and trombone. I'm like, I might want to try that. That looks pretty cool. So so it's kind of cool that you went the other way. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's oddly enough though, when I went to trombone, I forget what grade that was, I want to say sixth or seventh grade, and we were allowed to like pick an instrument. I initially wanted to start out on drums with the music teacher that we had at the times, like I have too many drummers here, why don't you try trombone? So it wasn't even like anything I even.

33:21 Wanted to do. Sometimes that's how you know you find your your path though, right. Oh, for sure, I will tell you. I will say one thing though, start, you know, going to a brass instrument like the trombone, like my favorite, uh cleft out of base and treble's bass. I love bass, cleft, all fine stuff, yeah, nice. And you know, it's funny because I think I've changed throughout the years because I've always been like a very like when i'd listen to music younger, I would like put the treble up to the max, and I didn't care as much about the bass as the treble, and now kind of like, no, I like it more balanced now, and I've even you know, it's funny. I go and I do you know, radio coverage at music festivals all over to US, UK, Europe, and I never wear earplugs like I don't like them. I don't want, I don't and I think it doesn't make it. I think it makes the music worse. And I've stood up against motorheads speakers with my ear up to it, you know, and like I still hear pretty well, So I'm okay at this point. But there was one festival I can't remember what it was, but one man, I have like thousands and thousands of sets I've been to that the treble actually hurt my ears. I was up in the I was up in the photo pit, and they had that treble so high that I literally, like it, my ears

34:56 were in pain. And that never happens to me, Like a I could be up there in the photo pit or anywhere closed, I could stand right next to the speaker, doesn't bother me at all. So maybe that is a thing that like maybe over time your ears get more sensitive to the treble than the bass, because I don't think the base really affects your ears the same way as treble. Doth No, probably not, because I mean it's trouble. That's all your high end, like all the high end stuff at least you know, mids and base that's all you know, obviously your lower end things. But yeah, I just always you know, like I said, doing trombone, I just always loved the base cleft, uh after that because for me, like I like to feel everything.

35:37 Yeah, totally, like especially bands. He's like eight to eight drops. I love that. I love all of that, Like you' spending times right, like they hit like a floor tome or something at the same time and eight o eight drops. I love how that that messes up? Well, it's funny you should say that because I was with concert during the summer that I brought my brother and oh well he was complaining the whole time. Is because the bass was like beating in his chest and I had the exact opposite feeling. I'm like, man, I love it. It feels good. It feels like I'm part of the music about it. Yeah, right, So what was it that made you turn to You know a lot of us metal heads are into horror and stuff, but what made you turn to combining those two loves into one.

36:30 So when this band first started, we were actually operating under a different name. When this band first started, we were called Suicide Puppets. Up until recently, I want to say, about four or five months ago, did we do a whole rebrand to Horror Scene. Now, even under Suicide Puppets, everything was still horror related, you know, murder, killing, death, fun stuff like that. As far as our lyrics go. I was It's just one of those things. Like us as a band, it just made sense, like we all love horror. We all loved metal, we all industrial metal, and we just kind of like smashed everything together. But like, this is who we're going to be because this is everything that we love. I love it. And it's so funny you said what you did because my okay, before you, I did my live showing them. Before that, I did another interview and that band did a whole rebranding. So today's the day of rebranding. But listen, the most successful rebranding of all time was Black Sabbath. You know, they were originally Earth and then like, could you imagine if they were still a cold Earth? I don't think they would be as relevant today. Nobody would care not Yeah, I.

37:39 Mean well the rebrand was almost out of necessity as well. Yeah, with suicide in our band name, we were getting smashed in algorithms. Google wouldn't even. Let us advertise anymore, so we had to do a rebrand. But but you're. Right, I think this is this name fits us a little bit better. Plus we have like I think there's eight films right now that are two of them are out, but the other uh six are in post production that features our music, and they're all horror films. So it works out. So we need I think what we need in twenty twenty six or twenty twenty seven is a tour of Zombie Ice nine kills.

