PipemanRadio Interviews J.P. Krom

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Man, Domber. This is the
pipe Man here on the Adventures of pipe

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And I'm here with our next guest who

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has some killer artistry and music music. So let's welcome to the show.

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JP Crumb. How are you?
I'm fine? What about you? I'm

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doing great because I get to,
you know, listen to all this cool

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new music. How could it be
bad? Right? Excellent? So tell

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us a little bit about you as
an artist. You know, for all

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the listeners don't know who you are, maybe you could kind of describe yourself

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as an artist to them the way
you see yourself. I am an asoloist

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musician. Nowadays I'm doing some kind
of gotic middle and it is based on

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esothetic things in astrology, specifically,
I'm composing based on that knowledge. What

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point of time in your life was
it that you felt that this was really

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where you had to go with your
life, where this became your passion?

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Since I was young, when I
was a teen teenager, I realized that

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it was it was my passion.
But in that age nobody knows really about

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the future and about choices. But
that's the time when I felt it was

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my passion, but it was a
product of the of my environment as a

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child. I think it was something
obvious that is going to happen in in

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in the adult life. Well,
that's great. You have a history in

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your family of artistry, and I
think music is artistry. Art is artistry,

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graphic designs artistry. I think it
all goes hand in hand. And

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you also have your own experiences with
graphic design as well. Correct. Yeah,

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I studied one year in another city
of Chile and the country that I

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lived that it was born. My
father was an artist. That that thing

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made me to to communicate those different
arts in one thing, I guess in

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this project. And you can see
it when you see the covers of my

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album my albums that they have a
really good designs that have they have symbols

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of what the lyrics are and what's
about all of the things that is this

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project esothetic things and a lot of
these things. Yeah, and say I

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love that because to me, album
and cover art is as important sometimes as

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the music. I think it finishes
the story, like you know, by

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having both the music and the art, that's the complete story of an album.

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Yeah, and it is difficult because
you you have to be I don't

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know if this world exists in English
current say it again, corrent, Corrent

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doesn't make it. It means that
the music and the and the art and

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the graphic art they have to be
in the same line. And it is

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not easy doing that because you have
to make something that you cannot see.

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You have to do it and do
it. You have to transform it into

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a seeing I think you can see, and it is not easy that translation.

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Maybe it is the world. Yeah, that sounds about right. Maybe

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convert is what you were looking for. So yeah, and I understand because

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I do graphic design as well.
And you know it definitely. It's funny

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because my personality for music and my
personality for graphic design or like two different

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worlds. But they do melt together, yeah, because they are part of

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you. And at the same time, I the video clips they have to

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be they have to be in the
same line as the music and as the

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the graphic art. And it is
not it is something like a self discovering

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doing that it is you're not going
to do that in the first video,

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in the first cover, something that
is in the same line with the music.

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It is something that it has to
be. It has to be major.

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So you you have to see what
you've done and and and see if

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it was in the same line.
It takes a lot of time and you

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have to love at the same time
the graphic art. If you don't,

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I think you're going to make I
really like, For example, I really

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like a Slayer, but I don't
I don't like those their covers of their

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albums because I don't. I don't
like them, but I do love their

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music. But I think those covers
maybe they don't like so much the graphic

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art. Maybe as a person that
studied or maybe that a person that had

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a father or mother that was an
artist. Yeah, you know, it's

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funny you mentioned Slayer because I absolutely
love Slayer And funny story. My best

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bro when we were like teenagers when
Slayer first came out, on one wall

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of his room, one of our
friends, who was an artist, was

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painting the Slayer Beast on his wall
from the original Show No Mercy album.

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So yeah, so it was funny
that you brought that up, but yeah,

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I mean, you know, it's
interesting too if you look through the

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Slayer catalogue, like there's there's not
necessarily always a consistency in the artwork either.

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Yeah, that's right. Do you
know that Maya is a telen person.

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Yeah I knew that. Did you
know that he originally wasn't even a

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metal head? Yeah? Yeah,
I'm remembering. I questioned that some journalists

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made to Tomaraya and she said,
what is the music do you like?

