Sept. 30, 2025

PipemanRadio Interviews Remember Serenity About Autumn

PipemanRadio Interviews Remember Serenity About Autumn
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Remember Serenity are an acoustic rock duo from Southend-on-Sea, England formed in 2019 creating heartfelt original music with soul & sincerity. Featuring Den Owen on vocals and Wayne Stanez on guitar, Remember Serenity blend stripped-back instrumentation with powerful, introspective lyrics. The sound captures raw emotion and quiet strength, offering listeners an intimate journey through themes of love, loss and resilience.

We talk about their musical and friendship journey and the 4 EP's that are four seasons.  The newest one is Autumn.

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Hi, you love them too, censure.

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Wow for you your.

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You're the best in.

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The reason I still me.

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This is the pipe Man here on the Adventures Pipe

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Man W four c Y Radio, and I'm here with

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our next guest across the Pond, who not only are

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great artists, but one of them is a friend of

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mine and the guy in the purple is not. So

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let's welcome to the show. Remember Serenity. I don't know

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if I remember Serenity by way, because I just came

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from louder in life.

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Not quite not quite the same thing.

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But we frequently get misnamed on things, and I think,

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remember Sobriety has been my favorite.

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Oh yeah, I could see. I could see that. Maybe

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you should form another band and call it Remember Sobriety,

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and then and then and then maybe they'll think your

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name is remember Serenity. Maybe I don't remember Sobriety either,

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but that's okay now, Actually I do. I know Wayne doesn't.

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And I can't believe I forgot to put my signature

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for your See, I fucked up for my that's my

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signature right there.

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The backdrop as well.

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Yeah, there you go. See. I was so busy making

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the backdrop that I forgot that I had to put

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on the sunglasses because I do all my interviews in sunglasses,

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and with the sunglasses it's hard to read anything. So

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you know that I'm not using a script or or

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notes or anything.

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You know, I've got the wrong glasses on to be

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able to read anything.

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So well, the funny thing is is, uh, I have

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LASAC and I have mono vision, but now I had

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a sty last year and it's affected my reading vision.

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Sometimes it's not even all the time. Sometimes I can

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read out without the reading glasses, other times I need them.

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It's weird, but you know it must be. I think

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it's your music. It's so good that it just blurred

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my vision.

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Might be it could be. It could be that to

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sleep in your eyes, possibly exactly.

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It makes me very serene. It is usually what I

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can't see too, That's why I'm never serene. But it

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all seriousness. Man, your music is badass.

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Thank you, thank you very much.

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So how does partnership come about?

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We've been friends for thirty years.

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Oh, I'm so sorry for you.

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We weirdly, we actually initially met because a mutual friend

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of ours knew that Wayne was looking for a singer.

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For you know, band way way back, and I thought

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it was a chat up line and told him I

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wasn't interested, So I didn't sing for him thirty years

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ago and it took what twenty seven.

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Years or something to finally nice.

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Yeah, i'd like to say here, so obviously we've got this.

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We have got a lot of a bond obviously from

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thirty year friendships. So it's very easy to do this,

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like when you know, sometimes you're in bands and there's

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they're very much different, different difference of opinion with this

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between you know, the bass and singer or the guitarist

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and drum or whatever, but.

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With just the two makes it easier.

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Yeah, and the fact that we're very very like minded,

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so it kind of works well. So I mean with Teva,

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for example, it was a song called Tever which I

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we we d entered a songwriting competition and we were

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given this one line. And I was then heading to America.

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I think I think it was possibly one of the

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times I went to see Laurie, but I was heading

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to America. So I was sitting at the airport and

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I thought, well, when I get back, we've literally got

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four days to have four or five days to have

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this song ready for this stim position, so probably should

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start doing something. So I was siting at the airport

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lounge and I quickly wrote some lyrics and sort of

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said it to Den. Then got on the plane blah

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blah blah when I landed, and when I landed in

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New Orleans, that then set me a message which basically

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had the second verse and the rest of the chorus.

