Jan. 23, 2026

STEVE HACKETT ANNOUNCES BEST OF GENESIS & SOLO GEMS SHOW

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STEVE HACKETT ANNOUNCES 'BEST OF GENESIS & SOLO GEMS' SHOW FOR A LIMITED 2026 RUN IN FLORIDA

Prog rock icon Steve Hackett will  play a limited 4 show run in Florida in early 2026, performing his 'Best of Genesis & Solo Gems' show. As its title states, Hackett will be bringing you the very best of the Genesis songs from throughout his career with this awe-inspiring band, along with a selection of classic material from his many solo albums.

Accompanying Steve for these dates with be long-standing musicians Lalle Larsson (keyboards), Nad Sylvan (vocals), Jonas Reingold (bass, guitar, backing vocals), Rob Townsend (saxophone, flutes, additional keyboards, backing vocals) and Felix Lehrmann on drums.

These will be the only 4 dates here in North America and tickets will be going on sale on September 12th at 10am EST.

But in the meantime, ticket presale is also available via these individual show links (with the presale password being HACKETT):

Ponte Vedra Concert Hall
https://www.axs.com/events/1123984/steve-hackett-tickets

Ruth Eckerd Hall Clearwater
https://www.rutheckerdhall.com/events/detail/steve-hackett

Plaza Live Orlando
https://www.axs.com/events/1130608/steve-hackett-tickets

Au-Rene Theater Ft. Lauderdale
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0D006324CE794B4B?brand=broward

It has been 12 years since STEVE HACKETT brought his classic Genesis Revisited show to us.  Back then, in 2013, his North American and UK tours culminated in his acclaimed performance at London’s Royal Albert Hall and the following release of the live DVD of that performance.

Since then, Steve’s timeless guitar work has been woven throughout the classic Genesis albums of the '70s. In recent years, he and his world class band have brought several of these albums back to concert halls to even greater acclaim, and the 2025 tour featured the classic album ‘The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway’.

Soon, North American fans will get to experience Genesis and solo Hackett classics…by the man himself!

CONFIRMED TOUR DATES:
Wed. 02/25/26:            Ponte Vedra Beach, FL - Ponte Vedra Concert Hall
Thu. 02/26/26:              Clearwater, FL - Ruth Eckerd Hall
Fri. 02/27/26:                Orlando, FL - The Plaza Live
Sun. 03/01/26:             Ft. Lauderdale FL - Au-Rene Theater at at Broward Center For The Performing Arts

FOR MORE INFORMATION, VISIT: hackettsongs.com

Steve Hackett announces several exclusive Florida dates in 2026

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of Pipe Man W four C Y Radio. And I'm

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very excited about our next guest because you know, our

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main studio where I'm at right now is in South Florida,

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and this is one of the most amazing musicians that's

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going to have some very special tour dates exclusively in

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several Florida locations. So let's welcome to a show. Steve Hackett.

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How are you?

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Yeah, very well, thank you. Nice to be talking to you.

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How are you doing? And I'm doing great. You're going

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to be down here in Florida soon. That's going to

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be pretty fun. So tell us a little bit about

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those shows you're doing here in Florida.

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Sure, well, it's going to be a kind of best

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of Genesis and and solo stuff, so I'm looking forward

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to doing that. It'll be the first dates with two

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new members of the band, one guy i've worked with before,

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Felix Lehmann, who's germaned from from Berlin, and a new

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keyboard player, Lali Larson from Sweden, so it'll be one

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of three Swedish guys. I've got in the band nice.

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These will be the first dates we're doing with him,

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so those guys have worked together before. I thinking a

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band called Agents of Mercy, the Natsil and Swedish, Jonas,

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Ryan Gold Swedish and now Lally Lawson. Kind of a

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United Nations of a band, you know. I've had people

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from the UK, from Europe, from everywhere, and later in

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the year I get to work with guys in South

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America and Hungry. I'm going to be working with guys

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from Hungary again soon. But the touring band that I'll

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have will be essentially my regular touring band, but with

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the exception of Roger King, who's officially retired now. He says,

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but maybe maybe he'll he'll keep going doing classical stuff.