38:22 And you guys, I am one thousand percent on board with that idea. Right right, oh man, But I do love, like I said in the beginning, have did it combined? Like people there are haters on that. Like I'm old school from the eighties, so a lot of my old school metal head friends are like, I hate depends pretty missed today. It's stupid, and I'm like, no, I think it's kind of cool, man. It just makes it makes for a better show. And I've even thought about myself. Okay, So I thought about myself because I've interviewed a bunch of people that wear masks or makeup, and then when I see him without hi, I'm like, oh, well that's why you do that. So I'm like, I'm like, you know, I'm thinking myself. Okay, I'm fifty nine years old. You know I could wear a mask, start a band and just get really big like sleep Token, and take my mask off and say ha ha, fuckers, I'm sixty years old.

39:32 I mean, well that's I mean, that's the beauty behind it though, like you know, like you said, like when we initially when we started out, we didn't do. Any of the face paint all that stuff. And and of course, like sometimes when we run ads, like recently, we were running an ad because we dropped a single back on January second, a song called Yau, and we'd run an ad for it because our song previously that Welcome to Your Hell, breached number sixteen on the Metal Contraband topic charts, so we were kind of promoting to it. At one shot said hey, you know chart climbing metal band whatever. I forget how it was worded at. This point, and it was sent out there and like you should have seen the hate comments like oh, gimmicky bind, it's already been done, blah blah blah.

40:18 It's like I never understood that. Like if you don't like something, that's fine, but like what really compels you to like just throw so much hate? You know what I mean? Yeah, you're listen. Most of my show today, my live show was about how ridiculous people are being with the bad bunny thing at the Super Bowl set aside the politics or any of that shit, Like what do you care? Didn't tune out, don't watch the fifteen minutes of the halftime show, Like, who give? Like there's plenty a halftime shows that I didn't want to watch. I don't care. It didn't bother me enough to throw hate. You know.

40:59 It's like, so what switched to something else? You know, they had all these alternatives, so go watch that alternative? Who cares? You know? But like, I don't know why it's such a big deal, Like it's stupid that everything's going to be such a big deal and music should be such a big deal. My other peeve is like where they say people that are musicians shouldn't have a voice. Uh, it's the exact opposite, morons, That's just what I'm gonna say, Like, of course they should have a voice. They are also people that can exercise free them of speech, and if they want to speak their mind about things, that's our prerogative. All music since the beginning of time that wasn't pop music did that, you know, right, Rock has always done that, you know, spoke up about things. You know, you don't have to agree with it. Don't listen you don't like it. To your point, I don't get why people waste their breath with hate, Like, if you hate it, I'm cool. Keep it to yourself. Yeah right, you know, what do you do?

42:13 You know? But I think no matter what you do, you're gonna get it. I see it with the festivals too. We went for two years with no live music, festivals came back. I'm like, oh man, this is gonna be great because all those people that were bitching all the time won't be bitching anymore because they just realize what it's like to not have live music. They're still bitching, Like it just blows my mind. What I love the ones that when they're going to a festival and one band drops out for whatever reason, they're like, oh, that's the only reason I was going to a festival. Well, that's a stupid idea. Go to their concert. Then I go to festivals to discover new music. They don't play their regular set at a festival. If you're only going for one band good at their concert, you'll be better off.

43:03 Yeah, how about it? And that's an expensive ticket for one band if you. Think about it, you know what I mean, no doubt, And like, why would you miss other bands? How would you know about the one band you're going to see? If you didn't see them for the first time. Like some of my favorite bands, I didn't know who they were. And that's the way it was in the eighties too, Like that's where stuff like what you're doing with all the entertainment performance bar of it. It's like, listen, we couldn't hear music before we bought it, so we went by the album cover. Yeah, and gigs. I remember the first club gig I ever went to. My dad moved me from New Jersey to LA in nineteen eighty if you can imagine a time to move to La Okay, And so I saw this ad for this band playing at the Roxy on the Sunset Strip. I had never been to a club show ever, and I was and I went just because of the way they looked. Now, this was before they ever had an album, so they were kind of like horror punk at the time. And that was Motley Crue. Yeah, And I mean, like I remember going to that show. I'm like, I'm never going to a real concert again, because to me, equate the real concerts were boring. This was exciting. There was a lot of stuff going on and a lot of performance and all that, you know. And then the second club show I ever did similar type of scenario. I saw

44:34 this ad in band magazine and the headliner their picture was there and it was Wasp. Was Wasp Armored Saint in this band headshaker. I mean, to this day, I'm friends with the bands from Armored Saint because but I mean that just totally turned me. Those things totally turned me into a metal head. Like I liked the medal before that, Yeah, but those live experiences like you produce are what got me into it. If I there's one band that plays at festivals, all the press people make fun of because they only just stand there and play, and we all call them the most boring band live ever. And if that's what I experienced a band like that, maybe I wouldn't be a metal head today.

