Sept. 26, 2025

PipemanRadio Interviews Gooseberry About Bourbon & Beyond 2025

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Pipeman and Asa of Gooseberry discuss how amazing Bourbon & Beyond 2025 Festival was and how amazing they were treated by DW Presents and by the fans. We also talked about touring and new music for end of 2025 and 2026.

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Bourbon & Beyond is the World’s Largest Bourbon, Food & Music Fest

Bourbon & Beyond Kicked Off America’s 8 Biggest Days In Music on September 11-14 In Louisville, Kentucky

World’s Largest Bourbon, Food & Music Festival Featured Headliners The Lumineers, Benson Boone, Alabama Shakes (Thursday), Phish, Khruangbin, Joe Bonamassa (Friday), Sturgill “Johnny Blue Skies” Simpson, Jack White, Vance Joy (Saturday), Noah Kahan, Goo Goo Dolls, Megan Moroney (Sunday), Plus Dozens More Rock, Americana, Bluegrass And Alt Rock Artists Along With Elevated Bourbon & Culinary Experiences.

The seventh Bourbon & Beyond welcomed fans from over 50 states and around the globe and over 120 music artists on five stages to Louisville, Kentucky over the weekend. The World’s Largest Bourbon, Food & Music Festival was held from September 11-14 at the at Kentucky Exposition Center in Louisville, Kentucky and featured an incredible music lineup of music legends and rising stars with headliners The Lumineers, Benson Boone and Alabama Shakes on Thursday; Phish, Khruangbin and Joe Bonamassa on Friday; Sturgill “Johnny Blue Skies” Simpson, Jack White and Vance Joy on Saturday; and Noah Kahan, Goo Goo Dolls and Megan Moroney on Sunday. The lineup also included Cage The Elephant, Pat Benatar & Neil Giraldo, Collective Soul, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Iron & Wine, Trombone Shorty & Orleans Avenue, Switchfoot, Third Eye Blind, Ringo Starr & His All Star Band, Pixies, Lake Street Dive, Dashboard Confessional, Foreigner, Blues Traveler and many others.

This year, Bourbon & Beyond’s newly expanded footprint doubled the square footage of past layouts, and made greater use of the Kentucky Exposition Center’s infrastructure, creating a more comfortable and resilient experience for fans. In addition, all festival passes included FREE access to amusement rides inside Kentucky Kingdom.

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Hi, you love one to the censure.

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For se Wow for you young.

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It is the Pipe Man here on the Adventures pipe

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Man W four c Y Radio. And I'm actually back

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in the studio from both Bourbon and Beyond and Louder

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than Life, and uh, we have a band right now

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that we're going to talk about that performed at Bourbon

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behind It. In fact, they're like right behind me there

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performing at Bourbon Beyond.

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You know.

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So let's let's welcome to the show ASO from Gooseberry.

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How are you good?

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Thanks for having me, Oh my pleasure, and so first,

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right off the bat, tell me about your experience playing

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at Bourbon Beyond.

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Yeah, I guess, in one word, it was incredible. It

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was definitely the largest festival we've ever played, and we've

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played a couple before, but the scale of Bourbon Beyond

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was just far beyond anything that we had done, and

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they still treated us like royalty, you know, Like I

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feel like we got the same kind of treatment that

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you know, Pixies or Jack White or whatever is getting,

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which is a testament I think to what Danny and

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his team are doing over there.

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But it's just really cool.

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I don't know, I you know, even just like hopping

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in an artist transport to get from one stage to

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another is just like a unique thing that you don't

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recognize when you're just attending a festival, you know. I've

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been to many, just like as a as a fan

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just walking around and seeing bands. Yeah, there's just so

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many little things about what going on at the festival

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that were really cool for us to get to do

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and get to see and get to meet people and

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just see a lot of amazing bands.

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Play nice And yeah, I already answered one of my

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other questions because I always like to ask the artists

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at the Wimmer festivals how does he treat the artists?

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And then, like sixteen years of doing his festivals, I've

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never heard an artist say one bad thing.

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I mean, yeah, I guess the only bad thing I

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can say about Danny is that after he was very

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gracious and I met him the day before on Friday,

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and we were lucky enough to get to hang out

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in his little backyard party area. He had mentioned to

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me that he actually has an old whiskey that he's

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been aging since the start of the festival, and I

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made him promise that he would give me some if

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we earned it. You know, from our performance, and then

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I guess Saturday was so busy. I only saw him

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briefly that day, so unfortunately, you know, we had to

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keep on with tour and we left Kentucky without my

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getting a taste of the aged Bourbon and Beyond whiskey.