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So we kind of wrote wrote the song twoferent so

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from England sort of thing. But but when we got back,

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literally I just picked up the guitar and something comes

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straight out and it was just that was it was

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really that that song was just like the fastest I

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think it just it just comes to very well. But

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that but that was again, the lyrics are about our friendships.

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So we were given the line two birds of a feather,

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and obviously you're given that line you've been best friends

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for thirty years. It's pretty The lyrics come quite simply.

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You know, you have got one line in it and

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it's kind of worked. So it was it was something

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that we could relate to and that that kind of

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inspired us to write quicker, didn't it.

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Yeah, we've definitely been more prolific since then.

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Yeah, up to that point we were very slow with

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writing new songs. But now we're yeah, kind of knocking

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them out quite quickly.

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So I love it. And I you know, at first,

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when you were saying you met, I thought she was

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going to say, you guys man on ship Rocked down.

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I was going to say, I'm going to tell Laurie

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that it's a pattern now, But no.

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Ship rocked back then. I was on ship Rocked in

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twenty three. So nice with Wayne, we were already friends obviously.

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Well, there's always better to be friends if you're going

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to be in a you know, a music project, because

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otherwise it could be hell. Like I see bands that

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you can tell they don't like each other, and it's like, wow,

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that would really suck because you can't escape them. It's

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not like a job where you could go home. You know,

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you're stuck with this person like all the time.

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The family ones I think are probably the worst for that.

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Actually, when you get the sort of sibling rivalry and

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and that kind of thing, I think.

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That are you talking about Oasis.

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On the list obviously, but yeah, I mean even or

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even Abba they all fell out, they were all married,

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and Hearts have recently fallen out as well.

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Weetwood Mac Yeah, say when when? Because then's actually the

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second singer of Remember And when I was looking for

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a new singer and my girlfriend at the time she

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sort of said, well, what about then, And I was like,

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I'm not sure. Yeah, because obviously good friends for so long,

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and then when you add that element of being in

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a band together, you get you get the different disagreements,

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and I thought, you know, we don't want to affect

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our sort of our friendship sort of thing. So we

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sort of said from this, if we start arguing about

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band stuff, then friendship comes first. Friendships friendships first.

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But that's a good rule for three and a half.

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Years in or since since you joined and there and

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we're still good. Yeah, well for that as much as

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we normally don't know myself, we'll have one on our

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list story well.

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And it's funny because you were saying before about like

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having two people. Two people in the band can either

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be really good in that scenario or really bad, Like

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you know, because at least if you have like four

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or five people in the band, there's buffers, there's people

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that like there's more of a I would say can

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be more of a democrat, but when you have two people,

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it's like it's either hard, yes or hard.

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Now Weirdly with.

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That though, obviously when I first first joined it was

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very much it was Wayne's band. I wasn't even sure

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if I was going to be sort of the permanent

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singer or if it was just a stepping stone until

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Baying found somebody else. And I'm not sure if that's

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not true or not actually, but it's it's still very much.

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If there is anything that a decision kind of needs

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to be made, I still refer to Wayne, really, I

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still sort of see it as he's his band, He's

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the one, he's the boss.

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Yeah, I mean a lot, a lot of it, as

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well as my obviously extra experience of being in bands.

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Obviously I've been doing band since was fifteen, whereas obviously

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this is really your first band. I suppose it's an

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apart from Gecko, it wasn't I hope does that really count?

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Though you can remember the name, well, yeah, I mean

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from stuff I did not younger, But yeah, I shall

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prop a band and stuff.

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So I mean we generally agree on those things. I

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don't mean musically, we've got very similar music tastes like

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quite varied as well, which is obviously helpful because you know,

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if you get someone who's I like folk and someone

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who likes I like metal, and you kind of to

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have clashes. But we both like those both of those genres,

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so it kind of works. It's like folk with a

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tinge of a rock, I guess is what we're actually doing,

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or rock with a tinge of folk, which way you

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look at it, one one or the other.

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Yeah, And she's going to be an angel because you're

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very picky, so she's going to be an angel to

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put up with your taste. Yeah, but quite picky musically.

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That's where you guys work together because that is a

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commonality that brings you together. Because if you have one

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person that really isn't picky, doesn't care, and some made it,

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I think that's a clash, big.