45:18 Yeah, exactly. You know it's supposed to be like a show. Yeah, it's And even as a musician, dude, if you're up there just standing around like and you look bored, it's like, are you. Even enjoying what you're doing? Right when I'm behind the kit, you know, I'm moving around, flinging things around and what like, I mean, I'm having fun and it should be fun. And you know what a lot of people throw hate towards Lars, and he always looks like he's having fun, you know. So okay, you know, and he was right about you know, Napster, so oh yeah, everybody gave a mate for that. So I'd say, just let people be people express themselves. That's what being Anoris Day is. Expressing yourself the way you want to express and you'll collect your tribe, you know, the people that like it. You know, again, I don't get wasted time you don't like something listening to something else period, you know, watch something else. Okay, So what else do you have on the horizon here for twenty twenty six, Well, we.

46:22 Have more releases coming out. So we started working with a notable producer named Dan Malchch. Dan Mausch has produced bands like Ghost Gojira, A Bench Seven, Full Door Petch, you know, small little metal bands, and he started working with us last year. So we're going back up to his studio. At the end of March, so next month, and we actually have another single dropping the same time that we're going into the studio. We're trying to get things geared up. More than likely, either in an EP or an LP is going to be dropping this year. We are currently working on a tour for the month or around August time frame is where we're looking at. So we do have a festival coming up in March.

47:08 That's March. I think it's March sixth and March ninth. It's Inked and Loud at the York Fairgrounds in York, Pennsylvania. I think as of right now, that's kind of where we're sitting on things. But we are doing a lot of writing and whatnot, so there's there's a lot of other things like moving parts going on behind the scenes. So yeah, but I mean there's there's a lot coming this year for sure. So here's what I want to know too that I think I already know the answer. Okay, So when you put on the makeup and get all dressed up for your live show, is it almost like you go into a transformation and become the musician. It's kind of like me, like as soon as the mike turns on, there's a switch in my head that radio personality comes out, you know, like automatically, I don't even think about it. Do you think that's the when you're like in those costumes in the makeup, like you transform and like kind of be that that entity, so to speak, I.

48:10 Would say yes, yeah, because we all have different stage names like minds Vetitas our drummer or our drummer. I am the drummer, our lead singer. He goes by Twisty, our bass player goes by Johnny. We have three guitar players Steven and Victus and z so we all have stage names. So yeah, absolutely, as soon as like the makeup goes on and whatnot, like we become that persona. We embody who that individual is. Another another good point about putting on makeup and whatnot is like if you're especially when it comes to local shows, like if we're standing around, even if we're not next to each other, you know that we are together as a band.

48:50 Yeah you know what I mean. So that's another reason why we do the makeup. But yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah, we definitely become our personas wants the makeup. Well, it's like me, my radio Monker persona is pipe Man, and there is a different persona to it, like part of it is real me and part of it is the alter ego me. But it is so funny that even my kids sometimes now will call me pipe Man and then Alexa calls me pipe man all the time, so that's always funny. Nice, but uh, how do people reach out to you, uh, you know on socials on the web by your merch all that good stuff.

49:34 So your your best bed is just go to our lenk tree, which is horsing uh coursing band. I believe you can go to our dot com which is horsingband dot com, which that'll be your gateway to everywhere Facebook, Instagram, TikTok. YouTube, Spotify. Our merch site is a different site, but you can still get there from our our main band page, So puppet merch dot com so where you can purchase all of your horse same year. We recently just got new hoodies in which is kind of cool. Unfortunately I don't have. Any with me to show you, but it's basically just has the logo on the front of the hoodie. It's pretty cool. Nice. Nice. I bet you have some badass merch and people can't like listen to my show anymore unless they buy your march.