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And Tomaraya answered, I don't know, rock and roll bands something like that,

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and the journally said, but there
has they have nothing to do with

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the music you're playing, and Tom
said, I'm just playing the songs that

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Jeff i'm Carey composed. Yeah,
that's true, and it's amazing that one

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of the most well known voices in
metal it's not even a metal person.

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And then sorry, no, you
go ahead. I think that it is.

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So I listened to myself with a
go again, so I'm going to

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duce my headphones. It is interesting
when the music is going to to like

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that, because you have you add
something different in that chemistry and that I

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think that that thing makes the difference
in the result. So you have something

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new, and this thing that is
new, it is going to be something

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that is going to attract more people
that wants a new music. I totally

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agree with you because I see a
lot of times nowadays if you have bands

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that everybody in the band isn't the
same music, then there's nothing unique about

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that band. I think the better
bands nowadays are the ones that have multiple

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influences from different genres and they create
something unique, just like you're talking about.

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Yeah, but it's it is very
difficult. I think that you have

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to do that when you are very
young, because when you're young, you

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can go do those things, but
when you are old, it is very

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difficult because, for example, it's
layers, it's lays, it is not

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going to change, and Metallica is
not going to change, right, maya

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that it's not going to change,
so they change. They have to be

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in the teen eighties and maybe yeah, well, it's just like when Metallica

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started to change. About me and
my friends who were there from the very

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first show, we were like,
uh, posers, like your fans don't

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want to let your fans don't want
to let you change or evolve, and

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sometimes I think a musician, especially
as you get older, you need and

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more experience, you need to evolve
as a musician. Yeah. Yeah,

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And with the persons that listen music, it had been something that is very

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similar because when you're young, you
want to know more bands, when when

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you get old, you don't want
to listen new new bands. You just

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say the bands of nowadays they're not
really good as they were in the past.

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Maybe that's true, I don't know, but I think there there are

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always good songs that you can hear
from new bands. That's the way I

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think. I think so too,
I agree, And you know, I

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also want to talk about the fact
that you know, English is not your

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native language, and I'm always in
awe of artists like you that can,

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you know, write and sing English
songs when sometimes some of the artists you

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know, I talked to them,
they can barely speak English, but they

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can write and sing English songs,
and I always find that amazing. Do

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you find it's different when it comes
to a song and actually speak in the

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language with somebody. The last single
that I have that is called Ula Bludan.

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It is in Spanish, but the
rest of the songs of the new

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album that is going to release on
October are in English. About the languages

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Spanish and English, I think every
language has some things different. For example,

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I think English is more it is
a more cold language, and in

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Spanish it is more warmer. You
can say different things with the language,

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and your brain thinks in a different
way when you're speaking another language. And

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maybe you can say some things in
one language but in the other. No,

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maybe you can say you you love
a girl in English but not in

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the Spanish. I don't know.
If you want you understand what I means.

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Oh, I understand totally what you
mean, because like that's why I

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found is sometimes songs don't make sense
when they're in a different language, you

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know, even when it's going the
other way, Like there's you take somebody

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like Shakira, Okay, when she
does her Spanish songs, I'm sure they

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would not make sense in English.
But and in vice versa, the English

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songs probably don't make sense in Spanish. Yeah, I don't. I haven't

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listened carefully the songs of Tekia,
So I cannot so the way I so

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much about that, Yeah, the
kind of way I look as it's not

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that it doesn't make sense from a
point of view of the definition, but

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how the words flow together. Like
if you take a song and change its

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language, even though it's the same
words, you know, definition wise,

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the flow of those words doesn't have
that name sound as it would in whatever

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language the song was written in.
Yeah, I have an article that that

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he taught me English when I was
younger, and he said, it doesn't

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matter if the words you're writing has
no sense, because language is like that,

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it is something that is always changing. Maybe you can read something from

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the past, maybe from the one
thousand year, you are not going to

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understand anything because the language is always
changing. And the thing that is very

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important in Indian is what you feel
more than what you understand. But but

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anyway, I try to my lyrics
are that the people can understand, and

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they tried they have sense, but
I'm not really sure if they if they

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all of the songs do do that
because that is not my native language,

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right. And you know what I
do love though, is that you are

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classically trained, and there's most people
don't realize that metal music is a derivative

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of classical music, and so that's
why I think some of the best artists

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like yourself in the metal genre are
actually classically trained. Yeah. Yeah,

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I think the like power metal and
those styles are are based on that.