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Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Yeah, so that music tastes so far.

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I mean, we're actually genuinely friends because of music. You know,

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we initially met very briefly, you know, it's like because

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he was looking for a singer, and then we met

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again at a nightclub and we were both in a

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foul mood. Don't remember why, but we were both in

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a foul mood and we got chatting because we were

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the only two people sort of sitting.

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Away from everybody else.

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And Wayne was talking about tattoos and I was saying,

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as soon as I turned eighteen, I want to get

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my first tattoo, and he said, what do you want

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to get?

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And I want to get my favorite band logo? And

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he went, oh, who are there?

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And went nobody's ever heard of them, nobody knows them,

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nobody knows them. And then eventually I said, oh, it's

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a band called Queen Drike and he literally lifted up

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his sleeve to the only tattoo he had back then,

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a Queen Drike tattoo.

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Wow, I have still learning at once. I it's kind

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of like, what a big work in progress.

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Wow. And so then nobody really knew in the UK

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because the minute Queen's Reike came out, we all knew

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about but we thought it was Iron Maiden. We thought

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it was Iron Maiden that first when it came When

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it came out, we're like, oh, that's a new some

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new Iron Man and then we're like, oh, no, it's not,

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because it did the first album did sound a lot

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like Bruce.

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Yeah, you know that the highest stuff that you did.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, Empire promised well some actually my favorite albums.

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Yeah see, I was introduced to it when Queen and

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the Reich came out and that song sounded like Maiden.

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Yeah, I quite right, But that is kind of wild

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because how often in the world are you going to

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find somebody else with the same band tattoo on, you know,

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like especially a bad like Queen's Reike. I don't think

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a lot of people have that tattoo, like I could

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see if it was made in freeze. But to me,

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that's that shows your your connection right from the get go.

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Yeah, actually might when I find because you're not allowed

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to get tattooed here until you're eighteen.

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You're not allowed to be in nightclubs either, but my.

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So when I finally turned eighteen, which would have been

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probably about six months after that, I think something like that.

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It was actually Wayne's parents that bought me my my

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Queen direct tattoo as my eighteenth birthday present.

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Wow, that's pretty cool.

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Yeah, it's not in a place I can.

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Show you, so I'm not Oh come on now, So.

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It's Yeah, it's not really. Yeah, it's difficult to get.

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To now you have Now you guys got both get

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tattoo that says remember sent a serenity.

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Maybe maybe the tree, the tree.

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Yeah, I don't have writing on me, so it'd have

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to be the tree.

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The tree would be kind of cool. That would be cool.

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So as well, obviously you both have interest in folk,

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you both have interest in metal. What makes you pick

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focus the one that you focus on for your music?

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It's obviously just I mean the main When I first

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started rumors you back in twenty nineteen, I was really

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really into a band called the Civil Wars, and I

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imagine you heard them. I heard Civil Wars and I

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was just blown away by just the just how stripped

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back it was. It was just one guitar, a male

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and a female vocal, lovely harmonies, and I thought, I

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want to do something like that. I absolutely want to

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do that, but I kind of wanted to do it

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with obviously my rock influences as part of it. So

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when I first formed a band, when I first did

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it and I had my original singer, it was original

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originally a working title for it was Civil Coil because

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it was kind of a cross between Civil Wars and

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Lacuna Coil.

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Oh yeah, there you go.

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It was kind of the plan. It doesn't really sound

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anything like Lacuna Coil now, but initially that was kind

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of the the kind of the idea. Twigger doesn't really

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sound that much like the Civil Wars apart from harmony

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sort of thing, and obviously not as good harmony as

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Civil Wars, but that was the that was the kind

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of the premise of it. So it was more a

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case of doing something really stripped back, and that kind

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of leads it more towards the folk side than the

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rock side. But you can definitely hear the rock influences

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in the in the some of the guitar playing sort

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of thing, because there's a couple of songs the Neuer

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Ones as well.

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Yeah, oh yeah, you could definitely tell. But it is

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I think the name you have is perfect because I

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think the music, the harmonies really does create surroundy, which

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is something I think the whole world needs right now.