50:21 Well people items, to say the least, some of my wife, my wife came up with. We have these like little voodoo dolls that come with their own pins and needles and stuff. We have. We have something that's called the Serial Killer Archives, which is a box that's filled with uh like that kinetic sand stuff. And inside the kinetic sand we have these USB I actually have one here, Unfortunately I don't have the bottom on it. But we have these USB's that look like coffins. Oh wow, that's cool. It had Yeah, it has the old band name on it. But it's got two full albums on it. But when you open up the box, there's a shovel in there in a headstone. You have to dig the USB out of the dirt. I see, that's creativity. Like that brings me back because I think it's stuff like that that kids are missing out nowadays with albums, you know, because like I remember being a kid and buying love gun, and that was when the popper things in school were very popular. You would make these paper popper things, and so they made the Kiss made a love gun. That was one of those poppers. But it was the Kiss love gun. And you know, of course you could get in trouble in school because you were using school and you know, but I used to love, like I'd buy albums and there would be gifts in there. Sometimes or like I got really into the Beatles because of the nineteen sixty nine radio show that Paul McCartney was dead and you had to buy all the albums to get the clues. So

51:52 I bought every Beatles album to check out the clues and play the album backwards and all that stuff. You know, kids don't get to do that cool stuff anymore, you know about it. I remember when I was like a kid in the nineties when CDs became a thing, like half the fun was buying the CD of your favorite band or whatever, and then there would be like hidden tracks on it. Yeah, totally, totally, or like that. When Motley Cruze came out with the first album, there were only like I think there were only like thirty copies of the original which had a real zipper on the cover, like a real working zipper like you see it in the picture now, but actually and it was like, wow, that's so cool to have that, you know, and absolutely, Like I remember one of tools CDs had like a magnifying glass. It had like it was I forget which album, but it was black at full I still have it black over and it had like a little magnifying class in the CD cover. Ah, you know, it was wild, so like I think we need to go back to that. It's like kind of it's kind of like if you had happy meals at McDonald's without toys. It's not as much fun. Yeah. Yeah.

53:18 And it's weird though too, because like even when this band first started, we still have physical copies of things, but now when we buy physical copies of things, we buy like way less now because with all the digital agent where and everybody just goes you know, they'll stream it right away or I'll just get it off of iTunes this side or the other. But like we did vinyl recently for our last EP No. Two EPs ago, Beyond the Veil, and I mean we sold quite a bit because there's a big resurgence in vinyl, which is kind of cool. But we're still sitting on media, just sitting on it. You know, nobody buys physic It's it's it's hard. Man, yeah it is. And you know what's interesting about vinyl now, I just found this out recently. I was taking my granddaughter to get a holiday gift and she wanted a record album. Like two of my grandkids are total record collectors, So I think that's so cool, and uh I remember looking at the price, I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? It was like thirty six dollars for an album. I still have albums that still have the price tag on them at home, at say like two ninety nine for like something. I have an album by Death that was two ninety nine. Like I've exploited albums that were like two and three dollars, you know, stuff like that. I think I have a bathroom album that was ninety nine cents, yeah, like anymore right exactly,

54:54 and I bought them because listen, you couldn't hear what it sounded like. It was like okay for ninety nine cents for two dollar, I don't give a crap if I don't like it and the album looks cool, right, would you do that today? We kid go buy a thirty dollars album with not knowing though it sounds like I don't even know how to go to gigs today, to be honest, Like I went to see Metallica where I paid two bucks for a ticket and five bucks for a shirt, Like I don't know how kids can even go to a show today. Yeah, I mean ticket prices are pretty high, yeah, merch merch nowadays. I mean it's I'm all for the merch though, because it's the only way you guys make money. Like, I think a lot of people don't realize that, so I make a big deal about it. I was joking about not listening, but I wasn't really either, because it's like, you know, it's the only way you guys make money, your pete. The days of the rock star getting these massive amounts of money and drugs is totally over, okay, Like you guys have to work your ass off, okay, And I just think, you know, you guys deserve to make a living. You're working hard. And when people say, oh, they should just blow up. Do you work for free?

56:08 Is what I say to them, Like it is. It is what you need to make a living. So support bands by their merch, specially Horror Seeing, because again, can't listen to my show unless you buy their merchant. They probably have a cool cools merchant You're going to love forever, So just get it right. We have cough We have coff and keychains too. I mean, who doesn't want a cough and key chack exactly? You know that that's beautiful. I love it. Well, thanks a lot for giving us great music, and thanks for being on the Adventures of Payment Awesome. Appreciates you having me on. It's been fun, my pleasure and I love fun. Thank you for listening to the Adventures of plate Man on w for CUI Radio.