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Maybe other snow may as kaneal Corpse, I guess, but I think the

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roots from from metal that they do
have a lot from that. But but

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I think that all of the music
they have the the same root the occidental

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music. Yeah, because we have
the same root and the same tuning in

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the instruments. It is a heritage
from from that music. And the way

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we compose the songs. We a
song is as a structure of composing and

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that the structure comes from classical music, and that is structure it is in

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all of the styles. So you
can tell saying that that all of the

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songs that we hear on the radio
they have the same root that it's classical

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music because there is a structure.
Absolutely so. And I also like to

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say that I love that some of
your music has the basis of astrology in

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it because I just think it's it
kind of goes hand in hand and I

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think it's kind of cool. Thank
you. And I used to call this

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this music astro metal, but nowadays
I think it is just a kind of

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godic metal because I think astrology it
is too deep to understand really fast.

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And most of personal persons they think
that the your solar sign, it is

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the only thing that matters, and
it is hard to explain so they can

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understand. So astrology it is going
to be always in my music and sit

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out and all of the esthetic things. But if you ask nowadays and I

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say, this is godic metal based
on astrology, yeah, but before it

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was astro metal and people were asking
what is that? And I had to

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explain that, and they don't understand
because it is not easy to understand that

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there's a lot of no knowledge in
humanity, that it is hidden, hiden

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hidden headed, Yes, hidden,
it is hidden because it is easy to

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control a person that doesn't know so
much what the knowledge it isn't it isn't

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there? Then the ancient cultures they
have a lot of knowledge. But after

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the how do you say, renaissance? Yes, after the renascence, all

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of the things change to a more
concrete, maybe paradictma, but we never

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stop the thing that maybe science it
is another kind of religion because you have

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the dogmas of the science, because
you have the big bang. Nobody it

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is sure about that, but it's
a dogma because all of the most awful

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persons that they speak about science,
they begin from the thing that big man,

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it happened, and we don't really
know if if if it really happened

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or not. So it is a
documents as you can say, have you

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falkbut that yeah, well, you
know what's interesting about what you're saying is

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like you know, people that are
into science, they deem it as absolute

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fact, but it's only absolute fact
based on somebody coming up with something because

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like how to just like you said, we don't know what really happened,

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and it's and I find that science
changes, just like you know, one

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day Pluto was a planet, the
next day it wasn't a planet. Then

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it's a planet again. And so
then if science is exact fact, that

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wouldn't happen because it would be it's
a planet or it's not a planet.

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There would be no changing. And
do you know the reason that Pluto it

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is not a planet? You know, it's drawing a blank right now,

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but it has I think it has
something to do with the sun, but

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I can't remember right the second tell
us Pludo is ah a planet. I'm

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going to say a planet that it
travels out of the Solar System. So

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the definition of a planet one of
the definitions that I remember. I remember

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now that a planet it has to
be on the Solar air System. If

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it is not, it's not a
planet. And because of its size too,

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it is too small. So it
is a planet or not because of

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the definition of someone that says that
is a planet exactly, it can be

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anything you want in the end,
that's right, And that's the point there,

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Like scientific formulas are based on somebody's
definition. But do we know that

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that's the true definition? Matter what
it is, you know, and nothing

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is an exact science and nothing is
absolutely fact. Like you said, do

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we know the Big Bang theory happened? No, that's why it's a theory.

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You know, nobody was here during
that time to know it happened.

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And do we really know about the
compositions of the planet? Right? Are

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we really sure about that? Are
we really sure about what is true?