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I don't know. I think his first love is his

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classical news, although he's done scores for films such as

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A Cliffhanger and the Name of the Father, and I'm

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very sorry to see him go. But I'm working with

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new guys who happened to be brilliant.

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Sometimes you guys bring a little more spark sometimes too well, that's.

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Right, yes, I think you know that the level of

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enthusiasm from guys I'm working with in the studio wouldn't

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necessarily be the same guys that I'm working with live.

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I'm working with an Italian keyboard player called Ricardo Romano

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in the studio at the moment, and he's doing wonderful things.

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It's rather wonderful. I'm reconnected with Nick Magnus as well.

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We're going to be doing some things in the future.

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I did lots of albums with him back in the day.

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A few years after I left Genesis, I was working

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with Nick. We were doing many albums together, so there's

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a kind of continuity. But I think British music has

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always been ambitious to include as many instruments and unlikely

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instrumentation as much as possible. So I think we've always

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orientated towards groups that can become orchestras that travel wander

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off into places such as Azerbaijan, India, instruments from these

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places to have that kind of exotica. In other words, rock.

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so that these atmospheres are interchangeable with each other. I

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owe a lot to film music. I think my style

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is probably hitting more towards film music than anything else.

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So if mister Demil wants to give me a call,

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that's fine, or his grandson indeed.

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of cool. I think when you can make music that

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comes from like all over the world, because there's so

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many different influences that can come into it to make

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the Russians with all the political suppression and all of that,

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coming up with this wonderful romantic music and all the

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experimental stuff as well, so those guys could really orchestrate

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and came up with great melodies. I suspect the weather

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had something to do with it. You know. You know

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why did England have Shakespeare? It's probably because he was

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stuck in doors because the weather was so awful.

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I say that all you know, that's it.

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But you know, hey, Florida, of course, yeah, we all

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long to escape to Florida. That's what we dream of.

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Well you left, speaking of weather, like, I go to

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the UK twice a year to do festivals coverage over there,

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and I love it there and I love it everything

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about it except the weather. It's like, yeah, man, I

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would I had one in a festival from our say

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you should move over here so you could do all

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the festivals, and like, yeah, I would if the weather

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was different. It's like polar there, know exactly.

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Well, at the moment it's been I might be doing

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England a disservice. But the reality is it has been

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running for days, if not weeks, and every day I'm

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going out, I'm feeding the animals and it's got to

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be there's the food on the work ground, get it quick, guys,

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because otherwise it's it's gonna be soggy in the extreme.

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So yeah, yeah, it's the downside of the UK. It's

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got a lot to recommend it, believe me, totally the UK.

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On a sunny day, London is a wonderful place. But

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nobody comes to London for.

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The weather, that's for sure.

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Yeah, but that party.

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But I do agree with that philosophy with the music

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because I think about it. You know, what do you do,

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like I'm originally from New York and New Jersey, what

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you do during the winter, you basically hibernate. So when

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when you hibernate, that's when your creativity can come out.

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why have I spent so many hours pouring over a guitar? Yes, absolutely, England.

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England fails you on so many levels, most of which

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are are ye had to do with the Yeah, the

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conditions we're supposed to be going out tonight, you know,

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so it will be Yeah, you go out with an umbrella,

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you go in the car, and you're trying to avoid

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the floods and had all of that. We've been working hard,

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the team have been working hard at home. So I've

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got to take him out to dinner.

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There you go.

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That has to be done. Yeah, you know, it's it's

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it has to be born with with you know, with

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with grace, the the terrible, the terrible weather here. But

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you know, you guys have got it made over there.

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It's in some ways you have a choice.

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You have a choice of weathers and seasons within within

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the borders.

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Well, I think it's like I think the United States

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is basically should be more like Europe because each state

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does have, like you said, different weather, different cultures, different

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types of people, different geography. It's kind of the same thing.