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So well, then that means one thing.

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Yeah, that means you're gonna have to play it again.

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And that's what I That's what I was trying to

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tell him. I guess we'll see if that lands. You know,

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we're also if he doesn't want, you know, us to

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be back to back at Bourbon and Beyond makes total

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total sense, Louder than life.

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There you go do that. Yeah, I love it. I

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love it.

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And that's what's cool about bands like you and some

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other band on the Bourbon Beyond ticket is they could

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play either festival.

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Yeah, yeah, Like the range of acts that they had

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at burb Beyond was pretty crazy, right right, Like we

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were playing the same day. Obviously, you know Ringo's playing,

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but then you also have Jack White, you also have

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like their bluegrass bands, you have like I know there

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was like pop stars you have like you know, Benson Boone.

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At some point in Noakan like being able.

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To see all these different things and have a stage

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that has music for anyone who's coming.

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It's pretty incredible.

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Yeah, So I love that because the United States was

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never liked that europe festivals were like that, and I

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think that that's the page that Danny took out of

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the European festivals, you know, like where it doesn't have

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to be boxed into one genre. It can be because

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listen all of us, you know, like different kinds of music,

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and like, sure, I am a total metal head, but

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I also was totally pumped to see Blues Traveler, Yeah, Gooseberry,

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you know, Fish and like a whole list of artists

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on Bourbon Beyond.

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You know that.

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You know, some people think, well, he's a metal head,

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he listens to that. No, we all listen to different

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types of music and have different vibes man music's music.

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Yeah, and particularly finding good music.

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I think like that is something that a festival like

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this that has.

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Such a wide range of acts.

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I think the element of discovery is great for people

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who like obviously people are coming to see Fish, to

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come see you know, Stugel Simpson wherever it might be, right,

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that's the headliner. That's the point of the headliner, but

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having strength top down, which like I'd like to think

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we're you know, adding to that, but the reality is

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a lot of the bands that are on our level,

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a little bit above our level, that are playing earlier

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in the day. I got to catch a bunch of them,

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and they were also incredible. So like to be able

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to have not just headliners that you've locked in that

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allow people to go, wow, that's crazy that you got,

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you know, I mean, fish playing in festival like this

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is insane, you know, right, but.

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Then to also have that as you move down the

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list is pretty.

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Cool, well, you know.

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And the thing is is that, you know, there's so

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many different stages, there's so many different bands that you know,

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people pop can come and see who they want to see,

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and you know, it still doesn't take away from the

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other crowds because like you're set, and even sets a

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lot earlier than yours, Like there were crowds and crowds

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of people.

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Yeah, yeah, I was not convinced anybody would show up

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for us to play, you know. I kind of think

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that pretty much anytime we walk on stage, anytime that

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somebody is there, I'm kind of just just grateful that

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somebody decided to show up. But you know, we were

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playing at two pm on a Saturday, and it was

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the hottest day of the festival.

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It was like eighty eight almost ninety degrees.

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Yeah, and we were playing at the Revival Stage, which

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is one of the main stay I mean, it's a

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big stage, but it's the stage where.

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It's just concrete. Like there wasn't the turf for grass

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or whatever they have. It's the other ones which can

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at least, like you know, take any heat and spread out.

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This was like concrete. So not only is there no shade,

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the sun's beaten down on you. It's like the hottest

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time of the day and is nowhere for it to go.

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So I was like, no one's coming on this, like

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they're going to just go somewhere else. But you know,

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when we started there were probably like a couple hundred people.

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By the time we ended, they're probably close to a

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thousand like that.

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That was awesome.

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Did not expect that, and I think people enjoyed it,

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and so we enjoyed it.

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I think that's a testament to your talent, because like

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if you start at two hundred and end up at

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a thousand. Yeah, that means you drew people over at

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that point.

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I'd like to hope so, or you know, maybe they

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if they thought they were walking towards the third eye

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blind and then went.

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Back, OK, we're here, we're here. We might as well

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stick around for a little bit and see what this

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is all about.

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Well, see, what I love about festivals is that's where

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I find all the new music. Okay, yeah, So, like

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I'll be walking through a festival if I'm not working,

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which is kind of hard to do, but I'll be

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walking through and I'll hear sometime like, oh, let me

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check that out. And there were so many bands that

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I caught parts of, you know, because I was working

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in the media a tempt but I caught parts of that.

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I never even knew the bands existed, you know, because

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I'm so involved in the other Wimmer festivals and other

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festivals around the world that like, this is something like

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what was it that I went to that was pretty good?

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It is something salmon leftover salmon?