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What is not? M exactly?
I agree with you, you know,

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sorry, tell me no, I'm
just saying because again somebody decided here this

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is the formula, here, this
is the scientific fact. But what was

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it based on? Was based on
whatever they came up with. But maybe

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there were variables that weren't you know, taken into account. You know,

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I mean science can change based on
variables. Yeah, I do believe in

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the scientists method. That is the
way to say that, Yes, scientific

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method. Scientific method. I will
believe in that, and I think it

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is It is something that you have
to do when you when you need the

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explanation of of something. But the
roots of the science are based on things

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that we don't know as big bank
as the things of the universe. We

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don't really know if that thing is
true or not. The history it is

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written days ago and they came here
the how do you say this? I'm

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not going to do the translation from
Spanish, but I'm not really sure it

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is witness of God. No,
I think of the hell of that.

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Okay. Do you know when I'm
talking about these guys that are talking about

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God and they are part of a
church, right, Okay? And I

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asked them, do you know who
writes the history? And the man says,

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the men wrote the history, And
I said, no, the winner

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wrote the history. So you have
the history from the persons that one.

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But what about if the history was
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For example, what about if Hitler
was widen this. Yeah, yeah,

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Hitler, I don't. I don't
like Hitler, but it is interesting

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to know that he has another way
to think about science. Yeah. So,

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so it depends on the on the
winner, the thing that you're going

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to believe. I take it to
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something I came in my mind when
you're talking. It's like, my facts

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or image of Chile, as an
example, come from what I may have

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read or what I may know,
or it's one of the countries I haven't

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been to, So how do I
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Just like there's people that talk about
the United States and they think they know,

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but they know based on what they've
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it is perspective. It is the
person who's writing it. So if some

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it's just like when you have kids. Okay, if you were to write

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about your kid's childhood and your kids
wrote about their childhood, they would be

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two totally different facts, but both
people would think they were factual, but

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they were from different perspectives. So
I think that's what makes the difference.

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there are some things that we don't know

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about that just can't be explained,
like some of the things in astrology,

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like they can be factual even though
they can't be explained. It is with

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astrology, and you know that astrologer
astrologers they are never agree between along I

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don't know between or along them they
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with the things that that they say. If you analyze a person with the

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with the way that it is this
person, you are going to find things

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in common and you're going to to
know this this new knowledge that it was

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hidden. For example, all of
the Chilean's persons we have something in common.

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I don't know what is now,
but I think if I travel to

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Brazil or through or other countries,
I'm going to find something that is common

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to this person's And it happens the
same with astrology. If you were born

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in that day, then your son
your solar sign is it is Bigo.

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For example, You're going to have
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But it's not the only thing that
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And you're going to realize of that
if you see carefully and you're going to

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to watch it, and you're you're
going to know, oh, this is

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this is true, this is this
is this isn't interesting. And and Jung

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Kar Jung made the studies of that, and he come he can and say

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he put psychology and he put it
with astrology. And that's the reason it

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was where another kind an astrology.
And that's the reason astrology is war is

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more not known now, but it
is a knowledge that all of the humanity

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have from the ancients. Greece,
the Greeks were talking about astrology, the

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magest were talking and was at astrology, the Sumerians were talking about astrology.

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If you see all of the civilizations, we're talking about that. And sometimes

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in the in the years after n
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Why because they cut out of this
knowledge so that you can think different and

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you know less than before, and
they control you more than before. I

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think the powerful persons they're always thinking
what is the way to control more persons?

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That's I agree with the a million
percent because I even look at this

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maybe an unpopular opinion, but I'm
a Jew and I look at sometimes the

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New Testament and what people believe in
the New Testament, and it's exactly different

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than the Old Testament. And so
I look at people, I'm like,

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well, why is it saying the
Old Testament that there's darkness and then there's

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debt and day? And you guys
say there's day, then there's darkness.

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How come the Sabbaths on Saturday for
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Like somebody's got to be wrong,
you know. And it doesn't even

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mean the Jews are right either.
It's I think it's again going back to

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man writing these things and deciding what
things should be. It happens two things

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that makes me think right now.
The first one is about how do you

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talk about the names of the days. Yeah, Sunday the day of the

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sun, Saturday the day of Saturn, Monday the day of the moon.