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It's like it's wild to me when I like drive

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all over Europe that to me, it's just like I

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wouldn't even know I was going into another country except

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I saw the language change.

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Yeah, yeah, it's it's funny, you know. And you watch

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the news every day and and you hear that the

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Greenland might become part of New Jersey. I mean anything,

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anything could happen, all right, Oh my god.

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It is a wild when you get to our stage

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of life. It's a pretty wild world that we live in.

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When you think about, like I think about stuff that

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happened in the eighties that I thought probably wouldn't happen again,

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and I think we're kind of there again in the eighties.

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It's like well yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, it's we

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live in interesting times and nobody can really predict what's

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going to happen tomorrow.

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No, But it creates great music though, because like I think,

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if you take some of the music from seventies eighties,

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you could apply it to today just as well. Well,

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you know, and like list just like the weather if that,

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If you're writing music, it comes from your experiences. After

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there's a lot of experiences going on to write about.

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It makes for a lot of creativity.

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you know. You know, when I was starting out, I

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was buying guitar records, you know, at the age of nine,

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I think and and I would buy all these guitar records,

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you know, Dwayne Eddie and the Shadows and stuff that

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all sounded like the Ventures. And then it wasn't really

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until I heard the Rolling Stones version of I Want

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to Be Your Man that I finally heard a guitar

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that ripped. And I always knew that it could somewhere

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in the back of my my, you know, my esp

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somewhere back there. Even as a kid, I thought this

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instrument should rip, and now it does, of course, But

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then you know, once you've achieved that. I mean, I

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don't know about you, but I mean I was a

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harmonica player ten years before I was a guitarist, and

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then having played for years, when I was sixteen, I

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saw Paul Butterfield playing harmonica and I thought, I don't

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know anything about guitar. I don't know a thing about

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harmonica playing because he's reinventing the instrument. The sound of

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it was so powerful, so powerful, just incredible. So I've

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been I did do a blues album at one point,

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which probably sold least well of all the things that

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i'd done, classical things, proggy things, etc. But there's something

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something about it, you know, of the direct contact of

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that other instrument that I trained to do and within

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a blues context. I like it very much. But I'm

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also working on the idea of a sort of a

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Middle Eastern influenced blues harp sound. I believe that's possible.

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It's in the margins of what's what's possible to create

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an instrument that people are not necessarily going to recognize,

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but that I can drive. I can handle shoving it

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through some of the stuff that I I reserve for guitar,

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usually an angle lamp, an old I think it's a

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fifty seven. I've got the one that looks rather like

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a gun. I wouldn't take it on on a plane.

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You know they're going to stop, yeah, stand away from

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the microphone.

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So you know, I actually get that. Like when I

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go to travel for doing coverage at festival damp all

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my equipment, they always stop me like, what's this exactly?

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Yeah, it's a microphone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we've heard all

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that before. It's it's a harmonica. Yeah, what do you

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do with it? You know where you're blowing to it

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and that's what you do. Yeah, it's it's the most

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portable instrument you can possibly imagine, right, But there's not

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too many gigs out there for even great harmonica players.

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Stevie Wonder usually does it for everybody.

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So yeah, he was. He was definitely great. John Popper

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of Blues Traveler, it's pretty great.

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they all have their own style, and.

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You know what's it's interesting. You know what's interesting too,

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is that probably the most famous Sabbath song is one

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with Ozzie playing harmonic and he's not even a musician.

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He always said he wasn't a musician. He was right, Yeah,

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But like my the most famous song as harmonica in it.

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I got to spend time with Larry Adler, for instance,

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and I was asking him for tips on a harmonica,

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even though I've been playing it all my life. I thought,

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I'm not going to play harmonica in front of this guy.

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He's got it down, you know, he can play rhapsody

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and blue George Gershwin one hand on the piano one

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hand on the harmonica, and that was a party piece

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for him, and he did it very well. It sounded

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really really lovely. He's gone now, but and Butterfield, so

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you know, all my mentors in the harmonica world have

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passed on. But then I'm going to mess around with it,

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you know, put it through different octaves and.