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Oh, leftover salmon.

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I mean, so I've never listened to them, and I

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went over and I'm like, oh man, they're pretty cool,

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Yeah, yeah, I mean Leftover Sam has been around for

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a minute, right, I've known them for a while, just

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like because for what I have an extensive knowledge of

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jam bands that I guess pertain to food and or animals.

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we were talking with Peter Shapiro, and obviously Peter Shapiro

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goes all of these jam bands and is great at it,

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you know, having to just make sure Gooseberry but not

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not jam we can jam it were not Jampan, you know,

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just having the dichotomy there, you know, we have to

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start saying, like there's goose the jam band, there's a

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Geese and I'll turn to rock band that we know.

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From New York City, and then there's Gooseberry, and it's.

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Like there's one more that played that Louder than Life

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though Oh yeah, silly goose.

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Oh now now it's a it's a quadrant at this

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point where we fall on it.

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so they're basically like a punk band and they crashed

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one of the Wimmer festivals.

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It was incarceration won at Shawshank Prison.

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Okay, and they were playing like the old school thing

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that you did. They were playing in the parking out

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in the parking field, you know, they pulled up their

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trailer and Wimmer was in out there watching them.

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Wow. And they didn't they didn't know, they didn't know

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he was there, and he just watched them.

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Next they played on on a real stage, and they've

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been playing a bunch of Wimmer festivals ever since. So, yeah,

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you might get a lot of times bands like you.

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You'll play one and you'll play a.

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Bunch of them, you know, especially since you can go

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on both sides of the fence at the different festivals.

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Look, anytime, anytime he wants us back, as far as

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I'm concerned, we will be there. So if you if

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you got a word in with the with the boss man,

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we're definitely down.

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But I mean, I also say I.

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Saw Danny a couple of times in his backyard area,

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but more times I saw him.

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We're just walking around the festival, which I think is

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so cool that he is. He seemingly is just constantly

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on the move checking out the you know.

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He just wants to make Yeah, he just wants to

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make sure everything's running smoothly, everything's good forbody. Just like

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you said earlier, like it doesn't matter which band you are,

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you're getting treated like you're the headliner.

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be the case, but it really was such like a revelation.

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people is rarer than maybe it should be.

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But he had it in space and it made us

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feel comfortable.

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Frankly playing this gigantic festival where I certainly was kind

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of just you know, jittering and you know, freaking out

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as I am pretty much all the time anyway.

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As I want.

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I'm glad you bring that up, because it doesn't matter

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who you are. It's like say, I'm also a speaker,

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but yeah I'm on the radio, and you know, you

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get nervous every time until the mic turns on, and

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then you go into the zone once the mic turns on.

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It's so much easier once you're doing it right, Like

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the anticipation, the build up right beforehand for this festival,

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because everything is so neatly taken care of.

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It was more it's kind of just like, all right,

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how do I make sure I'm amped up and ready

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to go for a two pm set kind of thing.

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But like for a show that we're playing out on tour,

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there's so much logistical.

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Stuff that has to happen between a coordination of us

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and our team manager Asia, etc. Than with the venue,

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then with the opening bands and making sure we have

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merch set up, making sure we have you know, photography

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set like all these different pieces that kind of fall

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on us to make sure happening smoothly. Instead of just

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show up, get all your stuff situated, they had stage

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hands to help us move everything.

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Sound is great.

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You know that there's going to be a crowd, Like

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all of that is just kind of taking care of

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for you, and you just show up and you can go.

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I might as well just play right.

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And I say it all the time too, you know,

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like it's stressful being an artist when all those things

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go wrong. So it's kind of cool when you go

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to a festival like a Wimmer festival and basically you

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have no stress and that makes it a lot less

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nerve wracking.

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Absolutely, I mean everything was so like meticulously detailed too.

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I mean they had they had so screen in the

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bathrooms like nice.

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That's a crazy flex in my opinion, to just have

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that ready for people. So you know, it's amazing the

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small things you take away, Like we ran into a

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lot of cool artists we got to hang out with,

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like my morning jacket. But the thing that I have

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repeatedly told people about this festival is that they had

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sunscreen in the bathroom.

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And I don't know what that says about me or

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about the festival, but I think.

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It says you're a true artist. And I'll tell you why.

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One of my best friends was the founding I wanted

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to founding members and lead guitarist of Anthrax, And he

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always tells me when they were like touring really big,

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I wish instead of them asking me how I got

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and we got our band name, if they asked us

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what kind of skin condition we use on tour? You know, Oh,

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that's that's why he said. It's awesome And in hand

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with what you're saying with the sunscreen.