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Thanks. Yeah, that's really cool.

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Thank you.

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M Yeah, because you know, I have this idea too

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of how to solve all the world's problems. You guys

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could play at it too.

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Excellent. Yeah, it's a.

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Music festival that the whole world is required to attend

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because you know, listen, music is the great unifier. It's

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also the best therapy there is. And I think instead

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of all the other stuff that's going on, we could

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just work it all out at a music festival, because

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when you go to a music festival, you know, generally

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nobody's an outsider and nobody's fighting. We're all just loving

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each other from all walks of life. Yeah, yeah, and

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see that. I think that's what your music also represents. Like,

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I think it represents something that could unify us together

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and and uh create the serenity that this world.

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Needs exactly.

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If only you had a good photographer that you knew that. So,

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tell us about this new music compared to the evil

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What was the evolution to get to this new EP?

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Right, Okay, that's a good one. We basically we obviously

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when we first started recording and the idea of recording,

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we had seven songs, I think, and then I had

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the idea of let's uh, I mean we could try

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and record ourselves at home, and then it was a

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case of every time we would get to a certain stage,

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we then stop or yeah, something would distract us or so,

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so we never really finished it. Then we met this

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guy who had his studio in his garden. It's only

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he was sixteen. All yeah, So the guy produced all

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four of our EPs.

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Is a sixteen year old producer.

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Just turned seventeen.

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Yeah, that's amazing.

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Tetro studios in in Raylei and England. But Moss is

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an absolute legend. So we basically we kind of heard

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that he had a studio, So I asked him, can

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you send us a recording of something you've done that's

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similar sort of stuff to us? And I heard it

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and I thought, well, that's better than I'm going to

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do in yeah, the next year if I get round

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to it. You know. So I thought, do you know

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how much it meant? More so, how much for a

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couple of days in the studio? And he gave us

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such a good price. We're like, yeah, no, brain, I

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will do that. If it comes out rubbish, then we

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haven't lost a lot of money. Right, it come out

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the first ap winter, we really were She's like, yeah,

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this is this is great, you know. So we obviously

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booked him for spring, then summer, then autumn. Yeah, and

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but yeah, So so the writing process, which was the

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question one, So what is the right process when?

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Like I said, when when when I joined, obviously being

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the second singer, Wayne already had a few songs sort

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of finished basically, so I listened to the other singer

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singing and I just kind of copied what was there.

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And then as we wrote new songs, they became very

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much our songs. And then as I became more comfortable

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as being part of the band, I actually started writing

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some lyrics as well. So it's become very much. It

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was very much just Wayne doing it all, and now

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it's become much more we sort of do it all together,

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and I think both of us have definitely improved with

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sort of songwriting and that kind of thing as we've

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got a little bit more comfortable with it and that

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kind of thing.

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It's definitely better to do it together, I think too,

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because people everybody has something to add to it, you know,

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and bring something to the table that maybe you don't

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think of and you know, or just a different viewpoint,

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because there's so many viewpoints in the world. I think

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the more viewpoints you have of the music you create,

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the more likely you're gonna have a bigger tribe following you.

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Yeah, the viewpoint is quite interesting actually, I mean especially

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on a song called Circles that Wayne wrote, and it's

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a it's a song about friendship, and he wrote it

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about you know, like your little circle of friends and

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how blessed he feels or whatever to have these few

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people he can absolutely rely on. Have you know great

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these you know, half a dozen people are I read

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it and I sing it as how awful is it

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that you can only rely on a few people and

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everyone else read it?

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So I just I'm the negative one.

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It just absolutely I see that as you know, completely

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the other way around to how Wayne actually wrote that.

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And see I thought circle would be about marsh pits.

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We did when we actually start geting. Lastly, you know,

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like some people near to the front when we're playing,

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we'd probably say we want to see, right, have a

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circle pit out of one of the gigs would be

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absolutely incredible.