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Have you thought of that? And
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Whost and Whoeest it is Jupiter.
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Bernest it is related with Venus.
So if you see, if you

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look, there are a lot of
things that are based on this thing.

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And the second thing. It is
the same thing that I was telling to

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this person that came the other day, that maybe I have a truth and

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maybe you have another truth, and
maybe they are both right. Maybe the

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only the only problem it is that
I want to impose. Sorry, does

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that world exists? Impost Yes,
absolutely, I'm just reinlating. I don't

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know in the correct way because the
world in Spanish is impone and I thought,

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now that was the right word.
Okay, clans. The problem it

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is to impose your beliefs to other
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very intimate intimate intimates No, I
don't know, no intimate, yeah,

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intimate thing. Everyone has their truth. So the problem is when I say

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I have the truth. But because
when you say I have the truth,

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you're saying that the other person is
wrong. So that's the problems of the

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religion. I ask to this person
do you know the meaning of religion?

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And he said no, I don't
know, and and I answered, it

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means really hard and in Spanish,
it's a world in Spanish, and I

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don't know the translation from English,
but it's something that you reunite. So

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religions are made for reunite persons.
But in the actis they are separating persons

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speak God, they impose their own
truth. I don't know how can different

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religions can be in the same place. We have a thing here until that

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we celebrate, and we have the
officials religions in the same place. And

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I asked to my ask to myself, how they can be together if they

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are treating treating theirselves as a liars
because they are wrong, because they have

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the truth of all of the things
right, maybe that's a problem. I'm

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not going to criticize anyone, anyone
that believes in anything that is his or

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her own truth. But let's have
problems. That's why in Judaism, we're

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not taught to believe anything. We're
taught to study Torah. We're not We're

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taught to educate ourselves and learn and
form our own opinion. We're not taught

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to believe anything. You know,
And then I look at things like the

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lunar calendar, which is what the
Jewish calendar is. The lunar calendar makes

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total sense. The Gregorian calendar that
we use today in society makes zero sense.

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Yeah, that's right, that's right. Because these calendars are imposed on

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political political political things do you know
the names of the months, because do

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you know what July has that name? Why is that because Julius I'm not

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produce Julius are yeah? And August
do you know the reason of the name

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of that month that's probably a similar
thing is yeah. And so in the

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beginning, the months they well called
as their For example, October was the

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eighteenth months because it comes from eight
in the spanischo in, November from nine

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that is webbing is spunished, November
from eleven that is onest. So all

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of the months are are were based
on the order that they have, but

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some months were changed because of these
guys that were powerful. So in the

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end you have a calendar that is
made from made by persons that have power.

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Bird they are not really well as
the natural cycles we have. As

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you say, the lunar calendar.
Well, you know what's interesting. You

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know what's interesting? Are you're ready
for this? Like the lunar calendar,

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which is what we and the Jews
go by every month, is twenty eight

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days because that's the lunar cycle.
What is the menstrual cycle of a woman?

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Twenty eight days? So that's why
even that to me, that makes

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more sense to me. That's more
scientific if you ask me, you know.

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And the fact that you're going by
the moon, you're basing the calendar

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on the moon, just makes more
sense to me too. And have you

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read about Kabala? Yes, yes, that's what I totally believe it.

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You know what's interesting about the cabalas
my when I first read it, I

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was like, oh my God,
this is like all of my beliefs in

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one So it was like it had
the Judaic beliefs in there, but then

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it had other beliefs that were things
that sometimes Jews thought were like not good

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beliefs, like psychic powers and astrology
and the power of your mind and stuff

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like that. And to me,
the Cabala of all the books makes the

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most sense. It is very interesting. Our person from my colleague, he

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lets me a book of Kabala,
and I was willing it and in some

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parts that is it made a mark
on my mine. I guess that it

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says Satan it is not against the
world, against God, Satan it is

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working for God. Right, That
was well, I it is it has

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more sense saying that Satan it is
part of the plan of God. That's

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saying that Satan it is against God, because if you say it God,

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it is all all powerful. How
can Satan exists? Yeah, but if

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you say saving words force for the
for God, it has more sense.