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That's incredible.

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Mean, maybe Anthrax and Gooseberry can do just a full

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hour on our skincare routines, right, I'd be happy to

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We've been trying to get La Roche Poise to sponsor

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us for years, so maybe this is what it takes,

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you know, to get there.

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But you yeah, that was a key detail for me,

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and right, yeah.

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And for all this and that's why, that's why when

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you said that, that's exactly where my head went to

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whether that's a conversation, you know, because like who thinks

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of musicians has given a shit about any skin products

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or sunscreen.

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But yeah, but you're humans, so over humans?

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Well okay, so here not to not to break out

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the pitchtick, but what what I tried to explain to

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some of these sunscreen companies was that not only are

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we humans, but who.

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Else, aside from say, like you know, cross country truck drivers,

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who is spending as much time in a car with

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windows that are open faced where sun is beating down

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on you.

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We played plenty of shows at like festivals or outside

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events or breweries wherever it might be sun everywhere.

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Right, you're just getting beaten down on.

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You're doing that for hours, Like we are a primary

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demographic that's being underserved and underutilized by.

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The great like especially like a place like Bourbon, and

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beyond that, sun was like, that was brutal.

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I lived in Florida, and I think that.

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end of June in Vermont and Burlington, Vermont.

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It was like as a beautiful day.

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We played it outside like a scenic little backdrop and

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the sun was just the whole time. We like, you know,

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we split it up into two sets, and halfway point

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I just had to run back to the truck, talk

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the way around and like get you know, some more

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to reapply. This is a core issue, you know. Of

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course everyone wants to talk about how you know, musicians

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will get paid as much as they used.

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To or streaming and AI is ruining a lot of

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it for us.

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But our platform will be first and foremost sunscreen for musicians.

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I think that is I love it's number one. Then

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then the AI streaming stuff.

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So it's funny like in the beginning this year, well

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this season, back in May, I was doing another wimmer

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festival Sonic Temple, and you know, I live in Florida.

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I'm a surfer. Yeah, you don't know, Ohio.

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I don't need sunscreen, you know, I'm thinking, That's what

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I'm thinking in my head. I never get burnt in Florida,

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and I got burnt at Sonic Temple because that sun

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is just beating down on you. You don't even know it's

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beating down on you, because you know, if you're playing

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or whatever, anything you're doing, it's like you're so immersed

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in that. It's not like you're laying in the sun

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and you're like, oh, maybe I only get out of

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the sun. You know, you realize until it's too late.

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Yeah, but you know, worst case, if you do get

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too badly March, you can always cool off with some

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skyline Chile.

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There you go.

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Yeah, Ohio is fun though. We love going to Ohio.

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We were just we were in Cleveland recently on this

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tour and that's always it's always a good time.

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Nice.

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Yeah, it shocked me, like, you know, I don't get

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burnt in Florida, but I got burned in Ohio in May.

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So Yes, that son is strong there too.

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So Yes, the musicians, wherever you play in the world,

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you need sunscreen.

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Yes, Yes, this is the PSA. I hope everybody needs

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our caution.

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There it is, And every festival promoter could learn a

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thing or two from Danny Wimmer for providing that.

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Sun Absolutely, I agree.

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So what else you got going on for the rest

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of the year, Maybe a begame of twenty twenty six

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that you want to let the listeners know about.

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Yeah, we are as I guess we record this.

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We are about to play our last show of this year.

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We're playing in Austin, Texas, and then from there we

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go into the recording studio.

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So the rest of this year and probably early next year,

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we're probably going to take a bit of a break.

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From shows and just focus on working.

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On the new record, where we've been working on a

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lot of these songs on the road and we've been

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touring pretty extensively since April of this year and playing

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over fifty plus sixty some odd shows and been able

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to work on a lot of like the new material

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through that test some stuff out, see a work, see

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what doesn't. And we've probably got like ten to fifteen

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songs or something like that that we're going to now

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put through the ringer in the studio and if all

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goes well and we don't hate everything that we've done

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and each other, hopefully come April of next year so

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we might have a first single to release, and the

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idea would be.

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Get back out on the road. We're hoping to get

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out to the West coast.

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This tour we went out to Colorado, that was kind

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of farthest west we've been as a band. We're hoping

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to do, you know, the West Coast tour from sort

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of like Seattle, Portland on down through California and also

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hopefully into Mexico because I know you got folks throughout

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Mexico that that dig our music. So yeah, I guess

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new record and more extensive touring to some new places.

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I think that's those are the goals for next year.

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And of course to play as many Danny Wimmer Presents festivals.

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