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You know what though, I was just doing a festival

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Bourbon Beyond and Fish was playing, Yeah, and I saw

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the kai of circle pit you guys can have because

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I was like I was sitting there and then in the

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beginning I was like telling my friends I'm like, oh,

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I want to start a marsh pit. We were like,

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oh no, no, do that, blah blah blah. And I'm

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like a couple hours in when people were peeking on

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whatever they were peeking on, it looked like a mash

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pit where nobody touched each other. It really did. Like

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I was like observing these people of like and then

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while you're talking, I'm thinking, that would be the perfect

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mash pit for your live show. It's like you take

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the deadhead fish head type of dancing and no touching,

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and there's your pit. And it's very serene, you know,

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because it was like it's like slow motion wash pit.

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Most of most people that come to see you can

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already do the slow motion version.

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Right, So see, there you go. It's perfect. And so

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how do people get this album EP? How do they

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check you guys out? How they are? Where do they

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next to you? Where do we create this circle of

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your now musical friends.

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If you just got a link tree, remember Serenity is

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obviously the best best place because all links to everywhere

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where we're on. He's on there, so it's obviously a

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link to our YouTube channel and link to our Spotify,

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our Facebook, Instagram, Twitch, Twitch, which we're so we're going

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on live now Twitch once a week at least that's

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the plan. There's also a link to our shop, yes,

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our band camp shop on there on there because we're

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still we stuck with the original idea of doing classic

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CDs for so so for people to tell us all

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the time, I haven't actually got CD player.

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Okay, it's all on Spotify and everything, so yes.

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Yeah, but they have to buy the CD if they

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want to listen to my show aim more though.

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The CD has always better obviously. Yeah, we sell a CD,

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and we actually obviously cost money to produce the CDs,

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to record the CDs, to actually get the CDs done. Yeah,

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obviously we've worked out if we actually sell all the

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CDs we buy, we might just break even. But you're

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obviously never going to sell all the CDs buy you

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give away the odd few here and there.

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I was going to say, if you sell all the

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CDs next time, I mean you're in the US, you

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could buy a couple of tacos at Taco Bell.

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Yeah. Well, if someone goes on and streams all fifty

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five minutes about four aps on Spotify, we get about

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seven pence which is about what ten ten cents, So

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so it's yeah, spot Spotify, and that's that's if they

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don't find a reason to say, oh that that's stream there,

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that one doesn't count because it was a three forty

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seven in the afternoons, right right. But uh, but last

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how I mean, really really stay wouldn't we We never

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started doing this to make you know, to become you know, millionaires,

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famous to all the world. I mean, it'd be nice,

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but we're like old, we're old and like so you know,

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on the down downward part of the hill now. But

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like I said, we do it because we love doing it.

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We do it because we like telling the stories that

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we're telling. Obviously a lot all of our songs have

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got some relevant so we don't write a song that's yeah,

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just are there's some words that are catchy, you know,

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sweet charaime, bah bah bah kind of rubbish.

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It's his favorite song, were.

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Bom Bomb.

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But we all our songs have got a story to tell.

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That was very much inspired by Bad Flower. When I

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saw them on ship Rocks in twenty nineteen, I think

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literally you saw them and it was just like that. Yeah,

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there's a couple of their songs were amazing, and then

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I saw them and they were incredible. So I went

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back and revisited their first album and like listening to

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reading the lyrics, and then lyrics then become really important

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because they're yeah, just they're really such strong lyrics. Just

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Josh catch.

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I love Josh, He's the cause to but like what

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I Love Too is one of the festivals they played,

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he had larryn Jaynas so he just had the crowd

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sing all the show. It was the coolest show where

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it was a ballsy move because you know you're going

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to get hate sometimes, but man, I thought it was

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the coolest one term lifetime show ever to be fair to.

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Do that rather than just cancel. That's that's that's.

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Some of the stupid excuses I've heard for bands canceling.

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Yeah, no doubt to me, that's a professional. The show

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must go on.

459
00:24:40.759 --> 00:24:42.680
A bad fel fan, he's going to prefer to be that.

460
00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:46.039
Like then. I remember I saw seble Tour actually once.

461
00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:49.039
This was literally just after they sacked Max, because I

462
00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:51.799
saw him. I saw him with Max at Brixton, which

463
00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:53.519
is the last gig he did with them, and then

464
00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:56.839
they sacked him and they were playing Donnington, which wasn't

465
00:24:56.920 --> 00:24:59.960
before it was download and uh yeah literally based on

466
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:01.519
play you didn't even like to just sack that singer.