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You can carry on the legacy of Noe.

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Yeah that's right, Yeah, that's right. You know. I think that,

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you know, it's another stream to your bow. Really, if

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you can play another instrument like that.

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I think, if you're a true musician, like uhy, experiment

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with all different types of instruments, you know, and you

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look at somebody like Prince and most people don't even

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know that loved Prince that he could play. I don't

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even know there were so many instruments he could play,

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you know. And I think it's just it becomes like

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a hobby. You know, let me see what other instrument.

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You know. I'm not even good at instruments, and I

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feel that way. Like I played drums, I played guitar.

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I was never really good. But like I'll walk into

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a store, I'll see a mandolin. I'm like, oh, maybe

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I should try that.

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Well, there we are. I've played a mandolin. I'm not

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brilliant at it, but with you know, patient attention to detail,

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I think you can record something like that. And then

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there's of course, you know, nylon guitar, classical guitar, flabko guitar.

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It's all very very different to electric It's another instrument entirely, yes,

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under the heading of guitar. But I've also played it's

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a Vietnamese instrument which is like the koto dinshine, and

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that's very, very beautiful. So I've recorded that to good

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good effect. Again, I think you know, when you're recording,

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it's you have the possibility to start and stop, pretty

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much like singing. You know, if you think, yeah, you know,

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I think I can I can do a better take

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as a singer, even professional singers will say, yeah, I

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think I can hit that note more squarely, or I

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can put more into it. And I was I was

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doing this yesterday. I was recording some vocal stuff and

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finding that I could if you let yourself go, you

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can really rip if you want, and it's really as

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strong as any rock singing I've heard. But you have

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to be prepared to you know, put the edge on that.

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but actually you can whisper, and you can shout and

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scream and all of those things are different voices that come. Yeah,

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the same voice box here. So you can do that

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and you can learn to control it. It can be learned.

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Peter Gabriel was saying this years ago. He was saying,

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I believe singing is possible. He said, he said, if

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I can do it, then then anyone can do it.

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Here we are. You got it from the horse's mouth.

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Oh there you go. I love hearing that because I

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think we need more art in the world anyway, because

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that's the ultimate uniter and it's the ultimate therapy. And

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like so I think everybody should be able to exercise

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that or well, I agree, you.

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Know, you've got to be able to bring the world together.

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If we can get everyone singing off the same page,

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if not the same hymn sheet, then I think the

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subjext of music, of course, is to re energize people

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and heal In some cases. It's very very powerful medicine,

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which is why we're involved with it. There's so much

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to it. I'm always telling the story of if you

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read any of the books that were written by Oliver Sachs,

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the doctor, the guy who basically wrote Awakenings, which became

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the movie. These sort of studies of the human mind

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and the outer limits of the diseases that people can

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suffer from. One woman had to think called akinesia one

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of his patients. She would become frozen and she couldn't

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move until she heard a piece of music that moved

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her emotionally, and then there was a direct correlation between

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her ability to be able to move physically having heard

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something which moved her emotionally. So if that isn't medicine,

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I don't know what is.

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No doubt of course, you know listen, I actually have

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had this idea recently that we should have a music

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festival that's for the whole world, and the whole world

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it has to attend, and then we could just work

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out all our problems.

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Well, that would be really good, wouldn't it. You know

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at the Beatles kind of did that with all your love.

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You know how many million subscribers there were. You know,

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if you had a TV you tuned into that channel,

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and there I was sitting at home, black and white

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TV watching this stuff going on, and it seemed like

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the center of the world and the most important thing

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possible was that concert. Everyone was tuned into it, and yeah,

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there's the Moonshot, you're going to be there for that,

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a few other world events. But it's beyond your favorite

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soccer team winning. It's beyond it's beyond sport. It's somehow. Yes,

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there's this song and everyone's in it. A piece of

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music that features so many other snippets of music as well. Yeah,

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that kind of I guess in a kind of pastiche

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a parody kind of setting. But it doesn't even start

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off with the Beatles. Starts off with French national anthem

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and lamasiers, you know, and wanders off into in the

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mood and all the rest. And music ought to be

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that free once again, to be able to have that

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that confidence. If you've got the world's ear and all

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the eyes of the world are on you as well,

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you can do that kind of thing. But I can

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hear other meusicians perhaps listening to the thing you were

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world music was. It was a lot different than they

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could do what they liked because they were the Beatles. Well,

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you know, it's like, don't don't dream it be it.