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It has a lot of sense in
that perspective. That's right. And I

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also find case a friend of mine, she owns a botanica, And I

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find that a lot of stuff in
Kabbala is what people believe. It all

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goes hand in hand together instead of
what most religions are doing, which is

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separating each everybody from each other.
Yeah, I think it is. It

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is very interesting. A lot of
the things that you find there as other

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things. That is, for example, that it said God doesn't exist because

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God it is beyond existence. Wow. There, it is very interesting within

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those things, it is. And
you know, that's what I'm all about,

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just educate myself on all kinds of
areas and then being able to formulate

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opinion. I think a lot of
times religions nowadays they just want to learn

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their belief and I think the only
way to really even confirm your belief is

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to learn other people's beliefs and know
all sides of the story. Yeah,

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that's right. I was saying the
same thing the other day. To these

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same guys. I was telling him, how do you know the whole perspective

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of this if you don't know about
what the things the other religion says yeah,

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exactly. So I asked them,
do you know about Sumerian person's civilization?

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Do you know about what is?
For example? What do you know

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the meaning of Bible? The world
of Bible? Do you know where Bible

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comes? Have you waden other histories
that are older than the things that Bible

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said? And they say they don't
know, No, they don't. They

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just go by what people tell them
and that's what they believe. And they

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invited me to a meeting, and
I said, I invite it. I

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invite to you to think about the
things we were talking and they say bye.

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It was it was funny, but
yeah, it is inter recent.

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You were saying that the Jewish persons, they don't all of the persons that

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they have this religion follow the Kabala. So are persons that are you that

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they believe in Cabada and the others
know? Yeah? So in Jewish,

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in jewishm we believe there's four and
there's four parts of it. There's Kabbala,

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which is Jewish mysticism. There's the
Torah, which is the Word of

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God. There's the Old Testament,
which are the Bible stories, and there's

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the Talmud, which are the rebbies
educating people. And basically, we have

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a word in Hebrew called mid rush, and what midrash means is a fable.

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So Jews believe that these Bible stories
are not just fact, they're exactly

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what they are, their stories to
try explain what happened. So unlike where

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the Christians take the New Testament and
Scripture and say that's the fact of what

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happened, Jews don't believe that because
we believe we weren't here. We don't

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know what the absolute fact is and
we can't possibly understand some of it,

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you know, So we tell these
stories that make it easier for us to

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understand the whole concept. And to
me, that makes more sense if it's

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going to be a story, if
it's going to be a fable to kind

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of explain it. That makes more
sense in somebody saying this is absolutely what

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happened, when nobody on the face
of the earth was there to know what

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absolutely happened. Yeah, it makes
a lot of sense. And the book

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and reading it says the same says
the author of that book. They tell

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that this history is these persons,
they are a way to explain something that

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is common and human, the humans. So it has more sense that what

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Catholics says. They say that it
was a fact, as you say,

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because I think all of the religions
and all of the beliefs, they have

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a lot of things of common.
Maybe the problem it is saying that it

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is a fact. Maybe it is
not a fact because we were not there

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and the history was written by by
the winners. But if you find these

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things in common, you are going
to see something that is unique in mankind.

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So when you're going to learn about
the human being with these things,

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and you're going to understand than the
human brains, the only the only thing

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that needs it is education. So
would you if you are very if a

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person has not education, that it
can be something very similar as the as

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the as the book said. I
am remember I remember remembering that in this

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book they are they call vegetal I'm
not sure of the translation vegetal person and

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the animal person. Have you read
about that? No, Okay, I'm

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to check into that. It says
that a vegetal person. It is that

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a person that it is just in
there following things that are imposed to this

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person and not going to the jungle
to fight for How can I say,

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I'm not not want to, I
don't want to make a mistake with with

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this this thing. Maybe it is
maybe it can be a bit different.