467
00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:05.559
But they had like Evan and Billy from Biohazard, and

468
00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:07.480
I think Jonithan Davis did a song with him, and

469
00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:09.359
I just had other people who were on the bill.

470
00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:12.400
Burton Seabells did a song and it was just like

471
00:25:12.640 --> 00:25:15.200
Sebutura with guest singers and it was that was that

472
00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:15.880
was amazing.

473
00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:17.400
It was yeah, that's pretty cool.

474
00:25:17.559 --> 00:25:20.640
Yeah, and I imagine that being a gig. Josh is

475
00:25:20.680 --> 00:25:22.839
there playing playing the guitar, so it's not like he

476
00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:25.440
wasn't there, right, so he was there and it was

477
00:25:25.480 --> 00:25:27.880
just yeah, I mentioned that is that was a special gig.

478
00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:32.000
It was. And then like right after Covid my third show,

479
00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:35.319
I had the cover since you mentioned Jonathan Davis was

480
00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:40.119
corn and Jonathan Davis had COVID and sat in the

481
00:25:40.240 --> 00:25:44.279
throne like Oars he did and imagined him just sitting down,

482
00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:50.880
but he and he performed with Covid sitting in a throne. Wow,

483
00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:56.000
Like that's dedication right there. You know, they are one of.

484
00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:58.559
The bands that I have missed thanks to a terrible

485
00:25:58.599 --> 00:26:01.920
excuse though, So yeah, they were meant to be doing

486
00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:06.799
Ozfest and one of them was expecting about it. Obviously

487
00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:11.279
wife was expecting a baby, so they canceled and she

488
00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:13.359
was like five months pregnant or something.

489
00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:15.240
She wasn't nearly about to give birth.

490
00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:21.799
Yeah, and food Fighters covered it, just, yeah, that's weird that, like,

491
00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:23.599
you're not even ready to give birth.

492
00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:24.680
And that was the excuse.

493
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:27.200
That was that reason we were told.

494
00:26:27.000 --> 00:26:31.880
Yeah, wow, that's a trip. So how come or what

495
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:36.559
made you decide to do the four seasons? And more importantly,

496
00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:40.799
I mean maybe it's because you have all four seasons

497
00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:43.880
in one hour, and that's why that is. But more importantly,

498
00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:47.200
why did you start with winter? Was that Dedn's idea?

499
00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:49.480
Because she's the negative one, so let's start with the

500
00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:50.480
negative season.

501
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:55.119
Yeah. The first DP come out in December, so we

502
00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:58.799
released one each. We had the songs, and then someone

503
00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:02.119
had the eye. Someone suggested, remember who it was? Someone

504
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:03.759
it might might be Laurie.

505
00:27:03.799 --> 00:27:07.160
Actually I don't remember who, so.

506
00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:08.279
It's Laur's fault.

507
00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:09.480
Then it might might be Laura.

508
00:27:09.559 --> 00:27:11.200
Laurie, I don't ever do it anyone out there?

509
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:14.720
She said, whoever it was, who said, why don't you

510
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:17.480
like so you know, like, you've got these songs, and

511
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:21.559
we we want some sort of concept and and I

512
00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:23.799
don't know where the idea come from having the seasons,

513
00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:26.440
and then we thought, actually, why don't we just do

514
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:28.680
one and we'll release one now, we'll release one of

515
00:27:28.720 --> 00:27:32.480
three months, and we'll release the four seasons aps over

516
00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:35.319
nine months and yeah, so so basically have a year

517
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:38.960
to release the four aps, which was a great idea.

518
00:27:38.960 --> 00:27:42.240
And obviously then we showed the I asked a friend

519
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:44.720
of mine and about the artwork and she just knocked

520
00:27:44.720 --> 00:27:47.279
that up for us, and it was the concept was

521
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:49.000
was there, it was born. And then it was like

522
00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:52.039
at the time we had seven songs and there's sixteen

523
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:54.680
songs on the APS. So once we got to about

524
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:58.680
sort of summer, we were like, we're running out of

525
00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:02.000
songs now. Yeah, so we have to quickly squeeze some

526
00:28:02.079 --> 00:28:05.079
more songs out. But the idea so.