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Let's let's you know, I want to. I want to

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hear your wildest fantasies musically, because you know, it can't

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go on just being you know, this one horse trick

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and down home and yeah, mating ritual based and all that.

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Hey we've done all that, you know, come on, let's

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have some new stuff. Otherwise it's always going to be

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movies that are going to give you the new music

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because they are with a winning producer, always allowed to

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do so. But you know, I think, you know, rock

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formats has become very constrained.

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I say, like nowadays it's a lot of rock music

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has to have this like formula that that that they

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have to apply to it. Where there is no formula.

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I think bands like the Beatles like made the formula.

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Well that's right, yeah, you know, and you should be

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allowed to stretch out and do what you want. Music

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was surprise and music that's inclusive and has surprises. If

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music doesn't have surprises in it, then I can't see

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why it's worth listening to.

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So I think about the greatest bands, like especially from

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like the sixties and seventies, that they evolved throughout their

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whole career. They were never just one genre. You can't

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most of the bands from them, you can't pinpoint them

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to one genre.

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I think you're absolutely right. The pan genre approach is

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the way forward. So if we all adopt the mantle

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of being character actors in music, we can wander into

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unfamiliar territory. But equit that was reasonably I think that's

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that's the main thing. And and why not. You know,

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I was writing suddenly the other day that was in

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the style of early Danny k and I was thinking,

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I wonder if I can get away with this or not,

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you know, but it was just like a nonsense song,

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and I thought, well, this is the kind of stuff

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that I listened to when I was a kid. This

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was the stuff that was on on radio, a lot

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of comedy songs. But you know, but but we loved

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them for that. That was.

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It's the simplicity, like we want to escape life, and yeah,

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life is complicated, So how we escape life?

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Music?

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Yeah that's it. So you know, we're at the point

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where AI can do it all anyway. So the game's up,

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so you might as will change the game, because if

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you don't, you will be caught out. Move on my.

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Friend, I totally Meanwhile, does it blow your mind that

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you're doing fifty fiftieth anniversary? Yeah, I've got am lives

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down on Broadway.

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I mean well as I say, you know, yeah, I

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sort of did whole albums. I was doing the whole

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of Setting In by the Pound, the whole of Fox Trot,

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maybe half of ladbat Down and Broadway and future stuff.

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I'll be doing a best of cherry picking across all

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of Genesis stuff and my own stuff. And to be

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able to serve up the best with I like to

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think of it as an incredible band I have with

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extraordinary virtuosas. It's a little bit like talking to our

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bass player, Jonnaesi says, you know, you've got to have

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the rail Madrid. You know you're talking about soccer. You

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know the best players are rail adrifts of those who

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were unfamiliar with l You need that in music. You know,

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this team has to be it has to be the

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best players. And I've arrived at that point. I've got

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the best players who are incredible virtueos. Mean, any one

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of them will blow you away tomorrow. You know. They

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can all hold the floor and do solos. And they

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were all incredible. So yeah, they've got chops to die

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for for sure. I remember a time when there was

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you know, a Mahabis New Orchestra where you know, jazz

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at that point had become extremely fashionable because they were

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boring from rock. So there were you know, great jazz players,

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but they were doing it with rock sensibility. So whatever

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you're going to say, I'm sorry I interrupted you.

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Oh no, this is all about you. Who cares what

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I have to say? Well, it's about well, it does

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blow my mind, and fifty years of anything, like anything

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in my life, I'm like, oh, that was fifty I

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mean fifty years ago. Did you think that you'd be

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