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But the thing that I'm that I
think it was trying to say it was

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that the vegetal person, that is
it is a person. For example,

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in the work. If you have
a work and you go out of the

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days doing the same thing, and
you work for others and you're not going

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to educating yourself, you're maybe being
a vegetal being. But if you're going

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to do something that is yours and
you go to this world and fight for

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it and not if you're not sure
if you're going to have money, as

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the vegetal person is going to have
in this regular job, you're going to

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fight for your life. I'm not
sure if I'm me and clear, but

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maybe you understand what I'm trying to
say. It is very abstract the concept

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and I have the words were in
Spanish. Oh no, I got I

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got got it completely And see I
see that's why I love about this.

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I think people should educate themselves and
be able to form and educate opinion.

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And again it's an opinion because do
we really know, do we know who's

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right, who's not right, That
somebody have to be right, that somebody

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not have to be right. Maybe
everybody is right in pits and pieces.

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So I think it's a great concept
that we should all just get along even

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with our differences. Yeah, but
at this at the same time, if

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some person comes with no education,
that that brain it is not. It

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is as a plant, you have
to give water to that plant. You

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have given earth, health, healthy
earth, so that plant can grow.

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Same and it Happensn't the same with
the with a brain of a person.

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If you don't throw its water and
it has if it has not saying earth

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on it, it is going to
be something very similar to begital person.

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It is absolutely But I think education
is everything, and I think human human

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brain and a human being is a
very powerful How can I say, and

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the world in Spanish is empty?
It is something like we have a lot

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of power, a lot of things, but we don't really know that they

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are in there. Maybe all of
the things are maybe all of the persons

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are spiritual, spiritual beings, and
maybe we all have faith in something.

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Maybe there are not attaations in work, because all of the persons, all

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of the person, if they are
going to know they're going to die or

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a very close person is going to
die, they're going to believe in something.

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And maybe they don't know, they
don't realize they're living in something,

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but they have to do because we
don't know the final thing about this life.

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And the other way that we have
is to believe in something in that

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way we have, and we need
education and know the powers of the mind

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that we are all connected, and
the power of the sucks and maybe all

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the religions they say the same thing
that maybe does this world is just a

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world that we're passing through to another
world. Absolutely, And that's also to

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bring us back to your music.
That's also why I am always love when

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a musician like yourself, it's classically
trained, because that's education. I'm begging

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to education, you know, And
so I agree with you, and I

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think better music comes from more educated
people because it's easy to write a song,

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it's easier to understand the formation of
the music and the sound and all

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that when you're educated on it.
And that's why I think sometimes artists get

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better as time goes on because they
become more educated in their craft. And

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so let's tell everybody how they connect
you on socials and on the web and

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every day and check out your new
music and everything having to do with with

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your art that they can check out. Sure, thank you. You can

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find me as JP Chrome is spelled
JP key r O M and Spotify it

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is the same thing. And you
have to add the dost after the J

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and after the the B and you
have you. You can find me in

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all of the platforms digital platforms,
you two, Spotify, Deezer, Amazon,

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all of those things. The Facebook, the found page of Facebook.

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It is hi hike it so I
can. I cannot use it nowadays,

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but if you can want to see
you you can. And I can tell

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you that I have a single Day
and it was released so days. I'm

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also ago. I guess October and
October is going to be another album,

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another EP, another epis so you
can listen it and you can find all

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of the things maybe that we were
talking about with the symbols that this new

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cover has and you can find it
in the music that you listen to if

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you listen very carefully. Absolutely,
and I love your music. Everybody's got

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to check it out. It's been
a pleasure having an in depth conversation that

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was full of intelligence and music,
but more than music, and because I

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think it all goes together. And
so thank you for bringing on us s

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R. And thanks for being on
the Adventures of pipe Man. Thank you

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very much for the conversation. If
you come to Chill some day, I

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can invite you. I'll be your
so okay and continue our conversation here.

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Thank you for listening to the Adventures
of Pipe Man. I'm w for CUI Radio.