527
00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:08.079
Well, the good news is is in the UK, all

528
00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:11.519
four of those EPs would be appropriate any month of

529
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:12.400
the year there.

530
00:28:12.680 --> 00:28:18.519
Yeah, yeah, exactly, it was summer, yesterday's today exactly.

531
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:22.319
I'm surprised it took till today to become winter.

532
00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:24.880
I was figuring to getting a couple of special edition

533
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:27.440
and Alton is done with full on them instead.

534
00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.359
Yeah, you could do like a special vinyl that is

535
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:34.960
made with leaves.

536
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:38.799
That could be good. It's cool. Someone has to be

537
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:40.799
about vinyl. We other that you're going to get vinyl

538
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:44.119
collective vinyl? Is that we kind of you know, we

539
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:46.559
have to get like one hundred vinyls done, and it

540
00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:49.000
costs like well over a thousand pounds to get like

541
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:52.400
one hundred vinyls done. So are we going to get

542
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:55.440
let's spend over one thousand pounds just for one person person?

543
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:59.000
Yeah, well how about I want you, I want you

544
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:00.480
to put it out on a track?

545
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:09.640
Yeah, great system.

546
00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:14.559
I loved the tracks because you know, it would interrupt

547
00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:18.720
the song in the middle of tracks, and you know,

548
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:21.599
if you didn't have a matchbook, it would play in

549
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:22.400
slow motion.

550
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:23.559
You know.

551
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.640
It was really good. It was great quality. I think

552
00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:29.960
I could turned my radio station into like an eight

553
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:31.119
track radio station.

554
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:36.920
Ben's got night track and I was just like, why

555
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:39.799
he's using this, He's just retro. She loved it because

556
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:41.960
it was your retro, so you just use it.

557
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:44.680
So yeah, I not. I wish I kept my eight

558
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:47.519
tracks because it would be kind of cool and funny,

559
00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:50.359
you know, because I had I had Blizzard of Oz

560
00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:55.839
on eight track when it first came out. Mister Crowley

561
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:59.160
would fade out and during the second end of the

562
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:02.519
second track and feeback in in the third track.

563
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:05.920
Nice, amazing.

564
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:09.119
So what else do you want to tell the listeners

565
00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:11.480
about you guys, about your music that they need to know.

566
00:30:12.359 --> 00:30:15.279
Well, we've got some ideas for an XDP, but it's

567
00:30:15.319 --> 00:30:18.880
a secret, but we plan on releasing that hopefully by

568
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.400
about April May next year. Obviously, we've got the four EPs,

569
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.559
so there's plenty of music to get your tapth into.

570
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:30.319
We are recording two more songs in December seven Deputy,

571
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:33.960
which was the seventeenth song that didn't make it onto

572
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:38.000
the EPs, basically the on Autumn. There's a song Counting

573
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:40.839
the Days that's also about Lorry. Seven Deputy is about

574
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:44.160
how how I met Laurie. So it was a case

575
00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:46.960
of there we wanted different subject matters on there, so

576
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:49.200
only one of them kind of made it onto the EP,

577
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:51.720
and Counting the Days we felt was the strongest song,

578
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:54.519
wasn't it, So that's why we did that. That's why

579
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:56.599
that one made it on there. But we're recording that

580
00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.279
in December. That will be we'll do a video for

581
00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:02.519
that and whack it on YouTube obviously on Spotify. It's

582
00:31:02.519 --> 00:31:04.519
gonna be a non CD version, so.

583
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:07.519
You're going to do like April and May. So you

584
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.039
should name the album forget Winter, it's spring.

585
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:13.720
We're just we're just, we're just skipping over.

586
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:22.279
Exactly. Well, you know what you should do. And she'll

587
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:26.119
probably be watching or listening to this when it comes out.

588
00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:29.359
I think you guys should sing live on the interview

589
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:32.599
the song about Laurie or at least part of it,

590
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:33.680
at least part of it.

591
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:35.359
Which one do you want to do?

592
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:38.440
Which one?

593
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:40.279
Count of the days?

594
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:42.319
Probably count of the days of the off the new

595
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:46.319
EP probably in chane.

596
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.559
Yeah that that that might mean some tune and.

597
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:00.480
Mm hm.

598
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:16.440
That fuss about it and my chance to sleep wide

599
00:32:16.519 --> 00:32:21.799
away continuity break, sorry but gonestly don't to dream?

600
00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:23.119
Will I want to sprink?

601
00:32:23.519 --> 00:32:24.279
That is so long?

602
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:27.880
So long comes in the DISTI I see you again,

603
00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:45.039
should not want and all reading.

604
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:43.000
I just want to go.

605
00:32:45.519 --> 00:32:48.200
I just need to feel.

606
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:58.440
I'm not hope you want to be with you all

607
00:32:58.519 --> 00:32:58.920
the time.

608
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:00.359
M hm m.

609
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:05.200
M m.

610
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:13.039
Through the day, my mind is away picking up places

611
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:17.279
that we even remember in times I would top tapular

612
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:22.440
signs that we see, yet in today we're so far away, yearning.

613
00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:26.000
Up in overwhelm both in my mind that's saver rabbit,

614
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:28.640
leave to my half, blease.

615
00:33:38.640 --> 00:33:44.480
I just want to the long, Jess, I just be

616
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:50.519
to feel and not all with that.

617
00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:56.599
I want to be with you all the time.

618
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:02.599
Best chaptism meant. And that's a stormy about.

619
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:05.960
That still be.

620
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:10.480
In time it was just.

621
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:12.360
Them.

622
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:14.960
I wait, I don't.

623
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:33.400
I just want to want you. I just need to

624
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:34.800
be curious.

625
00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:37.079
I'm not.

626
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:44.880
I wanted to be fall world.

627
00:34:53.519 --> 00:34:57.440
Nice. I was really really good. I don't care what

628
00:34:57.639 --> 00:34:58.320
Laurie says.

629
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:07.239
So yeah, so that's absolutely I mean when when I

630
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:09.000
met Lauri, I mean we at the time we had

631
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:12.360
seven songs, six of which were really miserable and one

632
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:15.960
which was happy. And then it was this case of

633
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:17.800
like since then, now we've got kind of fifty to

634
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:21.039
fifty happy sad, so balance now, so we're start writing

635
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:23.760
miserable songs again now because obviously it kind of suits

636
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:24.800
the mood of the music bit more.

637
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:26.559
Yeah.

638
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:31.239
So yeah, but obviously that one's a bit of sad

639
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:33.480
and the other two there's there's free songs about Laurie.

640
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.000
Two of that one's on the new AP and the

641
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:41.880
song Oceans is on Spring video comes out next week.

642
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.559
The video does come out on the second of October

643
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:47.119
on YouTube on a YouTube channel. I'm not sure when

644
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:51.199
this is going live, but but yeah, so if this

645
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:53.920
is if, if this is on air before the second

646
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:56.800
of October, check out our YouTube channel on second October

647
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:58.679
for the new song nice.

648
00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:05.440
Well you guys rock, your badass the Spike Wings in

649
00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:11.920
the band, but but we do love you and everybody

650
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:13.760
else needs to love you too, or they can't listen

651
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:14.559
to my show anymore.

652
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:19.239
We're looking forward to being your Your World festival.

653
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:20.280
Yes, yeah, there you go.

654
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:22.000
I'm happy to open that as well. I mean if

655
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.039
we s open it and then we can go to

656
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:26.920
the backstage bar and yeah.

657
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:34.840
It is well spoken like true English people right there. Well,

658
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:38.840
you guys rock, and everybody definitely has to get all

659
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:43.480
of the EPs and check you out. You're super talented

660
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:45.639
and thanks for being on the Adventures of pipe Man.

661
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:50.079
Much for having us, Thank you, Thank you for listening

662
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:55.280
to the Adventures of pipe Man on w for c

663
00:36:55.559 --> 00:36:56.800
u I Radio.